JigsawKillah:
who y'all betting on tomorrow?
Juventus or Barca

Juve of course.. We wanna have a party on Barca's thread tommorow.

Bimffo:



Lool.. Dayo?? Did You watch both Matches??

Against Juve, Mata played as a False 9.. Hazard still played as a LMF.

Against Arsenal this recently concluded season, Oscar played as the False 9.. Hazard played as the LMF.

Forget all those analysis and news line Up for those matches! Hazard as never played as a False 9 at Chelsea!

no mind them, dm go just go goal.com go read line up, after the match dm go check ppl wey score and assist. Them no go ever watch match, na y dm no knw hazard quality. I dy watch many matches wey player go be shit throughout, bt go fortunately tap in one goal. These guys neva ask d reason y ppl hail messi performance against man city 4 dis season, upon say hm no score them 1 goal.

Ibime:
Oh men, na so this summer go be?

For months on end, these 2 krauts have decamped fully to our thread to insult and harrass us due to lack of activity on theirs.

@ Mukina2, Ogbeche77, can you please call Raumdeuter and A40 to order so we can have meaningful conversations on our thread.

I'm putting out a cease and desist order. We the peaceful citizens of thís part of Nairaland real estate don't want to see them trespassing this thread till the summer is out.

This is a peaceful entreaty. Our next action as a group of fans will be to jointly and simultaneously request a ban for the offending parties if they continue to disturb our thread. First we will start by all reporting their offending posts, then we will escalate to multiple petitions to the Mods. Please take note.

A cease and desist order?

I've always thought an Abmahnung would do

JigsawKillah:
who y'all betting on tomorrow?

Juventus or Barca

I'm rooting for Juve to win 2-0.

We will witness a defensive masterclass from the Old Lady in Berlin. Their 3-5-2 formation would stifle MSN (or even NTA).

CFCfan:

I'm rooting for Juve to win 2-0.

We will witness a defensive masterclass from the Old Lady in Berlin. Their 3-5-2 formation would stifle MSN (or even NTA).

Lionel Messi, the best footballer in the world, will destroy them as usual.

Greatihex:
no mind them, dm go just go goal.com go read line up, after the match dm go check ppl wey score and assist. Them no go ever watch match, na y dm no knw hazard quality. I dy watch many matches wey player go be shit throughout, bt go fortunately tap in one goal. These guys neva ask d reason y ppl hail messi performance against man city 4 dis season, upon say hm no score them 1 goal.

what r u even saying? d facts r dia ,who mentioned goal.com here?

Greatihex:
no mind them, dm go just go goal.com go read line up, after the match dm go check ppl wey score and assist. Them no go ever watch match, na y dm no knw hazard quality. I dy watch many matches wey player go be shit throughout, bt go fortunately tap in one goal. These guys neva ask d reason y ppl hail messi performance against man city 4 dis season, upon say hm no score them 1 goal.

bro i tell you, na livescores them dey check..smh. that i diot say hazard dey dribble meaningless dribble lol..if na assist and goal be football then iniesta is an average player. in mou tactic and formation hazard is just like iniesta.

parrotibaba:
what r u even saying? d facts r dia ,who mentioned goal.com here?

me and u no get talk, cus u no dy argue objectively.

Greatihex:
me and u no get talk, cus u no dy argue objectively.

and u argue objectively? somebody said dat hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career but evidence says otherwise n u think it's as a result of visiting goal.com that we make our points ,u think say only una d watch live matches ...some Chelsea fans self

CFCfan:

I'm rooting for Juve to win 2-0.

We will witness a defensive masterclass from the Old Lady in Berlin. Their 3-5-2 formation would stifle MSN (or even NTA).

Ahh, At last! Now I'm 100% sure barcelona will win!
I've been waiting for your prediction for a while now! Your prediction concerning barcelona has always gone the opposite way from Man city to PSG to bayern. ....... and now to Juventus!

parrotibaba:
and u argue objectively? somebody said dat hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career but evidence says otherwise n u think it's as a result of visiting goal.com that we make our points ,u think say only una d watch live matches ...some Chelsea fans self

do u hv problem wt undastding? If u had watched the match, u wouldn't hv said that. In both matches, mata and oscar played as the false 9. Try and watch matches. Hazard has only played false 9 for few minutes, and that was last season when a striker was brought off wt abt 5 minutes to go.

Nihilist did you hear about the death of the great All blacks player Jerry Collins? He was one of the best if not the best blindside flanker in world rugby during his peak not forgetting He was the best and most forecious hitter in the world at that time too(one of my favourite players as well).

The All blacks will be wearing black arm bands at the worldcup which is to be expected. That's the lest they can do to honour this legend.

hensben:
bro i tell you, na livescores them dey check..smh. that i diot say hazard dey dribble meaningless dribble lol..if na assist and goal be football then iniesta is an average player. in mou tactic and formation hazard is just like iniesta.

no mind them.

parrotibaba:
and u argue objectively? somebody said dat hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career but evidence says otherwise n u think it's as a result of visiting goal.com that we make our points ,u think say only una d watch live matches ...some Chelsea fans self

Which evidence are you even talking about?

A kraut who claims he's the most intelligent copied and pasted a media pre-match speculation and you call that evidence?

Against Juventus, Mata was used as a false 9 and just this season against Arsenal Oscar was assigned the same role.

What point are you and Dayokanu trying to make by the way?

If Hazard starts as a striker in a game, does that automatically make him a striker?

We've seen players get shunted to unfamiliar territories, most times these are contingency plans, it doesn't necessarily entail that such players are meant for those positions.

David Luiz is seldom shunted to the CM, I guess we have to conclude that he's a Central Midfielder.

Greatihex:
do u hv problem wt undastding? If u had watched the match, u wouldn't hv said that. In both matches, mata and oscar played as the false 9. Try and watch matches. Hazard has only played false 9 for few minutes, and that was last season when a striker was brought off wt abt 5 minutes to go.

mumu is it not d match where Juventus whipped Chelsea 3-0? The problem is dat u guys don't even know what a false nine is ...n for ur info I watched both legs ,n to further buttress my point ,I backed it up with proof from zonal marking who monitor matches n lineups,hazard started as a false nine b4 Torres was brought in ...a little research wouldn't kill u would it?

AirborneLacer:


Which evidence are you even talking about?

A kraut who claims he's the most intelligent copied and pasted a media pre-match speculation and you call that evidence?

Against Juventus, Mata was used as a false 9 and just this season against Arsenal Oscar was assigned the same role.

What point are you and Dayokanu trying to make by the way?

If Hazard starts as a striker in a game, does that automatically make him a striker?

We've seen players get shunted to unfamiliar territories, most times these are contingency plans, it doesn't necessarily entail that such players are meant for those positions.

David Luiz is seldom shunted to the CM, I guess we have to conclude that he's a Central Midfielder.

nobody said hazard is a striker ,Gerrard pique was used as a striker during d dying embers of d game between inter n Barcelona in 2010 ,does dat now mk him a striker? Bimffo said dat hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career n I corrected him

parrotibaba:
nobody said hazard is a striker ,Gerrard pique was used as a striker during d dying embers of d game between inter n Barcelona in 2010 ,does dat now mk him a striker? Bimffo said dat hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career n I corrected him

Don't be so naive. This is what happens when you make out time to support a claim made by a Kraut who's hate-ridden.

A Chelsea fan claimed that Neymar operates more in the box and is hardly involved in playmaking, whilst Hazard is more often involved in playmaking and is usually drifted away from the box.

The simple point he was trying to make is that Neymar is a striker who knows where the goal is whilst Hazard is an attacking midfielder who is usually involved in a build-up to a goal, hence the Brazilian has found the net more than the Belgian.

So please tell, what point are you trying to establish when you dig up a media pre-match speculation that suggests that Hazard would start as a false 9?

AirborneLacer:


Don't be so naive. This is what happens when you make out time to support a claim made by a Kraut who's hate-ridden.

A Chelsea fan claimed that Neymar operates more in the box and is hardly involved in playmaking, whilst Hazard is more often involved in playmaking and is usually drifted away from the box.

The simple point he was trying to make is that Neymar is a striker who knows where the goal is whilst Hazard is an attacking midfielder who is usually involved in a build-up to a goal, hence the Brazilian has found the net more than the Belgian.

So please tell, what point are you trying to establish when you dig up a media pre-match speculation that suggests that Hazard would start as a false 9?

u r d naive one here ,u don't even know d base from which dis argument started from ,to be more lucid ,Bimffo had posted dat Eden hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career n I proved him wrong with d post match analysis which stated dat hazard started d match against juventus(d second leg) as a false nine b4 being replaced by Torres towards d end of d match ...n dats it!! And for ur info ,Zonal marking does not bring out pre match analysis ,de do post match analysis ...

This is what happens when u jump into an argument without any idea what is being said

parrotibaba:
mumu is it not d match where Juventus whipped Chelsea 3-0? The problem is dat u guys don't even know what a false nine is ...n for ur info I watched both legs ,n to further buttress my point ,I backed it up with proof from zonal marking who monitor matches n lineups,hazard started as a false nine b4 Torres was brought in ...a little research wouldn't kill u would it?

and i keep telin u dat, there is no amount of research dat wl show u wat happened in the match. U wl only c the real person that played d false 9 when u watch d match. Stop looking at line ups.

AirborneLacer:


Don't be so naive. This is what happens when you make out time to support a claim made by a Kraut who's hate-ridden.

A Chelsea fan claimed that Neymar operates more in the box and is hardly involved in playmaking, whilst Hazard is more often involved in playmaking and is usually drifted away from the box.

The simple point he was trying to make is that Neymar is a striker who knows where the goal is whilst Hazard is an attacking midfielder who is usually involved in a build-up to a goal, hence the Brazilian has found the net more than the Belgian.

So please tell, what point are you trying to establish when you dig up a media pre-match speculation that suggests that Hazard would start as a false 9?

Which skul did u graduate from, I like the way u nd A40 write nd how u put ur words together...buh A40 is still a dickhead though, I'm sure he's coming for me.

Greatihex:
and i keep telin u dat, there is no amount of research dat wl show u wat happened in the match. U wl only c the real person that played d false 9 when u watch d match. Stop looking at line ups.

The level of ignorance in dis thread is appalling ,it's like pouring a bucket of water into an empty basket ...so u r d only on in d football world who is a genius in watching matches? n ur word is final baa? I watched d game myself n if I had relied on dat ,u ppl will ask me for proof or post match analysis hence my compliance ...






This is what various websites said after d match

parrotibaba:
The level of ignorance in dis thread is appalling ,it's like pouring a bucket of water into an empty basket ...so u r d only on in d football world who is a genius in watching matches? n ur word is final baa? I watched d game myself n if I had relied on dat ,u ppl will ask me for proof or post match analysis hence my compliance ...






This is what various websites said after d match

u sabi watch ball, u cum hia dy type rubbish?

Greatihex:
u sabi watch ball, u cum hia dy type rubbish?

shey u don see proof throw way face ,now na "u sabi watch ball,u cum hia dy type rubbish?" ... I give up

parrotibaba:
u r d naive one here ,u don't even know d base from which dis argument started from ,to be more lucid ,Bimffo had posted dat Eden hazard has never played as a false nine in his Chelsea career n I proved him wrong with d post match analysis which stated dat hazard started d match against juventus(d second leg) as a false nine b4 being replaced by Torres towards d end of d match ...n dats it!! And for ur info ,Zonal marking does not bring out pre match analysis ,de do post match analysis ...

Rule No1 is, trust your own judgement. How relevant would zonal marking's analysis be when you actually saw the game and know the truth?

I studied Journalism and I know how reports can easily get skewed by the media.

If Zonal marking believes that Hazard saw out the game as a false 9, how come Eurosport rated Mata as a striker after the game?

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2012-2013/juventus-chelsea-519063.html

AirborneLacer:


Rule No1 is, trust your own judgement. How relevant would zonal marking's analysis be when you actually saw the game and know the truth?

I studied Journalism and I know how reports can easily get skewed by the media.

If Zonal marking believes that Hazard saw out the game as a false 9, how come Eurosport rated Mata as a striker after the game?

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2012-2013/juventus-chelsea-519063.html

the relevancy of zonal marking comes to play as de monitor d various players individually while u are engrossed in d match itself ..Various websites stated hazard as a false 9 in dat game ,u r giving me d website dat said Chelsea played a 4-6-0 formation yet lists mata as dia striker ,u can do better mate ...Read my previous post ,d various websites says he played as a false 9 ...d reason for my backup evidence is because if I had said I watched d match n hazard played as a false 9 ,u would hv asked me for proof


As a person dat studied journalism ,u kinda suck at it ,purposely neglecting d various websites dat stated hazard as a false nine in dat game ,n looking for one unsure website to back up ur point

For accurate post match analysis ,zonalmarking.net is one of d various websites responsible for dat as it's dia job to monitor d players individually in d match,d lineups, etc n after d match ,de post di post match analysis ...

parrotibaba:
shey u don see proof throw way face ,now na "u sabi watch ball,u cum hia dy type rubbish?" ... I give up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4F1TFexN6Q

jimmy4x:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4F1TFexN6Q

what is dis ? give me proof dat hazard didn't play as a false nine against Juventus n u r giving a video ,like I didn't watch d match

parrotibaba:
the relevancy of zonal marking comes to play as de monitor d various players individually while u are engrossed in d match itself ..Various websites stated hazard as a false 9 in dat game ,u r giving me d website dat said Chelsea played a 4-6-0 formation yet lists mata as dia striker ,u can do better mate ...Read my previous post ,d various websites says he played as a false 9 ...d reason for my backup evidence is because if I had said I watched d match n hazard played as a false 9 ,u would hv asked me for proof


As a person dat studied journalism ,u kinda suck at it ,purposely neglecting d various websites dat stated hazard as a false nine in dat game ,n looking for one unsure website to back up ur point

Someone remind me why I'm on this debate with this footie neophyte.

The “false 9” is logically goddamn named. At the beginning of the game, they are typically deployed as a striker. However they don't hang on shoulders of defenders as a traditional No9 would. Instead, they retreat deeper into the pitch, joining the midfield, and creating a six-man midfield.

So if Eurosport reported that Chelsea deployed a 4-6-0 formation, they are damn right and the joke of the millenium is on you for not paying attention.

Where are you from really? Saturn?

chic2pimp:
Nihilist did you hear about the death of the great All blacks player Jerry Collins? He was one of the best if not the best blindside flanker in world rugby during his peak not forgetting He was the best and most forecious hitter in the world at that time too(one of my favourite players as well).

The All blacks will be wearing black arm bands at the worldcup which is to be expected. That's the lest they can do to honour this legend.

It's been in the news all week.
Dude was a good 6, but I would never label him the 'best' at any point of his career.

Even at the 'peak' of his career around 2006-7, the incredible Schalk Burger(as my brother-in-law calls him lol)was undoubtably by far the superior flanker.

Yes, he was a beast in the maul. But Imo a 6 by definition is chosen for that very quality. But what's the point of winning a turnover, if your offloading skills can be suspect?

Did you ever see him carry? How many career tries did he have? Only thing you probably remember is his big hits...which were phenomenal though!

The man was a Kiwi for God's sake. Them lot live and breathe the sport. Every kid out there has the fundamentals mastered before they're 12, but I don't think I ever saw him do a single sidestep playing for AB.

Look at someone like Tom Croft(yes hyping a tigers player) or Coetzee for the springboks.

Hell, Look at Kaino playing that same position now for AB.


Don't let the media love-in fool you. There's a reason why he had such a journey man career
No true great moves from France to the UK.

His profile is probably larger in death than it ever was in life,and I say this as an All Black fan.

RIP to the man still.

AirborneLacer:


Someone remind me why I'm on this debate with this footie neophyte.

The “false 9” is logically goddamn named. At the beginning of the game, they are typically deployed as a striker. However they don't hang on shoulders of defenders as a traditional No9 would. Instead, they retreat deeper into the pitch, joining the midfield, and creating a six-man midfield.

So if Eurosport reported that Chelsea deployed a 4-6-0 formation, they are damn right and the joke of the millenium is on you for not paying attention.

Where are you from really? Saturn?

I can't believe dat I hv been wasting my strength arguing with amateurs ,

@d bolded ,u just said what I hv been saying all along

a false 9 is commonly played in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation but he isn't a striker so he falls back to d midfield to anchor play. Emphasis is on d word "false" ,meaning he could play anywhere in d midfield ,a false nine lined up in d formation of d team is listed in d position of a strike but dat is not his role ...


You said dat Eurosport listed Mata as a striker but yet de stated dat Chelsea started d game in a 4-6-0 formation ,how does dis correspond? I found fault in dat particular line in ur post ...

#Fact

Eden Hazard was used as a false nine against Juventus not as a center forward for fцck's sake meaning he operated in d midfield ...

How much more conspicuous can I make dis be?