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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:01am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: No This is literally his opinion. The opinion of a man who was subsequently destroyed on the stand |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:01am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: All his opinion and lies. It is difficult to remain calm when someone is constantly posting absolute nonsense for no reason whatsoever. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:50am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120:Source? You'll start crying when I provide you with real facts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:17am On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: His crying!! But I won't stop force feeding him humble pie. 1. A-Darter: Ordered. A. Denel Dynamics has received a production contract for the A-Darter fifth-generation air-to-air missile from Armscor, which covers the production of missiles for the South African Air Force over the next five years. Source: http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-38741/ 2. Badger IFV: Ordered A. DLS was finally awarded a contract for 238 Badger IFVs and variants for the South African National Defence Force (SANDF). Source: http://www.janes.com/article/43336/badger-nears-production-aad142 3. Skyshield upgrades: Completion 2017. A. Rheinmetall Air Defence of Switzerland is upgrading part of the South African National Defence Force’s (SANDF) twin 35mm Oerlikon GDF-005 towed anti-aircraft guns (AAG) to the latest GDF-007 standard. Conclusion: If complexion is extended it will due to the supply company not end user and money. Source: http://www.janes.com/article/43318/south-africa-to-get-upgraded-gdf-weapons-aad142 4. DM2A4 heavyweight torpedo! 5. What is "merlin"? That's because it is still in a technology demonstration phase. Conclusion: After A-Darter completion, Brazil will join! 6. OPVs: Submission will close soon, then will know the contenders. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:18am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Buhahhahahahahaha....... !!!! He's a pain in your flesh, LMFAO!!! @Agaugust, you see the emotional hurt you are causing our South-African brothers, "i'm not happy with you".... LOL! Now, apologise to Patrick. * that moment the South-Africans wish Agaugust was South-African. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:20am On Jun 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: You have no shame!! Go cry to your incompetent government. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:21am On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust:Go read the fvcking source r3tard its there |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:23am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I don't know how to say this without hurting your feelings I really, really do not want you to go into another emotional tantrum. Mr young provided indisputable facts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:25am On Jun 07, 2015 |
lezz:Go read the post i qouted then you'll understand why I said African forum. But you do have one thing very right! I don't envy Nigeria in the slightest. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:26am On Jun 07, 2015 |
lezz:Nope he just hit himself with some more bullshit. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:29am On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust:Look at this mor.on. Comparing naval guns with howitzers! This is the same emb.ecile who accused people of having inferior naval warfare knowledge. Range: 120km+ 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:34am On Jun 07, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:41pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
jln115:you ran short of ideas to disprove it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:54pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: see MikeCZAR: My statement was correct and factual,augustus typed out utter bullshit praising augubugug for trolling and basing his arguments on intentional lies and mis-information is an indication of not only the desperation you nigerians feel, but your inherently dishonest nature 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:55pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: I was talking to augbugug you illiterate clown 1. Read the post 2. Understand the post 3. Reply accordingly And with regards to Mr Young - he was overly critical because his company lost out in the contract and he was destroyed on the stand. His opinion (in testimony) is just that OPINION |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:03pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: 1. Mr Young was utterly destroyed when he took the stand. 2. There is nothing he said that says that the Valour Class is obsolete 3. He is not even talking about the combat suite as a whole - he is talking about a specific component of the combat suite (data-busses) 4. SAN requirements were adjusted according to availability of systems, acquisition costs, operational costs, life-cycle costs, training costs etc. Your Mr Young is a critic because his company got outdone by another Mr Young is only proclaiming the flaws of his competitors system and the pro's of his system. The advantages of the system we purchased and the flaws of his system were conveniently forgotten. and, yet again, I ask: Are you saying that Mr Young is right - and that all the admirals and staff of the French, South African, Saudi and Taiwanese navies are wrong? Finally, yet again I remind you, the Valor Class is not only a more modern warship than any vessel in your navy, it has capabilities that no vessel in your navy has. I love the cognitive dissonance you display when criticizing things we have and you do not. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:12pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Signaal STIR (platform dates back to at least 1988) https://books.google.co/books?id=4S3h8j_NEmkC&pg=PA267&lpg=PA267&dq=Signaal+STIR&source=bl&ots=hJUtOV1-f1&sig=ZXL1nIshZ4Jt2lUFHWx2VVLiUJg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BjN0VeGxGs2B8gW1m4PYAQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Signaal%20STIR&f=false DA-08 (platform dates back to at least 1983) http://www.helis.com/database/sys/290/ Conclusion: Combat suite in aradu is composed of hardware that is 30 years old. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:34pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
jln115:you say one thing, your actions says another. Why are you afraid , uncomfortable and unsure? With Nigeria's rise, south Africa is just a shadow. Pretoria has expressed concerns and uncertainty. Your rantings here are empty words. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:49pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Henry120: Bwhahahaha, that Mr. Young has finished t.hem o ! Everything South African is over-rated and over-estimated....over-hyped. Only God knows how many people were bribed to do that deal for the purchase of obsolete stuff Valour frigates for SAN, they can bribe anybody including FIFA.....they just destroyed the good image of world football with their ANC government's super efficient international bribery machinery, well oiled high efficiency machinery, even professional scammers across the world will now fear South African fraud projection capability across all continents . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain: That's why Henry says you are just being emotional |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: 1. A-Darter still not in service, and contract is for a 5 year period, so NO DATE as to when it will enter service, 5 years is 2015 to 2020. Still no proof of payment, no amount of money mentioned, contract on paper, no money involved. Same way SANDF signed contract for 238 Badgers and got 5 units in 15 years Every other thing remains as I said : 2. Badger IFV, only 5 units out of 238 planned, only 5 units produced in 15 years Conclusion : No money to build more 3. Skyshield under construction till 2017. Conclusion : snail slow speed, may be on till 2020 4. Heavy Torpedo, only on paper Budget Conclusion: no product name, no supplier name, no deal, no money 5. BVRAAM merlin missile. Conclusion : Project with no date for completion. Brazil NOT signed to be involved. Missile NON-EXISTENT. 6. OPV In tender Conclusion : Project Biro exists only on paper for almost 18 years, and will always be at paper stage. NO MONEY ! SAAF procurement dreams are a bunch of jokes ! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nope, according to your own source, there are different versions and generations of of STIR radars https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/netherlands/defence/stir-tracking-and-illumination-radar Dutch, British, Canadian, etc including 2002 versions, then the American version which your own source says is very different and does not tell us the date of introduction. Nigeria got the STIR radar with American input, and it's NOT the 1988 version you mentioned, that was used by Argentina. Your own source ruined your argument. Aradu STIR radar was installed by America not same as Argentina's version your claim of 30 years is wrecked by your own source . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:25pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Show me source of a naval gun with 120 km range with unguided shell. Mumu domingo |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:37pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Signaal STIR is from 1988 End of story |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:39pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. You said the order was for Brazil! I destroyed you! Now you wanna tell ask us when it will enter service A. Be afraid! 2. No Badger has been produced! Only prototypes where produced for testing purposes. A. A contract for the 200+ production vehicles was signed! Late this year or next year the SA army will take delivery of the BEST WHEELED IFV IN AFRICA! 3. Skyshield: Yes, very year until 2017 batteries, spare parts and training will be provided. A. A single battery comes with 3 Sensor systems, 6 twin barrel gun and command post! So very year the SA army will take delivery of such the systems until completion in 2017. I even went as far as correcting your post. Be afraid of the ZA! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:40pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: I love how you say all these things yet you have no proof or citations. Utter and complete bullshit (as usual) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:41pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Mr Young got finished in the stand. As usual all you Nigerians have are allegations... not a fact to be seen! And our "overhyped" frigates are better than your ZERO frigates 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:55pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. Name: OtoBreda. 127/62 A. Effective firing range: 30,000 metres. B. Maximum firing range: 120 kilometres. Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otobreda_127/64 2. Name: AGS. A. Range: 120km+ Source: http://www.baesystems.com/product/BAES_020037/advanced-gun-system-ags?_afrLoop=1958488203289000&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=null Destroyed!!!!!!!!!!! He's now shifting goal posts! Mentioning guided shells MOR.ON 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:03pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
agaugust:And here we can see Augubugubuks claim that "nobody has gun with 120km range on a ship". Only later when educated by saffers he'll change goal posts by including guided in his statement. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:14pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
NIGERIANS WILL COLLAPSE TOMORROW. FOLLOW DEFENCE NEWS TOMORROW. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jun 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Provide technical proof to show that Mr Young is wrong, and you are right. He provided sound evidence, and not this emotional post you are throwing around. The fact is clear, South-African Valour Frigates are obsolete , Sub-standard and run on an archaic combat suite far below the requirements of the South-African Navy. 1 Like |
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