I and my roomates were actually arguing over this today, and we argued over it for about to hours ,it was a two-man vs three-man team .I and my partner were on the fact that time determines life cause time has been in existence before life. Please, what are your opinions about this

both

It's depends in what frame you but time and life on in

Because it's Relative

So the basic answer is both are relative

LightIndarkness:
It's depends in what frame you but time and life on in

Because it's Relative

So the basic answer is both are relative

but which determines more?

herex:
but which determines more?

None because both of them have start point and end point so the factor of which start first and which end last is the factor to decide the issue

herex:
I and my roomates were actually arguing over this today, and we argued over it for about to hours ,it was a two-man vs three-man team .I and my partner were on the fact that time determines life cause time has been in existence before life. Please, what are your opinions about this

Time is an illusion created by consciousness to experience different parallel realities at he same time. Life itself is consciousness, it never seizes to exist,it is eternal,it the you that observes space and time. Therefore,Life(consciousness) created time.

ifeness:


Time is an illusion created by consciousness to experience different parallel realities at he same time. Life itself is consciousness, it never seizes to exist,it is eternal,it the you that observes space and time. Therefore,Life(consciousness) created time.

What created consciousness?

Misogynist2014:
What created consciousness?

Do you know the definition of Consciousness first?

ifeness:


Do you know the definition of Consciousness first?

Consciousness is the quality or state of awareness, or,
of being aware of an external object or something within
oneself.

Misogynist2014:
Consciousness is the quality or state of awareness, or,
of being aware of an external object or something within
oneself.

So can you answer the question you asked me yourself?

ifeness:


So can you answer the question you asked me yourself?

That consciousness is self existent?

Misogynist2014:
That consciousness is self existent?

Exactly

ifeness:


Exactly

Then it means a Parent consciousness infinite in all attributes might have existed from beginless time?

Even if you are hit by a car you will still be conscious. Consciousness is awareness and observation of things happening. You are consciousness and you are eternal.

ifeness:
Even if you are hit by a car you will still be conscious. Consciousness is awareness and observation of things happening. You are consciousness and you are eternal.

This consciousness must be invisible (Spirit) and must have existed outside time. Can't we call HIM God? Is it possible HE is our creator?

Misogynist2014:
Then it means a Parent consciousness infinite in all attributes might have existed from beginless time?

There is no parent consciousness Mr. You and I are experiencing life through parallel realities. Consciousness is eternal,cannot be created nor destroyed. It is not separate, it remains the same. We all are one body of consciousness experiencing different realities at the same time. We are not separate. Separation is an illusion.

ifeness:


There is no parent consciousness Mr. You and I are experiencing life through parallel realities. Consciousness is eternal,cannot be created nor destroyed. It is not separate, it remains the same. We all are one body of consciousness experiencing different realities at the same time. We are not separate. Separation is an illusion.

You mean a dead man is conscious?! Wonderful!

Misogynist2014:
This consciousness must be invisible (Spirit) and must have existed outside time. Can't we call HIM God? Is it possible HE is our creator?

There is no Him. You are the God(if that is what you want to call yourself)!. You are awareness, You are I am that I am. Our consciousness is one body experiencing it self in different ways.

ifeness:


There is no Him. You are the God(if that is what you want to call yourself)!. You are awareness, You are I am that I am. Our consciousness is one body experiencing it self in different ways.

But I have parents, it was their consciousness that sprang mine into existence. How can I be God?

Misogynist2014:
You mean a dead man is conscious?! Wonderful!

Dead man or dead body?? The body is a vehicle for consciousness,not consciousness itself. You are not your body,just like you are not your car. Consciousness drives the body like you drive your car. A dead body is a body that is lost consciousness,therefore unconscious.

Misogynist2014:
But I have parents, it was their consciousness that sprang mine into existence. How can I be God?

They created your body which gave room for consciousness to occupy a new body.

ifeness:


Dead man or dead body?? The body is a vehicle for consciousness,not consciousness itself. You are not your body,just like you are not your car. Consciousness drives the body like you drive your car. A dead body is a body that is lost consciousness,therefore unconscious.

Is there difference btw loss of consciousness and being unconscious? Yes, consciousness cannot die, if it can, how possibly can HE boast of living Forever?

ifeness:


They created your body which gave room for consciousness to occupy a new body.

Burden of proof. Is this scientific? Is this assertion provable?

Misogynist2014:
Is there difference btw loss of consciousness and being unconscious? Yes, consciousness cannot die, if it can, how possibly can HE boast of living Forever?

Same meaning depending on how you use them. But from my observation "loss of consciousness" and "unconscious" are the same thing. Put 1 billion pounds on the ground,the body will not respond to it without consciousness.

Take a moment of silence without doing nothing,you will notice you are still very conscious. We are eternal

Misogynist2014:
Burden of proof. Is this scientific? Is this assertion provable?

Mere observation. No matter what you do,you will still be concsious....the I am will always be aware of what is going on regardless of what form you take.

ifeness:


Same meaning depending on how you use them. But from my observation "loss of consciousness" and "unconscious" are the same thing. Put 1 billion pounds on the ground,the body will not respond to it without consciousness.

Take a moment of silence without doing nothing,you will notice you are still very conscious. We are eternal

God told us in the Bible that a dead man has his consciousness in sleeping mode, he would be woken up in the last days when the Parent consciousness decides whether to keep it or destroy it.

ifeness:


Mere observation. No matter what you do,you will still be concsious....the I am will always be aware of what is going on regardless of what form you take.

Observation! How?

Misogynist2014:
God told us in the Bible that a dead man has his consciousness in sleeping mode, he would be woken up in the last days when the Parent consciousness decides whether to keep it or destroy it.

Do you agree with that?

Misogynist2014:
Observation! How?

Right now you are observing and responding to this conversation. That is Consciousness at work.

ifeness:


Do you agree with that?

Most certainly. God cannot lie (How then would he judge the world)?

ifeness:


Right now you are observing and responding to this conversation. That is Consciousness at work.

How does this correspond to the myth of consciousness flying into you?

Misogynist2014:
Most certainly. God cannot lie (How then would he judge the world)?

You mean you cannot lie?? I am not aware of a separate being called God,because I am a God,so is my dog.We are all one and connected to conscious energy.