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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:57pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
Henry120: As if that's gonna happen! The defence review isn't about acquiring weapons only. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:11pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
jln115: Manufacturer says 100 km maximum. Any other source must bow down to manufacturers technical specifications as final authority. Show me 120 km from the technical specs as declared by the product manufacturer! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:17pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: It's a hybrid, it has a rocket and guidance systems, it's a PGM and it's range is NOT relevant to a discussion about standard shell gun ranges. Learn to argue within context. We are talking about naval guns standard shell, not PGMs....fool Meanwhile, manufacturers technical data says maximum range for the guided version is 100 km NOT 120 km. Learn to use reliable sources, not websites like the one that says South Africa has super rapid gun when your navy says big NO ! Odenson |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
agaugust:Hahaha dude it doesnt even matter if its 100 or 120km...The fact is you never knew there were navel shells that could reach these distances. And you call yourself a military researcher!! Yet the biggest irony is the fact that you do no research whatsoever. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:43pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:BH-Big Head. Yeah Jacob Zuma's head is quite big. Thanks for clarifying. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:49pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
agaugust:Shell! Enables naval guns to reach further. And yes naval guns touch targets 120km away! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:51pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
lionel4power:Wrong. Boko Haram. Terrorism. G7. Discussed. Nigeria. New clues! Try again my student. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:55pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
Henry120: this are the most important points of the article. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:10pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
lionel4power: Defence Reveiw is not about new weapons. It is mainly about securing more funding (allmost doubling the budget) Then its about re-organizing the defence-force's structure so that it is suited for the roles we now use it in (Which have changed dramatically since the 1998 Defence Reveiw - hence the strain on the defence force) Only in the long term is it about new equipment. What you dont understand is that the current SANDF is designed and funded according to the 98 Reveiw, with no provision made for patroling foreign waters (which we now do), with provision for only one Battalion deployed internally (we now have 2 and a half soon to be 4) and with only one battalion deployed externally (we now have another 2 and a half) and no provision for a Brigade Sized standby force that has to be kept active and well fueled and supplied for rapid deployment. These extra deployments have "multiplyer" effects - as now our pre-deployment training costs have doubled and tripled, as well as deployment costs, and our maintenance costs and insurance, and support and logistics and ware and tare etc etc etc Then you consider the fact that these new costs have to be handled internally as the Treasury will not just write a blank cheque to the SANDF, so platforms that are not high priority get funds re-directed away from them and towards things that are. As you can see deployments of the current SANDF are significantly more than were envisioned under the 98 review - hence funding does not match needs. The new Defence Reveiw will redress that by bringing funding up to what is needed (it allows the Department of Treasury to release funds) and only in the medium and long term (2020-2030) does it change the composition and equipment of the SANDF Basically all you need to know is this: Under the defence reveiw, the next 5 years will be spent consolidating the SANDF and bringing existing capabilities up to full capacity 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:31am On Jun 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: jln115: Bwahahaha, there is NO 120 km naval gun, manufacturer specs data sheet is final authority and says 100 km max. You brought a guided shell that no country is using and no navy is using in this world, you brought a wrong munition into a debate,w e were talking about existing naval shells, the one you brought is NOT in use by any world navy, it's still experimental, and also, we were talking about unguided shells, yet you foolishly brought in a guided munition and mixed up analysis of unguided weapons with guided weapons, is y.our brain working ? No That's how you fail exams and score 33 % in South Africa, and remain 2nd bottom brains of the world, you cannot even debate and stay withing context of a topic, you went quoting data of a motorcycle in an argument about bicycles....Mumu Did you ever know your comment was a guided shell? No, you just copy and pasted whatever you find on internet, I am the one who educated you that you have brought a motorcycle into a debate about bicycles... Odenson Still, your source of 120 km is wrong, I exposed you Southies to the correct range of 100 km from the manufacturer's technical specification data sheet, any other source is inferior to mine. You see the difference between a military researcher and you + your mumu South African team on Nairaland ? Yes you see the difference " Technical Specifications: Amuunition Configuration Guided Long range (GLR) Up to 100 km Autonomous IMU+GPS Guidance Precise Shore Bombardment firing " Source (Manufacturers's website) :http://www.otomelara.it/documents/1287567/3805766/body_VULCANO_127mm_REV2013.pdf Range is 100 km, shell does not exist in any navy, it's experiemental, and it's not a normal shell, it's a guided munition. Now say thank you to Nigerian education, we give you for free, because it's beyond your reach . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:36am On Jun 09, 2015 |
lionel4power: Patchesagain: Okay, Nigerians have now interpreted the contents of South African Defence Review ansd educated you today, so you have now cancelled your story about buying tons and tons of new weapons from a paper review as if it is money, well done, mumu. Wishy-Washy 3rd class Southie educational background is an epidemic in your country . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:16am On Jun 09, 2015 |
agaugust: Read my post Understand my post Then comment. The day you dreaded has come: The defense review has been passed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:07am On Jun 09, 2015 |
A dual service drill was held between the army nd navy in kaduna spanning a period of three days. involving endurance and advanced trench warfare recon plus surveillance and inter comm provides by a cessna surveillance aircraft. IED course,diffusion and detection.. advanced use of recoiless guns etc. courtesy A I T. This is the first time i'm hearing that Nigeria has a cessna surveillance plane. So in addition to the ATR-42, Beechraft and Diamond DA42 the Nigerian Airforce also operates Cessna surveillance aircrafts.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:21am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Henry120:"Advanced trench warfare" Anyway such surveillance aircraft have ground stations. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:27am On Jun 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Mumu! There is always a GCS for collation of data you retarrd. How do you think Data is transferred? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:15am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Henry120: le citation required |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:16am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Henry120: For 10 points: What is a datalink!?! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:34am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Already provided. AIT news. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:37am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I was explaining to that soweto retarrd in lay man's terms. Nigeria is the only country in SSA that has operational data links. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:49am On Jun 09, 2015 |
Henry120: No, you have some data-link enabled platforms. You dont have a military wide datalink. This guy, thinking a data-link enabled platform is the samething as a military geared for net-centric warfare. You guys are about 20 years behind us. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:49am On Jun 09, 2015 |
agaugust:dude you didnt even know there were guided shells, you even brought the G6 into your argument to some how prove that navel guns cant even shoot further than 73km. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:31pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You mean we should dread paper reports? Is your paper defence review a weapon, a missile? Hilarious I would rather dread an armed robber on the street of Cape Town than a paper review of SANDF decline . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:36pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
jln115: ....because the argument was about unguided shells, and you quoted a wrong type of weapon, you brought a motorcycle into a bicycle argument, I wonder how you entered university with a brain that cannot debate withing context of a topic....you cannot even stay on a subject matter and debate it, you turn the whole arena into a confused mumbo jumbo mix up....33% Soweto brain. I was the one who told you they were guided shells, you mixed oil with water in a clean argument....Fool Thank me for letting you know that : 1. It is a guided shell 2. The range is max 100 km NOT 120 km 3. Debates are meant to be focused on a topic and it's context....basic secondary school education |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:38pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: SANDF datalinks do not work full spectrum, NOT all equipment is integrated, the plan was to do it stage by stage. Also, in Sub-Saharan Africa, only Nigeria has been proved to use operational datalink that works 24/7 . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 1:41pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain:yet u have the most friendly fire in SSA with that ur data link,du11ard 0f cape t0wn. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 1:42pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain:yet u have the most friendly fire in Africa with that ur data link,du11ard 0f cape t0wn. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Henry120: Nigerian air force is the ISTAR master of Africa, nobody comes close, NOT even Egypt or Algeria. NAF ISTAR standard is as good as many NATO powers, reason why they could not do what we had not done when the RAF and USAF ISTAR aircraft came to search for Chibok girls, they went away empty handed. The Nigerian ISTAR force has aircraft with 2014 state of the art technology from USA, Italy, Austria, Germany. South Africa is 66 years behind us ! . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 1:44pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain:yet u have the most friendly fire in Africa with that ur data link,du11ard 0f cape t0wn,eeh augugust wetin our police men dey call am again?. accidental discharge! lol......... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:54pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
Nigerian girls 3-3 with Sweden. FIFA female world cup. That Asisat girl is driving me nuts....Am gonna go 4 dat gurl |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
agaugust:Dude!! Who said the argument was only about guided shells? I said naval guns can shoot 120km/100km with Vulcano guided projectiles you said NO naval gun can shoot those ranges, only after I proved you wrong did you change your argument and your post saying you were talking about unguided shells. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:16pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
agaugust: Empty words 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jun 09, 2015 |
PrinxArthur1:Friendly fire? WTF are you talking about bru? |
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