agaugust:


Naa !

T-72 Tanks will use smoke dispensers to neutralize the laser guidance systems of all SANDF Ingwe anti-tank missiles.

Palmaria SPHA in direct fire mode will eat up all Ratel Ingwe launchers from 7 km away.

What anti-tank hunter teams do you have? Nigerian army infantry will be eating up your manpower shortage ridden troops, we have an army 3 times bigger, your tank hunters will be busy trying to survive after we surround your army completely in a circle, your ATGM won't even see the turret of a T-72, you won't get so close when your army is already encircles and gasping for breath....ZERO war experienced SANDF
.

MILAN isn't laser guided.

Palmaria alongside tanks?

Nigerian infantry can't deal with enemy mechanised infantry.

Your tanks will be left without protection.

Your army is 60 000 strong without but can't field a single standardized mechanised infantry battalion with support.

"Anti-tank hunter teams".

agaugust:

Rooivalk sale/order : 12 units in 25 years
T-129 sales/order : 60 units in 5 years .

Limited service and untested.
You wanna talk about orders after what you said about the F-35 orders?

agaugust:


Meaning what? Those nuclear submarines have NO nuclear weapons, it's just that they use uranium as engine fuel instead of diesel.

Whom are you trying to fool here ? We Nigerians?

Ever heard about the Trident missile?

Nuclear submarines are faster, and can stay underwater longer only surfacing to get food stocks. And can perform differently compared diesel subs.

I'm not fooling but as anyone can see I'm simply educating you! YES NIGERIANS.

Henry120:


So, you guy's have graduated from blaming America to blaming the turks...... that's an improvement.

Did you know: The T129 uses American engines and many sub-components?

Henry120:


Half-french : 10 in service, roundly rejected, production line ended.

A/T -129 : over 69 built combat tested since the 1990's, and currently been used by the turks in combating PKK rebels.


Rooivalk, an absolute piece of junk, T-129 super Advanced Helicopter, currently been procured as the spear for Nigerian Airforce Network Enabled Combat Capability program.

The T129 uses foreign engines too! Half American then?

Super advanced in what?

Weaker payload?
Shorter range?
Weaker chin mounted gun?
Untested?


Nigeria is getting nothing!

ViceAdmiral:
The Nigerian military is so broken, its soldiers are refusing to fight

By Kevin Sieff May 10 at 3:30 AM

LAGOS, Nigeria — As the Nigerian military battled Boko Haram over the past year, scores of soldiers made a decision that would put their lives in grave danger — they refused to fight.
It wasn’t for lack of bravery, they said. It was for lack of weapons.

At least 66 of the soldiers have been found guilty of mutiny and sentenced to death by firing squad. Dozens more remain in detention, awaiting trial. The Nigerian government describes them as cowards. Their supporters say they are scapegoats.
“They joined the army to fight, not to commit suicide,” said Femi Falana, an attorney for 59 of the soldiers.

The cases have opened a rare window into the Nigerian military, once one of the strongest in Africa but now struggling to combat an insurgency of several thousand fighters. Rebuilding the army is a major challenge for Muhammadu Buhari, who assumes the presidency of Africa’s most populous nation this month.

Nigeria’s defense budget is over $6 billion — among the highest in sub-Saharan Africa — but experts say much of that is lost to corruption. Many low-level soldiers complain about not receiving their $100-per-month salary for weeks. The troops’ legal cases feature numerous allegations of poor and insufficient weaponry. Some soldiers say they were afraid to even leave the barracks, armed with as little as one rifle and two magazines.
The army doesn’t have a history of desertions. But as the military has escalated its fight against Boko Haram, the reported cases of mutiny have appeared to surge.

In the most prominent case, 54 soldiers from the 111th Special Forces Battalion were sentenced to death for mutiny after they refused to join an operation against the insurgents in August. A month earlier, the same unit had been ambushed, leaving 26 troops dead and 83 others injured. The soldiers then demanded better munitions to fight the rebels, who were armed with anti-aircraft guns and armored personnel carriers, said a court filing from Falana. Ironically, most of the rebels’ weapons appeared to come from Ni­ger­ian military bases they had overrun, according to the surviving troops.

The Special Forces unit had only 174 fighters in August, its commander said in court, rather than the approximately 750 soldiers that battalions are expected to have.
The commander didn’t say why there were so few soldiers. But many Nigerian units have fewer troops than commanders indicate on their payrolls, analysts say, allowing senior officers to take the so-called “ghost” salaries. That is one of several ways in which corruption has weakened the army.

“All this money the military has to purchase weapons is going to (Nigerian officials’) pockets,” said a military officer who is the brother of one of the soldiers who was convicted of mutiny. He spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect his own career.

Ni­ger­ian military officials deny that soldiers are inadequately armed. In the case of the 111th Special Forces Battalion, military officials called soldiers’ justification for not fighting a hollow excuse.

“The Nigerian army is not an organization with a trade union,” whose members can stop working “to protest poor wages or poor working conditions,” said Capt. J.E. Nwosu, the military prosecutor, in his closing remarks.

Experts fault tactical training

In the 1990s, the Nigerian military was hailed for its role in peacekeeping missions in Sierra Leone and Liberia. But after military rule in this country ended in 1999, experts say, the armed forces were kept weak to prevent them from attempting coups. The army currently has around 60,000 soldiers.

“Under-resourcing has gone on for years, and a decline in competence has come with it,” said James Hall,a former British military attache to Nigeria. “The government has been unable to recognize that the military has gone from something competent to something deeply incompetent.”

The quality of the Nigerians’ tactical training has declined, experts say. Human rights abuses appear to have increased in recent years, too, including allegations of extrajudicial executions and the destruction of property.

Even Boko Haram’s leader, Abubakar Shekau, has poked fun at the Ni­ger­ian military.

“You send 7,000 troops?” Shekau said in one video recording posted online this year. “This is small. Only 7,000? By Allah, it is small. We can seize them one by one.”

Troops from Nigeria, Chad and Niger have recently pushed the Boko Haram fighters out of a fiefdom in northern Nigeria that had grown to the size of Maryland. But experts say the rebels have gathered in a vast, remote forest and still pose a significant threat.

Some of the mutiny trials have revealed startling glimpses of soldiers’ anger at their superiors. In one high-profile case, 12 soldiers allegedly shot at their commanding officer after he ordered them to conduct a mission that they claimed was tantamount to suicide. The officer somehow was not injured, and the soldiers claim they intended to express their anger, not to commit murder. They, too, were sentenced to death.

“These are issues of indiscipline,” said Gen. Chris Olukolade, the military’s spokesman, “and they undermine the morale of the others.”

The army chief of staff must confirm all of the mutiny sentences before formal appeals can be filed.

It’s unclear what Buhari’s policy will be toward the soldiers in detention or those already sentenced. But one of his campaign managers, Chibuike Amaechi, appeared to take the soldiers’ side when the issue emerged before the presidential election in March.

“The soldiers have the right to protest for the federal government’s failure to fully equip them,” Amaechi said at a news conference in December.

Buhari, a former military dictator, has vowed to defeat Boko Haram. But analysts say it may not be easy to rebuild the institution he once led.

“Buhari’s supporters have to realize that the army that Buhari left is not the army of today, which is broken, ill-motivated and under-equipped,” said Moses E. Ochonu, an associate professor of African history at Vanderbilt University.

Some top military officers said that the announcement that prosecutors are seeking capital punishment for the mutineers has put an end to the practice of deserting.

“It spread like a virus until we enforced the law,” said one senior military officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the cases. “They were thinking they could get away with it.”

Nigerian officials say one of their greatest deficiencies in equipment is a product of a failed deal with the United States.

Last year, the Nigerian government tried to equip its military with Cobra attack helicopters, but the deal was halted by the United States. The Nigerian ambassador to Washington said that equipment “would have brought down the terrorists within a short time.”

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in November that the sale was canceled “due to concerns about Nigeria’s ability to use and maintain this type of helicopter . . . and ongoing concerns about the Nigerian military’s protection of civilians when conducting military operations.”

The U.S. government has also declined to share some intelligence with Nigerian security officials, due to concerns about Boko Haram infiltration.

Those disagreements appear to have led the Nigerian government to cancel a U.S. mission to train one of its Special Forces battalions last year.

At least one of the soldiers sentenced to death for mutiny was trained in Pakistan. But he told the court that the program involved weapons that the Ni­ger­ian soldiers wanted but never received, such as German submachine guns. It’s another example, according to the soldiers, of the army’s dysfunction.

“They have a crisis in the military,” said Falana, the attorney. “And they’re trying to use these boys to make a point.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/the-nigerian-military-is-so-broken-its-soldiers-are-refusing-to-fight/2015/05/06/d56fabac-dcae-11e4-b6d7-b9bc8acf16f7_story.html

you are already too late mate. Vice news has already rubbished this rubbish report with their man on ground and on the frontlines. not thousands of miles away in air-conditioned offices.

and it seems you just subscribed for data. This your news is old and already proven to be false.

stillchris:


you are already too late mate. Vice news has already rubbished this rubbish report with their man on ground and on the frontlines. not thousands of miles away in air-conditioned offices.

and it seems you just subscribed for data. This your news is old and already proven to be false.

Vice proved no such thing

Infact,Vice highlighted the fact that your men are poorly equipped

patches689:


And the irony is that we operate them just fine.

Ask the NATO taskforce we sunk about our subs.

Ask the Swedes and Czech about our Gripen pilots.

Go ask the M23 about our troops.

Go dig up the mass grave outside bangui containing the bodies of over 400 seleka men we slayed and see if they have criticism for us.

Go ask Lestho how it feels to be completely taken over in less than 12 hours.

You hire South Africans to win your wars for you.

The only inferiority complex here is you - your jealousy over our capabilities is well apparent.

glory-stealing again!!!

controversies never part company with SANDF.

stop displaying the medals of international campaigns you didnt even lead as your own.


when your generals quit engaging their own military writers to distort war records, then you will begin to realize your what a fraud your military is.

stillchris:


you are already too late mate. Vice news has already rubbished this rubbish report with their man on ground and on the frontlines. not thousands of miles away in air-conditioned offices.

and it seems you just subscribed for data. This your news is old and already proven to be false.

Nigerian military court-martials General blamed for loss of Baga to Boko Haram

The Nigerian military on Monday commenced the court martial of a Brigadier General, Enitan Ransome-Kuti, and four other senior officers, blamed for the loss of Baga in Borno State, to Boko Haram insurgents in January.

Mr. Ransome-Kuti, his Chief of Staff, Lieutenant Colonel G.A. Suru, and some other senior officers, were arrested for failing to repel Boko Haram attack on the headquarters of the Multinational Joint Task Force [MNJTF] in Baga.

Also arrested were the Commanding Officers of the 134 and 174 Battalions — Lieutenant Colonel Haruna and Major Aliyu. The two battalions are under the MNJTF.

Mr. Ransome-Kuti was the commander of the multinational force during the attack.

The commanders were detained shortly after they arrived Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, from Monguno, where they took refuge with troops after being dislodged from Baga.

Military sources told PREMIUM TIMES that authorities were especially angry with Mr. Ransome-Kuti for his inability to lead his troop to counter the onslaught in Baga, despite the high calibre weapons and ammunition available to his unit.

After their arrests, the senior officers were held at the officers’ mess of the 21 Armoured Brigade, and were asked to account for the weapons lost to the insurgents.

At the trial which took place at the Defence Headquarters garrison in Abuja, on Monday, the officers were represented by counsels from the Femi Falana chambers.

PREMIUM TIMES understands that the defence team raised concerns that the military high command, led by the Chief of Army Staff, Kenneth Minimah, may interfere with the process.

According to sources at the trial, the team told the court that Mr. Minimah had made it clear that he wanted the accused officers to be severely punished to serve as a lesson to others who may abandon their duty posts.

The team cited an interview the army chief had with This Day newspaper two weeks ago, in which he said he set up a court-martial to ensure the officers were dismissed.

“The soldier knows that if he runs away he will be dismissed. So everybody was prepared to stand and fight and die, because if you run back there is nothing. And for the fact that they stood and fought back for hours instead of running caught the Boko Haram by surprise…and terrified them,” Mr. Minimah had said in the ThisDay interview.

The army chief said, “At one point these equipment came in, and with my personal effort of ensuring that officers and soldiers were court-martialed, dismissed for running in the face of adversaries, for abandoning the equipment we have and running away and so forth, the psyche of the Nigerian soldier changed.”

The team urged the court to disengage itself because it may be biased, and asked that a new court, made up of officers from the Air Force and Navy, be set up to hear the case.

The defendant’s objection was overruled by the court which said it cannot rely on media reports, sources told PREMIUM TIMES.

It however promised that the process will be fair and that any officer not found guilty will be set free.

Officials also told PREMIUM TIMES that as of Tuesday, the accused officers were yet to know what charges were filed against them.

The court-martial is the second involving senior officers in the fight against Boko Haram, as those affected by previous trials since 2014, were mostly non-commissioned personnel, many of who were either sacked or sentenced to death.

In January, 22 top military officers were court martialled at the Ikeja Military Cantonment in Lagos.

The officers included a Brigadier-General – J.O Komolafe; 14 Colonels – A. Laguda, V. Ebhaleme, V.O. Ita, and I.B. Maina, I. A Aboi, I.M Kabir, M.H. Abubakar, A. A. Egbejule, N. N. Orok, C. A. Magaji, A.O. Agwu, A.J.S. Gulani, O.O. Obolo and A.M. Adetuyi; one Major – M.M Idris; five Captains – M Adamu, O. A. Adenaike, M. Gidado, M.M. Clark and S. Raymond and one Second Lieutenant – S.O Olowa.

In December 2014, 54 soldiers were sentenced to death for conspiracy to commit mutiny and mutiny. The Army said the soldiers disobeyed a direct order from their superior officers to take part in an operation. The soldiers however said they only asked for support equipment before embarking on the operation.

Twelve other soldiers had been previously sentenced to death by firing squad for shooting at a car conveying their commanding officer, Ahmed Mohammed, a Major General.

The soldiers revolted after some of their colleagues were ambushed and killed by Boko Haram extremists, an attack they blamed on their superior officer.

Also in December, 2014, over 200 soldiers were sacked after an overnight trial. They had been held in detention for three months and denied communication to their families or legal representation.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/182466-nigerian-military-court-martials-general-blamed-for-loss-of-baga-to-boko-haram.html

Is that also rubbish??By the way how many soldiers have been executed so far after being court marshaled for refusing to go into battle with only as little as a magazine.Well if it turns out to be rubbish than Nigerian media leaves a lot to be desired for with with their accuracy....JUST SAYING....And by the looks of things your military seems to be very well adept at court marshaling soldiers who at times seem to have legitimate concerns...apart form shooting at your own general that is

lezz:
glory-stealing again!!!

controversies never part company with SANDF.

stop displaying the medals of international campaigns you didnt even lead as your own.


when your generals quit engaging their own military writers to distort war records, then you will begin to realize your what a fraud your military is.

Well done.

You typed 4 whole sentences and said absolutely NOTHING!!

An impressive feat

patches689:


First, Turks purchased the missiles from China as they were significantly cheaper and the chinese offered a tech transfer*
*guess who will be interested in the technology (the rest of NATO)

Second, the T129 uses the LHTEC CTS800-4N engine - this is only found on the Super Lynx and AW159 Wildcat of which Nigeria has neither.

Third, it is not combat tested and has not even seen extensive production yet.

Fourth, this is all speculation.

You lack basic understanding.

Agusta is the parent company in-charge of the A-129, which the T-129 is a derivative of. Seeing that Nigeria Operates across the Navy, Airforce and Civilian board many Agusta type Helicopters and a maintenance facility, I don't see how the T-129 would present a parts challenge.

Read, then understand, before contributing your irrelevant opinion.


Most Agusta Helicopters use American engines, I don't see how that's a problem. I also made it clear that the Nigerian military mostly fly the A109 and 139.

The T-129 is currently engaging turkish PKK terrorists in the mountains. The A-129 entered into service in 1990 has seen extensive combat.

The Nigerian CAS said, the service is in the process of acquiring T-129 for it's Network Enabled Combat program.

The message is very clear.

MikeCZAR:
The T129 uses foreign engines too! Half American then?

Super advanced in what?

Weaker payload?
Shorter range?
Weaker chin mounted gun?
Untested?


Nigeria is getting nothing!

The Nigerian Airforce would operate 2 Helicopter types that are way better than your Half-french Helicopter. The MI-35m and T-129.

It, when inducted would be the most advanced Helicopter in Africa, ahead of the Algerian MI-28N, Egyptain Apache, and the Nigerian MI-35m.

The Helicopter sees you first, has standoff munitions, well...... goodbye vienna!!


You should be worried about purchasing fuel for your Aircrafts, not the Helicopters Nigeria is ordering.

MikeCZAR:
Did you know: The T129 uses American engines and many sub-components?

Nice graduation from blaming the Americans to blaming the Turks.

Bunch of "maradonas".

patches689:



HAHAHAHAHA

@Henry120

Proof of what I was saying.

You are broke!!! You cannot even pay soldiers wages!!!

Your men are terribly equipped!!

No support weapons can be provided!! Men are issued one magazines worth of ammunition!! Transported in civilian construction vehicals!!

ELITE SPECIAL FORCES TROOPS REFUSE TO FIGHT!!!

You see, our standards are higher than yours we have a crisis in the military - but if it were Nigeria you would be extatic with the state of your army!!

Pathetic rebel worthy army!!

(Actually, you are not worthy of rebels)

Completely debunked by the Vice news documentary. Karj larsen was on the ground in the heat of battle!

Next!!!

Henry120:


You lack basic understanding.

Agusta is the parent company in-charge of the A-129, which the T-129 is a derivative of. Seeing that Nigeria Operates across the Navy, Airforce and Civilian board many Agusta type Helicopters and a maintenance facility, I don't see how the T-129 would present a parts challenge.

Read, then understand, before contributing your irrelevant opinion.


Most Agusta Helicopters use American engines, I don't see how that's a problem. I also made it clear that the Nigerian military mostly fly the A109 and 139.

The T-129 is currently engaging turkish PKK terrorists in the mountains. The A-129 entered into service in 1990 has seen extensive combat.

The Nigerian CAS said, the service is in the process of acquiring T-129 for it's Network Enabled Combat program.

The message is very clear.

1. No - there is no parts commonality with the platforms you have. Thus there is a parts challenge as engineers and mechanics will have to be retrained to operate it, massive stores of parts will have to be aquired and so will extensive ammounts of specialist equipment. This will be costly and challenging.
2. Again, you dont operate helicopters that use the same engine or configuration. So no - there is no comminality
3. The T129 has seen no combat. The T-129 is not the A-129
4. Yes, your leadership also said you would get Tucano's, T80U's, Su30's, JF-17s etc etc etc and you havent.

You arent getting the T129, you dont have the infrastructure to support it, you dont have the money to buy it, and the Turks are too busy building their own to sell you any in the near future.

I am sorry that reality does not correlate to your delusion. But these are the facts.

Henry120:


The Nigerian Airforce would operate 2 Helicopter types that are way better than your Half-french Helicopter. The MI-35m and T-129.

It, when inducted would be the most advanced Helicopter in Africa, ahead of the Algerian MI-28N, Egyptain Apache, and the Nigerian MI-35m.

The Helicopter sees you first, has standoff munitions, well...... goodbye vienna!!


You should be worried about purchasing fuel for your Aircrafts, not the Helicopters Nigeria is ordering.

How is the Mi-35M better than the Rooivalk?

How is the T-129 better than the Rooivalk?

I keep asking but you can never answer... is it because you are unable to answer?

You should be worried about being able to pay public servants before you dream of buying helicopters you cannot afford.

Henry120:


Completely debunked by the Vice news documentary. Karj larsen was on the ground in the heat of battle!

Next!!!

Really?

And how exactly did vice debunk it?

Come on, tell us.

Reports are clear:

The 54 soldiers belonged to the 111 Special Forces battalion attached to the 7 division of the army in Maiduguri. They are to die by firing squad, the military court ruled.

One of the sacked soldiers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said[b] the soldiers were dismissed for asking for support equipment,[/b] following the army’s plan to convey them in a tipper for an operation in Bama and Gwoza, two strongholds of Boko Haram insurgents.

The soldier, who is originally of the 19th Battalion in Okitipupa in Ondo State, but attached to the 7th division in Maiduguri, said the army detained them for over 90 days before dismissing them after a midnight trial. He said they are owed up to five months in unpaid salaries.


He said they were given two weeks pass and that at the expiration of their pass, they were issued new uniforms, boots and 30 rounds of bullets each as opposed to the statutory 60 rounds. And were going to be conveyed in a tipper lorry to Gwoza and Bama for an operation.


“So we asked for support weapons. No support weapon was provided. Our CO (Commanding Officer) said he would discuss with the GOC (General Officer Commanding) of the 7 Division at the headquarters. When he came back, he said we should stand down. We thought all was well,” our source said.

The soldiers said they refused to take part in the operation because the Army did not provide them with the required combat and support equipment needed for such operations.

Earlier, in September, 12 soldiers were sentenced to death for allegedly shooting at a car conveying their commanding officer, Ahmed Mohammed, a Major General.


You are broke!!! You cannot even pay soldiers wages!!!

Your men are terribly equipped!!

No support weapons can be provided!! Men are issued one magazines worth of ammunition!! Transported in civilian construction vehicals!!

ELITE SPECIAL FORCES TROOPS REFUSE TO FIGHT!!!

You see, our standards are higher than yours we have a crisis in the military - but if it were Nigeria you would be extatic with the state of your army!!

Pathetic rebel worthy army!!

(Actually, you are not worthy of rebels)

patches689:

Well done.
You typed 4 whole sentences and said absolutely NOTHING!!
An impressive feat

since when did your opinion count ?

patches689:


Ancient helicopters and tanks bought under a LOAN before the oil crisis!!

Your government is now broke - oil prices have crashed - you have no more money, you need to borrow just to pay wages!!

SANDF is in difficulties - BUT IS STILL MORE CAPABLE THAN THE NIGERIAN MILITARY

Get it into your head, our standards are higher than yours, our "state of decline" is a level of proficiancy that Nigerian can never nor has ever acheived.

Also, your numbers are heavily inflated. 2 or beechking (for VIP Transport), 2-3 Alpha jet, 1-2 Gazelle etc

Same old same old from the resident clown.

Nigeria's budget is pegged at the Price of oil at $57 per barrel. Oil is currently trading at $60- 65 per barrel.

We are well within our budget.

The Provision of $4.5 billion borrowing was budgeted for and well within Nigeria's borrowing limits. It is routine borrowing, neither was it rushed. The quick disbursement of the cash is credence to this fact.

Nigeria has a very brilliant finance minister.

- only 12 Helicopters from belarus are from the 1 billion dollars credit. The rest of the fleet is budgeted for.

- the SANDF is a completely broke force with no money to purchase basic fuel for it's fleet, an inept and poorly trained force, whose members are only concerned with watching football than doing the actual job of anti-poaching.

Pathetic!!!

- The SANDF's standard are more in the class of Burundi and Malawi, not the Powerful Nigerian military.

- the Nigerian Airforce received 3 Beechcraft last year meant for light transport. The Airforce chief goes on to say that the force is about to receive 3 additional surveillance planes which I suspect are beechcraft.

- the Nigerian Airforce has also taken delivery of 6 up-graded Alpha jets it acquired from Air-USA.

- the Nigerian military has also taken delivery of 8 Gazelle Helicopters which are for the Army.

Get this into your thick skull.

patches689:


And yet, according to SIPRI your military budget is just over $2 billion.

And according to the same source, our military budget is just short of $4 billion.

Posting ancient stories about the difficulties the SANDF is facing proves nothing. Frigates and subs are being fully utiliized, Gripen are at 56% usage (in line with operational requirements) while the Hawks are fully utilized (we have a surplus of Hawks aircrew) and the acquisition of a plethora of new equipment continues (GBADs, VSHORAD, OPV's, IPV's, IFV's, ISTAR equipment, upgrades to the Rookat, G6, G5, reconditioning of SAMIL's, new heavyweight torpedoes etc)

SANDF's budget is allmost twice yours - so if you want to say we are broke, then the implication is that you are beggars. Which is not hard to beleive considering that your governemnt cannot afford to pay its peoples wages

You have no money, fact

Now, again I ask, how do you know they are duds?

Defense budget N968.127 billion that's $6 billion
likely to go up
Read:

Finance minister on defence
spendings
Abuja – The Minister of Finance,
Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, on
Friday said the Federal
Government disbursed N130.7
billion to the defence sector from
January to April.
Okonjo-Iweala made this known
while briefing newsmen during
breakdown of the 2014 budget
signed by the President
Goodluck Jonathan in Abuja.
She said: “Defence spending is
top in everything; you know that
military establishment need new
things to assist them in their
work and ours will not be
different.
“No budget will be enough to
meet their demands but for now,
I think the sector takes almost a
trillion of the budgets.
“To be specific, they have about
N968.127 billion and we have
disbursed N130.7 billion
between January and April
2014,’’ she said
The minister explained that
N85.9billion out of the amount
disbursed was for personnel
cost, saying that the military
paid its personnel because it
was yet to be integrated into the
IPPIS.
Okonjo-Iweala said that N3.8
billion approved by the President
was being processed and would
soon be released, adding that
there were other additional
spending.

http://
www.vanguardngr.com/2014/05
/fg-disburses-n130-7bn-to-
defence-sector-in-4-months-
okonjo-iweala/


As usual Nigerian arms procurement is relatively secretive and our open source derived data can only be an indication of the true scope and volume of Nigerian arms imports.

We are always searching for more information, but we only use open sources for our database. 

best regards
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Pieter Wezeman
Senior Researcher
Arms and Military Expenditure Programme

STOCKHOLM INTERNATIONAL 
PEACE RESEARCH INSTITUTE

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SE-169 70 Solna, Sweden



This is what Sipri has to say on the Nigerian military.

Henry120:


Nigeria's budget is pegged at the Price of oil at $57 per barrel. Oil is currently trading at $60- 65 per barrel.

We are well within our budget.

The Provision of $4.5 billion borrowing was budgeted for and well within Nigeria's borrowing limits. It is routine borrowing, neither was it rushed. The quick disbursement of the cash is credence to this fact.

Nigeria has a very brilliant finance minister.

- only 12 Helicopters from belarus are from the 1 billion dollars credit. The rest of the fleet is budgeted for.

- the SANDF is a completely broke force with no money to purchase basic fuel for it's fleet, an inept and poorly trained force, whose members are only concerned with watching football than doing the actual job of anti-poaching.

Pathetic!!!

- The SANDF's standard are more in the class of Burundi and Malawi, not the Powerful Nigerian military.

- the Nigerian Airforce received 3 Beechcraft last year meant for light transport. The Airforce chief goes on to say that the force is about to receive 3 additional surveillance planes which I suspect are beechcraft.

- the Nigerian Airforce has also taken delivery of 6 up-graded Alpha jets it acquired from Air-USA.

- the Nigerian military has also taken delivery of 8 Gazelle Helicopters which are for the Army.

Get this into your thick skull.

- 6 Beechcraft
[citation needed]

- 8 Gazelle
[citation needed]

- 6 Alpha jets
[citation needed]

As usual you present inflated figures.


Your government is borrowing money to pay workers because it is broke

Africa's richest economy is borrowing money to pay salaries as it struggles through a "difficult cash crunch" brought on by halved oil prices, Nigeria's finance minister revealed.

The news comes as Nigeria prepares to welcome a new government at the end of this month and the country's naira currency remains in a slump, hovering between 180 and 220 to the US dollar. It was trading at 160 a few months ago.
Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala tried to be upbeat in a speech on Tuesday after lawmakers approved the 2015 budget - revised three times because of slashed oil prices that provide 80 percent of revenue for the government of Africa's biggest petroleum producer.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/150506055148505.html

Sandf has, according to SIPIR, NEARLY TWICE the budget of the Nigerian military despite being nearly half the size.

SANDF remains at a standard you could only dream of, with capabilities that make your mouth water.

Nigeria is broke, your military is getting nothing!!!

Henry120:


Defense budget N968.127 billion that's $6 billion
likely to go up
Read:

Finance minister on defence
spendings
Abuja – The Minister of Finance,
Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, on
Friday said the Federal
Government disbursed N130.7
billion to the defence sector from
January to April.
Okonjo-Iweala made this known
while briefing newsmen during
breakdown of the 2014 budget
signed by the President
Goodluck Jonathan in Abuja.
She said: “Defence spending is
top in everything; you know that
military establishment need new
things to assist them in their
work and ours will not be
different.
“No budget will be enough to
meet their demands but for now,
I think the sector takes almost a
trillion of the budgets.
“To be specific, they have about
N968.127 billion and we have
disbursed N130.7 billion
between January and April
2014,’’ she said
The minister explained that
N85.9billion out of the amount
disbursed was for personnel
cost, saying that the military
paid its personnel because it
was yet to be integrated into the
IPPIS.
Okonjo-Iweala said that N3.8
billion approved by the President
was being processed and would
soon be released, adding that
there were other additional
spending.

http://
www.vanguardngr.com/2014/05
/fg-disburses-n130-7bn-to-
defence-sector-in-4-months-
okonjo-iweala/


As usual Nigerian arms procurement is relatively secretive and our open source derived data can only be an indication of the true scope and volume of Nigerian arms imports.

We are always searching for more information, but we only use open sources for our database. 

best regards
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Pieter Wezeman
Senior Researcher
Arms and Military Expenditure Programme

STOCKHOLM INTERNATIONAL 
PEACE RESEARCH INSTITUTE

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This is what Sipri has to say on the Nigerian military.

Procurement =/= national budget

SIPRI says your budget is $2,2 billion. This is fact.

And that e-mail is fake. I too can cook up an e-mail and post it here.

These are the facts.

patches689:


Really?

And how exactly did vice debunk it?

Come on, tell us.

Reports are clear:

The 54 soldiers belonged to the 111 Special Forces battalion attached to the 7 division of the army in Maiduguri. They are to die by firing squad, the military court ruled.

One of the sacked soldiers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said[b] the soldiers were dismissed for asking for support equipment,[/b] following the army’s plan to convey them in a tipper for an operation in Bama and Gwoza, two strongholds of Boko Haram insurgents.

The soldier, who is originally of the 19th Battalion in Okitipupa in Ondo State, but attached to the 7th division in Maiduguri, said the army detained them for over 90 days before dismissing them after a midnight trial. He said they are owed up to five months in unpaid salaries.


He said they were given two weeks pass and that at the expiration of their pass, they were issued new uniforms, boots and 30 rounds of bullets each as opposed to the statutory 60 rounds. And were going to be conveyed in a tipper lorry to Gwoza and Bama for an operation.


“So we asked for support weapons. No support weapon was provided. Our CO (Commanding Officer) said he would discuss with the GOC (General Officer Commanding) of the 7 Division at the headquarters. When he came back, he said we should stand down. We thought all was well,” our source said.

The soldiers said they refused to take part in the operation because the Army did not provide them with the required combat and support equipment needed for such operations.

Earlier, in September, 12 soldiers were sentenced to death for allegedly shooting at a car conveying their commanding officer, Ahmed Mohammed, a Major General.


You are broke!!! You cannot even pay soldiers wages!!!

Your men are terribly equipped!!

No support weapons can be provided!! Men are issued one magazines worth of ammunition!! Transported in civilian construction vehicals!!

ELITE SPECIAL FORCES TROOPS REFUSE TO FIGHT!!!

You see, our standards are higher than yours we have a crisis in the military - but if it were Nigeria you would be extatic with the state of your army!!

Pathetic rebel worthy army!!

(Actually, you are not worthy of rebels)

Again, Completely debunked by the Vice news documentary on the ground and in the fight.

you don't even need half a brain to come to this conclusion.

patches689:


Procurement =/= national budget

SIPRI says your budget is $2,2 billion. This is fact.

And that e-mail is fake. I too can cook up an e-mail and post it here.

These are the facts.

Like i've said to you on many occasions, i'm not going to have this debate with you. Sipri's position on the Nigerian military is clear.

The Nigerian Finance ministry is also clear. Sipri isn't Nigeria's finance ministry, and by their own admission, neither do they claim so.

"We are always searching for more information, but we only use open sources for our database. "..... Sipri.

patches689:


Hahahahah.

No one is talking about fighter jets, we are talking about attack-helicopters.

Rooivalk can carry more weapons than the T-129

Rooivalk carrys more ammunition for its gun than the T-129

Hence, it has more firepower.

You didnt do your research and now you have humiliated yourself!!

Bwahahahaha It is actually the Southies and their Rooivalk obsolete junk metal being humiliated since Friday

More load in kilograms is not equal to more firepower, Rooivalk carries more payload than Apache, but the Apache has more firepower with more advanced weapons and targeting systems including a 30mm gun with 1,200 rounds of ammo, more firepower than Rooivalk 20mm gun with 700 rounds ammo. Payload is not = Firepower. PROVED !

Rooivalk carries more payload of obsolete weapons that are far LESS effective in modern combat compared to T-129 :

1. T-129 has 20mm x 3 barrel gun.....3 times more firepower than Rooivalk 20mm x 1 barrel gun

2. T-129 carries missile pods, a modern hardware for carrying more weapons on a single pylon, it can carry 8 air to air missiles. Rooivalk is obsolete with the wing tip concept of old times, only 2 air to air missiles, no missile pod technology.

3. T-129 carries laser guided rocket pods, meaning one single rocket from a pod of 24 rockets, is guided with precision laser on a target, meaning the T-129 only has to fire one rocket to k.ill one target, but the Rooivalk obsolete unguided rockets need to fire about 10 in a game of gamble and struggle to k.ill one target. Rooivalk has no laser guided precision rocket pod, it is obsolete.

4. T-129 can carry gun pods for two 30mm cannon in addition to three-barrel 20mm cannon on the nose, the Rooivalk cannot carry any extra gun pod, it only has one single barrel 20mm gun and very weak firepower. T-129 has many times more firepower than the weak Rooivalk.

5. T-129 can carry mixed weapons of different types on each pylon, modern technology weapons mix formula, see photo below....

A. four air to air missiles in missile pod
B. laser guided 20 rocket pod
C. four Anti-tank missiles
D. four air to surface missiles

The Rooivalk wil NEVER NEVER NEVER have the above firepower combination of the T-129.

T-129 would have finished successful combat and gone back home while Rooivalk is still struggling to find target and try hit something.

Surely you enjoy my research brother

NAF is pushing SAAF far behind by another 25 years o !
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patches689:


Uhhh no.

Rooivalk has longer range 740 km

compared to the A129's 510 km


[size=16pt]Again, you have failed to do research and again you have humiliated yourself!![/size]

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I see this ultra-modern T-129 is hurting you sooooo baaaad my brah

Range is NOT = Endurance.

Flight endurance is determined by engine work time....

3 hours for the T-129, beats Rooivalk hands down.

You are the one that fails in basic research.

I just begin to figure out that you know next to nothing about aircraft

Range is NOT = Endurance....Lesson 101 to you from Nigerians on Nairaland[/size]
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patches689:


Fact is. Nigeria has no forward radar

Nigeria has armoured vehicle mobile RASIT radars for FOB ops you dummy
.

patches689:


Wait what?

A helicopter with a smaller payload, and less hard-points can carry more weapons?

Citation fvcking needed

See my post above with the photo. T-129 carries extra missiles in pods, extra guns in pods, modern concept.

Rooivalk has no missile pods and no gun pods, old obsolete concept.

Next time do good research before you open your basket mouth brah
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patches689:


Such nonsense.

Your T-72's have no laser warning - they will only know to deploy smoke once the firs wave of Milan2's and Ingwe ATGM's tare into your formation.

Your plameria will be annihalated by long range counter-battery fire from the Valkiri as well as G6

Rooivalk will be using the Mokopa on your flanks

Gripen and Hawks will be dropping PGM's

Your army has no mobility - how will you surround us?

Your pathetic army had to hire us South Africans to defeat rag-tag boko haram... and you think you can defeat us? hahaha!! We are your educators!!

Last time I checked, South Africa hired 60,000 Angolans and 1,000 Zimbabweans, Mozambicans as soldiers in direct combat to help you stop Cuban teenage girl soldiers from capturing Pretoria in broad daylight

No South African fired a bullet against Boko Haram.

5 South African PMC not SANDF soldiers, private company PMC men trained 120 Nigerian soldiers in mobility ops.

No South African militaray man, no SANDF troop has ever stepped into Nigeria to train anybody. PMC is NOT = SANDF.

I see Cuban mechanics inside SANDF base training your army to maintain the vehicles that you built, your own products

Did 5 men in PMC fight on a land mass equal to the size of Scotland?

Col. Eben Barlow confessed that the only job he did was to train 120 man mobile strike force of infantry men in MRAPS.

I have shown photos of Nigerian army and air force Generals doing ALL the war planning and frontline leading the troops into battle directly.

Col. Barlow said the whole war planning was a completely Nigerian army idea, work and success.

Did South Africans operate T-72, BVP-1 IFV, BTR-4E IFV, RM-70 MRLS, BOFORS FH-77, M-56 ARTY, PALMARIA ARTY, ATR-42, BEECHCRAFT ISTAR, F-7NI, ALPAH JET, MI-35 HIND, MI-171 TERMINATOR, AGL, MGL, BERYL, COBRA, VBL, IGIRIGI, VICKERS MBT, SHILKA AAA, CH-3 MISSILE DRONES.....

Now your argument has dug a massive pit for your h.umi.iliation

The rest of your post about T-72, Gripen, Ingwe, Rooivalk, dud rubber fake mokopa, etc needs no reply, it's all garbage and those arguments have been dealt with many times repeatedly on this forum.

SANDF has ZERO war experience and your HIV sick 30 battalions of troops will d.ie from physical fatigue in battlefield not even our bullets

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patches689:


Ok, what will YOUR fleet do?

We are talking about SAN v NN

NATO is just an example of the fact that our submarines are very combat effective.

NN doesnt stand a chance - you said so on Beegugugugs blog!!

You can go argue with the people on Beegeagles blog if you wish.

Here is Nairaland, and I have said SAN has ONLY ONE operational submarine, you have no manpower to put more than one submarine into war.

Your sailors cannot connect simple submarine battery terminals in the right node, so how will they fire torpedo?

Nigeria has at least 2 Anti-submarine warfare helicopters in reserve, yes we can deal with your lone ranger submarine that has to snorkel after two days because it runs on diesel and battery.....the battery your sailors do not know how to connect properly.

Your Southie submarine will hit mud on seabed by poor sailor judgement even before Nigerian ASW helicopter decides to attack it
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patches689:



Patrols of your coast are coming, just wait, we are busy.

Busy sleeping at home....sleepy slumbering South African navy....and no fuel
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patches689:


Rooivalk: Combat tested, 12 built
T-129: No combat, 9 built

What were you saying?

I am saying that Rooivalk needed support from Mi-35 Hind flown by Europeans to ki.ll some half dead M23 rebels that have no single radar or missile to defend themselves, not even a 23mm x 4 gun....

Now that's no combat dude
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