malvisguy212:
what kind of evidence do you want? Is it possible to proved God does not exist?

udatso:

Salamualaykum. I am glad you read that thread all through. He creates a thread and after he has been answered, he will create another claiming he hasn't been answered. I have realised that the script of a movie "megamind" is what's going on between Muslims and Islamophobe. They do bad, and the Muslims always come around to bust them.

malvisguy212:
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I do not say forgiveness is not the nature of God,

I say IGNORING OF LITTLE SIN IS NOT AMONG THE NATURE OF GOD. [/size]

Pls read that nonsense above once more...

Your first sentence says "Forgiveness [size=16pt] IS [/size] in the nature of God"

Then, the second one says "it's NOT in the nature of God to ignore/forgive even LITTLE sins"

Abeg, which school did you attend??

Go back and claim all your fees!

Meet me at the other thread let discuss this.

9jaforlife:

Pls read that nonsense above once more...

Abeg, which school did you attend??

Go back and claim all your fees! r]

malvisguy212:


Of the three monotheistic religions, only
one teaches that the One God is revealed in Three Persons: Christianity. The other two agree that God is One and is revealed as One Person.
However, as I contemplate the universe,
is it possible that the Creator put His
fingerprints on the universe so we can
know what kind of God He is? The answer is yes. The universe, though it is one, is also three-dimensional.

plaetton:


Until they Accept?

Accept in light of what evidence?

How is God generally Known to exist, and to whom? Sunday school children?

You should be arrested for your ignorant or deliberately dishonest misuse of words.

dalaman:


Many people believe in many Gods. Please just show clearly that the universe was created by a single entity as opposed to many entities .

9jaforlife:


Pls read that nonsense above once more...

Your first sentence says "Forgiveness [size=16pt] IS [/size] in the nature of God"

Then, the second one says "it's NOT in the nature of God to ignore/forgive even LITTLE sins"

Abeg, which school did you attend??

Go back and claim all your fees!




To listen to more of this cow dung? Bigotry is a disease!!

UyiIredia:


Many Gods violate Occam's razor, besides it could create the possibility of conflict of interest which would make God contradict Himself.

Naital:


@bold.

Wrong!

There are more than three dimensions in the observable universe.

dalaman:

You still haven't made a very clear case for the universe being the product of a single entity as opposed to many different entities all working together to achieve a common goal as we humans do.

malvisguy212:
read the op. Your question was adress by the op.

dalaman:


Just provide incontrovertible evidence that only one God created the universe as opposed to many God. Stop speaking long English.

malvisguy212:
from the op:
Polytheism is a belief that multiple gods
created the universe. Even though this
could be true, the universe is one. In
fact, the word "uni-means one." There is
only one universe and the entire
universe is subject to the same laws and
is connected to the whole. Therefore, it is more likely that only One Being created the one universe.

malvisguy212:
[s] you still did not understand it, do you? Do you ask for forgiveness after death or before death? I remember one proverb that say "it is too late to cry when the head is cut off"

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
avoid the great (things) which ye are
forbidden, We will remit from you
your evil deeds and make you enter at
a noble gate.

This verse was talking about after life,judgment is there forgiveness after you died? I need quranic verse to support your answer. [/s]

malvisguy212:
I know of 3 dimensions of time and space. If you have any idea pleased shere, I am ready to learn.

malvisguy212:
and Jesus say to her " BE IT UNTO YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FAITH"
Do you faith that this thing will happened?

johnydon22:


Is it possible to prove a flying blue pink circle square rabbit doesn't exist?


That which has not been proven cannot be disproved because there absolutely is nothing to disprove.

Naital:


Oh yes, I'd gladly share... in as simple terms as I can conjure.

It's good to know you have an idea of what the space - time fabric is. However, space - time in the simplest form is not 3 - dimensional, it's 4 (the three traditional planes x, y, z & time). Phenomena such as quantum entanglement can only be understood when time is seen at par with the other dimensions. This may appear counter intuitive, but experiments after experiments have proven this to be correct.

As a matter of fact, the String Theory which was developed in the 1990s predict even more dimensions (which are so far yet to be experimentally proven). The LHC experiments which were started again yesterday deep under the France/Swiss border are part of efforts to understand more of this subject.

When I peer through my telescope at Night, am much so stunned by how tiny we are even in the observable universe. The stuffs out there are not limited to three dimensions. (By the way I'm one of those very few Nigerians who care enough about understanding the universe to invest personal $$$ in telescopes).

I hope my post makes *some sense to you.

malvisguy212:
am not a scientist. I read Einstein equation of general relativity which include space and time .Einstein did not say anything about space having more than 3 dimension, he only say space has 3 dimension and Time interwoven the 3 dimension. It was when he expended it and he added a matter that an ordinary eye can not see.

Concerning string theory, as long as it has not be proven, no need to bring it up.

Naital:


I thought you said you are open to learning.

Do your research properly, if you will. Perhaps you'll get a better grasp of what your interwoven space - time fabric is. I doubt how much you know of the theories you quote, like you said "you are not a scientist"; but I am.

No need for replies, you'll get no more from me.

Cheers!

dalaman:


Oscam razor is just a postulation and doesn't apply in many cases. The greatest structures and systems we have around us were created by different men without conflict of interest. Besides their could be hierarchy among the Gods. You still haven't made a very clear case for the universe being the product of a single entity as opposed to many different entities all working together to achieve a common goal as we humans do.

UyiIredia:


Wrong. In numerous examples where scientific explanations has replaced religious superstitions on various phenomena (eg thunder, death of sickle-cellers etc) Occam's razor has been justified. There can't be a hierarchy where Gods still remain God, to be God you must be subject to no one else as an all-powerful being. However there can be a hierarchy of lesser gods with or without God.

If you find it had to believe an obvious fact, in this case, God being generally understood as the universe's Creator your ability to adequately comprehend arguments should be doubted.

dalaman:


Oscam razor alone wasn't used to replace religious superstitions but better and demonstrable knowledge. You are giving me YOUR OWN definition of God and trying to make it binding. God cam simply refer to supreme being or beings. Many people believe in supreme powerful Gods that came together to create the universe. You are yet to provide evidence to show that the universe was created by only one God. You are only stating it.

dalaman:

God isn't universally understood to be the universe's Creator. Many others believe that many powerful Gods created the universe. You are yet to counter that with incontrovertible evidence. You are only speaking English.

malvisguy212:
what kind of evidence do you want? Is it possible to proved God does not exist?

malvisguy212:
from the op:
Polytheism is a belief that multiple gods
created the universe. Even though this
could be true, the universe is one. In
fact, the word "uni-means one." There is
only one universe and the entire
universe is subject to the same laws and
is connected to the whole. Therefore, it is more likely that only One Being created the one universe.

UyiIredia:


I didn't say Occam's razor replace superstitions. I said Occam's razor was justified by their replacement_with better knowledge as you say. The definition of God I give is present in lots of dictionaries, did you conveniently forget that ?

Name one religion in which Gods (by which I understand many omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent beings) made the universe.

He is in and Christianity, Islam and Judaism which together constitute at least half of the world's population. Hinduism also involves a belief in a Creator God (or Brahman). I think you need to read up on so-called polytheistic religions. Many of them for example Ifa religion (which I'm familiar with) actually believe in a SINGLE Creator God who acts through lesser deities.

malvisguy212:
good, you adress the first claimed of agnostics. You know what I notice in your post? You want to worship a God who can have a personal relationship with you, and can communicate with you the way you choose. You see my friends, in the bible we read how the prophet pray and the next verse will tell you God answer there prayer and revealed himself to them, the truth of the matter is that the God did not just straight away answer there prayer, one thing you should know is that the bible was not written as a STORY book, it was written on how human can have personal relationship with God, bible say adam HEARED the footsteps of God in the garden, what does this mean? It mean God and man were very close to each other before the fall. This is what God want from us, we should know HIM.

I don't have explanation of what happened before God began creation, but what I do know is that God is a spirit(john 4:24) spirit don't play by the rule or time of human . when you read the claimed of other gods, you will notice there claimed is similar but the different is there nature. This is not a coincidence.

dalaman:


Hinduism. Brahma is a 3 in one God. other Gods are Vishnu and Shiva, whom are lesser Gods Brahma uses.

dalaman:

It is not by numbers, we don't need to dwell on how many but on how true. The God concepts by be monotheistic but they are all different concepts. A single creator that acts through lesser deities still means they all came together and created, some polytheistic religions believe in one Big God and other smaller Gods that carry out the duty of the bigger God.

UyiIredia:


Yeah, just like Christianity and yet Brahma is the Creator God.





No, a single Creator God means all the lesser deities owe their existence to God and are subject to His will. You ignore that and foolishly wave aside the importance of numbers to my point that God is generally understood as A Creator God.

mustymatic:

The people who wrote the Bible neva met, seen, or
talked to Jesus? Who are Matthew, Luke, Paul?
Paul who? Matthew who? they don't even kno their
Bible had anonymous writers wit no surname. they
record "according to" even in d modern world it'll
not be accepted, only Christians. . ... different
versions, who wud follow that for God sake?

dalaman:


A big God using smaller Gods to create means , many entities created,(Like the Hindus believe) you are yet to show that only single entity like created the universe. By the way, the bible tells us how it's God supposedly created the universe, same with the Koran. Science has shown that the creation account in the bible for example is false. Christians now say it is an allegory. If the creation account in the bible is false why should any body believe anything else it says? Or accept that the God it talks about created the universe when we have him lying about how the universe came about in the bible?