Henry120:


Additionally, Jibrin said, six NN ships including NNS Ayam, Barama, Brass, Ekun, Ogue and Yola are currently undergoing refit at the NN Dockyard, Lagos.

The Naval Chief expressed Navy's confident that its local refit efforts will contribute to NN capacity to patrol the nation's vast maritime environment.

"It is worth mentioning that the Nigerian Navy has just signed an agreement with PRIVINVEST, a ship building company in the United Arab Emirates to come to Nigeria and partner with us, so that we can upgrade the Naval Dockyard Lagos in order to begin local construction of capital ships which will meet international standard", he disclosed




Nigerian navy corvette at Exercise African winds 2013

1. That says nothing about your fleet being operational
2. Your corvette in that picture is "on the hard"

Your navy is trash - 90% of vessels cant go to sea

Henry120:


Did your poorly trained men not mortar that poor lady?


T-14 breaking down....... so? It is still the best MBT produced yet.

T-14 breaking down = trash

If a brand new tank cant complete a parade without 3 breaking down... how do you expect it to conduct a war?

Yet again, you shot your mouth off early and have egg on your face!

stillchris:


yeah. in service as a dud on display - what do you want to shoot with a dud?

how do you know its a dud?

patches689:


1. That says nothing about your fleet being operational
2. Your corvette in that picture is "on the hard"

Your navy is trash - 90% of vessels cant go to sea

It clearly states the missile crafts are undergoing an up-grade, and the corvette has taken part in to exercises African winds 2013 and with the chinese in 2014 hence her crew are on-board.

patches689:


T-14 breaking down = trash

If a brand new tank cant complete a parade without 3 breaking down... how do you expect it to conduct a war?

Yet again, you shot your mouth off early and have egg on your face!

I watched the parade and saw no Tank break down.

patches689:


how do you know its a dud?

You have no money to purchase them,

Hence it isn't in service with your Air force,

Hence it is a dud!


Patrick, you can't detonate a dud. It just won't happen no matter how much you try. It just won't explode.

patches689:



Is the Gripen the same class of aircraft as the Su-24?

Rooivalk has a bigger payload.

The same gun... and more ammunition for it.

Again, you shot your mouth off before doing your homework and have embarrassed yourself.

Rooivalk can deploy more weapons, thus it has more firepower. Fact.

I just showed you that aircraft firepower superiority is not measured by payload size.

Su-24 Fencer and Gripen jet are both built to do air to ground attack, the Gripen has more firepower because it carries better weapons technology despite the Su-24 Fencer carrying extra 3,000 kg of weapons above the capacity of the Gripen.

Use your head, even though I know you never really do.....dummy !

MikeCZAR:
You don't know Mr military researcher?

Am I the one making the claim? You said Sudan manufactures missiles, so the burden of proof is on you, go ahead, show us proof now
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MikeCZAR:
If you were to deploy outside Nigeria, you'll need air traffic control capabilities.

Or your jets will not operate during bad weather and limited at night.

Show us your military deployable air traffic and control radars.

Who told you that air forces carry full scale air traffic control radars to FAB ? Air bases with hundreds of combat aircraft have been operating successfully without air traffic control radar since world war I in 1918.

Most air forces in the world will operate an FOB without long range radar.

F-7NI is all weather day/night fighter, even old MiG-21 was doing night combat in Indo-Paki wars.

Military air forces don't need air traffic control radar to operate an FOB of 2 squadron aircraft, unless they are dummies like SAAF whose Southie brains need computers for basic arithmetic.

If South Africa has a big war with 5 forward air bases, do you have 5 mobile radars? The same radars you are claiming for SAAF are the very same mobile radars that belong to SADF army regiments, so when you donate those 3 or 5 radars to air bases, what radar will warn/safeguard your army on 5 different war fronts against enemy air attack?

You like to talk like if SANDF is tall, but it's feeble legs are very short
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MikeCZAR:
Lightweight scout type of helicopter.

Not in the class of MI-28, Rooivalk and Apache!

T-129 is an attack helicopter, and it's recce/combat.

It has superior fling endurance than Mi-28, Rooivalk, or Apache.

T-129 can do recce for hours to find target and then attack. Those bigger helicopters would have run out of fuel on patrol
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MikeCZAR:


Rooivalk: 6 Hardpoints.
T-129: 4 Hard points.

Rooivalk has 4 hardpoints, the 2 wing tips are only for 2 air to air missiles which helicopters hardly ever use, SAAF does not have such missiles.

T-129 uses multiple racks on it's 4 hardpoints and it has missile pods for multiple many air to air missiles and extra gun pods, meaning the T-129 actually uses those 4 hardpoints to carry more weapons, missiles and guns than the Rooivalk. You see what we have been saying? Rooivalk is an obsolete design, a 1980s old war concept helicopter
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MikeCZAR:


Where's the mechanised infantry?

They'll be diner for "anti-tank hunter teams".

Naa !

T-72 Tanks will use smoke dispensers to neutralize the laser guidance systems of all SANDF Ingwe anti-tank missiles.

Palmaria SPHA in direct fire mode will eat up all Ratel Ingwe launchers from 7 km away.

What anti-tank hunter teams do you have? Nigerian army infantry will be eating up your manpower shortage ridden troops, we have an army 3 times bigger, your tank hunters will be busy trying to survive after we surround your army completely in a circle, your ATGM won't even see the turret of a T-72, you won't get so close when your army is already encircles and gasping for breath....ZERO war experienced SANDF
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jln115:

More opinion based Bull sh:t!

OH!!!!!!!!! and BTW NAF does not have any T-129s, so why are you comparing a weapon system that Nigeria does not have?

How many times have you guys posted DENEL weapons that are still inside laboratory test phase here?

Plus project Biro OPV that has no name

Nigeria is currently buying aircraft and armour, it's public knowledge, NAF has chosen T-129 Ataka !
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Henry120:


Apparently not as much as your generals and defence ministry officials got buying fighter jets you are too mentally handicapped to fly.


“South Africa acquired three submarines that spend most of the time on the ‘hard’ at Simon’s Town and 50 BAE Hawk and BAE/Saab Gripen fighter aircraft for which the country had almost no pilots to fly them, mechanics to maintain them, or even the money to fuel them.




(Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described abuse of women in the SANDF as "common," adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011).


You are apparently good at impregnating female recruits. Good for you!!

Submarine that cannot do real combat, SAN is just a photo piece
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jln115:


NAF has 3 pilots for 11 F-7s

Citation needed urgently
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jln115:

Remember when 1 SAN sub sunk an entire Nato fleet? Just imagine what it would do to the NN

Your SAN sank NATO fleet? In which war? Falklands war?

SAN has NEVER fired torpedo in war since 60 years ago. You think war game is real war? You fire one torpedo on NATO fleet and they reply you with twenty
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jln115:

And by state of the art, you mean 60 year old rust buckets!

This are real warships mate:

Old photos mate.

Today, Southie navy has ONLY ONE frigate and ONLY ONE submarine in operational. The rest are dead as cooked fish.

Over 50 years old, NNS Thunder is busy sailing around the continent and saving Africa from piracy while South African navy sits down at home redundant and lazy.

SANDF boasted it will patrol the whole Gulf Of Guinea this year and reach Nigerian waters, but almost 6 months into 2015 we have not even seen a South African canoe patrol up to Angola.

When we were wasting time debating that SAN gulf of Guinea patrol plan 2015 last year, I told @Patches it was a dream that will melt away like the candles you guys burn every night due to ESKOM's new rule of total darkness for all South Africans.

How can SAN use one frigate, one submarine, low fuel, to guard South Africa's massive U-shaped coastline of 3,000+ km and still patrol up to Ghana with same one warship, a frigate with delicate engine, not an endurance OPV....

Your South African military is a dwarf climbing ladder to play basketball !
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MikeCZAR:


T-129: Limited service and untested.

Rooivalk sale/order : 12 units in 25 years

T-129 sales/order : 60 units in 5 years
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patches689:


For the umpteenth time

Rooivalk was not chosen by the Turks as it used french components

Turks have an embargo on the french

Oh, you mean the whole military of Turkey was so illiterate that they did not know that Rooivalk had French engine since the news came out 20 years ago? So Turkey started evaluation before they asked...."Who makes the engine for this Rooivalk" ?

You are a biiiiig fooooool Patrick

Rooivalk was evaluated and Turkey found it obsolete, they dumped your fat turkey chopper
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stillchris:


yeah. in service as a dud on display - what do you want to shoot with a dud?

A similar dud target
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patches689:
hahahaha - armata is sooo sh1t


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDCyRT7Luo

See Henry we fvcking told you - wait until more information is available before proclaiming it "the best tank in the world"

So far it has been in the public eye for just one day and allready we see that it has an unreliable engine, some form of transmission issues and its powerplant as a whole is insufficient for the vehical.

Yet again - like when you accused SAN of shooting at fishermen - you have egg on your face

I don't fall for western propaganda, many NATO equipment fail during early life.

It's a new tank. T-14 is still being tested for service and perfected . F-35 jet is an American equipment that has displayed many years of failure in it's most important role....stealth
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patches689:


Who says they are duds?

Why would the SANDF show off equipment it does not have?

You allways want pictures - now you have them. 100% indisputable proof that the SAAF has the Mokopa

Dud rubber made Mokopa missiles display for DENEL marketing promo show, desperately looking for customers for a 'great' missile with 'super long range' that the world has chosen to ignore....FAIL !
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patches689:



Ancient source, disprove many times.

52 Hawks air-crew (more than 2 per plane) and 18 Gripen aircrew (14 Gripen operational), 22 000 flight hours budgeted for, Submarines are currently extensively used with multiple operations having been conducted this year (3 Major international operations) and with more next year

Its not 2012 anymore buddy.

Anyway - here is the status of your fleet!! 90% of your fleet has been on "the hard" for allmost a decade!! Your FLAGSHIP has not put to sea in oer 5 years!!
Your navy is a paper tiger!!

Pathetic coast gaurd

NOP = NON OPERATIONAL

The Ancient source is actually yours, see now, dummy you posted Nigerian navy fleet operational year 2009

Today 2012, NNS Enyimiri missile corvette is fully operational, Henry has posted the photo yesterday as the ship took part in current multinational sea exercise.

Yes, Nigerian navy has missile warship in operation today 2015
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MikeCZAR:


The only navy in sub-saharan Africa with exercise experience in nuclear vs diesel submarine drills.

Meaning what? Those nuclear submarines have NO nuclear weapons, it's just that they use uranium as engine fuel instead of diesel.

Whom are you trying to fool here ? We Nigerians?

Henry120:


It clearly states the missile crafts are undergoing an up-grade, and the corvette has taken part in to exercises African winds 2013 and with the chinese in 2014 hence her crew are on-board.

patches689:


1. That says nothing about your fleet being operational
2. Your corvette in that picture is "on the hard"

Your navy is trash - 90% of vessels cant go to sea

Dundee, you are posting year 2009 data in 2015

Even defenceweb says all your data is wrong and out-dated....mumu

"Vice Admiral Dele J Ezeoba, Chief of Naval Staff, said that on assuming office in October 2012, he was committed to repositioning the Nigerian Navy, the Navy is also refitting the NNS Ekun fast attack craft, NNS Ohue and NNS Barama minesweepers and will soon refit the NNS Yola and NNS Brass patrol craft. In addition, three inshore patrol craft will be reactivated.

Medium term goals include the acquisition of the ex-US Coast Guard cutter USCGC Gallatin, the completion and commissioning of the first Chinese-built OPV and domestic assembly of the second Chinese OPV, commissioning of the second domestic Seaward Defence Boat, completion of the refit of NNS Brass and NNS Yola and the refit of the frigate NNS Aradu, the fast attack craft NNS Siri, Ayam and Damisa. The refit of the fast patrol boat NNS Ekpe, Ekun and minesweepers NNS Ohue and NNS Barama are also expected to be completed in this period.
"
Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 02 December 2013, Defenceweb.

I recommend you go for weekly brain scan Patches
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Henry120:


It clearly states the missile crafts are undergoing an up-grade, and the corvette has taken part in to exercises African winds 2013 and with the chinese in 2014 hence her crew are on-board.

Your fleet is NOP

Fact

Henry120:


I watched the parade and saw no Tank break down.

So what then are the videos i posted?

T-14 = unreliable

Fact

Henry120:


You have no money to purchase them,

Hence it isn't in serve with your Air force,

Hence it is a dud!


Patrick, you can't detonate a dud. It just won't happen no matter how much you try. It just won't explode.

Who says we have no money? SANDF has a bigger budget than your military.

SANDF is in the process of buying a plethora of equipment... a-darters, CRAM, heavyweight torpedoes, OPV's and IPV's and 236 IFV's

We have money

On the other hand - nigeria is so broke that you have to borrow money to pay peoples wages.

So, I ask again, who says they are duds?

You asked for a picture of the Mokopa in SAAF use... here it is:

agaugust:


I just showed you that aircraft firepower superiority is not measured by payload size.

Su-24 Fencer and Gripen jet are both built to do air to ground attack, the Gripen has more firepower because it carries better weapons technology despite the Su-24 Fencer carrying extra 3,000 kg of weapons above the capacity of the Gripen.

Use your head, even though I know you never really do.....dummy !

Hahahahah.

No one is talking about fighter jets, we are talking about attack-helicopters.

Rooivalk can carry more weapons than the T-129

Rooivalk carrys more ammunition for its gun than the T-129

Hence, it has more firepower.

You didnt do your research and now you have humiliated yourself!!

agaugust:


Who told you that air forces carry full scale air traffic control radars to FAB ? Air bases with hundreds of combat aircraft have been operating successfully without air traffic control radar since world war I in 1918.

Most air forces in the world will operate an FOB without long range radar.

F-7NI is all weather day/night fighter, even old MiG-21 was doing night combat in Indo-Paki wars.

Military air forces don't need air traffic control radar to operate an FOB of 2 squadron aircraft, unless they are dummies like SAAF whose Southie brains need computers for basic arithmetic.

If South Africa has a big war with 5 forward air bases, do you have 5 mobile radars? The same radars you are claiming for SAAF are the very same mobile radars that belong to SADF army regiments, so when you donate those 3 or 5 radars to air bases, what radar will warn/safeguard your army on 5 different war fronts against enemy air attack?

You like to talk like if SANDF is tall, but it's feeble legs are very short
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[citations needed]

Fact is. Nigeria has no forward radar

Fact is. Nigeria is unable to operate in a contested airspace.

agaugust:


T-129 is an attack helicopter, and it's recce/combat.

It has superior fling endurance than Mi-28, Rooivalk, or Apache.

T-129 can do recce for hours to find target and then attack. Those bigger helicopters would have run out of fuel on patrol
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Uhhh no.

Rooivalk has longer range 740 km

compared to the A129's 510 km


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