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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:47pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Combat suite of Aradu was changed in 2001 refit. Same level with Valour frigate . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:48pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Same combat suite is in operation in the French navy with their newest firgates, their flagship and the Saudi's newest warship. So the french ripped themselves off as well? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:49pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: So how then is that relevant to the argument? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:49pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11429067 LeSudAfricaine:http://worldpremiereentertainment..com/2009/12/its-not-longer-new-thing-that-nigeria.html?m=1 Only south Africans have issues with Nigeria's influence. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 240. Furthermore, a number of the evaluation team's criticisms of the Detexis system identified aspects where the Detexis system did not comply with the baseline requirements specified in the URS (in particular, Points 1, 4, 7, 8, 10, 13 and 15). 241. The IMS was in fact (as the evaluation team found) a superior product and the Detexis system was in fact deficient and failed to comply with the URS |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Valour class was refit just now... 2015 capabilities ![]() Make stup.id arguments and I will make them too. If you wish to say they are the same, then post capabilities and compare them. Age does not define the quality of a system. Aradu has 35 year old hardware and combat suite. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:52pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nope, that combat suite is on 20 year old French warships that existed almost a decade before Valour frigates, according to your own source. FREMM frigate and Horizon are the new frontline warships of France. Only South Africa got ripped off as usual.....plus a 38 year old main gun on your new warship, $300 million frigate ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: "Are we discussing France or South-Africa?". Your combat suite did not even comply with Amscor URS. Obsolete boat for an obsolete Navy! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:54pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: And so? One product was better than another - it was also more expensive. And with reference to your first statement - do you know what URS stands for? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:56pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Same combat suite that was around when the Valour Class was selected and built. Same combat suite in operation with frances newest frigates and Carrier Same combat suite in Sauid's most advanced and newest warship |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:56pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Do you know what URS means and what requirments were stipulated? I found the source you are using (despite the fact that you wouldent post it because you knew we would see that you were posting sections out of context!) I know, and I know you have been posting trash again. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Valour frigate refit ? Did you change the whole combat suite ? Show us proof ! Sources say you changed old engine, is diesel engine your combat suite ? Olodo Rabata ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:57pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain:[b] 241.2 furthermore, the combat suite based on Detexis system is essentially a hard-wired point-to-point solution rather than being bus-based and its potential for growth and upgrading is thus severely curtailed; this being directly contrary to the SAN's own formally stated RFO requirement; [DT1-0321.pdf] 241.3 the Detexis system does not provide synchronised clocks for the time-stamping of data; 241.4 the transfer capability of the Detexis system is only 165 bytes in 6,5 milliseconds, which falls far short of the capability required by the URS (4 000 bytes in not more than 5 milliseconds); 241.5 the Detexis system's node-to-node synchronisation accuracy is at best only of the order of 10 milliseconds (10 000 microseconds), contrary to the 500 microseconds in a worst-case scenario as specified in the URS - a factor of 20 times worse. In fact, the end-to-end synchronisation accuracy of the combat suite based on the Detexis system will be considerably worse than 10 milliseconds due to its hard-wired component. This accuracy is critical to the combat suite's air defence function;[/b] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:58pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Ok You have shown that there are better systems - which cost more money You have shown that the URS were changed while the project developed. Now, show: 1. How does this relate to your allegation that it is obsolete? 2. How does this make the Valour Class inferior to anything in your arsenal? As usual, you displace stunning cognitive dissonance |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:59pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: My point exactly SHOW US PROOF OF ARADU COMBAT SUITE REFIT!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You will eat humble pie this evening. I'll continue feeding you humble pie...... you want to mess with a Nigerian abi? ![]() ![]() The source is available for all to see. It isn't hidden. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:03pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: You can post all the testimony you want, it proves none of your allegations. Now show: 1. How does this relate to your allegation that it is obsolete? 2. How does this make the Valour Class inferior to anything in your arsenal? As usual, you displace stunning cognitive dissonance |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Are you daft? A boat that doesn't meet the basic requirements of the buyer is obsolete. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:06pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: No. It does not meet certain requirements that were changed due to a multitude of reasons: from cost, % domestic design, manufacturers issues etc If the navy started with unrealistic requirements, and then had to curtail requirements due to cost and availability of platforms, it doeskin mean what you got is obsolete Now, show: 1. How does this relate to your allegation that it is obsolete? 2. How does this make the Valour Class inferior to anything in your arsenal? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:06pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You and I have argued this last year and I proved it all, I updated it on wikipedia and showed my sources to EVERYBODY on this thread last year, Harpoon databases and Spanish navy ships website. I see no need for a repeat, "In 2001, another refit (with American assistance) was undertaken, and the ship returned to operation. The obsolete AWS 5 radar and PHS sonar were replaced with a Signaal STIR (I/J/K) 60 nm/120 km fire control (range, bearing, altitude), DA-08 90 nm/180 km air (search, track) as well as an Atlas EA80 20 nm/40 km passive anti-submarine sonar (bearing, class), in addition to these, all other systems including weapons were cleaned, overhauled and put in good working order." Now you show us proof of new combat suite in Valour frigate, that you have removed the 20 year old navionics...show proof ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 241.6 the real-time performance of the Detexis system is deficient due to its employing the Transmission Control Protocol/ Internet Protocol ("TCP/IP" ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:08pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Ok, now compare that to the valour class combat suite shall we? You ready? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:09pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Again, you are posting incomplete testimony from an anti-arms deal critic. Now show: 1. How does this relate to your allegation that it is obsolete? 2. How does this make the Valour Class inferior to anything in your arsenal? As usual, you displace stunning cognitive dissonance |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nope, your source says old La Fayette frigate, meaning same combat suite on a 20 year old obsolete French warship. La Feyette has been relegated to back stage by new FREMM frigate, La Fayette is NOT the newest ship of France, it's the FREMM frigate you dummy ! ![]() http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/fremm/ Your own source led you into s.uicide mode on a happy weekend like this ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:11pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Same combat suite that was around when the Valour Class was selected and built. Same combat suite in operation with frances newest frigates and Carrier If the 20 year old La Fayette is obsolete... what is the Aradu... allmost TWICE as old!! And the La Fayette remains the newest FRIGATE in the French Navy as they deem the FREEM they have in service to be a DESTROYER Read what I said befor starting stu.pid arguments |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Get ready for some more humble pie! Open wide boy....... I want to feed you more humble pies. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:14pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: The new french ship is FREMM not La Fayette http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/fremm/ Aradu is a 1980 warship with 2001 refit new combat suite. Valour frigate has 1996 combat suite and 38 year old scrap-yard gun. Aradu and Valour frigate struggle with same generation of combat suites. France is far ahead. Stop this fooooooolish suiiiiicide argument, you lost ! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:16pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: By posting testimony from an anti-arms deal critic? Do you understand what the term BIASED means? Post all you want, until you answer my 2 questions your posts are largely irrelevant |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:16pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Henry120: His stomach is already bursting, he needs Andrews Liver salt. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain:[b] 241.7 the Detexis system attempts to achieve system reliability by means of a combination of dual-redundant, dual-homed Fast Ethernet switches, duplicated Network Interface Cards ("NICs" ![]() 241.7.1 the use of duplicated NICs is undesirable since hardware is doubled and each NIC requires the processing resources of its host, which is limited; 241.7.2 data packet duplication and selection is a potentially dangerous redundancy mechanism in mission-critical systems, since it violates the atomic commitment principle, namely that data transactions should either complete successfully ("commit" ![]() ![]() 242. The Detexis system also failed to comply with the requirements of the NSR quoted above in the following respects : 242.1 in the Detexis system the combat suite as a whole is not "based on" an architecture using a databus. Only the CMS component of the combat suite utilises a databus. The CMS in turn connects to the rest of the combat suite by multiple point-to-point (or hard-wired) links; and 242.2 the databus in the Detexis system is thus not a "multirole" databus, since it provides functionality to the CMS only and cannot provide clock synchronisation nor timestamping services nor bulk data transfer services to the combat suite, those being inter alia the functionalities of the databus specified by the URS (Para. 7.1.1 thereof); 242.3 the combat suite architecture based on the Detexis system is essentially a point-to-point system and such a system cannot be described as "Mordern".[/b] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:18pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: FREMM is technically a frigate by world expert ratings... http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/fremm/ . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You are unbelievable naive! |
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