judges judge well,no partiality i beg.

darrytoz:

And that is why am not in the support of post UTME because once a candidate is not subjected to another exam I don't see why such a candidate will choose a school far from his/her location.

I have a friend who came all the way from Plateau state to Abeokuta just because he wanted to study agriculture and FUNAAB has a good reputation in agriculture and in Nigeria there are only 3 universities of agriculture. Hence ,choosing a suitable location is necessary not just because of the distance but also because of what u stand to gain.

pseudonomer:

One is usually notified like at least weeks before the exam. What about a case where one is offered admission and one is required to come the school the following week for clearance?

What about the living conditions of this candidates? Does the school make provisions for were they could pass the night. Tell me if you are asked to come and write another exam will you be leaving on the day of the exam?

Nunushokoto:
I strongly disagree with that because with the corruption in the aspect of conducting utme exam,post utme is the only way to make sure admission is given to those who deserve it. Unlike utme exam where runs are given to students,there is nothing of such in post utme exam.

Don't be too sure, as far as Nigeria is concern it happens both in utme and post utme.

Nunushokoto:
I strongly disagree with that because with the corruption in the aspect of conducting utme exam,post utme is the only way to make sure admission is given to those who deserve it. Unlike utme exam where runs are given to students,there is nothing of such in post utme exam.

post utme is the only way to make sure admission is given to those who deserve it? Which university will admit candidates that did not meet Jamb cut off mark, even though they had great scores in Post UTME. A very good example is Babcock University that asked candidated that pass its post utme and whose name are in its admission list but fail to meet jamb's cut off mark not to bother paying acceptance fee. What can you say to this?

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darrytoz:

What about the living conditions of this candidates? Does the school make provisions for were they could pass the night. Tell me if you are asked to come and write another exam will you be leaving on the day of the exam?

There is a always private apartments(hotels) to spend the night.

Ayima:
Don't be too sure, as far as Nigeria is concern it happens both in utme and post utme.

It's usually unlikely, the case is always low, unlike the JAMB UTME that is rampant. Unless if the institution has lost her credibility for exams.

Nunushokoto:
I have a friend who came all the way from Plateau state to Abeokuta just because he wanted to study agriculture and FUNAAB has a good reputation in agriculture and in Nigeria there are only 3 universities of agriculture. Hence ,choosing a suitable location is necessary not just because of the distance but also because of what u stand to gain.

He has passed the only exam that has qualified him to be admitted. But he was subjected to another exam. Can't his dream of studying in that school be dashed by writing post UTME.

abiala2015:
judges judge well,no partiality i beg.

they will be impartial…… as always.

Audience can ask questions if any.

darrytoz:

Based on the example you sited. If a candidate is admitted without going for post UTME such a candidate will have enough time to plan ahead of the journey unlike going for an exam were he/she knows not his/her faith.

Every university notifies it's aspirants at least a week before their post utme exam and besides,every aspirant should be ready at any time for the exam.

pseudonomer:


The chance of it being "vulnerable and bastardized" in your language is low, which is unlikely because it is conducted by the school herself. The exam is usually being conducted like the normal exam.

do I need to enlighten u of how students see Post UTME questions before exam day? Do I need to remind you of how mercenaries seat unbehalf of students in post utme exams? Post utme is no saint! It is only an avenue for our tertiary institution to make money.

sammyscholar:
post utme is the only way to make sure admission is given to those who deserve it? Which university will admit candidates that did not meet Jamb cut off mark, even though they had great scores in Post UTME. A very good example is Babcock University that asked candidated that pass its post utme and whose name are in its admission list but fail to meet jamb's cut off mark not to bother paying acceptance fee. What can you say to this?

I guess this should answer your question, if one really deserves admission into the institution, one must have passed the JAMB UTME, but we both know most candidates employ unethical means to pass the exam. So the Post-UTME was introduced to sieve the qualified candidates from those who cheated. It will be hard for most candidates to cheat in the JAMB UTME and Post-UTME too. And most of the time, those that cheated are being "caught" in the post-UTME by not being able to pass the post-UTME.

From an audience: Wah bou to cancel Jamb?? Post utme is fine! Jamb only is worst! One is okay! It shouldn't be two exams! Two is much!

pseudonomer:

There is a always private apartments(hotels) to spend the night.

Tell me is it all the tertiary institutions in NIgeria that make provisions for this?

darrytoz:

What about the living conditions of this candidates? Does the school make provisions for were they could pass the night. Tell me if you are asked to come and write another exam will you be leaving on the day of the exam?

Some schools make provision ,students of the school who live off campus also makes provision for aspirants.

If at all the optometric that work on my eyes make no mistake in the cause of treating it that means you are more or less cheetah.
You said it urself that ur stance is ibadanpoly yet you against instead of supporting the motion.

Audience any questions? If any, please ask

Ayima:
Don't be too sure, as far as Nigeria is concern it happens both in utme and post utme.

Tell me how possible it is to cheat in a computer based exam where its just u and your computer system.

This debate is all about malpractices! And it can only be minimized through the use of CBT...

sammyscholar:
do I need to enlighten u of how students see Post UTME questions before exam day? Do I need to remind you of how mercenaries seat unbehalf of students in post utme exams? Post utme is no saint! It is only an avenue for our tertiary institution to make money.

Don't just say that, give me a proof. No examination that is 100% free of cheating. But the chance of cheating is usually low in a well-structured exam. Unlike JAMB-UTME, which of course we all know that cheating is a norm.

BIDOO:
If at all the optometric that work on my eyes make no mistake in the cause of treating it that means you are more or less cheetah.
You said it urself that ur stance is ibadanpoly yet you against instead of supporting the motion.

Well thought am the only one seeing. That..

sammyscholar:
post utme is the only way to make sure admission is given to those who deserve it? Which university will admit candidates that did not meet Jamb cut off mark, even though they had great scores in Post UTME. A very good example is Babcock University that asked candidated that pass its post utme and whose name are in its admission list but fail to meet jamb's cut off mark not to bother paying acceptance fee. What can you say to this?

The fault is to jamb because before u can write post utme it means u have met the schools cutoff mark and besides Babcock is a private university .

Nunushokoto:
Tell me how possible it is to cheat in a computer based exam where its just u and your computer system.

Don't be too sure.. Those programs were written by somebody or a set of people

Debaters, rebuttal has officially ended.

Nunushokoto:
Tell me how possible it is to cheat in a computer based exam where its just u and your computer system.

Bro forget...The actual score can be edited by the oga at the top. Few know what I mean

Debaters, should answer questions asked by audience………
comments or questions from audience are welcome.

darrytoz:

Tell me is it all the tertiary institutions in NIgeria that make provisions for this?

I am not even of institutions, but is there a town in Nigeria without an hotel where one can lodge?

darrytoz:

He has passed the only exam that has qualified him to be admitted. But he was subjected to another exam. Can't his dream of studying in that school be dashed by writing post UTME.

It can't because if u really want something u will prepare hard for it.

pseudonomer:


I am not even of institutions, but is there a town in Nigeria without an hotel where one can lodge?

Consider the students financial status

Well my question goes to the opposing side. Don't you guys think that a student that can pass utme should be able to pass post utme too? if yes why and if no why not?

Boc4real:
Bro forget...The actual score can be edited by the oga at the top. Few know what I mean

Pls get this right. I meant cheating on the part of the candidate no editing of result by the ''ogas at the top''