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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:42pm On Jun 09, 2015
raumdeuter:


WHich question? You mean if Hazard assists a goal I would suddenly formulate my own rules to say he didnt assist?
stop running around. Would u hv agreed or defended dis point had it bn hazard instead messi. It wont take anytin away 4rm u if u ansa d question sincerely. Dnt lie to urself.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:47pm On Jun 09, 2015
Greatihex:
stop running around. Would u hv agreed or defended dis point had it bn hazard instead messi. It wont take anytin away 4rm u if u ansa d question sincerely. Dnt lie to urself.

This is an extremely stupidd question.

If UEFA says Hazard has an assist why would I argue that he doesnt. Only Chelsea fans do such
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 8:09pm On Jun 09, 2015
raumdeuter:


I see it as a reorg. In the making of a mega party, there would be shakeups here and there. The play in Local politics would be different in National

Tinubu should have given one to gain the other. Maybe given Senate for Speaker or vice versa

Interesting. . .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:16pm On Jun 09, 2015
raumdeuter:


This is an extremely stupidd question.

If UEFA says Hazard has an assist why would I argue that he doesnt. Only Chelsea fans do such
u knw exactly wat i mean, just dat u dnt want to b sincere wt urself. Wel, i wl just hold it here. Bt, try and learn how to be more truthful wt urself and free ur mind, than trying nt to look as if u lost.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:27pm On Jun 09, 2015
nitlad:


Interesting. . .

There were several players that made APC win the national elections. The Buhari factor, the Tinubu factor, the Atiku camp these are 3 major camps

If Buhari camp produced number 1, Tinubu produced number 2, Atiku cant just sit down there after bankrolling the party and let them share everything

As you know Bukola is the Atiku leg of the tripod

When you are going to the center and unseating a sitting president, Alliances and concession would have to be made

I think this was to checkmate all 3 gladiators so one part wont have overwhelming influence on the other

Its good for the politics

Enough politics now back to why Hazard suck and cant score nor assist

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:29pm On Jun 09, 2015
June done almost finish, these guys no want sign anybody.

By this time last year we done sign Costa, Fab4 and Luis

Make dem give us something na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:34pm On Jun 09, 2015
Ibime:
Not interested in Vidal. He is not a pivot player. His game is for 3 man midfield. Besides Ramires has spoiled my appetite for "off the ball runners". I want niggas that want the ball to feet.

The question here is does JM want to play with 3 ninjahs in midfield that want the ball to feet? JM will not play possession football.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:42pm On Jun 09, 2015
nateevs:


The question here is does JM want to play with 3 ninjahs in midfield that want the ball to feet? JM will not play possession football.

It's not even about possession football.

I like Vidals robustness but I want one who is also more comfortable in possession ie Axel Witsel.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 11:13pm On Jun 09, 2015
so Hazard can dominate Dayo's posts? Is Dayo a stan or what?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:19pm On Jun 09, 2015
Maduks88:

Noted.
Without penalties his goal stats in UCL is poor so is Ribery's and Iniesta's.
Ribery - 1 CL 2 Finals
Iniesta - 4 CLs

No room for comparison

Maduks88:

From this season overall performance I disagree
Barcelona - Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Rakitic

Madrid - Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Hames

Bayern - Robben, Lewandowski, Mueller (I no even include Ribery because he didn't play enough games)

Juve - Tevez,

Abeg the list is very long. I blame it on EPL's low standard this year.

Maduks88:

Thomas Muller also HAD d potential.
World Champion, UCL Champion, World Cup Silver Ball. He is living up to the billing over to Hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:26pm On Jun 09, 2015
A40:


World Champion, UCL Champion, World Cup Silver Ball. He is living up to the billing over to Hazard

World cup golden boot, Best young player of tmhe world cup, 10 world cup goals at age 25, 5th position Balon D or, 28 CL goals

To mention a few

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AbuMikey(m): 11:34pm On Jun 09, 2015
raumdeuter:


World cup golden boot, Best young player of the world cup, 10 world cup goals at age 25, 5th Balon D or 28 CL goals



To mention a few


You say what?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tval(m): 12:01am On Jun 10, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWbuB1U1VMc
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:55am On Jun 10, 2015
"In other seasons, I was very happy to sell a few
players - even good ones - but this year I'm not happy
to sell my best players so the real challenge is to keep
them," the Portuguese is quoted in the Mirror .
"If I keep [Eden] Hazard, [Nemanja] Matic, [Branislav]
Ivanovic, Diego Costa and [Cesc] Fabregas, that's the
first target.
"I think we need three players - a striker, because we
lost our legend [Drogba], a defender and a midfielder to
give a little more competitiveness to the squad, bring
some new blood in and put some of the team a little
bit under pressure.
"They need to know there is someone waiting to take
their place - now they are the champions, I need that
to sustain my way of working. But basically, I want to
keep the same players, the same squad, the same
manager, and bring stability to the club."




Baba has named his untouchables, but no willian?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:17am On Jun 10, 2015
SailorXY:
research! ~ this shiit is magic ~

Aint magic hombre, the body that ran the report, the Football Observatory, is a research group from the International Centre for Sports Studies (CIES) with staff 'specialised in the statistical analysis of football'. They have undertaken research for FIFA and UEFA.

This document www.football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/mr06_eng.pdf considers the following before coming to monetary value:-

• Player's age
• Length of contract
• Level of personal achievement
• Clubs achievements and results.
• Performance

Once all the calculations had been done, Hazard came in second ahead of Ronaldo and behind Leo Messi.

Their transfer values being worked out at:-

• Messi - somewhere between £255.3 million and £280.8 million
• Hazard - somewhere between £135.4 million and £148.9 million.
• Ronaldo - somewhere between £113.3 million and £124.7 million.

IMO, age, performance and length of contract are probably areas Hazard owned Ronaldo. Although the latter tend to find the net more, his general performance hasn't been sublime. He kinda suffered a dip in form, the goals are merely serving as a compensation.

Funny enough, a seasoned forum analyst believes that Hazard isn't among the top 20 players in the world, listing mediocres like Boa-TONG ahead of him cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:52am On Jun 10, 2015
Ibime:
June done almost finish, these guys no want sign anybody.

By this time last year we done sign Costa, Fab4 and Luis

Make dem give us something na

I believe there are ongoing negotiations, ones that have been hidden away from the glare of the media.

It's just June, we still have July to do business.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Maduks88(m): 8:04am On Jun 10, 2015
A40:

Ribery - 1 CL 2 Finals
Iniesta - 4 CLs

No room for comparison
I only named two very good players with poor ucl goal stat.

A40:

Barcelona - Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Rakitic

Madrid - Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Hames

Bayern - Robben, Lewandowski, Mueller (I no even include Ribery because he didn't play enough games)

Juve - Tevez,

Abeg the list is very long. I blame it on EPL's low standard this year.
Rakitic,Benzema,Bale, Muller,,Lewandowski? I give up
A40:

World Champion, UCL Champion, World Cup Silver Ball. He is living up to the billing over to Hazard
I'm not making any comparison just saying muller also HAD the potential to be world best player but no longer has it.The 5th in balond'or is the best he would ever be.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:06pm On Jun 10, 2015
Me- 5 CUP GOALS FOR MY DEPARTMENT
NEYMAR - 0 GOALS FOR MY DEPARTMENT IN ALL COMP


BUT HATERS WILL SAY NEYMAR IS NOT IN MY DEPARTMENT

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 12:12pm On Jun 10, 2015
Champions league team of the season has been complied, a list largely occupied by barcelona and juventus players and has only one premier league representative , the player, a defender by the name Brainslav Ivanovic our dear chelsea defenderwink

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 12:27pm On Jun 10, 2015
Looool Bane made it into the Uefa team of the season.

That terry Cahill Ivan combo goal really doing things grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:33pm On Jun 10, 2015
As expected la liga killed EPL again, we have to kill it next season.......... United and city must do something, arsenal? Abacha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 2:54pm On Jun 10, 2015
Maduks88:

I only named two very good players with poor ucl goal stat.
And like I said in my previous posts. Their performance in the biggest matches and their titles won is an alibi for that. What is Hazard's alibi? Don't tell me age because all the people you guys love to compare him with were either Champions or had at least made impact waaaaay before his age

Maduks88:

Rakitic,Benzema,Bale, Muller,,Lewandowski? I give up
I blame the low standard of the EPL.

I would name 20 players better than Hazard easily. Go and watch Barcelona and see how Rakitic makes them tick.

Bale with 17 goals and 11 assists from open play is regarded as a flop this year while Hazard with 19 goals (5-6 penalties) and 13 assists is being hailed, that simply tells you the difference and who is held at a higher standard

The other players are self-explanatory I wouldn't even bother with that. Lewandowski, Mueller and Benz are not Eden Ikedia's mates

Maduks88:

I'm not making any comparison just saying muller also HAD the potential to be world best player but no longer has it.The 5th in balond'or is the best he would ever be.
Mueller is playing in an era with Ronaldo and Messi in their peak. Even the Balon D'Or is now so infatuated with the latter two that they win the awards in years they don't deserve it.

Guys like Figo, Romario, Rivaldo, Cannavaro even Zidane might not have 3 WPOTY if they played now

We saw FIFA give Messi Golden Shoe award when even his countrymen unanimously agreed he didn't deserve it.

Sneijder was the MVP in world football for 2010 he didn't win it.

Ronaldo finished trophyless in 2013 but still ended up with the award. I don't care about personal laurels so long as Mueller wins Euro's next year to complete the sweep of winning every major title that's good enough for me

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On Jun 10, 2015
Maduks88:

I'm not making any comparison just saying muller also HAD the potential to be world best player but no longer has it.The 5th in balond'or is the best he would ever be.

Muller is one year older than Hazard. He was 5th in Balond'or at 25. Hazard would be 25yrs by the next Balon D or ceremony.

WHat Muller has achieved by 20 Hazard hasnt made it by 24

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:55pm On Jun 10, 2015
Mehn this is becoming way too childish!

A40 and raumdeuter can you guys PLEASE stop this Hazard thing?!

You believe Hazard is a flop. We the 'ignorant Chelsea fans' believe Hazard is a god.

Can we just leave it like that: each one to his own opinion. No one can convince the other so please JUST STOP ALREADY!

Haba! Must you guys quote or reply any mention that has to with Hazard? Why not ignore some so that this topic die a natural death.

I come here hoping to get some transfer news or other educative debates but to my dismay, each time I come in here it's Hazard this Hazard that. It's not encouraging abeg.

Make una just stop biko.

But if you guys still want to continue the Hazard talk, just mention the person you're arguing with in Bayern thread and continue the arguments there.

Thank you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Jun 10, 2015
^^ I am here to correct ignorant posters. As long as I dont see any senseless comparison of Hazard with his superiors

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:08pm On Jun 10, 2015
The persistent "corrections" is becoming too childish. Maturity is the ability to know when to talk and when to silently ignore... Afterall silence, they say, is golden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:12pm On Jun 10, 2015
Meanwhile what's up with Victor Moss? I keep forgetting he is still our player cheesy

Is he coming back or going for another loan spell? Or will he be sold entirely?

For me, I'll say sell him and raise funds for any incoming signing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 5:19pm On Jun 10, 2015
timbros:
Meanwhile what's up with Victor Moss? I keep forgetting he is still our player cheesy

Is he coming back or going for another loan spell? Or will he be sold entirely?

For me, I'll say sell him and raise funds for any incoming signing.

I think Stoke are keeping him.... They have been talking about it since January
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:20pm On Jun 10, 2015
mithel:


I think Stoke are keeping him.... They have been talking about it since January

Yea.

I just read somewhere that Stoke is waiting on the wings to know Chelsea's decision before making a move.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:21pm On Jun 10, 2015
timbros:
Mehn this is becoming way too childish!

A40 and raumdeuter can you guys PLEASE stop this Hazard thing?!

You believe Hazard is a flop. We the 'ignorant Chelsea fans' believe Hazard is a god.

Can we just leave it like that: each one to his own opinion. No one can convince the other so please JUST STOP ALREADY!

Haba! Must you guys quote or reply any mention that has to with Hazard? Why not ignore some so that this topic die a natural death.

I come here hoping to get some transfer news or other educative debates but to my dismay, each time I come in here it's Hazard this Hazard that. It's not encouraging abeg.

Make una just stop biko.

But if you guys still want to continue the Hazard talk, just mention the person you're arguing with in Bayern thread and continue the arguments there.

Thank you.
I was done with the argument last week. Maduks88 chose to engage me and brought forward a decent argument so I saw no reason to ignore him. Hazard is not a Bayern player so why should I reroute arguments to the Bayern thread? Its a Chelsea related topic
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elampiro(m): 6:29pm On Jun 10, 2015
coogar:


you should also send this link to elampiro. i have always told him that UEFA/EPL count such stuff as assists even when opta do not recognise rebounds as assists.


And you think I am just getting to know this?

coogar:


UEFA counted assist for tevez & messi but opta did not count it for them. i think it won't be long when there would be a universal rule for what constitutes an assist. if a player is brought down in the box that resulted into a scored penalty, EPL counts it as an assist but opta does not.


There is no confusion. You are the confusion.

I think you should take my advise I have given you over time that you should be consistent with your source of Assist data (whether OPTA or EPL/EUFA) and stick with it throughout the length of an argument, and even if you were to switch from opta to another, you should make it very clear that you have switched.

It doesn't make sense after having used opta for several pages, then I say 'PLAYER A' has 12 Assists, you will come to say'player B,C,D,E' have 18 Assists each without stating the fact that you have switched from opta to grandnut and kuilikuili data.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Hazardd(m): 6:34pm On Jun 10, 2015
jose mourinho have been banned from driving for 6months for over speeding

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