Patchesagain:

What evidence do you have that says 9 pilots and 9 navigators?
None?
Ok.

and what evidence do you have to say they are more than 9 pilots in 18 aircrew

agaugust:


Your own source denies your claim, it says Sea Spray radar is for ATR-72 only !

We need to agree on radar type or else how do we argue about radar range when we both dis-agree on what radar is on the ATR-42 ?

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !

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post your 400km radar range and settle the debat


or, you could name the radar in your ATR

Patchesagain:

You still have to prove we only have 9!
Or are you going to rely on the logical fallacy forever?

and yoh have no proof you have more than 9. so until you do, the logic stands

stillchris:


and what evidence do you have to say they are more than 9 pilots in 18 aircrew

None

Thats why I dont say how many we have.

Now, what proof do you have that says we only have 9?

agaugust:

Stop posting wikipedia, you said it's not a reliable source .

It was not posted out on the matter of reliability rather for indulgence.

stillchris:


and yoh have no proof you have more than 9. so until you do, the logic stands

I have provided that proof long ago.

stillchris:


and yoh have no proof you have more than 9. so until you do, the logic stands

Logic?

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa).

Patchesagain:


Nothing.

You have no data-link

hmm!! okay. so our defence chiefs used youtubr to get live feeds from combat areas?

or our airforce wants the T-129 specifically to link through what? internet explorer?

keep decieving yourself

stillchris:


hmm!! okay. so our defence chiefs used youtubr to get live feeds from combat areas?

or our airforce wants the T-129 specifically to link through what? internet explorer?

keep decieving yourself

Name it then

Nigeria has only three F7 pilots and I don't know why we should be stretching this argument for too long.

Patchesagain:


Logic?

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa).

Logic

"reasoned and reasonable judgment" (Advanced English Dictionary)

are you now looking for word definitions? is that what you have been reduced to? does this prove you have more than 9 pilots? huh?

Patchesagain:


Name it then

and our airforce sent target cordinates from ATR 42 to artillery units on ground during surveillance on boki haram positions through whatsapp?

keep decieving yourself

stillchris:


Logic

"reasoned and reasonable judgment" (Advanced English Dictionary)

are you now looking for word definitions? is that what you have been reduced to? does this prove you have more than 9 pilots? huh?

You do not even have more than 6 operational F7s and as things are standing you only have three F7 pilots.

stillchris:


and our airforce sent target cordinates from ATR 42 to artillery units on ground during surveillance on boki haram positions through whatsapp?

keep decieving yourself

name

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stillchris:


and our airforce sent target cordinates from ATR 42 to artillery units on ground during surveillance on boki haram positions through whatsapp?

keep decieving yourself

You still do not have a tactical data link. The first ATR to be configured with compatibility to LINK 11 and 16 is ATR 72


http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/atr-72-asw-anti-submarine-warfare-aircraft/



The aircraft is attached with a mobile turret mounted with electro-optic (EO) system for real-time tactical situation awareness.
Thales AMASCOS (Airborne Maritime Situation & Control System) mission system and AIS (Automatic Identification System) will be fitted to the ATR72-600 TMPA. It will also feature a Link 11 / 16 data-link and broadband satellite systems. This will be used for the
transfer of data in real-time to the ground command and control centres, as well as other platforms, both in air and on sea.

stillchris:


hahaha.. an emotional rant from a frustrated old man.
ansswer the question if you are trully capable of an objective debate and stop whining

i can barely finish reading your comments. too much emotions attached.

If you eminate from some form of du.mb as fvck sperm mixed with a 2nd rate egg, that's your problem not mine. Question has been answered....in the very text of mine you quoted. You keep asking the same question because you don't know where to go from here.

18 Aircrew. Post just 1 single source which states that means 9 pilots and 9 navigators. Why not 13 pilots and 5 navigators? If you feel like making sh.it up, have fun.....no one can stop you.

FighterPilot:


You do not even have more than 6 operational F7s and as things are standing you only have three F7 pilots.

how does this prove you don't lack pilots for your expensive jets?

you've been scammed.

ssaengine:


If you eminate from some form of du.mb as fvck sperm mixed with a 2nd rate egg, that's your problem not mine. Question has been answered....if the very text of mine you quoted. You keep asking the same question because you don't know where to go from here.

18 Aircrew. Post just 1 single source which states that means 9 pilots and 9 navigators. Why not 13 pilots and 5 navigators? If you feel like making sh.it up, have fun.....no one can stop you.

still crying?

you are yet to prove anything than the mental torture you are goung through right now.

stillchris:


still crying?

you are yet to prove anything than the mental torture you are goung through right now.

You are making noise and you have only three F7 fighter pilots

stillchris:

how does this prove you don't lack pilots for your expensive jets?
you've been scammed.

Nah, it just only proves a point that Nigeria has only three F7 pilots.

stillchris:


still crying?

you are yet to prove anything than the mental torture you are goung through right now.

There is nothing to prove against claims made on Nairaland. That is something which clearly will never sink into that thick skull. Show us where in the world you see "9 Gripen SAAF pilots"....i dare you. You think you can make sh.it up then demand proof to counter your thumb suck? Are you m.ad?

-For the 10th time....how were there 8 pilots in Sweden when Nigerians said we only had 6? Why are you deadly silent on that?

You have even forgotten your own original question. 18 aircrew, a mix of pilots and navigators. Where did you get the number 9? Show us the link.

I wont hold my breath

Patchesagain:


name

it

dude, i seriously don't get what the fuzz is about datalink.

if NAMA, a civil authority can have an operatiinal datalink, what makes you think the government would not provide one for the military?

The Nigerian Airspace Management Agency (NAMA) in conjunction with SITA is deploying Controller Pilot Data Link Communication (CPDLC) facilities at Lagos and Kano Control Centres to enhance long range data communication between Air Traffic Controllers and the Pilots.
http://voiceofnigeria.org/nigeria/nama-deploys-data-link-facilities-to-boost-communication.html

We have given many proof that the Nigerian military has an operational datalink infrastructure. but being secretive, they will not let us know what type.

now the only thing i se here is south africans have never seen proof of SANDF operationak datalink. if there is, give us one instance where it's been used.

simple

stillchris:


dude, i seriously don't get what the fuzz is about datalink.

if NAMA, a civil authority can have an operatiinal datalink, what makes you think the government would not provide one for the military?

The Nigerian Airspace Management Agency (NAMA) in conjunction with SITA is deploying Controller Pilot Data Link Communication (CPDLC) facilities at Lagos and Kano Control Centres to enhance long range data communication between Air Traffic Controllers and the Pilots.
http://voiceofnigeria.org/nigeria/nama-deploys-data-link-facilities-to-boost-communication.html

We have given many proof that the Nigerian military has an operational datalink infrastructure. but being secretive, they will not let us know what type.

now the only thing i se here is south africans have never seen proof of SANDF operationak datalink. if there is, give us one instance where it's been used.

simple

Bwhahahahajajajajajajajajajanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa… Wow! This man finished my breath. Those are for civilian Air traffic controllers and since when is that a tactical data link.

Here it looks like even ATR 42 couldn't use a tactical data link rather the system was partial communicating with itself, that's why Italy ordered it.


http://theaviationist.com/2008/12/22/four-atr72mp-to-replace-the-ageing-italian-fleet-of-br1150-atlantic/

FighterPilot:




Bwhahahahajajajajajajajajajanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa… Wow! This man finished my breath. Those are for Air traffic controllers and since when is that a tactical data link.

Here it looks like even ATR 42 couldn't use a tactical data link rather the system was partial communicating with itself, that's why Italy ordered it.


http://theaviationist.com/2008/12/22/four-atr72mp-to-replace-the-ageing-italian-fleet-of-br1150-atlantic/

dullard.

that was used as an example. not for the military.

i underatand your problem though. so no worries here

[size=20]STILLCHRIS AND COHORTS DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS A TACTICAL DATA LINK. CAN SOMEONE TEACH THESE FOOLS HERE WHAT IS A TACTICAL DATA LINK[/size]

@Stillchris it is only SA in Africa that has a dedicated tactical data link. Admit it and make peace with it.

stillchris:


dullard.

that was used as an example. not for the military.

i underatand your problem though. so no worries here

That was stupidd of you then. It is equivalent of suggesting that someone bought a decoder to connect to DSTV. That agency is for air traffic controllers. Their is to arrange communication equipments to ensure smooth data transfer.

Rumor has it the Sudanese Army surrounded lightly armed RSA peacekeepers in Sudan and threatened to attack unless their president was released
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/EXCLUSIVE-Sudan-held-SA-hostage-20150616

Interesting to see if it is true

Patchesagain:
Rumor has it the Sudanese Army surrounded lightly armed RSA peacekeepers in Sudan and threatened to attack unless their president was released
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/EXCLUSIVE-Sudan-held-SA-hostage-20150616

Interesting to see if it is true

altgough i doubt the story as reporters will want to make a meal of the whole incidence, what else would you expect.

arresting bashir would have sparked confrontations between both countries. militarily or diplomatic

and many african governments will be against SA on this one because it will amount to discrediting the AU.

your government still doesn't understand International politics

FighterPilot:



That was stupidd of you then. It is equivalent of suggesting that someone bought a decoder to connect to DSTV. That agency is for air traffic controllers. Their is to arrange communication equipments to ensure smooth data transfer.

dullard

i used an example how a datalink infrastructure for the military is no big deal if a civil authority has it's own.

wow!! the kind of illiteracy in SANDF is alarming.

just take this guy for example.

Patchesagain:


post your 400km radar range and settle the debat


or, you could name the radar in your ATR

Okay, you agree that ATR-42 radar is not Sea Spray ?

You surrender? Say yes boss, South Africa surrenders to Nigeria, then we can go forward from there...
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FighterPilot:


You have only three F-7 fighter pilots

Citation needed now !
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