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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 1:40pm On Jun 16, 2015
ssaengine:


Answer the question....when last did you slap your wife? Huh small boy? Do not waste my time. I have utterly and completely demolished you....hence i told you to read my reply a few times until your stu.pidity sinks in.

You now have the nerve to ask "deep and reaching" questions, pretending as if you have any clew of what you're talking about. You again are deadly silent about 8 pilots in 2012, when you claimed 6.

In Nigeria the only way to get to 18 is 9 + 9? Not 12 + 6, 14 + 4, 13 + 5.....only 9 + 9?

The number 9 ONLY comes from this forum. Nowhere else in the entire universe is the number 9 linked with SAAF Gripen pilots besides THIS forum. And then you have the guts to demand proof to counter claims literally pulled out of your a.ss

Actually quite disgusting and pathetic.

demolish who? the only person demolished is yourself. hence the emotional rants.

answer simple question and then we can go further from there.

do aircrew comprise of only fighter pilots? yes or no
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On Jun 16, 2015
FighterPilot:



Don't forget Master Barlow trained your unskilled pilots.

Eben trains pilots? He was with SAAF as Colonel ?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:46pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Let me make brain work easy for you.

Hawk has not radar. Gripen has radar.

Hawk jet does NOT do air to air combat, it is a trainer/ light ground attack jet, so how does a Hawk pilot enter a Gripen and fly air to air combat sortie against an F-7 jet pilot that has trained to fire air to air missiles and do jet vs jet combat maneuver plus dogfight ?

A Hawk pilot flying a Gripen to do air combat against air superiority enemy jets is going to die young grin grin
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You will never understand because you are not in aviation industry. All our combat pilots used to fly supersonic cheetahs and now the thing is that before they could go on to the gripens they familiarise them with gripen cockpit on the hawks. It looks the same. What you see on the gripen is what you see on the hawks cockpit. That's why hawks is just the training platform for gripen fighter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:49pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Eben trains pilots? He was with SAAF as Colonel ?

Yes, he recruited some former SADF pilots as his crew to train pilots of less privileged countries such as Angola, Nigeria et al.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 1:51pm On Jun 16, 2015
stillchris:


demolish who? the only person demolished is yourself. hence the emotional rants.

answer simple question and then we can go further from there.

do aircrew comprise of only fighter pilots? yes or no

Listen you small boy....do not waste my time. If you have nothing to say, then say nothing. If you had the required mental capacity, you would have seen that this question has already been answered.

Hence i asked the only way to get to 18 in Nigeria is 9 + 9? Only 9 pilots and 9 navs make 18 aircrew? You cant have 14 pilots and 4 navs.....13 pilots and 5 navs etc? Only 9 and 9? The number 9 was created solely by Nigerians on this forum, nowhere else.Fact.

Im done with this useless argument. As you were.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 1:51pm On Jun 16, 2015
We're still talking about Boko Haram kicking NA ass. I thought the war against BH was OVER according to what August. cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:53pm On Jun 16, 2015
FighterPilot:


You will never understand because you are not in aviation industry. All our combat pilots used to fly supersonic cheetahs and now the thing is that before they could go on to the gripens they familiarise them with gripen cockpit on the hawks. It looks the same. What you see on the gripen is what you see on the hawks cockpit. That's why hawks is just the training platform for gripen fighter.

If you don't have qualifying hours in the air on a particular aircraft, you are NOT combat qualified.

You are a probably toilet cleaner in aviation industry.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:54pm On Jun 16, 2015
FighterPilot:


Yes, he recruited some former SADF pilots as his crew to train pilots of less privileged countries such as Angola, Nigeria et al.

Show us one ex-SADF pilot flying Nigerian combat aircraft, show us his I.D and prove he is South African.....we are waiting !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:59pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


If you don't have qualifying hours in the air on a particular aircraft, you are NOT combat qualified.

You are a probably toilet cleaner in aviation industry.

You see qualifying hours is another thing, but all our combat pilots ( former Cheetahs) have so far graduated to gripens. They all have the experience of sitting on the gripens cockpit.

Currently SAAF has 18 newly recruited combat pilots who still fly hawks.

We don't hire toilet cleaners in aviation, we outsource that work to Nigerian immigrants
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02pm On Jun 16, 2015
[size=16pt] SAAF pilots are only qualified for sitting down inside Gripen cockpit NOT flying combat :

Confirmed by SAAF officer below !

FighterPilot:


You see qualifying hours is another thing, but all our combat pilots ( former Cheetahs) have so far graduated to gripens.

They all have the experience of sitting on the Gripens cockpit.

I love the above confession of truth....post of the week
.[/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:03pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Show us one ex-SADF pilot flying Nigerian combat aircraft, show us his I.D and prove he is South African.....we are waiting !
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Your president Jonathan and Master Barlow confirmed it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:04pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:
SAAF pilots are only qualified for sitting down inside Gripen cockpit NOT flying combat :

Confirmed by SAAF officer below !

[size=16pt]
I love the above confession of truth....post of the week
.[/size]

Oh!! I forgot English is not your language. Sorry!!!

Definitely, yes, meaning they all can fly gripens and operate it to any mission
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:12pm On Jun 16, 2015
FighterPilot:


Oh!! I forgot English is not your language. Sorry!!!

Definitely, yes, meaning they all can fly gripens and operate it to any mission

English is the official language of Nigeria
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:17pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


At present the SAAF can only muster six qualified Gripen pilots who only have 150 flying hours available across the whole Gripen squadron this year, according to Maynier. The annual target for fighter flying hours was 250 for the 2011/2012 period, according to the Department of Defence’s most recent Annual Report.

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29831:a-dozen-saaf-gripens-in-long-term-storage35:Aerospace




SAAF only has 6 qualified Gripen Pilots, and only 9 Gripen Pilots of a total Gripen crew of 18.

Long debunked statements from a man who is not a member of the SANDF

Your man made these allegations to parliament on 13 March 2013

On 09 September 2013 the SANDF formally replied to his allegations with the following:

Bayne said the Gripen fleet has flown 3 500 hours since 2008 while the 24-strong Hawk fleet has flown over 10 000 major accident-free hours since 2005. According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date and 52 Hawk aircrew have been trained so far.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

And need I remind you, that it is now 2015 - meaning these numbers will have grown.

Now, henry120, I emplore you to stop posting outdated information that has long been debunked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:20pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


So, why don't you provide evidence that you have more than 9 Pilots?

According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date and 52 Hawk aircrew have been trained so far.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

This has been posted hundreds of times.

You simply run away from this one sentance as it destroys everything you have been saying
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:21pm On Jun 16, 2015
stillchris:


no patches. stop talking like a novice

that's a silly excuse.

you signed the contract in 98. so definitelt had 10 years to train more than 9 pilots before the aircrafts are delivered.

now it's 17 years and you are stuck with just 9


When were the Gripen delivered?

In 7 years we have trained 18 Gripen aircrew and 52 Hawks aircrew - SAAF has more jet-qualified pilots than the Nigerian Aiforce has jets!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:21pm On Jun 16, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:21pm On Jun 16, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:21pm On Jun 16, 2015
Patchesagain:


According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821


9 pilots + 9 navigators = 18 Gripen crew.

Thanks
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:22pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


Nope. You train pilots before deliveries commence dummy.


16 years = 9 Pilots for 26 Planes, Shame!


With dunder-heads like you in the SAAF, i'm far from surprised.

Henry120, you are pathetic.

I understand why, your country can only muster 3 pilots for an obsolete F-7, with no replacements in sight, and South Africa has 18 aircrew for some of the most advanced fighters in the continent.

Must hurt
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:22pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Show me SABC and MNET long range airborne radar, FLIR, and electronic warfare equipment
.

Right after you show me your data-link
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:23pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


English is the official language of Nigeria
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Did I ever said anything about the official language of Nigeria? You see why I always say you have a poor comprehension skills. All that I said is that English is not your language, meaning it is not your mother's tongue. That is why you find it hard to understand it. When someone says this in English, you always have a totally different understanding.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:24pm On Jun 16, 2015
Patchesagain:


When were the Gripen delivered?

In 7 years we have trained 18 Gripen aircrew and 52 Hawks aircrew -

SAAF has more jet-qualified pilots than the Nigerian Aiforce has jets!!

NAF has more jets than SAAF

SAAF has 9 qualified Gripen pilots today. CONFIRMED
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:24pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


When did you sign the Gripen Contract?



It sure as hell didn't take Czech republic 16 years to raise 9 Pilots for their Gripens.

It didnt take South Africa 16 years to raise 9 pilots either.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:25pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


[s]Pilot qualification is done yearly. If 8 pilots are combat qualified in 2012, they can become disqualified in 2013 if they fly less than the required number of hours for 2013.

As at today 2015, NO single SAAF Gripen pilot has enough flying hours to qualify for combat, but we do agree you have 9 pilots even though they are NOT technically combat qualified[/s]
.

Citations needed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:26pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


Who says you have more than 9?

Who says we have 9?

I have posted my citations many times.

You have yet to post any
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:27pm On Jun 16, 2015
Henry120:


You have 9 Pilots, and of that number only 6 are actually qualified to fly that Jet.

Still waving around your old and debunked source?

You stink of desperation
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:28pm On Jun 16, 2015
FighterPilot:


Did I ever said anything about the official language of Nigeria? You see why I always say you have a poor comprehension skills. All that I said is that English is not your language, meaning it is not your mother's tongue. That is why you find it hard to understand it. When someone says this in English, you always have a totally different understanding.

You said my language, and yes English is my language, my lingua franca. You did not say mother tongue then, so stop changing stuff.

Is English your own mother tongue, is Malay Pig an European by race ?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:28pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:



Bwhahahahaha grin grin grin grin

I cannot stop laughing at South African 33% brain educational system failure.

Oh my sides grin grin This is fvcking hilarious !

@Patches failed comprehension in school like every other South African citizen, he scored 33% grin grin

See, what your own source says :

1. SeaSpray radar is appropriate to medium aircraft like ATR-42, ATR-72, AW159 or other aircraft, it does NOT say these aircraft use it !

2. It finally gave you a list of aircraft that uses Sea Spray radar and it is in service ATR-72, can't you interpret one simple paragraph ?

So your Soweto education has embarrassed you again here....oh my sides .....ricb cracking laughter grin grin

Show us a source that says ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar ! Show us now !

#Sweating Patches Now Desperate grin grin
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Irrelevant

Also, the ATOS system has the Seaspray as a fundimental part of it,
http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/18917854/body_mm07800_ATOS_LQ_.pdf
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:28pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Briefing room lecture is NOT = flying hours.

Actually proves our point, SAAF Gripen pilots are always on the ground inside classroom NOT flying in the air.

Nice suicide post by Patrick....I love it
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Pilots get breifed for missions they dont fly?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:29pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


[s]Your judiciary issued a court order and one man violated it, your 200,000 Southie security forces could not effect an arrest !

A slap on the face of South African court system, remember the Nigerian weapons money $15 million that your court sized, you cowards also released that money back to Nigeria out of fear. We bought MRAP and SAMIL trucks with the cash you siezed and boasted to spend for christmas, but fear of Nigeria made 50 million South Africans tremble and handover our money shocked shocked

South Africa fears everybody :

1. Fears Nigeria
2. Fears Seleka rebels
3. Fears Rhino Poachers
4. Fears Sudan
5. Fears everbody.....50 million cowards

Sudan too has slapped the mouth of South Africa big time..... [/s] shocked shocked


Read the story
Understand the story
Reply accordingly
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:30pm On Jun 16, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed for the above lie
.

How dare you ever ask anyone for any citation!!

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