| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by P0intBlank(m): 12:16pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Xlad:
[b]My preferred starting 11.
....................................Enaholo...........................................
.......Musa...........Ndidi..................Bello...............Mustapha......
......................................Idowu............................................
........................................................ ....Ifeanyi......................
........................Sokari...........................................................
.......Iheanacho.......................................................................
.............................................................................Yahaya....
.....................................Success...........................................
Sub:
60-65mins.. Yahaya ⇌ Saviour
69-73mins.. Iheanacho ⇌ Awoniyi ( Success will now play as a winger)
75-80mins.. Success ⇌ Moses/Bulbwa
Hungary is a team that will like to hit us hard with counter attack because what they will have in mind is to play a goalless draw with us.. Ifeanyi and idowu are defensively minded players so i think it will be hard for Hungary to achieve their plans but the coach needs to tell both the winger and ifeanyi to help mustapha. Only him playing as defender, mid-fielder and winger same time is not good and again, he should stop being in a hurry to attack. His no.1 duty is to defend and not to attack likewise musa. Ifeanyi is improving more especially his long range passes but he must avoid silly mistakes.
Sokari from his game so far is not that much a counter attack minded midfielder. He is a wonderful midfielder that will always be controlling the tempo of the game, slowing it down when needed. Iheanacho contributed more offensively in the game he played than bulbwa. He gave an assist and also hit the bar. The only problem with him is that he is not contributing defensively but i think after the snub by Manu, he will up his overall contribution. Moreover he is very very good when it comes to counter attack than Bulbwa.
Saviour is that type of player that always tries to dribble and score.. His effort will be needed much during 2nd-half so starting yahaya will be better cause he is not that selfish with the ball and is very good in assisting.
When it comes to confidence and composure in front of the goalpost at this current stage, mehn, Success is still ahead of Awoniyi. i'm a strong fan of Awoniyi but mehn, Success got two opportunities and scored with it while awoniyi missed atleast 4 chances. We can't gamble in-front of goals. Any opportunity we get must be converted to a goal; so starting Success will be more okay than starting Awoniyi moreover he is faster than Awoniyi. Awoniyi can come in during 2nd-half and do what he does best(assisting).
I was discussing with my university football coach about this tournament although his country didn't qualify and i didn't know the man is even following everything and the man told me he is yet to miss a nigerian match. He told me clear that when it comes to quick counter attack, so far in New Zealand, that Nigeria is the most dangerous because when they are on counter attack just a maximum of 4 passes will result to a goal. He was like saying our first and second goals against brazil was after two and three passes where interchanged respectively while our second goal against N.Korea involved only a single pass. that the possibility of nigerian counter attack resulting to a goal is 90% which is even more better than the germanys and portuguess.
Goodluck F.E[/b] Do u also preplan ur subs? Shouldn't u wait to see how the match pans out? |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 12:22pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
gbosaa:
In Brazil's game, two players who never trained or played competitive matches with the team walked in: iheanacho and success in hindsight were costly mistakes. The flying Eagles that we know should have won that match by 2-1. Their strength is the cohesion and ability to help each other. For those shouting Simon, he might be a good player but can he return and chase ball like bulbwa, Godwin? Can return just in time to help Musa who likes to bomb forward and supply passes? The old flying Eagles's style of play gave him the chance to move forward like Cafu. The likes of idowu, nwobodo always return invade the opponents intercept and lunch counters.
I didn't see those in the first game. The laxity of the forwards in that game meant the the likes of Ifeanyi couldn't play confidently like we all know...well for those who know his qualities. It wasn't a surprise that the so called big boys were benched. Iheanacho is a good player no doubt, we saw what he did at Southampton and against Man U but I would still keep him on the bench and bring him in when he is needed in the second half. Mehn... I laugh when guys who should know more decide to yarn befuddling yarns! The first match was a travesty in coaching and not a result of the late arrival of the foreign pros! Success, who was the last to arrive camp is suddenly the breakaway star as he's scored in virually all official matches he's played for nigeria spanning since 2013. Success tracks back when told to track back cos I can vividly remember success making forays from way deeper than usual in the midfield during is brief Cameo in the Korean match. As for the first match, the blame should rest squarely on the midfielders and not the strikers. It is the midfielders job to dictate the pace of the game, win balls in the midfield and then give them to the strikers to finish. Our midfield was non-existent in the brazil game. End of story. For your information.. this new philosophy of "ah.. the strikers should track back to win balls for the team.." that is creeping into every day football Lingo is raping my ears mehn! So you're saying that you'd prefer a "Shola ameobi" to an "obafemi martins" cos Shola ameobi "plays for the team" ? I laugh. Take a look.. imean a very close look @ barca. Is messi a ball winner?....NO Is suarez a Ball winner?....NO "Is Neymar a Ball winner?...NO Then how the flying heck do they manage to score so many goals yet let in extremely few goals @ the back compared to teams that have embraced this supposedly "mordern philosophy of strikers tracking back to win balls for the team". It's nonsense joor. Inasmuch as I respect Manu Garba's tactical acumen and vision as a coach, the blame of the shambolic gameplay of that team in the 2nd half rests squarely on his shoulders! In my own opinion sha, Iheanacho had no business hiding up front wen its his duty to win bals and provide through passes for success, awoniyi and yahaya to finish off. That aside, he's also too good a player to bench too. I hope and believe that Garba will fashion out a workable template to accommodate our foreign stars into our subsequent games. People like iheanacho, success and yahaya shouldn't be sitting on the bench in favor of the lot. Heck, out of the 6 goals scored so far..NOT ONE has been scored by ANY member of that team that won the African Youth Championship! Strange eh? NB. Pardon my rants oh!..just that I get pissed when peeps suddenly put down the efforts of hardworking players like Success and Yahaya over less than capable players like bulbwa and Awoniyi (yes I said it A-w-o-n-i-y-i)! Awoniyi is a good player alright but he's primarily a TARGET MAN and even at that, he's far less technically astute a striker as Success in ALL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GAME! 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 12:40pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
jobsat34:
i will suggest yu start reading all over frm page 1.. genuine supporters list is not complete without my name... lols.. ask safarigirl she can attest to this.. my brother i will have to hit my head on a pole not to forget names of strong supporters like u again, im so sorry sir. oga jobsat accept my appologies sir.  |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by tbaba1234: 12:40pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Kannymoore, success worked hard when he came on but he did not in the first game.
Barca is a hard working team, everyoneis a ball winner when they press the opponent. Good defending starts from the front. 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by safarigirl(f): 12:40pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
Mehn... I laugh when guys who should know more decide to yarn befuddling yarns!
The first match was a travesty in coaching and not a result of the late arrival of the foreign pros!
Success, who was the last to arrive camp is suddenly the breakaway star as he's scored in virually all official matches he's played for nigeria spanning since 2013.
Success tracks back when told to track back cos I can vividly remember success making forays from way deeper than usual in the midfield during is brief Cameo in the Korean match.
As for the first match, the blame should rest squarely on the midfielders and not the strikers. It is the midfielders job to dictate the pace of the game, win balls in the midfield and then give them to the strikers to finish.
Our midfield was non-existent in the brazil game. End of story.
For your information.. this new philosophy of "ah.. the strikers should track back to win balls for the team.." that is creeping into every day football Lingo is raping my ears mehn! So you're saying that you'd prefer a "Shola ameobi" to an "obafemi martins" cos Shola ameobi "plays for the team" ?
I laugh.
Take a look.. imean a very close look @ barca.
Is messi a ball winner?....NO
Is suarez a Ball winner?....NO
"Is Neymar a Ball winner?...NO
Then how the flying heck do they manage to score so many goals yet let in extremely few goals @ the back compared to teams that have embraced this supposedly "mordern philosophy of strikers tracking back to win balls for the team".
It's nonsense joor.
Inasmuch as I respect Manu Garba's tactical acumen and vision as a coach, the blame of the shambolic gameplay of that team in the 2nd half rests squarely on his shoulders!
In my own opinion sha, Iheanacho had no business hiding up front wen its his duty to win bals and provide through passes for success, awoniyi and yahaya to finish off.
That aside, he's also too good a player to bench too.
I hope and believe that Garba will fashion out a workable template to accommodate our foreign stars into our subsequent games. People like iheanacho, success and yahaya shouldn't be sitting on the bench in favor of the lot. Heck, out of the 6 goals scored so far..NOT ONE has been scored by ANY member of that team that won the African Youth Championship!
Strange eh?
NB. Pardon my rants oh!..just that I get pissed when [s]peeps suddenly put down the efforts of hardworking players like Success and Yahaya over less than capable players like bulbwa and Awoniyi (yes I said it A-w-o-n-i-y-i)![/s]
Awoniyi is a good player alright but he's primarily a TARGET MAN and even at that, he's far less technically astute a striker as Success in ALL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GAME!
that line is trash. No one is putting down anyone's hardwork. Success did not steal the ball fron N/Korea's defence to score a goal. Someone passed him the ball, and the rest of us get pissed off when you lot downplay and ridicule the guys who qualified you for this tournament just because technically better players are around. It's just like making nonsense of the faulty Peugeot 504 that served you faithfully for decades just because you got a new, shiny Range Rover. Every other statement is correct, but that crossed out one is trash that can't even be recycled |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:44pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Different coaches have different philosophy. You can not use Enrique's philosophy to judge Coach Manu Garba and his crew.
Coach Manu Garba likes his team playing as a unit. Like in the game between Brazil and Nigeria, the commentator pointed out that there was a time we were playing with one defender.
When we are not with the ball, Coach Manu Garba wants the same thing in reverse. He wants all the players defending as a unit. If the attackers fail to do this, the philosophy of the team is defeated and weak points created.kannymoore:
Mehn... I laugh when guys who should know more decide to yarn befuddling yarns!
The first match was a travesty in coaching and not a result of the late arrival of the foreign pros!
Success, who was the last to arrive camp is suddenly the breakaway star as he's scored in virually all official matches he's played for nigeria spanning since 2013.
Success tracks back when told to track back cos I can vividly remember success making forays from way deeper than usual in the midfield during is brief Cameo in the Korean match.
As for the first match, the blame should rest squarely on the midfielders and not the strikers. It is the midfielders job to dictate the pace of the game, win balls in the midfield and then give them to the strikers to finish.
Our midfield was non-existent in the brazil game. End of story.
For your information.. this new philosophy of "ah.. the strikers should track back to win balls for the team.." that is creeping into every day football Lingo is raping my ears mehn! So you're saying that you'd prefer a "Shola ameobi" to an "obafemi martins" cos Shola ameobi "plays for the team" ?
I laugh.
Take a look.. imean a very close look @ barca.
Is messi a ball winner?....NO
Is suarez a Ball winner?....NO
"Is Neymar a Ball winner?...NO
Then how the flying heck do they manage to score so many goals yet let in extremely few goals @ the back compared to teams that have embraced this supposedly "mordern philosophy of strikers tracking back to win balls for the team".
It's nonsense joor.
Inasmuch as I respect Manu Garba's tactical acumen and vision as a coach, the blame of the shambolic gameplay of that team in the 2nd half rests squarely on his shoulders!
In my own opinion sha, Iheanacho had no business hiding up front wen its his duty to win bals and provide through passes for success, awoniyi and yahaya to finish off.
That aside, he's also too good a player to bench too.
I hope and believe that Garba will fashion out a workable template to accommodate our foreign stars into our subsequent games. People like iheanacho, success and yahaya shouldn't be sitting on the bench in favor of the lot. Heck, out of the 6 goals scored so far..NOT ONE has been scored by ANY member of that team that won the African Youth Championship!
Strange eh?
NB. Pardon my rants oh!..just that I get pissed when peeps suddenly put down the efforts of hardworking players like Success and Yahaya over less than capable players like bulbwa and Awoniyi (yes I said it A-w-o-n-i-y-i)!
Awoniyi is a good player alright but he's primarily a TARGET MAN and even at that, he's far less technically astute a striker as Success in ALL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GAME!
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| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by lexyman(m): 12:45pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
Mehn... I laugh when guys who should know more decide to yarn befuddling yarns!
The first match was a travesty in coaching and not a result of the late arrival of the foreign pros!
Success, who was the last to arrive camp is suddenly the breakaway star as he's scored in virually all official matches he's played for nigeria spanning since 2013.
Success tracks back when told to track back cos I can vividly remember success making forays from way deeper than usual in the midfield during is brief Cameo in the Korean match.
As for the first match, the blame should rest squarely on the midfielders and not the strikers. It is the midfielders job to dictate the pace of the game, win balls in the midfield and then give them to the strikers to finish.
Our midfield was non-existent in the brazil game. End of story.
For your information.. this new philosophy of "ah.. the strikers should track back to win balls for the team.." that is creeping into every day football Lingo is raping my ears mehn! So you're saying that you'd prefer a "Shola ameobi" to an "obafemi martins" cos Shola ameobi "plays for the team" ?
I laugh.
Take a look.. imean a very close look @ barca.
Is messi a ball winner?....NO
Is suarez a Ball winner?....NO
"Is Neymar a Ball winner?...NO
Then how the flyings heck do they manage to score so many goals yet let in extremely few goals @ the back compared to teams that have embraced this supposedly "mordern philosophy of strikers tracking back to win balls for the team".
It's nonsense joor.
Inasmuch as I respect Manu Garba's tactical acumen and vision as a coach, the blame of the shambolic gameplay of that team in the 2nd half rests squarely on his shoulders!
In my own opinion sha, Iheanacho had no business hiding up front wen its his duty to win bals and provide through passes for success, awoniyi and yahaya to finish off.
That aside, he's also too good a player to bench too.
I hope and believe that Garba will fashion out a workable template to accommodate our foreign stars into our subsequent games. People like iheanacho, success and yahaya shouldn't be sitting on the bench in favor of the lot. Heck, out of the 6 goals scored so far..NOT ONE has been scored by ANY member of that team that won the African Youth Championship!
Strange eh?
NB. Pardon my rants oh!..just that I get pissed when peeps suddenly put down the efforts of hardworking players like Success and Yahaya over less than capable players like bulbwa and Awoniyi (yes I said it A-w-o-n-i-y-i)!
Awoniyi is a good player alright but he's primarily a TARGET MAN and even at that, he's far less technically astute a striker as Success in ALL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GAME!
You rve been spot on bro! But Manu pattern is that the player shld play for one another , in fact that has been the core style of the team , the only reason he kept the star players on the bench is to remind them of the team philosophy . That team can score goals without a striker we have past record to proof that ... I wish the team will play to their full potentials against the Hungarian . 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:49pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
lexyman:
You re been spot on bro! He can not be spot on. Nacho and Success might perform incredibly when they are on the ball but if they are not playing to the philosophy of the coach, their talent is useless to him. Note, I am a die hard Nacho fan.
These guys will come in but at the end, the team is lead by the coach and they are here because of his vision. It is not just about winning but sticking to his plans for the tournament.
Remember, Van Gaal dropped Di Maria from his squad, despite him being the most talented player in his squad because he did not play to Van Gaal's philosophy. |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 12:53pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
adeyemi2015:
The Flying Eagles camped in Germany for their preparations. They played against the German Club-sides (U23) Teams and performed excellently and gallantly. Then why questioning their abilities, standards and potentials just because they lost to the Brazilians?
Thanks dude for your unquestionable and fervent believe in the Boys, I believe they are a match to any Team in this Competition. God bless u my brother |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 1:05pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Modified* |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 1:05pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:
Different coaches have different philosophy. You can not use Enrique's philosophy to judge Coach Manu Garba and his crew.
Coach Manu Garba likes his team playing as a unit. Like in the game between Brazil and Nigeria, the commentator pointed out that there was a time we were playing with one defender.
When we are not with the ball, Coach Manu Garba wants the same thing in reverse. He wants all the players defending as a unit. If the attackers fail to do this, the philosophy of the team is defeated and weak points created.
I respect your analysis but I still stand that because a striker doesn't help out as much in defensive duties, he is labelled as inferior to one who joins in defending. You mentioned Messi et al under Enrique.. what about Messi under Guardiola nko? Was he winning balls back then? NO. Not all players are cut out to be "all rounders". Heck.. no matter how well rounded defensive wise Bale and Ronaldo are, they still aren't as good as Neymar and Messi. Opari! Lol! Meanwhile, the mass defence Mass attack counter attacking strategy as being the best is a myth. The best form of counter-attack is done in two or three medium-to-long range passes. Done in such a way that when the ball finallykisses the net, the opposition won't know what hit them. Running up and down will only tire your players out the more. Abi u no dey see Barca's counter attacking? Two out of the trio of attackers are always upfront..always!.. the pace of the counterattack sometimes is so swift that before the opponent fit even pronounce "counter-att.." ball don already enter net!  ! 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 1:08pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:
He can not be spot on. Nacho and Success might perform incredibly when they are on the ball but if they are not playing to the philosophy of the coach, their talent is useless to him. Note, I am a die hard Nacho fan.
These guys will come in but at the end, the team is lead by the coach and they are here because of his vision. It is not just about winning but sticking to his plans for the tournament.
Remember, Van Gaal dropped Di Maria from his squad, despite him being the most talented player in his squad because he did not play to Van Gaal's philosophy. And what was the result in the end? Was ManUnited winning all their matches afterwards?  |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
It seems Many is going to use his starting 11 against Korea DPR for Hungary match tomorrow morning..
I heard that Isaac Success is the most lethal striker in our camp presently..
Simon Moses is not fully fit and may not feature in our game against Hungary same as Ifeanyi Matthew..
Kelechi scored a screamer during their training this morning, Success scored a brace..
A lot of drilling on set pieces..
If the lads can up their game tomorrow , Hungary should be enough appetizer for them before the German boys. 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by lexyman(m): 1:09pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:
He can not be spot on. Nacho and Success might perform incredibly when they are on the ball but if they are not playing to the philosophy of the coach, their talent is useless to him. Note, I am a die hard Nacho fan.
These guys will come in but at the end, the team is lead by the coach and they are here because of his vision. It is not just about winning but sticking to his plans for the tournament.
Remember, Van Gaal dropped Di Maria from his squad, despite him being the most talented player in his squad because he did not play to Van Gaal's philosophy. He made some valid point which I strongly concurred with ,that is d comment about the midfield . Awoniyi needs to come in from the bench , he can do better if Manu can bring him from the bench . On a very good day Awoniyi cam score , score and keep scoring ....someone compare him to Giroud of Arsenal . Every other department is okay , if our midfield is good our wingback can play to their full strength by contributing to the attack . And bring out the best from every one . Like u have mentioned Manu likes the team to play as a unit , infact this has been what has kept kept the team going our strength is the unity .for attackers to stay upfront without falling to the back when needed is a no no to Manu's philosophy . I have d full video of under 17 Worldcup 2013 , I still watch the video when I want to make myself very happy , the boys plays as if u re playing a play station game , perfect passes , crosses and perfect team work for that age grade ! The secret behind that is unity . 2 Likes |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 1:20pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
safarigirl:
that line is trash. No one is putting down anyone's hardwork. Success did not steal the ball fron N/Korea's defence to score a goal. Someone passed him the ball, and the rest of us get pissed off when you lot downplay and ridicule the guys who qualified you for this tournament just because technically better players are around.
It's just like making nonsense of the faulty Peugeot 504 that served you faithfully for decades just because you got a new, shiny Range Rover.
Every other statement is correct, but that crossed out one is trash that can't even be recycled Nne.. Shebi I told u once that Awoniyi can't be measured in the same breath as Success.. You cried blue murder. Well..the stats are there now..in your face. Oh.. so by your later analogy.. You'd prefer to continue carrying about a Sony walkman.. dial-up telephone...pocket diary..calculator, and then make endless trips to the post office to post letters instead of just buying a new battery for a BlackBerry phone..abi? Nne.. Kontunu!! ! I no dey argue again. 2 Likes |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 1:23pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
lexyman:
He made some valid point which I strongly concurred with ,that is d comment about the midfield .
Awoniyi needs to come in from the bench , he can do better if Manu can bring him from the bench . On a very good day Awoniyi cam score , score and keep scoring ....someone compare him to Giroud of Arsenal . Every other department is okay , if our midfield is good our wingback can play to their full strength by contributing to the attack . And bring out the best from every one .
Like u have mentioned Manu likes the team to play as a unit , infact this has been what has kept kept the team going our strength is the unity .for attackers to stay upfront without falling to the back when needed is a no no to Manu's philosophy .
I have d full video of under 17 Worldcup 2013 , I still watch the video when I want to make myself very happy , the boys plays as if u re playing a play station game , perfect passes , crosses and perfect team work for that age grade ! The secret behind that is unity . Nice one there! |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by joseph1013: 1:28pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
[b][size=14pt]Manu predicts African world champions[/size]
Flying Eagles coach Manu Garba has predicted an African team will win this year’s FIFA U20 World Cup in New Zealand.
Ghana made history in 2009 when they became the first African team to win the U20 World Cup, while Nigeria have reached the championship game twice, in 1989 and 2005.
The Black Satellites of Ghana and Mali are already through to the knockout rounds of the tournament in New Zealand, while Nigeria and Senegal are still in with a chance of progressing.
“Ghana and Mali have been fantastic,” saluted the Nigeria U20 coach.
“We are just picking up.
“But we are most likely to get two African teams in the semifinals and God’s willing, the trophy will return to Africa.”
Manu has equally taken notice of the organisation of the European teams as well as the sleeky skills of Brazil.
“The European teams like Germany, Serbia and Portugal are doing well because they are tactically organised, while Brazil have proved they are a decent side as well,” he remarked.
“The knockout rounds will show who are the top teams here.” [/b] 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by safarigirl(f): 1:37pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
Nne..
Shebi I told u once that Awoniyi can't be measured in the same breath as Success.. You cried blue murder.
Well..the stats are there now..in your face.
Oh.. so by your later analogy..
You'd prefer to continue carrying about a Sony walkman.. dial-up telephone...pocket diary..calculator, and then make endless trips to the post office to post letters instead of just buying a new battery for a BlackBerry phone..abi?
Nne..
Kontunu!! !
I no dey argue again. if you can't understand the analogy, feel free to ask for a breakdown instead of trying to sound smart  My analogy has nothing to do with using that old car, but just know that the day the new, shiny car breaks down, you'll remember the sturdy old one that never failed. Hype Success and co all you want, but don't use that as a pedestal to ridicule Awoniyi and co, it's not cool 3 Likes |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by zoboizee: 1:47pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
casket:
It seems Many is going to use his starting 11 against Korea DPR for Hungary match tomorrow morning..
I heard that Isaac Success is the most lethal striker in our camp presently..
Simon Moses is not fully fit and may not feature in our game against Hungary same as Ifeanyi Matthew..
Kelechi scored a screamer during their training this morning, Success scored a brace..
A lot of drilling on set pieces..
If the lads can up their game tomorrow , Hungary should be enough appetizer for them before the German boys. naija and new zealand time zone na day n night. no dey believe efrytin from those twitter guys o. this morning as how? if we day AM na PM dem dey o! Dem don dey sunday now as we dey |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by joseph1013: 1:57pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
[b][size=14pt]Aggrey predicts Nigeria-Brazil WC final[/size]
Sunshine Stars winger Prince Aggrey believes there will be a repeat of the Nigeria-Brazil group match in the finals of the Fifa Under-20 World Cup in New Zealand.
Aggrey, who was a member of the team, lost his place on the eve of the African Youth Championship (AYC) in Senegal.
“I was in the team so I know the quality of players in New Zealand. Their Group E match against Brazil remains the toughest for the team and I see both teams in the final.
“The final will be a chance for Nigeria to avenge the defeat to Brazil. We started well, but made some errors on match day,” the Sunshine winger told supersport.com.
Aggrey maintained that victory over North Korea in the second match confirmed the team’s readiness for business.
“The Flying Eagles will improve with every match and our opponents can’t withstand the firepower in the team. It’s a complete team that works together to create goals,” he said to supersport.com.
Aggrey contributed to the success of the Manu Garba-tutored under-20 side during their success at the Super Six Invitational Tournament in Abuja.
[/b] 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by zoboizee: 1:57pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
@kannymoore, i remember that arguement on this thread in May quoting myself " Success is the most clinical. A team player, Strong, pacy and skillful. His positioning is awesome. Awoniyi will still remain third best to me. His popularity is as a result of the absence of success and iheanacho. Bet you, if those guys have been playing national team football ever seen after u17 world cup, nobody will rate awoniyi this much. Remember he was in morocco 2013 but a hamstring to success gave him the big break in UAE. if iheanacho had played with success the way he played with awoniyi in UAE, success would have scored more than 7 goals in morocco. But in the competition in morocco when he played with Success he was always trying to make a point and being selfish a bit. So a well school iheanacho in distribution paired with Success will beat any team with wide margin come rain or shine. Ezeh to me, should still be below simon and pyagbara. But might be chosen anyway. He is a product of nff."
Guess am being vindicated now. 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:20pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
You said spot on, that is what prompted my response. But, the comment below shows you agree with some of his points. That is perfect with me.
However, as much as Awo missed goals, Coach Garba and his crew prefers an attacker who plays to his philosophy over an attacker that will score goals and not play to his philosophy.
I think that is the problem The coaching crew have with Moses, Nacho and Success. These boys did not train with the team for a while and with time, they will adjust.lexyman:
He made some valid point which I strongly concurred with ,that is d comment about the midfield .
Awoniyi needs to come in from the bench , he can do better if Manu can bring him from the bench . On a very good day Awoniyi cam score , score and keep scoring ....someone compare him to Giroud of Arsenal . Every other department is okay , if our midfield is good our wingback can play to their full strength by contributing to the attack . And bring out the best from every one .
Like u have mentioned Manu likes the team to play as a unit , infact this has been what has kept kept the team going our strength is the unity .for attackers to stay upfront without falling to the back when needed is a no no to Manu's philosophy .
I have d full video of under 17 Worldcup 2013 , I still watch the video when I want to make myself very happy , the boys plays as if u re playing a play station game , perfect passes , crosses and perfect team work for that age grade ! The secret behind that is unity . |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:23pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
And what was the result in the end?
Was ManUnited winning all their matches afterwards?
It is not about winning or losing. Coach Luis Enrique was not successful in every trial as a coach. Winning is not the answer but sticking and persevering with a philosophy. Mourinho described Wenger as a specialist in failure. Now Wenger won the FA Cup back to back. |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 2:24pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
gbosaa:
Like I said, the team that played in AYC Is different from this team. The nearest to the AY team was the team that played North Korea.
German trip to me wasn't enough to assess this team, mind you, iheanacho and success were not there. Even in their last game against nurnburg. The revelations were Godwin saviour with Muazaam knocking on the door, let's not forget the likes of Alfa.
In Brazil's game, two players who never trained or played competitive matches with the team walked in: iheanacho and success in hindsight were costly mistakes. The flying Eagles that we know should have won that match by 2-1. Their strength is the cohesion and ability to help each other. For those shouting Simon, he might be a good player but can he return and chase ball like bulbwa, Godwin? Can return just in time to help Musa who likes to bomb forward and supply passes? The old flying Eagles's style of play gave him the chance to move forward like Cafu. The likes of idowu, nwobodo always return invade the opponents intercept and lunch counters.
I didn't see those in the first game. The laxity of the forwards in that game meant the the likes of Ifeanyi couldn't play confidently like we all know...well for those who know his qualities. It wasn't a surprise that the so called big boys were benched. Iheanacho is a good player no doubt, we saw what he did at Southampton and against Man U but I would still keep him on the bench and bring him in when he is needed in the second half. 4 players actually. include yahaya and indidi |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by khattab02: 2:30pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
I respect your analysis but I still stand that because a striker doesn't help out as much in defensive duties, he is labelled as inferior to one who joins in defending.
You mentioned Messi et al under Enrique.. what about Messi under Guardiola nko? Was he winning balls back then?
NO.
Not all players are cut out to be "all rounders". Heck.. no matter how well rounded defensive wise Bale and Ronaldo are, they still aren't as good as Neymar and Messi.
Opari! Lol!
Meanwhile, the mass defence Mass attack counter attacking strategy as being the best is a myth.
The best form of counter-attack is done in two or three medium-to-long range passes. Done in such a way that when the ball finallykisses the net, the opposition won't know what hit them. Running up and down will only tire your players out the more.
Abi u no dey see Barca's counter attacking?
Two out of the trio of attackers are always upfront..always!.. the pace of the counterattack sometimes is so swift that before the opponent fit even pronounce "counter-att.." ball don already enter net!
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lol.... U no go kill me with ya counter attack analysis... Counter att...... Inside the net already Haha... #weldone guys! You guys are on top! 1 Like |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:32pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
This is not a matter of which player is better individually but which player is better suited for the philosophy of the team. For now, Awo does his defending part more than the other so, the team will defend better as a unit.
Also Guardiola has a different philosophy of defending with the ball and not when you do not have the ball. That is why he strives for long possession and multiple simple passes. So he will pick a player who will help him keep the ball longer over a player that will defend.
Also, Guardiola thinks Messi is a good defender.
“Messi is the best defender out there. When trying to take the ball off you, he will. I’m sure if you put him at left-back he would be the same,” commented Guardiola this week.
“My influence? If he does what he does in the area, what do I have to do with that?
kannymoore:
I respect your analysis but I still stand that because a striker doesn't help out as much in defensive duties, he is labelled as inferior to one who joins in defending.
You mentioned Messi et al under Enrique.. what about Messi under Guardiola nko? Was he winning balls back then?
NO.
Not all players are cut out to be "all rounders". Heck.. no matter how well rounded defensive wise Bale and Ronaldo are, they still aren't as good as Neymar and Messi.
Opari! Lol!
Meanwhile, the mass defence Mass attack counter attacking strategy as being the best is a myth.
The best form of counter-attack is done in two or three medium-to-long range passes. Done in such a way that when the ball finallykisses the net, the opposition won't know what hit them. Running up and down will only tire your players out the more.
Abi u no dey see Barca's counter attacking?
Two out of the trio of attackers are always upfront..always!.. the pace of the counterattack sometimes is so swift that before the opponent fit even pronounce "counter-att.." ball don already enter net!
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| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by AIG07: 2:37pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:
Different coaches have different philosophy. You can not use Enrique's philosophy to judge Coach Manu Garba and his crew.
Coach Manu Garba likes his team playing as a unit. Like in the game between Brazil and Nigeria, the commentator pointed out that there was a time we were playing with one defender.
When we are not with the ball, Coach Manu Garba wants the same thing in reverse. He wants all the players defending as a unit. If the attackers fail to do this, the philosophy of the team is defeated and weak points created.
IF I may ask- Sir, are you d one bearing 'thegoodjoehunt3'? |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by bigblangston: 2:38pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
kannymoore:
Mehn... I laugh when guys who should know more decide to yarn befuddling yarns!
The first match was a travesty in coaching and not a result of the late arrival of the foreign pros!
Success, who was the last to arrive camp is suddenly the breakaway star as he's scored in virually all official matches he's played for nigeria spanning since 2013.
Success tracks back when told to track back cos I can vividly remember success making forays from way deeper than usual in the midfield during is brief Cameo in the Korean match.
As for the first match, the blame should rest squarely on the midfielders and not the strikers. It is the midfielders job to dictate the pace of the game, win balls in the midfield and then give them to the strikers to finish.
Our midfield was non-existent in the brazil game. End of story.
For your information.. this new philosophy of "ah.. the strikers should track back to win balls for the team.." that is creeping into every day football Lingo is raping my ears mehn! So you're saying that you'd prefer a "Shola ameobi" to an "obafemi martins" cos Shola ameobi "plays for the team" ?
I laugh.
Take a look.. imean a very close look @ barca.
Is messi a ball winner?....NO
Is suarez a Ball winner?....NO
"Is Neymar a Ball winner?...NO
Then how the flying heck do they manage to score so many goals yet let in extremely few goals @ the back compared to teams that have embraced this supposedly "mordern philosophy of strikers tracking back to win balls for the team".
It's nonsense joor.
Inasmuch as I respect Manu Garba's tactical acumen and vision as a coach, the blame of the shambolic gameplay of that team in the 2nd half rests squarely on his shoulders!
In my own opinion sha, Iheanacho had no business hiding up front wen its his duty to win bals and provide through passes for success, awoniyi and yahaya to finish off.
That aside, he's also too good a player to bench too.
I hope and believe that Garba will fashion out a workable template to accommodate our foreign stars into our subsequent games. People like iheanacho, success and yahaya shouldn't be sitting on the bench in favor of the lot. Heck, out of the 6 goals scored so far..NOT ONE has been scored by ANY member of that team that won the African Youth Championship!
Strange eh?
NB. Pardon my rants oh!..just that I get pissed when peeps suddenly put down the efforts of hardworking players like Success and Yahaya over less than capable players like bulbwa and Awoniyi (yes I said it A-w-o-n-i-y-i)!
Awoniyi is a good player alright but he's primarily a TARGET MAN and even at that, he's far less technically astute a striker as Success in ALL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GAME!
Don't u think u deserved a coaching degree in europe? I shud sue u for plagiarism and mind patenting because u technically took those words frm my keypads. Be careful. Best post of d year on NL 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:42pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
AIG07:
IF I may ask- Sir, are you d one bearing 'thegoodjoehunt3'? Yes. I receieved a b.a.n and I switched to my old account. The ban is over and I reverted back to my TheGoodJoe account. |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:54pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
@kannymoore I am not saying you are wrong wanting Success ahead of Awo. But, Awo and co. have to play in the way the coach want them to play to get the nod ahead of Awo.
I believe they will get it right because they already know the Super Flying Eagles system of play. With time, they will gel and the team willwill perform better |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by kannymoore(m): 3:02pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
zoboizee:
@kannymoore, i remember that arguement on this thread in May quoting myself " Success is the most clinical. A team player, Strong, pacy and skillful. His positioning is awesome. Awoniyi will still remain third best to me. His popularity is as a result of the absence of success and iheanacho. Bet you, if those guys have been playing national team football ever seen after u17 world cup, nobody will rate awoniyi this much. Remember he was in morocco 2013 but a hamstring to success gave him the big break in UAE. if iheanacho had played with success the way he played with awoniyi in UAE, success would have scored more than 7 goals in morocco. But in the competition in morocco when he played with Success he was always trying to make a point and being selfish a bit. So a well school iheanacho in distribution paired with Success will beat any team with wide margin come rain or shine. Ezeh to me, should still be below simon and pyagbara. But might be chosen anyway. He is a product of nff."
Guess am being vindicated now.
BaRMAN!!! Dash dis niggah ONE CRATE of ORIJIN!!! At last..I've seen a Dude who sees exactly the same way I see!!! ! Bless your soul bruh! |
| Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Caspian22(m): 3:08pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
up till today I still don't understand the coach's reason for dropping iheanacho, but I don't mind who plays so long as we win.But if the coach wants to play his favoured 4;3;3 formation. he can use kelechi on the right wing and warn him to contribute defensively.
I hope The same lineup against north Korea will start apart from bulbwa. |
