papindinho:
A note of correction to both schools.

I think one of the judges in one of the just concluded rounds mentioned the need to write the full meaning of acronyms. Pseudonomer gave one full meaning i.e. Post-UTME and shunned the rest. The others didn't even blink at it.

This forum is accessed by many foreigners who are oblivious of JAMB, SSCE, et al..... It's advisable you take note of that.

I did. And I even took my time to explain each acronym. I cannot write them in full everywhere when there is limit to words we must use. Re-read my essay.

K

pseudonomer:
School: FUNAAB
Every universities has their own standards , the Post-UTME can be a way for some universities to test their prospective students if they will be fit enough to survive the school workload. For example, JAMB exempt some science students from taking Mathematics in their UTME, Which is always part of their workload in the first year, the post-UTME is another test if the prospective candidate have the required knowledge of Mathematics to survive in the school.


Another case is the Post-UME screening examination conducted by the University of Education, Ikere-Ekiti (TUNEDIK), particularly in essay writing, exposed inadequacies in most of the candidates. A total of 500 candidates were randomly selected for this study from five departments of the three foundation faculties of education, science and information technology and arts, social and management sciences. 200 out of the 500 candidates (40%) scored 200 marks and above in JAMB, 125 candidates (25%) scored 190-199, also 125 candidates (25%) again scored 180-189 and 50 candidates (10%) scored 170-179 in JAMB. Ironically, only 87 out of the 200 candidates (43.5%), who scored 200 and above in JAMB, passed the Post-UME essay while the remaining 113 candidates (56.5%) scored below 40%. Without screening, candidates who scored 200 marks and above in JAMB would have been automatically admitted on merit, whereas many of those candidates in the score ranges of 190-199 and 180-189 did better in the Post-UME essay.

@bolded should be something like "every university has its own standard(s)" I think.

By the way, both schools did well. Citing cases like that gives you a PLUS and I didn't expect the second speaker to repeat what the first speaker had said (FUNAAB). That was like two or more paragraphs.

sammyscholar:
I did. And I even took my time to explain each acronym. I cannot write them in full everywhere when there is limit to words we must use. Re-read my essay.

yea... I saw that of JAMB, UME and that was all I think, whereas you used more than three acronyms.

I generalised the comment which made it seem like you didn't mention all the necessities.

Gracias.

sammyscholar:
I did. And I even took my time to explain each acronym. I cannot write them in full everywhere when there is limit to words we must use. Re-read my essay.

word count things, I understand though.

Nigerian tertiary institutions, today,
remained the most stressful, rigorous, and most tortures to gain admission into.

At the bolded, I think you meant "most tortured".... Typo tns

Mikelooh2:


Good day coorinator, please how do i register my school for nairaland debate?

man, it's very easy. There are usually time frame set aside for reps of different school to register. Unfortunately, for this edition, that time frame is long gone as you can see - the debate has already begun. Stick your head out for next edition . . . Visit Nairaland Interschool Debate Planning Thread for further queries, suggestions, questions or comments. Thanks. Happy Sunday.

sammyscholar:
thanks!

Greatest polytes

May the better school win

pseudonomer:
School: FUNAAB

The Post-UTME test must stay. The Post Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination test was introduced in 2005 to combat the flaws of JAMB in conducting an entrance examination into the tertiary-level institutions. Since the establishment of JAMB UME, some students cheated their way to the pass JAMB UTME, so the post-UTME is a way to sieve qualified candidates from those who cheated to pass.

Every universities has their own standards, the Post-UTME can be a way for some universities to test their prospective students if they will be fit enough to survive the school workload. For example, JAMB exempt some science students from taking Mathematics in their UTME, Which is always part of their workload in the first year, the post-UTME is another test if the prospective candidate have the required knowledge of Mathematics to survive in the school.

Some students employ unethical means to pass the JAMB UTME. This point alone is the main the reason for the post-UTME test. For a example, a female candidate applied to study economics in University of Ibadan (UI) with excellent results in School Certificate Examination and Joint Admission Matriculation Board (JAMB)’s examination. Specifically, the female potential student of Economics paraded eight distinctions (A1) in eight subjects at the school certificate level and 284 marks in JAMB conducted examination – Fantastic results combination that attracted UI to invite her for “interaction”, UI’s model of Post University Matriculation Examination (UME) test. At the post UME interaction, the panel members were so “impressed” with her supposed results, that they had almost asked her to take a bow and go until someone from the panel, probably out of curiosity, posted a simple question to her. Young lady, with your results, you are definitely going to lead the class, but before you go, as a prospective economics student, what is GDP? Dazed. The lady began to fidget, scratching her head as she started sweating. Initially, some of the panel members thought she was intimidated by the presence of some professors, thereby, giving her time to relax. But, alas, the candidate bungled as she later confessed that someone wrote the exams for her. In other words, the results were not hers. However, this mumbo-jumbo was only uncovered at the post UME interaction!
If that was a ludicrous case in the faculty of the Social Sciences, a similar mendacious situation occurred during the Post-UME test in the Faculty of Arts, in which a candidate with equally considered “good results” who wanted to study English could not spell “island, tomorrow and occasion.” Yet, this was a candidate with distinctions and 275 marks in JAMB’s examination. These two cases are just illustrations of the beauty of post-UME interaction, an integrity check in the university admission process.

Another case is the Post-UME screening examination conducted by the University of Education, Ikere-Ekiti (TUNEDIK), particularly in essay writing, exposed inadequacies in most of the candidates. A total of 500 candidates were randomly selected for this study from five departments of the three foundation faculties of education, science and information technology and arts, social and management sciences. 200 out of the 500 candidates (40%) scored 200 marks and above in JAMB, 125 candidates (25%) scored 190-199, also 125 candidates (25%) again scored 180-189 and 50 candidates (10%) scored 170-179 in JAMB. Ironically, only 87 out of the 200 candidates (43.5%), who scored 200 and above in JAMB, passed the Post-UME essay while the remaining 113 candidates (56.5%) scored below 40%. Without screening, candidates who scored 200 marks and above in JAMB would have been automatically admitted on merit, whereas many of those candidates in the score ranges of 190-199 and 180-189 did better in the Post-UME essay.

It is so clear to see that the tertiary institutions cannot rely on JAMB UTME alone to admit students into their institutions. Is two exams too much to sieve qualified candidates from those who used illegal means to pass the exam?

References:

Ui.edu.ng/postume
digitalcommons.unl.edu/libphilprac/352

Please, we need references and links to your stories about the girl who was ask what GDP means.

Secondly, your partner is also presenting the same points about the girl asked what GDP is, it will be advisable to bring up different instances with convincing facts rather than repeating same stories.

Furthermore, acronyms should be well explained for the purpose of clarity as someone stated above.

Well its a good challenge where intellectuals express facts and points with great prowess and am delighted that Nairaland is providing a platform for this.

Good luck to you all debaters.

papindinho:


word count things, I understand though.

Nigerian tertiary institutions, today,
remained the most stressful, rigorous, and most tortures to gain admission into.
o
At the bolded, I think you meant "most tortured".... Typo tns

Or you mean "most torturous"

papindinho:


word count things, I understand though.

Nigerian tertiary institutions, today,
remained the most stressful, rigorous, and most tortures to gain admission into.

At the bolded, I think you meant "most tortured".... Typo tns

not typo. I used it as adjective.

[quote author=Miscellaneous post=34273486][/quote] Please the result! Happy Sunday

Points stated by the debaters in support of Post-UTME (Post university tertiary matriculation examination) in my opinion are not really convincing reasons:

1)They claim JAMB (Joint admission and matriculation board) has been compromised because of irregularities happening during exams, like malpractices. Now, the so called post UTME which is now mandatory for an applicant to write has been bastardized with gross nepotism, as such applicants with good grades or points are not given admission or courses they applied for even if they score good grades after the so called post JAMB.

2)CBT has now been introduced by JAMB to checkmate irregularities. Will I be right to ask the debaters in support of post JAMB to advocate for total cancellation of Post-JAMB? Since malpractice was minimal in 2015 JAMB.

3)The amount of money charged for post JAMB is outrageous because an applicant will buy form for JAMB and pay for post JAMB after getting the cutoff marks/ scores. Don't you think its unethical?

I will be delighted with immense pleasure if you can rebut my reasons/ opinion.

Thank you

Kutunban:


Please, we need references and links to your stories about the girl who was ask what GDP means.

Secondly, your partner is also presenting the same points about the girl asked what GDP is, it will be advisable to bring up different instances with convincing facts rather than repeating same stories.

Furthermore, acronyms should be well explained for the purpose of clarity as someone stated above.

Well its a good challenge where intellectuals express facts and points with great prowess and am delighted that Nairaland is providing a platform for this.

Good luck to you all debaters.

You should have checked the reference. http://www.ui.edu.ng/postume

seriously? I missed Ds?......
Why yesterday Na......


Greatest funaabites!!!!

Great presentation by both parties. would have loved to contribute but the debate is over. nevertheless, I believe that post utme is a quality control to ascertain if students really merited their score. Its more transparent because the supervision is done right under the nose of competent supervisors unlike utme that many students run to the Creek to take because the supervisors can easily be influenced.

Compiling results........

johncasey1:
Or you mean "most torturous"

nice idea but I think most tortured best suits the context...


@Sammyscholar: I don't think there is such adjective as "most tortures", the closest to the one used in the context is the one cited above by johncasey1.

Thanks John.

papindinho:
nice idea but I think most tortured best suits the context...


@Sammyscholar: I don't think there is such adjective as "most tortures", the closest to the one used in the context is the one cited above by johncasey1.

Thanks John.

ok. Thanks. Oga papy

Miscellaneous:


man, it's very easy. There are usually time frame set aside for reps of different school to register. Unfortunately, for this edition, that time frame is long gone as you can see - the debate has already begun. Stick your head out for next edition . . . Visit Nairaland Interschool Debate Planning Thread for further queries, suggestions, questions or comments. Thanks. Happy Sunday.

Guess you answered my question very well, can i have the link to the Nairaland Interschool Debate Planning Thread?
Happy sunday!

subbieD:
seriously? I missed Ds?...... Why yesterday Na......

Greatest funaabites!!!!

of cos u missed

subbieD:
seriously? I missed Ds?...... Why yesterday Na......

Greatest funaabites!!!!

of cos u missed

johncasey1:
of cos u missed

Dnt mind me jare,No light ni

We are so sorry for the delay in the result. So many obstacles.......

Fynestboi:
We are so sorry for the delay in the result. So many obstacles.......

Ook,can we have the result now

Before I put up the score.

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subbieD:




Ook,can we have the result now

Lol relax ma.

Sammyscholar
1. Presentation - 4.5

2. Logic of arguments 3

3. Strenght of facts, examples, cases. - 2

4. Persuasiven - 3
5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject - 3.5
TOTAL.... 16




Darrytoz
1. Presentation - 4

2. Logic of arguments 3

3. Strenght of facts, examples, cases. - 2

4. Persuasiven - 2.5
5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject - 3.5
TOTAL.... 15


Psuedoomer
1. Presentation - 4.5

2. Logic of arguments 3

3. Strenght of facts, examples, cases. - 4

4. Persuasiven - 3
5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject - 3

TOTAL: 17.5

Nunushokoto
1. Presentation - 2

2. Logic of arguments 2.5

3. Strenght of facts, examples, cases. - 3

4. Persuasiven - 2.5
5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject - 3

TOTAL. 13




TOTAL
IBADANPOLY.... 31
FUNAAB ... 30.5

JUDGE TWO.
Results
Sammyscholar
1. 4
2. 4
3. 3.5
4. 3.5
5. 3.5

TOTAL..... 18.5

Darrytoz
1. 4
2. 3.5
3. 4
4. 3
5. 4
TOTAL..... 18.5

Pseudonomer
1. 4
2. 3
3. 3.5
4. 3.5
5. 4
TOTAL... 18

Nunushokoto
1. 3.5
2. 4
3. 3
4. 4
5.3

TOTAL..., 17.5



TOTAL...

IBADANPOLY.... 37
FUNAAB.. 35.5

Mikelooh2:


Good day coorinator, please how do i register my school for nairaland debate?

Registration is over for now. Kindly check back next year.

[size=18pt]Grand Total

IBADAN POLY =68
FUNAAB.... 66

I hereby pronounce IBADANPOLY as the winner.[/size]