patches689:


Denel is simply keeping their product up to date in an ever changing market.

Brazil didnt get the Rooivalk as they probably cannot afford to buy Rooivalk in the numbers they need.

Citation needed....Brazil is affording the latest Gripen in large numbers.

DENEL is changing Rooivalk to MK2....proves me right....Current Rooivalk is obsolete....DENEL is now my proof....my citation
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stillchris:
This is not a d1ck measuring contest, but i'm very proud of our military right now. even though the international community and media refuse to acknowledge it (since good news coming out of Africa is not good for business), i will not be decieved.

The Nigerian military has set a record by rescuing 600 captives with just one casualty from a terrorist stronghold known for it's extremely difficult terrain. sambisa is almost free.
This in less than a week.

Abeg, 1 million gbosa to our boys in uniform.

saffers. feel free to hate/envy

[size=16pt]Bros, the international media is refusing to air the news here o !

CNN, BBC, VOA, AL-JAZEERA, REUTERS....all the news media that broadcast the kidnap of 200 Chibok girls have gone silent now that Nigeria's military has done what the NATO powers failed to do.

If it was Chadian army that entered Sambisa forest, the news will be splashed on every TV worldwide by these white racists and black haters of Nigeria....the ones suffering from inferiority complex like South Africa and Ghana.

Tv news have not shown the Sambisa forest victory and the freed captives since over a week ago...

Not even once on the big Tv stations in North America...NOT EVEN ONCE !

....All because Nigerian military, world's best performing army year 2015 has shocked the world....


I see South Africans crying already....
.[/size]

patches689:


Probably because Russians are holding off until the PAK-FA finishes development.

LOL...you think aircraft is cheap like Sausage and hamburgers?

To replace over 300 Russian Hinds and over 300 Russian MiG-29s

Has America replaced it's F-16 and F-15 jets of cold war era?

Mumu

jln115:

14 pilots and 4 navigators....from my own source

Your source did NOT say 14 pilots, said 18 crew of both pilots and navigators.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

You are yet to show ONE SINGLE SOURCE that NAF has shortage of F-7 jet pilots...you are afraid of your own false claims?

Cowaaaaard Show me source of NAF's 3 F-7 jet pilots, I have asked you 10 times in 10 hours...you keep trembling like jelly fish
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agaugust:


Su-27 flanker has seen real combat BVR against equal aircraft/opponents.

Has it flown against complex air defense networks?

Its only combat is against Mig-29's

jln115:

14 pilots and 4 navigators....from my own source

Quote where your source said 14 pilots.

"According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821
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agaugust:


UN has NEVER said Rooivalk is better than Hind, the video is South African and the comments therein are now denied by South Africans here because it revealed the short legged 2 km range of Rooivalk gun and bad news for marketing or propaganda
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where do they say 2km range?

UN citations have been posted stop draging this forum backwards

agaugust:


Hind too has laser warning.

SAAF Rooivalk has no missiles, no ingwe or mokopa armed on it.

Mokopa ? 10 km range ATGM ? When a 15 km SAM is launched by Tanzania what will Rooivalk do ?
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Which missiles does your Hind have?

Rooivalk has no missiles? What then are in this picture?

15km Tanzanian SAM? Who is talking about Tanzania?

agaugust:


Hind gun is salved to TV guidance and bangs on target. Accuracy is excellent on the Hind, plus superior firepower combo....beats Rooivalk
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Technical details please.

Your opinion is irrelevant

patches689:


Why are you posting that old source over and over?

The claims in your source were debunked in the Artical posted on defenceweb.

Your defenceweb source is old...2013

patches689:


How many have you sold?

ZERO

New project...38 m boats. Project expansion before sales you fool

agaugust:


Citation needed. I just read your personal Southie opinion
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Hind can cut off its own tail when trying to replicate the maneuvers of western attack helo's
http://www.vrtulnik.cz/teorie/podchvat.htm

agaugust:


All other Southies here yesterday did not argue about the mentioned 2 km range on the Rooivalk video.

You want time stamp, go photo shoot it by yourself....clue, the journalist said it....as informed by the pilot behind the scene.

They all argued with you.

Now, provide us with a screen grab and subtitles so we can see what he said.

Your history of mis-quotes is well known.

agaugust:


50 times more than the number of existing Rooivalks
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Citation please.

agaugust:


Hind E costs more than Super Hind
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Citation please

agaugust:


Angola and Uganda fly Su-30 Flankers, the Ugandan version is brand new and more sophisticated than the Gripen.

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Citation please

agaugust:


Helicopters attack the IFV roof not frontal arc.

Citation please

MikeCZAR:
You speak South African English?

Freely available on google translator and accent pronunciation interface...you village man
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patches689:


Citation please

Google 3 km helicopter altitude above sea level....fool

agaugust:


He said ABOUT 2 km NOT over....ABOUT....could mean less than 2 km....Rooivalk gun is weak ranged
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Citation needed

agaugust:


Same way Rooivalk too has not missiles in SAAF
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According to a private blog

Recent pictoral evidence proves otherwise

patches689:


Citation please.

Google sales orders for Mi-35P and Mi-35M....compare the numbers with 12 Rooivalks. Odenson

agaugust:


A-Darter is NOT yet in service....production plan is NOT = arsenal indcution

Bader IFV....5 units produced in 15 years....1 unit per 3 years....cool production rate....Adam Smith will envy your economics of 'mass prodcution'
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A-darter enters service this year.

236 badger will be in service soon.

You said neither will happen, both have happened. Egg all over your face.

patches689:


According to a private blog

Recent pictoral evidence proves otherwise

Defenceweb interveiw with SAAF chief of staff says NO MOKOPA NEEDED....never ordered, his speech was posted here many times.

agaugust:


F-22 Raptor sale is banned and forbidden by American law....no export allowed....banned, embargoed.

T-72 and Abrams are not same generation, don't compare there specs, RHA+ERA is 2nd generation, COMPOSITE is 3rd generation...thought you said you drink tanks like water....like it's in your blood....LOL
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But you said sales represent quality?

Now you say that sales dont represent quality?

Make up your mind.

agaugust:


Citation needed....Brazil is affording the latest Gripen in large numbers.

DENEL is changing Rooivalk to MK2....proves me right....Current Rooivalk is obsolete....DENEL is now my proof....my citation
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Brazil is buying new gripen and a new carrier and on a limited budget.

They could not afford Rooivalks in the numbers that they need.

Denel upgrade is an upgrade of software, not hardware. Stop trolling

patches689:


A-darter enters service this year.

236 badger will be in service soon.

You said neither will happen, both have happened. Egg all over your face.

Well it has NOT happened as we speak....mud all over your face...ugly

No A-darter in service/inducted, 5 Badgers in 15 years.

the reast of your argument is excuses and stories...tales by moonlight bra
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agaugust:


LOL...you think aircraft is cheap like Sausage and hamburgers?

To replace over 300 Russian Hinds and over 300 Russian MiG-29s

Has America replaced it's F-16 and F-15 jets of cold war era?

Americans will be doing just that the with the F35 JSF... planned aquisition is over 2000 aircraft
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military-jan-june10-defense_04-21/

agaugust:


Your defenceweb source is old...2013

And your source is older

patches689:


Brazil is buying new gripen and a new carrier and on a limited budget.

They could not afford Rooivalks in the numbers that they need.

Show citation where Brazil offered to buy Rooivalk in the first instance
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agaugust:


Defenceweb interveiw with SAAF chief of staff says NO MOKOPA NEEDED....never ordered, his speech was posted here many times.

Quote him again and I will expose you again.

He said that it is not a good export product as other militaries dont have the capabilities to operate it.

Pictures are worth a thousand words

patches689:


Americans will be doing just that the with the F35 JSF... planned aquisition is over 2000 aircraft

When, tomorrow morning?