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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by chebeoc(m): 11:40pm On Jun 14, 2015
If south westerners can understand that the reason many tribes are in lagos is because of seaport and int' airport and all these are federal government properties built with nigerian money, but sometimes some guys brag that their leaders are mini gods that's why people are flocking to their region. minus these two federal properties and lagos 'll be like any other state in nigeria. And your states don't have to employ 90% of her population before you knew that your governors are working, you guys can think outside the box, everyone can't work for government. it's pure laziness for people to sit down without contributing anything to her state after 30days he'll started crying no salary.The govenor from anambra state is paying salaries and have other projects, not because he's too intelligent but because people from there don't care about government jobs. they create jobs for themselves, so government have least workers to pay and have some money for other projects.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by dokyOloye: 11:44pm On Jun 14, 2015
AlfaSeltzer:
shut up or declare your odua republic
lazy cowards
they are fast learning almajiri behaviour from their northern masters.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by nonaira: 12:03am On Jun 15, 2015
chebeoc:
If south westerners can understand that the reason many tribes are in lagos is because of seaport and int' airport and all these are federal government properties built with nigerian money, but sometimes some guys brag that their leaders are mini gods that's why people are flocking to their region. minus these two federal properties and lagos 'll be like any other state in nigeria. And your states don't have to employ 90% of her population before you knew that your governor is working, you guys can think outside the box, everyone can't work for government. it's pure laziness for people to sit down without contributing anything to her state after 30days he'll started crying no salary.The govenor from anambra state is paying salaries and have other projects, not because he's too intelligent but because people from there don't care about government jobs. they create jobs for themselves, so government have least workers to pay and have some money for other projects.

Truth

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by fr3do(m): 2:41am On Jun 15, 2015
Oil dug out from SS and SE is for everybody but cocoa and tomato harvested is not, why?

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by ideykwum: 3:47am On Jun 15, 2015
I actually think you are the one that lacks intelligence! The guy made a valid point, and you also made a valid point on the issue of wear and tear! Since you can't pretend to having data on which ethnic group pays the most taxes (directly or indirectly), it behoves an intelligent man to keep quiet or find facts!

chinchum:
Intelligence is not your strength. Population puts wear /tear on infrastructures (roads,schools,hospitals,markets e.t.c) waste management/disposal, increase traffic issues e.t.c, especially when the bulk of the population is not taxable. How many chukwudis in Lagos pay tax?

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by mauriceju2(m): 6:01am On Jun 15, 2015
Who patronizes the Lagos Sea Port? = SE traders.(Igbo traders)
Niger Delter oil is traded through Lagos Sea Port . is Igbo traders that use this port for business and the Niger Delter oil that is being ship through that port that make the billions that you are hearing about, without Igbo and Niger Delter Yoruba and Hausa are doom , they know this very well that is why Yoruba will never allow another port to function in Nigeria, Hausa man will scream if he hear that Niger Delter and Igbo want to cut off from Nigeria. Oil price is down and many of their state cannot pay salary again tell me what will happen if oil production is reduce to zero jet they keep on boasting instead of accepting the fact that they are lazy parasite, it is very clear that the Igbo’s can survive without oil but Yoruba and Hausa cannot

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:05am On Jun 15, 2015
EzeUche:
The Niger Delta should get 100% of its oil revenue.

They should not have to share with anyone.

Then Lagos too should get 100% of its ports and VAT revenue and then heavily tax every non lagosian currently utilising its infrastructure. Simple. Lets see who will be richer.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:09am On Jun 15, 2015
[quote author=chebeoc can't work for government. it's pure laziness for people to sit down without contributing anything to her state after 30days he'll started crying no salary.The govenor from anambra state is paying salaries and have other projects, not because he's too intelligent but because people from there don't care about government jobs. they create jobs for themselves, so government have least workers to pay and have some money for other projects.[/quote]

Your logic is terribly warped, so FG did not invest a kobo in oil exoloration in the Niger Delta, what about the four ports at Onne, port harcourt, Calabar and warri? Those ones are used for what?

You people are delusional....Lagos should also ask for 100% share of its VAT and port revenue, if you dont like it go and use your Oyel to develop your ports and your region nobody begged you to use Lagos ports...shikena.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:16am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Then Lagos too should get 100% of its ports and VAT revenue and then heavily tax every non lagosian currently utilising its infrastructure. Simple. Lets see who will be richer.
Let's implement it and I give you two years let's see who will be making use of the Lagos ports. You forget ports are built and are not natural resources

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:20am On Jun 15, 2015
mauriceju2:
Who patronizes the Lagos Sea Port? = SE traders.(Igbo traders)
Niger Delter oil is traded through Lagos Sea Port . is Igbo traders that use this port for business and the Niger Delter oil that is being ship through their state cannot pay salary again tell me what will happen if oil production is reduce to zero jet they keep on boasting instead of accepting the fact that they are lazy parasite, it is very clear that the Igbo’s can survive without oil but Yoruba and Hausa cannot
You are wrong oil is mainly exoorted through port harcourt and warri ports, Lagos handles mainly oil imports for domestic consumption, now it i clearly obvious that the south west will survive and live well without your oyel after all the total allocation that the south west receives as allocation is less than 10% of the total revenue generated from the west, let me ask a question how much exactly does the south east contribute to the federal pool? How much do they get? An answer to that question will clearly reveal who the parasites are.

Ports and VAT revenue alone dwarfs the revenue from oyel.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:23am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:

You are wrong oil is mainly exoorted through port harcourt and warri ports, Lagos handles mainly oil imports for domestic consumption, now it i clearly obvious that the south west will survive and live well without your oyel after all the total allocation that the south west receives as allocation is less than 10% of the total revenue generated from the west, let me ask a question how much exactly does the south east contribute to the federal pool? How much do they get? An answer to that question will clearly reveal who the parasites are.

Ports and VAT revenue alone dwarfs the revenue from oyel.

Lol these people would never cease to amaze me Really? Ports revenue bigger than that of oil? Please tell me something.
To your last question,3 of the5 south east states have oyel. You don hear baa

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:24am On Jun 15, 2015
chukwudi44:

Let's implement it and I give you two years let's see who will be making use of the Lagos ports. You forget ports are built and are not natural resources

Ok lets do that....since you people have been shouting "our oyel" have u heard south west lose a second's sleep, when some street urchins asked a particular group to leave Lagos who cried?

Thats to show you who is gonna cry, the truth is those ports will still be functional and generating revenue years after your oyel has become totally worthless.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Xyg12: 6:24am On Jun 15, 2015
whitecat1:
Hmm! Lagos puts in more than it gets!

This is the reason why SE that is less than the size of Oyo state wants more empty states and the rest of the country will be dumb to grant that!


For equity, states should be equalled then, true federalism.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:25am On Jun 15, 2015
chukwudi44:


Lol these people would never cease to amaze me Really? Ports revenue bigger than that of oil? Please tell me something

Port plus VAT, not only port. Now google is your friend. A Lot of developed countries depends on taxes and not oyel.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:27am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Ok lets do that....since you people have been shouting "our oyel" have u heard south west lose a second's sleep, when some street urchins asked a particular group to leave Lagos who cried?

Thats to show you who is gonna cry, the truth is those ports will still be functional and generating revenue years after your oyel has become totally worthless.
Oil money has not even been withdrawn and osun and Oyo are already dying of hunger. I wonder what will happen when the oil revenues are totally withdrawn

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:30am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Port plus VAT, not only port. Now google is your friend. A Lot of developed countries depends on taxes and not oyel.
We are talking about Nigeria not lot of developed countries!!!! Nigerian economy is all about oil revenues that is why the fall in oil prices is making hunger to deal with people in osun and oyo.If ports and VAT revenues were as much as you said, the effect of the fall in oil prices would not be that noticeable

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Xyg12: 6:32am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Then Lagos too should get 100% of its ports and VAT revenue and then heavily tax every non lagosian currently utilising its infrastructure. Simple. Lets see who will be richer.


Going by your argument, more sea port should be created from PH, Calabar etc for import and export of petroleum product so that Lagos will keep her 100% port and VAT revenue .

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:41am On Jun 15, 2015
chukwudi44:

Oil money has not even been withdrawn and osun and Oyo are already dying of hunger. I wonder what will happen when the oil revenues are totally withdrawn

If oil revenue is removed, then 100% VAT and port revenue will be retained in the south west, there fore OYO and Osun will be getting at least 5 times more money than they are currently getting. Savvy?

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:44am On Jun 15, 2015
Xyg12:



Going by your argument, more sea port should be created from PH, Calabar etc for import and export of petroleum product so that Lagos will keep her 100% port and VAT revenue .

No need to create more ports, they are already in existence all you need to do is make them more functional, simple. It will become clear to you that building ports is easy attracting requisite business is the real deal.

Lagos ports is viable because of its proximity to industries, if those ports must function you will need to industrialise the south south first. Oyel is over rated. It will soin become clear to you.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 6:48am On Jun 15, 2015
chukwudi44:

We are talking about Nigeria not lot of developed countries!!!! Nigerian economy is all about oil revenues that is why the fall in oil prices is making hunger to deal with people in osun and oyo.If ports and VAT revenues were as much as you said, the effect of the fall in oil prices would not be that noticeable

Nigeria VAT rate is currently the lowest in the world, if this government embark on aggressive tax reforms, revenue from taxes and import duties will dwarf oil revenue. Oil has done more harm than good to the economy, taxes are a more sustainable way of developing the economy.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:51am On Jun 15, 2015
Hammefeez:

“Yet some morons will tell me we live on Niger Delta oil.”
“Now, my State Governor can’t pay his workers because of this systemic injustice.
It is better we start the implementation of regional based fiscal federalism now.


You are contradicting yourself.


First you claim you don't depend on ND oil next thing you are calling the 13% derivation to oil producing states as unfair to you that does not produce a single drop of crude.

Now we know your stance on resource control.

You threatening non Yorubas to leave Lagos but at the same time you want our oil.

You should be aware that population figures are what is used in sharing the oil money so if you ask us to leave you should expect a drop in whatever illegal share you get.
You complain of Kano's share compared to that of Lagos, where were you when Jega gave Kano the highest PVC?

You see how confused you are?

Better start planting cocoa because when we leave let me see which oil money you go chop.

Parasite

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by HiGod: 6:52am On Jun 15, 2015
EzeUche:
The Niger Delta should get 100% of its oil revenue.

They should not have to share with anyone.

And they must remain in their region.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:54am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


If oil revenue is removed, then 100% VAT and port revenue will be retained in the south west, there fore OYO and Osun will be getting at least 5 times more money than they are currently getting. Savvy?

You are really deceiving yourself


Once we leave Nigeria expect your economy to collapse.

Once we leave this useless parasitic state expect us to build our ports in Akwa Ibom, Calabar, PH and Warri.

You have nothing.

At the end of the day it will be a semi illiterate northerner that will manage your port and you will be lucky if you see a dime.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:55am On Jun 15, 2015
Very valid points op.. but as expected, the people with tiny brains will attack you rather than present constructive argument
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 6:56am On Jun 15, 2015
HiGod:


And they must remain in their region.

You yorubas sef?

When will you get sense.

You want your cake at the same time u want to eat it.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 7:14am On Jun 15, 2015
chinchum:
Lagos ports + VAT (13% derivation) will triple FG allocation to Lagos state.


And you think we don't have a larger coastline in the SS than you?

If not for you and the north frustrating port development in the SS who will use that your congested port?

Igbos import more goods into this country than any other people and u want them to leave Lagos.

If they leave will port activities not drop significantly in Lagos?

If we are allowed to develop our coastline on the SS do you think Igbos will use your Lagos port again?

The 13% VAT you are shouting for is linked to business activities by all Nigerians including Igbos and ND people resident in your parasitic region.

You complain of Kano getting more not realising that the skewed census figures which you unknowingly supported when Jega gave more PVC to the north is what is used to share VAT.

Yorubas should be grateful for Nigeria because this is the zenith of your civilization and it was based on a parasitic economy

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 7:17am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Nigeria VAT rate is currently the lowest in the world, if this government embark on aggressive tax reforms, revenue from taxes and import duties will dwarf oil revenue. Oil has done more harm than good to the economy, taxes are a more sustainable way of developing the economy.

Mumu.

Tax revenue is the only guarantee IGR for a state and it is linked to commercial activities and population.

Once we leave Lagos let me see how you will Tax a business man in Rivers to fund your parasitic economy and state.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by HiGod: 7:18am On Jun 15, 2015
truefact:

Stop ranting. ...Declare your sophisticated ritualistic and incest progressive republic. ..let hear word...I know cowards always have silly excuses

You are the most dumbest Nigerian after Ojukwu. The people you called Cowards killed and maimed your progenitors like animals during the civil war which informed why you are miserable.

The same people you called Cowards are the ones feeding half of Igbo population as at today.

The same people are the ones paying for d free education which all Igbos' children in south west are enjoying today.

You fools run to the same people region in millions for your survival.

All your millionaires and billionaires can't do without south west while opposite is the case with South West millionaires and billionaires.

They are far ahead of your region cos it's obvious in Yorubas' attitude towards South east; they hardly come to the East since they are way ahead economically. Humans naturally migrate to where their lives could be better not the other way round.

The Universities in South west region are the only Nigeria Universities except Uniben and ABU competing at the continent and world levels.

Who are the real cowards here? Igbos

Why? Igbos have failed to declare war on Nigerians despite all their chest-beating threats.

If you guys really mean the war business, declare war on Yorubas and Hausas/Fulanis.

If you are serious about your independence, declare war on Nigerians and see how your destinies would be destroyed again by Yorubas.

Yorubas have got the brains while you guys have got the big for nothing heads.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 7:19am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


If oil revenue is removed, then 100% VAT and port revenue will be retained in the south west, there fore OYO and Osun will be getting at least 5 times more money than they are currently getting. Savvy?


Is Osun or Oyo a coastal state?

Our oil is what is sustaining you since 1973.

Stop being a proud ingrate.

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 7:23am On Jun 15, 2015
huptin:


Ok lets do that....since you people have been shouting "our oyel" have u heard south west lose a second's sleep, when some street urchins asked a particular group to leave Lagos who cried?

Thats to show you who is gonna cry, the truth is those ports will still be functional and generating revenue years after your oyel has become totally worthless.


Akwa Ibom, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers and Cross Rivers have a total combined longer coastline than your region.

Do you think they will not develop their maritime sector to compete with you?

You have nothing.

Tin Can Port was built from the ground and commissioned in 1979 with our oil money.

Wharf in Apapa was expanded and upgraded in the 70's with our oil money.

Stop beating that flat dry chest

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Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by huptin(m): 7:25am On Jun 15, 2015
BackDatAssUp:



Is Osun or Oyo a coastal state?

Our oil is what is sustaining you since 1973.

Stop being a proud ingrate.

Your oyel sustain parasites, i come from a state that sustains the whole country, so i am not ungrateful, you should be grateful to my state for accomodating and sustaining the whole country....yes i am a proud indigene of Lagos.
Re: Federal Allocation-does The South-west Deserve This? by Nobody: 7:26am On Jun 15, 2015
soe:
Mehn this is so unfair.

Lalasticlala..fp abeg abeg

We must correct this
hahahaha "we must correct this" as if you can do anything about it. mtcheeeew.

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