agaugust:


[s]Simulator is NOT real aircraft.

Hawk and Gripen cockpits are very very different.

Speed and mechanical performance also are different.

Gripen pilots trained on Hawk as lead-in trainer, but after leaving the flying school for many years, they have NO qualifying hours to fly Hawk.

The Hawk pilots have NEVER flown a supersonic jet or have tried for a while and stopped, they are NOT qualified to fly Gripen, no hours !

Fool, this man is gonna cause air crashes by interchanging unqualified pilots[/s] o !
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Opinion

Therefore: Into the trash it goes

stillchris:


bwahaadhahahahahahahaha.....


one question... do aircrew comprise of only pilots?

your comment comes off as a whining
old man.

you are yet to prove you have more than 9 Gripen pilots

You still have to prove we only have 9!

Or are you going to rely on the logical fallacy forever?

agaugust:


Henry is correct, SAAF ordered Gripen in 1999 that is 16 years ago, your pilots are supposed to be selected and begin training program from that 16 years ago, except your country and air force is a bunch of fools who don't have training plans for aircraft that they paid for.

When did the Gripen arrive in South Africa?

agaugust:


9 pilots + 9 navigators = 18 Gripen crew.

Thanks
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why so many gripen navigators? You see why I always say you are ignorant as far as aviation industry is concerned?

Patchesagain:


Pilots get breifed for missions they dont fly?

Show us the paper content of the briefing room lecture to prove it's mission flight.

Pilots get briefed in briefing room for internal disciple, advice, new rules/regs, policy matters, etc.

You know nothing about the life of pilots, I work with them
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agaugust:


What is the in-built ATR-42 data-link used for ?
.

Nothing.

You have no data-link

FighterPilot:


why so many gripen navigators?

Why not?

agaugust:


9 pilots + 9 navigators = 18 Gripen crew.

Thanks
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What evidence do you have that says 9 pilots and 9 navigators?

None?

Ok.

FighterPilot:



[s]SA is one space that the likes of ISIS can never play on. The likes of BH who grown so big that they even challenge government troops on one on one conventional war will never even dare to challenge SANDF on home soil. They can never do what they have done in Nigeria where they have even robbed military of their strategic bases. Where they have chased military like dogs chasing after rabbits and hares. Where they have ruled over a large piece of land equal to Ireland for many months with great impunity. Such a gain can never be realised in SA soil protected by SANDF. That moemish can only happen in Nigeria where you find soldiers sleep walking because of empty stomach and poverty.[/s]

junk...
first defeat rhino poachers first, that is ruining your economy.

agaugust:


NAF has more jets than SAAF

SAAF has 9 qualified Gripen pilots today. CONFIRMED
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Do you need a lesson in mathamatics?

Where was it confirmed that we only have 9 pilots?

Patchesagain:


How dare you ever ask anyone for any citation!!

How dare you post citation of ATR-72 SeaSpray radar and fraudulently claim that it is ATR-42 radar ?
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agaugust:


[s]Show us the paper content of the briefing room lecture to prove it's mission flight.

Pilots get briefed in briefing room for internal disciple, advice, new rules/regs, policy matters, etc.

You know nothing about the life of pilots, I work with them[/s]
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I dont have to show you sh1t

Pilots

In flying suits

Getting briefed

We all know what that means.

And no, augubugug, you dont work with pilots - we know you arent what you claim. You are just some sad lonely beta who's life is so empty and devoid of meaning that the only time he feels like a man is when he pretends to be one on the internet.

agaugust:


How dare you post citation of ATR-72 SeaSpray radar and fraudulently claim that it is ATR-42 radar ?
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How about you post your atr42 400km radar?

Gripen ground search radar range?

Huh?

You can never demand a citation from anyone

FYI: Citation has been posted. Deal with it

Patchesagain:


I dont have to show you sh1t

Pilots

In flying suits

Getting briefed

We all know what that means.

They are being briefed about severe fuel shortages in SAAF
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agaugust:


What is the in-built ATR-42 data-link used for ?
.

I confirmed it that it is only SA in Africa that has a tactical data link. The only technologically advanced force in Africa.

Patchesagain:


How about you post your atr42 400km radar?

Gripen ground search radar range?

Huh?

You can never demand a citation from anyone

FYI: Citation has been posted. Deal with it

@Milikazi has bailed you out by posting Gripen ground search radar as 70 km, I did not even ask him for citation because he was correct.

You posted a wrong citation, ATR-72 is NOT = ATR-42.

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !
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agaugust:


[s]They are being briefed about severe fuel shortages in SAAF[/s]
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22 000 hours of fuel is a shortage?

lionel4power:
junk...
first defeat rhino poachers first, that is ruining your economy.

Rhino poaching is crime and not a military assigned responsibility. It is the duty of law enforcement agencies to carry out and poachers are arrested continually

agaugust:


@Milikazi has bailed you out by posting Gripen ground search radar as 70 km, I did not even ask him for citation because he was correct.

You posted a wrong citation, ATR-72 is NOT = ATR-42.

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !
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So you have no citation to prove your claims about gripen ground search radar?

When are you going to post the 400km range?

Read the citations I posted -

Also, the ATOS system has the Seaspray as a fundimental part of it,
http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/18917854/body_mm07800_ATOS_LQ_.pdf

Now, citations please!

Patchesagain:


22 000 hours of fuel is a shortage?

Yes, SAAF was only able to fly VIP transport and then fuel finished.

agaugust:


@Milikazi has bailed you out by posting Gripen ground search radar as 70 km, I did not even ask him for citation because he was correct.

You posted a wrong citation, ATR-72 is NOT = ATR-42.

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !
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ATR72 has much better performance than ATR42.

agaugust:


Yes, SAAF was only able to fly VIP transport and then fuel finished.

Are pathetic little japes all you have left?

Are you so badly defeated that all you can do is type out empty one-liners?

and, FYI, only 18 000 hours of the 22 000 hours budgeted for was used - meaning we have a fuel surplus, meaning we have fuel to spare.

Patchesagain:


So you have no citation to prove your claims about gripen ground search radar?

When are you going to post the 400km range?

Read the citations I posted - seapsray is a fundimental part of the ATOS system

Now, citations please!

Gripen radar ground mode is 70 km according to @Milikikazi, he is correct, the estimate is 75 km, so for me to say a South African is correct, means a lot. I never even bothered to ask him for citation, I know he is correct. Google the JF-17 Thunder Vs Gripen chart and see the answer

Sea Spray radar is used ONLY by ATR-72 according to your own source, so post source for ATR-42 Radar now ! Prove your claim !
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FighterPilot:


ATR72 has much better performance than ATR42.

Citation needed
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agaugust:


Show us the paper content of the briefing room lecture to prove it's mission flight.

Pilots get briefed in briefing room for internal disciple, advice, new rules/regs, policy matters, etc.

You know nothing about the life of pilots, I work with them
.

So, tell us about the life of pilots. This time I am using simple English.

agaugust:


Citation needed
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Logically 72 is greater than 42.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72

Patchesagain:


So you have no citation to prove your claims about gripen ground search radar?

When are you going to post the 400km range?

Read the citations I posted -

Also, the ATOS system has the Seaspray as a fundimental part of it,

http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/18917854/body_mm07800_ATOS_LQ_.pdf

Now, citations please!

Your own source denies your claim, it says Sea Spray radar is for ATR-72 only !

We need to agree on radar type or else how do we argue about radar range when we both dis-agree on what radar is on the ATR-42 ?

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !

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FighterPilot:



Logically 72 is greater than 42.

You work is the air force or boys scout ?

T-72 tank is greater than T-14 tank ?

F-16 jet is greater than F-15 jet ?

Malay FOOL in Soweto

FighterPilot:



Logically 72 is greater than 42.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72

Stop posting wikipedia, you said it's not a reliable source
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ssaengine:


Listen you small boy....do not waste my time. If you have nothing to say, then say nothing. If you had the required mental capacity, you would have seen that this question has already been answered.

Hence i asked the only way to get to 18 in Nigeria is 9 + 9? Only 9 pilots and 9 navs make 18 aircrew? You cant have 14 pilots and 4 navs.....13 pilots and 5 navs etc? Only 9 and 9? The number 9 was created solely by Nigerians on this forum, nowhere else.Fact.

Im done with this useless argument. As you were.

hahaha.. an emotional rant from a frustrated old man.
ansswer the question if you are trully capable of an objective debate and stop whining

i can barely finish reading your comments. too much emotions attached.

agaugust:


Your own source denies your claim, it says Sea Spray radar is for ATR-72 only !

We need to agree on radar type or else how do we argue about radar range when we both dis-agree on what radar is on the ATR-42 ?

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !

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ATR 72 is far more advanced than grandfather ATR42. In fact seaspray with ATOS appears to be important element. If SA will have to buy ATR I will recommend it to be among the number of possible choices. It is said that it can also be armed with Exocet AS missile as well. However, both system are said to be less capable.

agaugust:


Gripen radar ground mode is 70 km according to @Milikikazi, he is correct, the estimate is 75 km, so for me to say a South African is correct, means a lot. I never even bothered to ask him for citation, I know he is correct. Google the JF-17 Thunder Vs Gripen chart and see the answer

Sea Spray radar is used ONLY by ATR-72 according to your own source, so post source for ATR-42 Radar now ! Prove your claim !
.

Hey dont come here with that sh1t

Post Gripen ground search radar specs

then post ATR 400km radar specs!!

NOW