MikeCZAR:
How?

That pilot is flying under the UN not SAAF.

The reporter is telling his story of "forward intervention brigade"

Okay so the journalist's whole story of Rooivalk is better than Hind becomes garbage and fake.

The Rooivalk pilot belongs to South African air force, or does UN own Rooivalks and produces Rooivalk pilots ?

You got trapped and now deny your own country's air force and pilot, you are a traitor and betrayer dude, you can one day deny your own family just to win an argument....your wife should fear you o !
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Henry120:


You put a confuse man between the sticks....... nice going SAAF.

You can't argue with me Henry!

Just resort to ins..ults already.

jln115:

Our Gripens are different from normal Gripen Cs, so no, they are not phasing out SAAF version of the Gripen.

SAAF flies Gripen C....or is it Gripen Z that Sweden sold to you?

SAAF calls them Gripen C, that is no news
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Henry120:


Your Gripens are the very basic C/d model, and you only have 9 pilots for 26 planes after 16 years.

Bwahahaahaha

MikeCZAR:
Countries are getting dedicated attack helicopter from the Dhruv, Z-10 to the Apache not Hind ru..bbih.

Operational requirement for the Boarder war was to buy 32 Rooivalks, as FAPLA and Cuba had many tanks. Also it was the need of the army not air force who didn't worry about tanks.

But that need changed in early and late 90s.

SA also had plans for introduce local fighters, submarines and tanks.

How many countries operate the B-2 spirit bomber, B-52 bomber, F-22 Raptor, Visby class corvette and the Gotland class submarines.

Yet the Brazilians, Russians, Nigerians, Azerbajanis, belarusians, Pakistanis are Pilling on the MI-35 numbers.


Your order was reverted because the SANDF..... as always, was broke!!

SA had plans.... similar to your 21 years Project biro plans. nothing new, many countries also have plans.

They don't operate them as the U.S didn't put them up for exports....... olodo!!

agaugust:


Okay so the journalist's whole story of Rooivalk is better than Hind becomes garbage and fake.

The Rooivalk pilot belongs to South African air force, or does UN own Rooivalks and produces Rooivalk pilots ?

You got trapped and now deny your own country's air force and pilot, you are a traitor and betrayer dude, you can one day deny your own family just to win an argument....your wife should fear you o !
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The Journalist didn't say anything about the aircraft being better. Many of the things he said are wrong.

It was the interviewed pilot who said they had a better systems and his statements are true.

They're flying under the UN.

jln115:

NAF only has 3 pilots!

Show us a source that says NAF has ever had pilots shortage for jet fighters.

We have shown sources of Gripen jet pilots shortages and lack of qualification to fly.


Show us a source that says NAF has ever had pilots shortage for jet fighters
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MikeCZAR:
No, they ordered 60 E/F Gripens.

Saab will be upgrading their C/D versions with the MS20 software including SAAF Gripens, this will enable them to use the advanced Meteor missile.

Just this week they've shown new upgrades to capabilities of the aircraft radar.

Sweden will be stuck with C/D versions for a long time, so upgrades will be offered equivalent in performance to the E/F versions.

No, country has SAAF Gripens.

SAAF Gripens are Gripen C....many countries have it. Unless you show proof yours is Gripen W or Gripen Z
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jln115:

Nigeria build fvckall except your sh1tty Igiri that you don't even like!

We build drones, many types of drones
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MikeCZAR:
You can't argue with me Henry!

Just resort to ins..ults already.

I'm only quoting your pilot. Go argue with him. He says your cannon only has a 2km range, that's what I agree with.


On the other hand, you are claiming the Rooivalk, pilot and reporter all belong to the U.N.

What the heck is the correlation?

jln115:

Nigeria build fvckall except your sh1tty Igiri that you don't even like!

But you said Nigeria doesn't build anything?

MikeCZAR:
That's not what Saab says, SAAF Gripens are different.

You changed the Gripen engine, radar, cannon, cockpit, wings, ejection seat, landing gear, etc ?
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MikeCZAR:
The Journalist didn't say anything about the aircraft being better. Many of the things he said are wrong.

It was the interviewed pilot who said they had a better systems and his statements are true.

They're flying under the UN.

Really ?

The journalist got the 2 km info from a herbalist oracle?

So the journalist is wrong, okay prove him wrong with tech/specs/data citations.

Forget the pilot, don't say he is right....you already denied him being a SAAF pilot
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Henry120:


I'm only quoting your pilot. Go argue with him. He says your cannon only has a 2km range, that's what I agree with.


On the other hand, you are claiming the Rooivalk, pilot and reporter all belong to the U.N.

What the heck is the correlation?

The guy is now denying his own country et al
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Henry120:


But you said Nigeria doesn't build anything?

Its called generalization!! Its almost like sarcasm, thus you cant grasp the concept.

agaugust:


SAAF flies Gripen C....or is it Gripen Z that Sweden sold to you?

SAAF calls them Gripen C, that is no news
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Dude I didn't say they weren't Gripen Cs, I said they were different from others, they have for example a South African designed HMI and HMD

Henry120:


Yet the Brazilians, Russians, Nigerians, Azerbajanis, belarusians, Pakistanis are Pilling on the MI-35 numbers.


Your order was reverted because the SANDF..... as always, was broke!!

SA had plans.... similar to your 21 years Project biro plans. nothing new, many countries also have plans.

They don't operate them as the U.S didn't put them up for exports....... olodo!!

Air forces are getting dedicated attack helicopters and that's a fact.

Funding was still high in the 90s, SAAF had 40+ fighter aircraft.

Plans?

You recently seen the Badger right? Now firing shells and missiles not displaced.

The A-Darter production was signed just a few months ago.

We don't rush into backyards and garages! The tender process is still taking place we'll get a better deal than some who had hopes of building one OPV and where robbed!

Delays are normal.

The Gotland class submarines were offered to some countries?

How many countries operate the Visby class corvette?

How many countries operate the Irom dome?

How many countries operate the Zulu Cobra?

agaugust:


Show us a source that says NAF has ever had pilots shortage for jet fighters.

We have shown sources of Gripen jet pilots shortages and lack of qualification to fly.


Show us a source that says NAF has ever had pilots shortage for jet fighters
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Show us Source that SAAF only has 9 Gripen pilots!

agaugust:


We build drones, many types of drones
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Ok well done, we are one of the largest arms exporters in the world, we built every thing from bullets to SPGs.

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jln115:


Show us Source that SAAF only has 9 Gripen pilots!

It's actually worse than I said:

"“The sad facts of the Gripen system are as follows: 26 Gripen fighter jets were delivered; 10 or fewer are operational; 12 are in long-term storage; there are six qualified pilots; there are about 150 flying hours available to the entire squadron for 2013.”"

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/

Now show us a source that says NAF has only 3 F-7 pilots !
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agaugust:


Really ?

The journalist got the 2 km info from a herbalist oracle?

So the journalist is wrong, okay prove him wrong with tech/specs/data citations.

Forget the pilot, don't say he is right....you already denied him being a SAAF pilot
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Also ask were he got the "forward intervention brigade".

His flying under the UN.

The ZA never disappoints. Here's prove Rooivalk Info-graphic : http://www.africandefence.net/the-rooivalk-attack-helicopter/

jln115:

Its called generalization!! Its almost like sarcasm, thus you cant grasp the concept.

So, now it's called generalisation.

First, you said Nigeria doesn't,

Second, you said it's the Igirigi the Nigerians don't even like,

Third, you say it is generalisation.

So, what next, you deny your Pilot like mikeczar or in the manner you did to mzikazali?

jln115:

Ok well done, we are one of the largest arms exporters in the world, we built every thing from bullets to SPGs.

You are actually almost bottom table of world top 20 arms exporters, you are ahead of countries like Azerbaijan on that arms export table.

Cool....SA beats Azerbaijan....cool

agaugust:


You come again with fresh lies early this morning.

UN deployed both Rooivalk and Mi-35 Hinds into same combat same time same operation, both performed same job was well.

Dude, stop posting fantasies of lies on this forum, are me.ntally retaaarded or just fraudulent and shameless....or both ?

Rooivalk was called in to do jobs the hind couldent

Thats why the Rooivalk did not deploy with the rest of the South African contingent and arrived much later

agaugust:


The guy is now denying his own country et al
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Mike is downright brutal. It's virtually the same thing Jln115 did to mzikazali last year.

Henry120:


Mike is downright brutal. It's virtually the same thing Jln115 did to mzikazali last year.

Southie camp on fire by homicide....crime does not pay

Henry120:


I've read about it, and nothing exciting about it. Both the F/A-18 Super hornet, SU-35/30sm, Eurofighter offer similar packages.

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/rafale/the-sheer-power-of-multisensor-data-fusion/


It is not even an Air-superiority fighter like the F-22, Eurofighter or SU-35. It's tailored more towards ground attack first, then Air-Air combat.

Yeah its a strike fighter

A class of fighter that egypt has a shortage of capable platforms in

Henry120:


There was no magic in Libya. The jets carried out routine missions any other jet can execute.

Nothing special.

This statemnt

All i can do is shake my head

agaugust:


You changed the Gripen engine, radar, cannon, cockpit, wings, ejection seat, landing gear, etc ?
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Avionics, radar and more!

agaugust:
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It's actually worse than I said:

"“The sad facts of the Gripen system are as follows: 26 Gripen fighter jets were delivered; 10 or fewer are operational; 12 are in long-term storage; there are six qualified pilots; there are about 150 flying hours available to the entire squadron for 2013.”"

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/

Now show us a source that says NAF has only 3 F-7 pilots !
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http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821
"18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date and 52 Hawk aircrew have been trained so far."

Now show me a source were it states we have only 9 pilots!

MikeCZAR:
Also ask were he got the "forward intervention brigade".

His flying under the UN.

The ZA never disappoints. Here's prove Rooivalk Info-graphic : http://www.africandefence.net/the-rooivalk-attack-helicopter/

Your Pilot says the Rooivalk cannon has a 2km range. He flies the bird, so he should know.

Is jean rancine or Richard Stuport a Rooivalk pilot?

Henry120:


The Rooivalk is an obsolete piece of junk, hence there are only 10 in service with the SAAF. The virtual french helicopter has been rejected by at-least 12 countries.

The UN needed more Helicopters in the AOR, because they wanted to speedily end the campaign against M23.

What makes the rooivalk obsolete?

Tell us - specific details