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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:22pm On May 16, 2015 |
mcdreeezy:If barca were the last team left to support, then i would prefer switching to cricket.Don't you get it.Everything about Barca irks me and is the opposite of what Madrid stand for, from their multicoloured jersey to their ugly stadium. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:30pm On May 16, 2015 |
homesteady:Neymar is a stat padding Brazilian fraud who would end up in the Brazilian league b4 30.Most of his international goals has come from meaningless friendlies against poverty teams. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:35pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid: When penaldo scores in matches like these, he jubilates more than a player that just won a trophy |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:35pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid: Lol did u know barcelona first bought alfedo di stefano before the help of general franco real madrid lied they signed him first and took him away? Did u remember the copa final when real madrid won 11-1 did u know they played 1-1 first half before the evil franco threatend our boys if they don't loose they will kill them the reason u don't know all these facts I said is because u are a cr7 ass licker who started supporting madrid since 2009 when cr7 came u are a disgrace to a real madridista infact u are a typical madridiot Did u know the 11-1 has never been celebrated by madrid fans in spain like all normal classico because of its dark history dude when we talk of crimes madrid is first U talk of our stadium ugly? Wake me up when your santiago bernaboooo who boo their legends has a 90000 capacity talk less of more lol Dude am sure if I ask u to mention the year madrid won all 10ucs u will need google assistance lmao stop calling urself a madrid I even know about ur dark history club more than u I hope franco and his men rot in hell with all madrid owners in the past infact if want to go to hell its to spit on his face Once again check that pathetic dive by penaldo I won't stop till u watch it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:36pm On May 16, 2015 |
nonsoroyalty:13 to 5? Now that's spoon feeding.I don't even think Neymar has up to 13 assists this season.Yet he has been assisted 13 times by a single player.I wonder how many times he has been assisted by Suarez. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by mcdreeezy: 10:38pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid:So Camp Nou is ugly and Santiago Bernabeu is fine? Your case is strong |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:39pm On May 16, 2015 |
Lol
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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:39pm On May 16, 2015 |
ollah1:Name your top 10. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:41pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid:And how many has bale assisted ronaldo and ronaldo vice versa u emptied brainless man |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:43pm On May 16, 2015 |
ollah1:I bet divemar would break Pele's national team record without playing a single WC final.#Fraud. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Krasid(m): 10:49pm On May 16, 2015 |
nonsoroyalty:Story for the gods.Alfredo di stefano chose the better team and it was evident in the success attained at los blancos. 1 Like |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:51pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid: He is less a diver than ur penaldo and he is still young, he can still still win the WC. Penaldo can't even get to the knock out stage anymore. Bale can't even see the light of world cup. Hehe 1 Like |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Eruditor: 11:05pm On May 16, 2015 |
Nonsoroyalty knows his facts. Without goals CR7 is an average winger. SAF said Nani reads the game better than CR7. CR7 switched his play by moving 20 feet up the field while Messi switched his game to play 20 feet deep yet CR7 cannot outscore Messi. Even Mou said any team with Messi will win Titles. Sadly, he didn't say so for CR7. Neymar is the next Ballon D'or after Messi relinquishes it. CR7 has been ably compensated with his 2013 award (which was benevolent of Sep Blatter). 2014 was more or less well-deserved. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:08pm On May 16, 2015 |
Eruditor: Of course I know my facts I wrote a long post ands he only replied about alfredo di stefano he forgot barcelona were the ones who cancelled the contract saying they can't share a player with an evil club as madrid |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:17pm On May 16, 2015 |
How many of us remember that 22-game winning streak? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:20pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid:U see why u are a 13year old kid get ur fact right they took the case to court infact we won the case madrid had no proof they bought him earlier but due to franco The court said barca will share stefano for 5yr he will play for barca the next 5yrs he will play for real madrid but just like king solomon barca said the will rather let stefano go than share him with madrid so he left Did u know franco almost killed johan cryuff when he named his son jordi? Wen he was a barca player go buy his auto biography And lastly u have 10ucl 32laliga most of them are with the help of francos Without franco lemme tell u how shit u are this century #one laliga in seven years #one ucl in last 12years #three copa del reys in 22years #this is ur 4th trophyless season In the last eight years #and finally my best part the special one 3 season in madrid 3 trophies Guardiola 4seasons @ barca 14 throphies plus two ucl And no am not saying guardiola>mourinho no no no Am just showing u how shit ur club is this century w/o the help of almighty franco Believe when I say I know more about ur club than you am 42 years old by Gods grace the fact am arguing with a boy like u is because on the internet we are all equals I have been watching la liga when u were still on diaper s 3 Likes |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:22pm On May 16, 2015 |
Chanchit:how did real madrid get to the finals of those competitions? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:26pm On May 16, 2015 |
homesteady:how many la liga teams are as physical as ATM. and how many EPL team are not physical by nature |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:29pm On May 16, 2015 |
Having been the brightest star in a team that
won the European Cup in the competition's first
five seasons, Alfredo Di Stefano is almost
unanimously regarded as the greatest player in
Real Madrid's history.
The club has gone into a state of mourning following
his death on Monday at the age of 88.
As current club president Florentino Perez noted in
his emotional tribute, in a symbolic way, Di Stefano
simply is Real Madrid. His presence looms so large
that he came as close as anybody ever will to the
status of being "bigger than the club".
But football history could have been different - very
different indeed. Because when the magical
Argentine forward first opted for a move to Spain, he
appeared to be destined not for Real but their eternal
rivals Barcelona.
The story of Di Stefano's transfer to Los Blancos is a
fascinating and complex web of claims, denials,
counter-denials and conspiracy theories involving
five clubs in three countries. There are allegations of
treachery, a mysteriously ripped-up contract and -
possibly - the personal intervention of a dictator.
In the spring of 1952, Di Stefano was already a player
of quite some renown. A 25-year-old Argentina
international boasting an almost goal-per-game
scoring record, he travelled to Spain for a friendly
tournament in Madrid with his Colombian club side,
Millonarios.
His performances were breathtaking, immediately
prompting both Barcelona and Real Madrid to push
hard for his signature.
Di Stefano career stats
Club Games/goals
Huracan 25/10
River Plate 72/53
Millonarios 294/267
Real Madrid 396/308
Espanyol 60/14
Barca appeared to take an early lead in a race that
was complicated immensely by the fact that Di
Stefano's registration rights were also claimed by
Argentine giants River Plate, who were still less than
delighted about their star player's controversial (and
perhaps illegal) move to Colombia three years
earlier.
Nevertheless, with hard-nosed nationalist Catalan
lawyer Ramon Trias Fargas leading the negotiations,
Barca embarked upon slow but steady progress with
both South American clubs. However they made what
appears to have been a fatal error by
underestimating Millonarios when they enlisted the
help of another Catalan who was living in Colombia,
Joan Busquets.
Busquets just happened to be a director of
Millonarios' biggest local rivals, Santa Fe, and his
presence at the bargaining table made the Colombian
club suddenly reluctant to agree to the move -
especially when Barca strangely submitted an almost
derisory initial offer, which was promptly rejected.
Apparently believing that Millonarios were irrelevant
and that River Plate were the only club they needed
to do business with, Barca reacted to having their bid
refused by essentially ignoring such an unwanted
development.
Instead of taking the rebuffal seriously, they arranged
for Di Stefano and his family to leave Colombia and
flew them to the north-east of Spain, where he
started to settle into life with his 'new' club and even
played at least one pre-season friendly for Barca in
the summer of 1953.
At that point, however, the Spanish Football
Federation (RFEF) intervened by refusing to sanction
the transfer on the grounds that Millonarios had not
agreed to it. The RFEF dismissed Barca's complaints
that the deal had nothing to do with the Colombian
club, who the Catalans claimed had signed Di Stefano
illicitly in the first place.
Barca refused to budge from their position that they
had an agreement with River Plate, who they believed
were the legal owners of Di Stefano's registration.
In the meantime, Real president Santiago Bernabeu
had taken advantage of the uncertainty to reach a
similar deal with Millonarios. An impasse ensued.
When the RFEF eventually reached its verdict in
September 1953, it came to the startling compromise
that Di Stefano could play for alternate clubs over the
course of four years, starting with a season at Real.
Alfredo Di Stefano's honours
Five European Cups 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960
(Real Madrid)
Eight Spanish
leagues 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1961,
1962, 1963, 1964 (Real Madrid)
One Spanish Cup 1962 (Real Madrid)
One
Intercontinental
Cup 1960 (Real Madrid)
Two Argentine
leagues 1945, 1947 (River Plate)
One America Cup 1947 (River Plate)
Four Colombian
leagues 1949, 1951, 1952, 1953
(Millonarios Bogota)
Humiliated Barca president Marti Carreto was forced
to resign and the interim board ripped up the
contract, freeing Di Stefano to join Real for good on
the agreement that Los Blancos paid back to Barca
the 4.5 million pesetas fee they had already handed
over to River Plate.
The rest, as they say, is history, but plenty of
questions remain unanswered. Why did Barca fail to
reach a deal with Millonarios? Why did the RFEF
refuse to sanction Di Stefano's transfer when Fifa had
already waved it through? And why then did Barca, if
they believed in their case, tear up the contract
rather than sticking to their guns?
The big underlying question is the extent to which
Spain's ruler, General Franco, was involved.
Throughout the 1950s, Real were regarded by their
(many) enemies as Franco's team or the 'Regime
Team'. Although the extent of the dictator's meddling
in sporting matters has probably been exaggerated,
it certainly was true that he had dealings over the
years with Real president Bernabeu and occasionally
exerted significant influence upon the RFEF.
Any conspiracy theory carries unusual weight from
such a politically explosive era. Strange as it sounds,
there have even been unproven claims that one or
more of Barca's negotiators were acting as double-
agents for Real, deliberately sabotaging the deal to
ensure Di Stefano eventually moved to the capital.
Even now, the circumstances of Di Stefano's arrival in
Spain is an almost uniquely emotive topic.
Barca fans angrily believe their team was robbed by
dark governmental forces. The club's official website
bitterly bemoans "a strange federative manoeuvre
with Francoist backing".
Real supporters bristle with indignation at the
suggestion of underhand dealings and maintain they
simply took advantage of Barca's sloppiness rather
than enlisting the assistance of General Franco.
Whatever the exact truth of the matter, the end result
was that Di Stefano did move to Madrid, making his
debut in a friendly against French club Nancy on 23
September 1953. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:30pm On May 16, 2015 |
Krasid:The jersey is a combination of two dull colors. semi blue and semi red. even there away jerseys na kleg designs. lol |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Chanchit: 11:31pm On May 16, 2015 |
usbcable:. By fielding 11 players. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:32pm On May 16, 2015 |
nonsoroyalty:Did you know that all that you just typed are your personal opinions and assumptions. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:33pm On May 16, 2015 |
mcdreeezy:Yes by a mile |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:37pm On May 16, 2015 |
Eruditor: what is the lenght of a normal football pitch sef? where in your imaginations did SAF say the above? Neymar BDO? lets wait and see. JR and GB dey kampe |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:38pm On May 16, 2015 |
nonsoroyalty:source? |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:39pm On May 16, 2015 |
Austeenx:we do and it was fun while it lasted. now run along |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Chanchit: 11:39pm On May 16, 2015 |
@nonsorayalty, that story was very interesting, I thought I won't be able to read it to the end. But Godhas rewarded. Barca with the MESSI el magnifico! |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by homesteady(m): 11:44pm On May 16, 2015 |
usbcable: The physicality of EPL is overrated! If Sterling can survive there, why won't Neymar be able to survive there? If you have pace, you are good to go in EPl, and Neymar has loads of it! |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 11:44pm On May 16, 2015 |
nonsoroyalty:@ bolded Franco threatened the whole of Europe abi? BTW everybody uses google. what is the name of the founders of FC Barcelona? Am sure you will have to google that too. so stop forming james bond for here. You dont know his age either. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:45pm On May 16, 2015 |
usbcable:Did u know there are sources to what I said u dumbfuck |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:48pm On May 16, 2015 |
usbcable: Of course I will run along with the trophies. |
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:49pm On May 16, 2015 |
Usbcable I don't need to know his age age his way of speaking shows it all And I made a mistake I meant the laliga part was help by him btw I can't start mentioning source google am lol even check rm in wikipedia they will tell u about the classico 11-0 and why it is not celebrated in madrid as the 5-0 we gave them |
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