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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 5:12pm On May 19, 2015
smokescreen4:
@kaboninc I don't know if you're a Christian but know onething when we leave here we Will be judged according to our deeds, I don't think men will be pardoned or excused cause you guys have joysticks, so when you decide to act like gods in this YOUR WORLD remember we will all give account of our deeds oneday.

Speaking about Christianity, maybe you should consult the bible on the curse placed on the women folks by that same God who will judge us.

In as much as I say the world is a men's world, haven't you seen me saying that it is the source of our (men's) undoing and nemesis? Why do you choose to settle on the 'it is a men's world' part? Does it tickle you that much?

After all, most wars and conflicts and crimes ever occurred usually have a woman at the center.

Please be holistic when making reference to my comments so you don't portray me as being one-sided as someone has just caught the bug.

Thanks.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 5:23pm On May 19, 2015
@kimoni, I don't know why nairalanders are disgustingly hypocritical. undecided undecided undecided
You read some posts and want to puke.
Tufiakwa.

@westendel, you should have followed Babyosisi's tactical method. I feel like your sister would have caved under quiet pressure from you in private than that public spectacle you went to create.

Like I said before, don't let anyone guilt you into taking him back. They've started saying he did It because he wants a child. I wonder if it would be ok for you to go try some guy elsewhere for a child too. Or maybe try your husband's brother.

Nne Your life is not meant to be miserable making up for the mistakes of others and your happiness is non-negotiable. You're not created to swallow pain like you're not human and jump up to "work on your home" when the person you're with is not working with you.

Forgiveness is better when it comes from your heart not when hypocrites push you with bible quotations that they easily forget when it is their turn to practice real Christianity.

@that separation. Good idea.

Collect your thoughts calm yourself and make 'your' decision.
Not the decision others feel you should make.
Kimoni:


Olu, can I ask you 2 simple questions.

Are you married?

If your wife whom you love and trust so much cheated on you severally with your own blood brother, what will you do? Fight for her love all over again?

Sincerely, answer these questions.


There is a thread that got to FP yesterday where the guy said he forgave his wife for cheating on him for 5 years with a younger person and I did not find one guy that supported this act, instead, they were all insulting him for daring to forgive a cheating wife. And a lady that "mistakenly" asked if he truly saw the chats proving the infidelity got dragged all over the thread.

Now, back to the question, why should forgiveness only lie with the woman and never with the man? Because women don't get hurt or they probably don't have blood flowing in their veins

Only a man is allowed to start divorce proceedings? But with a woman, it's a taboo??

And any woman advising it must be a hypocrite?? But when men advise divorce to a cheating partner, it's okay?

Please show me exactly where the hypocrisy is coming from.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 5:25pm On May 19, 2015
The bible cursed women to suffer wandering p5nis from their husbands? undecided
kaboninc:


Speaking about Christianity, maybe you should consult the bible on the curse placed on the women folks by that same God who will judge us.

In as much as I say the world is a men's world, haven't you seen me saying that it is the source of our (men's) undoing and nemesis? Why do you choose to settle on the 'it is a men's world' part? Does it tickle you that much?

After all, most wars and conflicts and crimes ever occurred usually have a woman at the center.

Please be holistic when making reference to my comments so you don't portray me as being one-sided as someone has just caught the bug.

Thanks.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 5:25pm On May 19, 2015
*First of all I want to say sorry that you have to go through all this.. the betrayal,the denial even the confusion of not knowing what to believe. I may not understand exactly how you feel but I know it must hurt.

*You saw some evidence that shows that your sister slept with your husband but then again it was denied.

*Your sister was going to take an oath to prove her innocence.

*The elderly and church members are reminding you that Jacob married thirty wives.

Unless you are a child you know what you saw on that chat..perhaps sexting.
And you must not be lying against your own family.

You are not just suffering from betrayal but lies too. In your mind,you kept saying what do I do.

Even if this is true,you can choose to forgive but only if you want to..really want to.

On the other hand you can choose to divorce him,you have every right to. Jesus said that adultery is the only basis for divorce and there was no gender differences.

If you choose any of these,please do so for your happiness and not because of what people will say or convince you to.

Your happiness matters and you deserve it all!

Once again be strong dear.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 5:29pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


Speaking about Christianity, maybe you should consult the bible on the curse placed on the women folks by that same God who will judge us.

In as much as I say the world is a men's world, haven't you seen me saying that it is the source of our (men's) undoing and nemesis? Why do you choose to settle on the 'it is a men's world' part? Does it tickle you that much?

After all, most wars and conflicts and crimes ever occurred usually have a woman at the center.

Please be holistic when making reference to my comments so you don't portray me as being one-sided as someone has just caught the bug.

Thanks.

Abeg help tell me this course.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by smokescreen4: 5:33pm On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
The bible cursed women to suffer wandering p5nis from their husbands? undecided
LOL, It is a man's world God loves them more.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 5:33pm On May 19, 2015
Who's the society if not people like you?

Just admit you're as hypocritical as the others which on be all these garnishing undecided
If the wife sleeps with her bro-in-law and apologizes will everything be alright?

Yes or No? You know where to place yourself when you answer that question.
olu4life:

I totally get the drift. Yes, we know our society give men more room to cheat and be forgiven than the other way round.

About that particular thread, felt like responding but didnt. And I stated earlier, our level of forgiving differs, wwhat A accepts, B might condemn if in the same shoe.
I also advised the OP to move on if the husband is yet to apologise and be remorseful. NOTHING CAN BE DONE IF THE HUSBAND REFUSES TO ADMIT HIS FAULT. Thats why I assked some questions earlier to the OP.

Hope its now clear on where I stand on this issue?

Lastly, speaking from the man's angle, dont forget the pressure he might be getting about child ish. BUT DOESNT MEAN HE SHOULD GIVE IN TO THE PRESSURE.
Note my words in capital letter.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 5:37pm On May 19, 2015
smokescreen4:
LOL, It is a man's world God loves them more.
lmao.
They don't sin.
Even the adultery commandment in the bible is not meant for them.

God (the way they want us to believe) must really hate women.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 5:41pm On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
The bible cursed women to suffer wandering p5nis from their husbands? undecided

Part of the consequences is that the man is placed above the woman!

I do not want to argue on this issue. Like smokscreen4 and others, you just decided to pick one side of my view.

If you can't see the other side, just ignore.

Thanks.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 5:43pm On May 19, 2015
Optimall:


Abeg help tell me this course.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by smokescreen4: 5:46pm On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
lmao. They don't sin. Even the adultery commandment in the bible is not meant for them.
God (the way they want us to believe) must really hate women.
Very true.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Kimoni: 5:50pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


The woman is not under much more pressure as you mentioned.

In actual sense, the man is.

A woman is married off to another man who uses her to sustain his lineage.

A man sustains his lineage. Thus he is scared of extinction.


Shoroniyen undecided
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 5:55pm On May 19, 2015
Kimoni:



Shoroniyen undecided

It hurts?
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 5:55pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


Part of the consequences is that the man is placed above the woman!

I do not want to argue on this issue. Like smokscreen4 and others, you just decided to pick one side of my view.

If you can't see the other side, just ignore.

Thanks.
by above you mean he can sin and God won't punish him? Or somethings are not a sin when he does it?

Nice interpretation you have for the bible prophet kaboinc. cheesy

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by OmoAlata1(f): 6:01pm On May 19, 2015
Kaboninc, you are making this thread irritating. I bet if OP is a man stating his wife was sleeping with his younger brother cos she wanted to see if she could get pregnant. You will be telling the husband to run as far from that devilish woman ASAP. but when it is a wife dealing with cheating husband and you are saying "it is man's world" "men are above women" etc

She should not divorce if her husband is truly remorseful. Would you tell a fellow man to stay with a woman, who has had several sexual encounter with his younger brother that he is raising, if she is very remorseful of her behavior because she was looking for pregnancy?? I hate hypocrite with passion. The hypocrisy is this thread is killing me softly. Just like one idiiot was telling me "the success of a marriage falls on the woman ONLY and if it fails, it is all her fault"

Abeg I need panadol

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 6:03pm On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
by above you mean he can sin and God won't punish him? Or somethings are not a sin when he does it?

Nice interpretation you have for the bible prophet kaboinc. cheesy

Lol!

You ladies marvel me most times I must admit. Always have one kine of interpretation for everything.

No wonder you guys keep having emotional heartbreaks every time.

By above it means he should lord over her. Kings and Lords make huge mistakes and they pay dearly for it; with their lives and even with the lives of their generations to come! Sometimes, this mistakes can be avoided only if ego and pride can be kept aside. But you and others have chosen to dwell on the 'it's a man's world'!

Too bad it hurts. But it is the damn truth!
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Kimoni: 6:06pm On May 19, 2015
cococandy:
@kimoni, I don't know why nairalanders are disgustingly hypocritical. undecided undecided undecided
You read some posts and want to puke.
Tufiakwa.


I just tire...I wonder what some people take women for? Objects? Slaves??

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Kimoni: 6:08pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


It hurts?

You are trying to make this thread about you, pls give way for the OP. She needs all the counsel and support she can get.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by mrssho: 6:15pm On May 19, 2015
My advice to OP is if he is remorseful and he is ready to tell you the truth pls forgive him and take him back if not abeg do what you have to do
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 6:19pm On May 19, 2015
OmoAlata1:
Kaboninc, you are making this thread irritating. I bet if OP is a man stating his wife was sleeping with his younger brother cos she wanted to see if she could get pregnant. You will be telling the husband to run as far from that devilish woman ASAP. but when it is a wife dealing with cheating husband and you are saying "it is man's world" "men are above women" etc

She should not divorce if her husband is truly remorseful. Would you tell a fellow man to stay with a woman, who has had several sexual encounter with his younger brother that he is raising, if she is very remorseful of her behavior because she was looking for pregnancy?? I hate hypocrite with passion. The hypocrisy is this thread is killing me softly. Just like one idiiot was telling me "the success of a marriage falls on the woman ONLY and if it fails, it is all her fault"

Abeg I need panadol

You have issues with comprehension I must say. It is obvious you are a woman and certainly, you should think like a woman! (No apologies!) So bring in your emotional laden voice. It is allowed, only to an extent when by then the scales in your eyes would be off.

If the woman should sleep with her husband's brother, she better be wise. 'Good' if the brother can guaranty her security and financial satisfaction. Else, she is on a long thin. And if the man leaves her, I tell you, he has options because potential/possible and prospective ladies are just too many. Forgive me for bringing this...Oshiomole just got wedded to a young beautiful lady who is younger than most of his kids! How certain can you say about the opposite?

You make or seem to claim that there are men who would not stay with a lady who is having sex with the younger brother. Well, your claim is limited to what you know.

In all, our society brought in 'morals' to act as checks and balances and also guide us in our affairs. That why you say it is 'not good' for such things to happen. Also, it also depends on what we want in life. If the lady who opened this thread feels she can find happiness in divorce, so good for her. If she can also live with the husband and acknowledge her sister, good for her. Like someone rightly said, someone who is good today can be so terrible tomorrow and vice versa.

I am not a hypocrite. I tell you how it is because, it is just simply the truth.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 6:21pm On May 19, 2015
Kimoni:


You are trying to make this thread about you, pls give way for the OP. She needs all the counsel and support she can get.

No dear. Am trying to warn her on taking the consequences of advice given to her by people like you.

So, yes, it hurts.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by freecocoa(f): 6:26pm On May 19, 2015
Westendel:


I would have uploaded their watsapp chats here but because I don't want expose his identity, I would rather tell us the content here.

my sister: why don't you wanna send me the 10,000naira?

my husband: I asked you to come over u refused

my sister: I want us to stop this sex of a thing. I feel bad doing dis with you,knowing well that you are my brother in law

my husband: is better I do it with you,than doing it with an asider.what's wrong if you have a child for your sister?


let me stop here don't want to any further. people, what do you make of this conversation?
Ok now I'm confused, how can it be their words against yours with the above?

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by OmoAlata1(f): 6:27pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


You have issues with comprehension I must say. It is obvious you are a woman and certainly, you should think like a woman! (No apologies!) So bring in your emotional laden voice. It is allowed, only to an extent when by then the scales in your eyes would be off.

If the woman should sleep with her husband's brother, she better be wise. 'Good' if the brother can guaranty her security and financial satisfaction. Else, she is on a long thin. And if the man leaves her, I tell you, he has options because potential/possible and prospective ladies are just too many. Forgive me for bringing this...Oshiomole just got wedded to a young beautiful lady who is younger than most of his kids! How certain can you say about the opposite?

You make or seem to claim that there are men who would not stay with a lady who is having sex with the younger brother. Well, your claim is limited to what you know.

In all, our society brought in 'morals' to act as checks and balances and also guide us in our affairs. That why you say it is 'not good' for such things to happen. Also, it also depends on what we want in life. If the lady who opened this thread feels she can find happiness in divorce, so good for her. If she can also live with the husband and acknowledge her sister, good for her. Like someone rightly said, someone who is good today can be so terrible tomorrow and vice versa.

I am not a hypocrite. I tell you how it is because, it is just simply the truth.

Thanks for novel. I feel honored, but you still did not answer my question

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by freecocoa(f): 6:36pm On May 19, 2015
Why is the thread now about how it's a man's world blah blah blah? Abeg we've been hearing that forever, if there's need to keep preaching sermon from the 1500s, a thread should be created for it, stop disturbing us with the nonsense and that would be you, Mr Kaboninc.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by freecocoa(f): 6:38pm On May 19, 2015
OP, the best thing to do is to leave those two alone and move on with your life, I mean, how heartless can a person be? Your sister is actually worse than I thought, the boldness, to swear with her life, kai! I'd rather not have a sister than have her as mine.

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 6:41pm On May 19, 2015
VintageCocktail:
For referring to my mother like that!!!!
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. You are a canker, a sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen conferring with you.
You are putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. Your life is a monumental to stupidity. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. You are a stench, a revulsion., a big suck on a sour lemon. You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into the world. An insensible blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they have done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you.



I am just warming up.....don't mess with joblessness.

Ha na wa o, abeg take am easy grin
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by cococandy(f): 6:46pm On May 19, 2015
You're still not making your point clear.
It is a man's world because the bible permits him to sin and the woman is not?
What's your point?
You said the bible cursed women. In the contest of this scenario,what does that mean?

You're trying so hard to make sense but failing woefully. At least stand by your opinion no matter how disgusting it is?

Are men permitted to sin and women are not by virtue of the 'curse' God placed on women?

I can see why some people leave Christianity(topic for another say sha)

Does men being above women mean that women are logs if wood and should be fine sucking up whatever the man throws their way because God wants it so? Just an emphatic yes would make your point clear (it would be irritating but your point will be clear) or if your answer is no, why bringing up the phrase "it's a man's world in this kind of scenario?'
It's a man's world means what exactly in this scenario? It is ok for him to what he did?




kaboninc:


Lol!

You ladies marvel me most times I must admit. Always have one kine of interpretation for everything.

No wonder you guys keep having emotional heartbreaks every time.

By above it means he should lord over her. Kings and Lords make huge mistakes and they pay dearly for it; with their lives and even with the lives of their generations to come! Sometimes, this mistakes can be avoided only if ego and pride can be kept aside. But you and others have chosen to dwell on the 'it's a man's world'!

Too bad it hurts. But it is the damn truth!

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by Nobody: 6:48pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


Part of the consequences is that the man is placed above the woman!

I do not want to argue on this issue. Like smokscreen4 and others, you just decided to pick one side of my view.

If you can't see the other side, just ignore.

Thanks.

Chaiii diaris Godu ooo, where did you see in the bible or anywhere else that man is above woman.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kaboninc(m): 6:56pm On May 19, 2015
OmoAlata1:


Thanks for novel. I feel honored, but you still did not answer my question

It appears you don't even know what your question is. It is a pity indeed.
Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by kennymotors(m): 6:58pm On May 19, 2015
PLS INFORM YOUR PASTOR AND YOUR PARENT AND HAVE MEETING TO SETTLE THE PROBLEM. LET THEM USE BIBLE TO SWEAR THAT SUCH BARBERIC ACT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by mystiqueDZ(f): 6:58pm On May 19, 2015
I have tried wrapping my head around this but I just can't!!! How and where do you start forgiving the man? My forgiving threshold is super high but honestly this is beyond me cry cry

Westendel if you work,take a break.....move out albeit temporary....cry,throw things,whatever makes you feel better.....then 'rearrange your life mentally' before taking a leap.....
#Bigbearhug

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Re: Please Nairalanders I Need Mature Advice by OmoAlata1(f): 6:59pm On May 19, 2015
kaboninc:


It appears you don't even know what your question is. It is a pity indeed.

I believe it is you who do not comprehend my simple question. it is stated there crystal clear

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