AbuMikey:
10+ pages gone, and its still the Hazard shii.

But, una nor dey tire?

Chai!

Abu, talk true, if to say Hazard dey Madrid or Barca since 2012 instead of Chelsea, hin go don win UCL or not??

raumdeuter:


Being a grade A team depends on how you are faring in the elite CL competition in recent seasons

Arsenal has only ever made 1 CL final and 1 semi finals, So how does that make one a grade A team.

AS Monaco too was in Pot 1 in the link you showed, So what does that mean?

Ur friend Debroslink said Chelsea is a grade A (like Barca nd Madrd) team in Europe..
buh u are saying otherwise.

hensben:
you didn't answer my last question; nedved pulled out how many goals and assist the year he won it?

Nedved led his team to a CL final and posted a MOTM performance in the semi finals vs Real Madrid, Many believed it was his absence that made Juve lose the final

He also led Czech republic to a blistering Euro 2004 qualifying series where they even topped Holland in the groups

Which of these apply to Ikedia Hazard?

jimmy4x:

Ur friend Debroslink said Chelsea is a grade A (like Barca nd Madrd) team in Europe..
buh u are saying otherwise.

Chelsea is currently a Grade A team in Europe. They are one of the top 5 favourites for the CL made several semis and 2 finals

hensben:
before ibra how many WC did sweden win? before any team win a major trophy they must be good every area of the pitch and a sound coach too that's why it's a team sport.. football is the perfect description of that adage which says ' a tree can not make a forest'.

How many WC did Ukraine win for Sheva to win Ballon D or?

If Ibra cannot lead Sweden to a world cup How about leading his numerous teams to a CL finals. He has played in at least 6 clubs now

If you claim you come from a poor country how about showing your stuff at clubside level

raumdeuter:


Chelsea is currently a Grade A team in Europe. They are one of the top 5 favourites for the CL made several semis and 2 finals

So, by ur own standards sir, is Chelsea fc better, richer, more successful dan Barca or Madrid??

raumdeuter:


Being a grade A team depends on how you are faring in the elite CL competition in recent seasons

Arsenal has only ever made 1 CL final and 1 semi finals, So how does that make one a grade A team.

AS Monaco too was in Pot 1 in the link you showed, So what does that mean?

it means that during thierry henry time at arsenal they were a grade A team..if for example barca start performing below expectation for good 3 seasons they will be demoted just like ac milan now(i.e, no huge budget, no quality players, no european game) thats the rule of the game, no permanent grade A team as you think, Ac milan only have history now but they are no longer a grade A team... you are mistaking history with grade A team( that's, history is permanent unlike club rating/grade) lol.

jimmy4x:



Abu, talk true, if to say Hazard dey Madrid or Barca since 2012 instead of Chelsea, hin go don win UCL or not??

Definitely na, Spain na Home of Champions, remember?

hensben:
it means that during thierry henry time at arsenal they were a grade A team..if for example barca start performing below expectation for good 3 seasons they will be demoted just like ac milan now(i.e, no huge budget, no quality players, no european game) thats the rule of the game, no permanent grade A team as you thought, Ac milan only have history now but they are no longer a grade A team... you are mistaking history with grade A team( that's history is permanent unlike club rating) lol.

How did Arsenal become a Grade A team explain pls? They made one final never made a semi during Henry's time. So how did they become a grade A team

This season Porto was in Port A same with Benfica, Are they Grade A teams??

AbuMikey:


Definitely na, Spain na Home of Champions, remember?

God bless you o, I no kon understand why Debroslink, Raumdeuter nd ds Arsenal fan A40 want make ONLY Hazard win UCL for Chelsea wey never win am more dan once since 1905, wen pple like Suarez, Aguero, Henry, Van persie nd Bale no win with their EPL clubs??
Shey dt kind talk follow at all??
Debroslink and Raumdeuter, why do u expect Hazard to singlehandedly win the UCL for Chelsea when Suarez, Robben, Henry nd Bale didn't win it for their EPL clubs nd u still rate dem high.

raumdeuter:


How many WC did Ukraine win for Sheva to win Ballon D or?

If Ibra cannot lead Sweden to a world cup How about leading his numerous teams to a CL finals. He has played in at least 6 clubs now

If you claim you come from a poor country how about showing your stuff at clubside level

ibra loyalty to a club let him down why? he switches club like a prostitute or you mean to say since he left inter or barca they have been winning ucl consistently.

jimmy4x:

So, by ur own standards sir, is Chelsea fc better, richer, more successful dan Barca or Madrid??

Raumdeuter sir, reply me.

jimmy4x:

So, by ur own standards sir, is Chelsea fc better, richer, more successful dan Barca or Madrid??

WHat is the purpose of this question for Christ sake. Must a team be richer and more succesful than Barca or Madrid to be a Grade A team?

Me: Otedola is a rich man

Jimmy: Is he richer than Dangote or Bill Gates?

You now see the reason why you support Chelsea?

raumdeuter:


WHat is the purpose of this question for Christ sake. Must a team be richer and more succesful than Barca or Madrid to be a Grade A team?

Ok, look at it this way, Madrid has won a record 10 UCL trophy, Barca has won more than 3 too, Chelsea has won only 1 before Hazard came, do u seriously think if Hazard ihas been a Madrid or Barca player, he wouldn't have won with them??
or if Suarez nd Bale are still in England, they wud win it with Liverpool nd Spurs wey dey struggle with top 4 ?

hensben:
ibra loyalty to a club let him down why? he switches club like a prostitute or you mean to say since he left inter or barca they have been winning ucl consistently.

Ibra has been to 6 top clubs and hasnt made a single final. Actually he has only scored 3 goals in CL knockout stage in a career of over 1 decade.

if there is a wasteman in football Ibra is it

jimmy4x:

Ok, look at it this way, Madrid has won a record 10 UCL trophy, Barca has won more than 3 too, Chelsea has won only 1 before Hazard came, do u seriously think if Hazard ihas been a Madrid or Barca player, he wouldn't have won with them??
or if Suarez nd Bale are still in England, they wud win it with Liverpool nd Spurs wey dey struggle with top 4 ?

Before last yr Madrid didnt win it for 12 yrs.

If Hazard was a Barca or Madrid player he would either be benched, sold or they would have taught him how to play sensible football not senseless dribbling without focus before they can win.

raumdeuter:


How did Arsenal become a Grade A team explain pls? They made one final never made a semi during Henry's time. So how did they become a grade A team

This season Porto was in Port A same with Benfica, Are they Grade A teams??

yes they are this season but for grade A chairman dey inside remember, na one team must win every trophy at the end abi you don see tournament wey two clubs win same season..lol
Rating is temporary but HISTORY is permanent

hensben:
yes they are this season but for grade A chairman dey inside remember, na one team must win every trophy at the end abi you don see tournament wey two clubs win same season..lol
Rating is temporary but HISTORY is permanent

SO whats your point exactly? How was Arsenal a Grade A team when Henry was there? A team that never made CL semi finals.

raumdeuter:


Before last yr Madrid didnt win it for 12 yrs.

If Hazard was a Barca or Madrid player he would either be benched, sold or they would have taught him how to play sensible football not senseless dribbling without focus before they can win.

How many assist and goals does iniesta has so far in his career? since dribbling/driving force nor matter for the game again as you claim. i dey wait

raumdeuter:


Before last yr Madrid didnt win it for 12 yrs.

If Hazard was a Barca or Madrid player he would either be benched or they would have taught him how to play sensible football not senseless dribbling without focus before they can win.

Even if he is sitting on the bench after the huge transfer fee they would have paid to get him, wud he still have won it with Madrid or not?? even Isco, Benzema, Jese were UCL winner last year
and if eventually he joins Madrid next season, are u saying he will be benched??

From this arguments, i have learnt that: if u are becoming successful, you will have more haters than u can ever imagine , but seriously if this continues, i wonder how our thread ll b b4 pre season start

raumdeuter:


SO whats your point exactly? How was Arsenal a Grade A team when Henry was there? A team that never made CL semi finals.

when henry was there arsenal made ucl final oga..na wa o.lol

hensben:
How many assist and goals does iniesta has so far in his career? since dribbling/driving force nor matter for the game again as you claim. i dey wait

This season alone in the CL Iniesta despite being old has more assists than Hazard

hensben:
when henry was there arsenal made ucl final oga..na wa o.lol

The link you brought was as at 2004, Then Arsenal has never made a semi finals

Arsenal before Henry, during Henry nor After Henry were never a Grade A team

jimmy4x:

Even if he is sitting on the bench after the huge transfer fee they would have paid to get him, wud he still have won it with Madrid or not?? even Isco, Benzema, Jese were UCL winner last year
and if eventually he joins Madrid next season, are u saying he will be benched??

Hazard can never sit on the bench considering the money they will use to sign him...he will be a perfect replacement for iniesta, hazard can play AMF as well, iniesta don dey decline.

jimmy4x:

Even if he is sitting on the bench after the huge transfer fee they would have paid to get him, wud he still have won it with Madrid or not?? even Isco, Benzema, Jese were UCL winner last year
and if eventually he joins Madrid next season, are u saying he will be benched??

If Hazard joins them its either he changes his game reduce senseless dribbles or bench and shipped out

C. Ronaldo when he just joined Man ure used to just dribble for fun until he refined his game, reduced the senseless Hazard-like dribbles and became a legend

hensben:
Hazard can never sit on the bench considering the money they will use to sign him...he will be a perfect replacement for iniesta, hazard can play AMF as well, iniesta don dey decline.

Then Hazard would need to refine his game or would be benched.

How much was Kaka bought or how much was Ibra bought? DIdnt they bench them?

How much was Di Maria bought? DIdnt they bench him? Big clubs would bench anyone regardless of price

hensben:
when henry was there arsenal made ucl final oga..na wa o.lol

So you didnt know Arsenal made the UCL final when Henry was there?

raumdeuter:


If Hazard joins them its either he changes his game reduce senseless dribbles or bench and shipped out

C. Ronaldo when he just joined Man ure used to just dribble for fun until he refined his game, reduced the senseless Hazard-like dribbles and became a legend

Who recognises you in the world of football to call his dribbles senseless and Unproductive, do you seriously watch his matches or this is just pure hate....Messi currently dribbles dan Hazard, he passes to Neymar or Suarez who converts coolly , Hazard created more dan 100 chances this season, dont u know what creating goal-scoring chances mean?? As a winger, what shud be ur primary aim from the wing??

hensben:
Hazard can never sit on the bench considering the money they will use to sign him...he will be a perfect replacement for iniesta, hazard can play AMF as well, iniesta don dey decline.

Infact the best front line for Madrid next season will be

............C.Ronaldo

Hazard. Rodriguez. Bale.


This kinda frontline go dey flog any team, anyhow.

raumdeuter:


The link you brought was as at 2004, Then Arsenal has never made a semi finals

Arsenal before Henry, during Henry nor After Henry were never a Grade A team

they were though they don't have history in the ucl considering they haven't won it. Every tournament inter-relate that's, if a team finish first or 2nd in a league they automatically retain pot 1 in ucl but if they finish 4th(like arsenal for the past years now) they will be placed in pot 2 so during thiery henry arsenal was a grade A team ..always remember this line; 'rating of club/grade is temporary but history is permanent'.

jimmy4x:

Who recognises you in the world of football to call his dribbles senseless and Unproductive, do you seriously watch his matches or this is just pure hate....Messi currently dribbles dan Hazard, he passes to Neymar or Suarez who converts coolly , Hazard created more dan 100 chances this season, dont u know what creating goal-scoring chances mean?? As a winger, what shud be ur primary aim from the wing??

Messi dribbles and uses it to score or create assists. Like in the CL semi vs Bayern or the Copa del rey final vs Bilbao

Hazard dribbles earned him 2 goals in open play in the past 3 seasons . Thats the definition of senseless dribble