Ibime:
They are saying the 3 youngsters on loan is a way for Chelsea to forego a loan fee

I think it's a brilliant loan because Monaco is the highest level loan we could have got those boys as they will be playing Champions League.

The French League is also one of the most physically demanding (due to the amount of fast black ninjas in the league). Usually the jump from Youth football to senior football is a physical one - the young ninjas just don't have the stamina, strength or endurance to hang with the pros.

Nathan Bakers loan to Vitesse is also a good one. In terms of work ethic and professionalism, none of our youngsters match his standard. He is a slow burner developer like Lampard.

Spot on.

Looking forward to an Argentina v Brazil semi

Ibime:
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How many times in a year do they do this Mr Nairaland thing? I seem to see it every other week

CFCfan:
Looking forward to an Argentina v Brazil semi

No Neymar, No Brazil

A40:

How many times in a year do they do this Mr Nairaland thing? I seem to see it every other week

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raumdeuter:


No Neymar, No Brazil

And your words came to pass.

CFCfan:

And your words came to pass.

Were you really expecting something big from a Selecao side that had the likes of Robinho in their midst?

The current Brazilian team with or without Neymar isn't just ready. Dunga's setup is filled to the brim with mediocres.

The title is Argentina's to lose.

You know Brazil are in trouble when their only bright spark is a player who only moved to Europe two seasons ago.

The team is largely made up of downright average players who're unproven on the big stage (Douglas, Dante, Firmino etc), players whose forms are as fickle as the English climate (Oscar, Fernandinho, Ramires, Luiz etc) and players whose careers are on the decline (Alves, Robinho, Hulk etc).

It's difficult to build a formidable team around these ninjas. That'd be more like laying a foundation on a sinking ground, at some stages, the house would crumble.

Gone are the days when the name ''Brazil'' when mentioned would send shivers down your spine. Days when Ronaldo de Lima, Dinho, Rivaldo etc were all joy to watch, days when the key figures at Los Blancos were Brazilians, days when it was always a Brazilian for the WPOTY award.

You can hardly come across such Brazilian talents these days. The ones that are around are just there to showboat on the pitch, nothing else.

Transition period or dearth of talent?

raumdeuter:


No Neymar, No Brazil

but neymar played against colombia..brazil is slowly becoming england in terms of overrating their players. neymar now is just like robinho then in midst of ronaldo de lima, ronaldinho, rivaldo of course, he(neymar) would have be a sub if he was around during the time of those legend or he wouldn't be invited due to his drama king attitude because there was descipline in the team then.

AirborneLacer:
You know Brazil are in trouble when their only bright spark is a player who only moved to Europe two seasons ago.

The team is largely made up of downright average players who're unproven on the big stage (Douglas, Dante, Firmino etc), players whose forms are as fickle as the English climate (Oscar, Fernandinho, Ramires, Luiz etc) and players whose careers are on the decline (Alves, Robinho, Hulk etc).

It's difficult to build a formidable team around these ninjas. That'd be more like laying a foundation on a sinking ground, at some stages, the house would crumble.

Gone are the days when the name ''Brazil'' when mentioned would send shivers down your spine. Days when Ronaldo de Lima, Dinho, Rivaldo etc were all joy to watch, days when the key figures at Los Blancos were Brazilians, days when it was always a Brazilian for the WPOTY award.

You can hardly come across such Brazilian talents these days. The ones that are around are just there to showboat on the pitch, nothing else.

Transition period or dearth of talent?

Even neymar is overrated, he is just a flashy boy nothing more. Brazil should build a team instead of building it around drama king (neymar), to even think they gave him captain armband is absurd.

raumdeuter:


No Neymar, No Brazil

When he hadn't foolishly received his unnecessary 'world record' 4-match ban (first Captain to suffer a red card after FT ) Brazil struggled to win first match nd lost the second. ..
actually, d loss triggered his frustration nd d young skipper lost his cool. ..
In other news....
Neymar will become the world best player someday, he's one of the best strikers in the world. ....Diego Forlan 2015

hensben:
Even neymar is overrated, he is just a flashy boy nothing more. Brazil should build a team instead of building it around drama king (neymar), to even think they gave him captain armband is absurd.

You would be the only one who thinks a guy who scored 39 goals in a season is overrated. SO who isnt overrated? The guy who dribbles with no end product?

raumdeuter:


You would be the only one who thinks a guy who scored 39 goals in a season is overrated. SO who isnt overrated? The guy who dribbles with no end product?

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raumdeuter:


You would be the only one who thinks a guy who scored 39 goals in a season is overrated. SO who isnt overrated? The guy who dribbles with no end product?

Bro fvk those goals..this is one of the problem with football today, goals goals. look every club n country there is no up n coming great defenders anymore due to young players want to be an attacker, were are the carlos, the maldinis, cafu, thuram, terry, puyols, ferdnand. For a player to be giving an attention this days he has to score dozen of goals even when he is not a striker, overrated players here n there, see mangala 45mil can't even defend. neymar to me is just like when robinho came out then, they are flashy/effizy players they are not hard workers unlike ronaldo de lima, rivaldo n ronaldinho reason robinho couldn't break into that due to he wasnt up to standard, he can't play under pressure same with neymar...neymar is just a pampered player to me.

Long time gone. I hear we are now selling assets to rivals and buying liabilities. We still don't have a new midfielder. Ramires is still here and as normal, many peops are saying Ramires is 'key'. Haven't we over-flogged this issue?

Why has summer transfer not started here sef? The only transfer news is depressing. Cech to Arsenal? Barking mad 5h!t. Falcao to Chelsea? Someone has gone insane. His knees are phucked.

Someone called Kennedy a talent. Really? Speed merchant, loose ball control? Lucas? Mo Salah? Seen this 'talent' before. Traore is miles ahead. Who is the Chelsea South American Scout? He should be fired. Average talent after average talent year on year. Why are we not following talents like Matias Kranevitter?

The summer better start quick o. We are weakening ourselves and strengthening our rivals.

hensben:
brazil is slowly becoming england in terms of overrating their players.

Correction, Brazil is now worse than England in overrating their players.

Thís is mostly due to the preponderance of 3rd party ownership - agents and investors hype their investments to the brim so they can maximise the transfer fee.

Thís Kenedy boy Chelsea supposedly signed has been hyped in all the papers and been linked with Barcelona and co. Only to watch the boys game and find out he is a poor version of Andros Townsend.

Other examples are Lucas who PSG paid £40m for only to find out he is a poor man's Theo Walcott

And of course, we have one of the hyped products at Chelsea - Oscar Emboaba, a clueless, visionlesss no 10 who was the great white hope of a Brazilian public eager to see white faces in the team. Bernardo is another one that Shakhtar paid megabucks for, a ninja who was overpromoted into Selecao just because he's white. And how can we forget Calamity Luiz who can do no wrong in the eyes of Brazilian public due to an overwhelming desire for affirmative action to whiten up the team.

nateevs:


Someone called Kennedy a talent. Really? Speed merchant, loose ball control? Lucas? Mo Salah? Seen this 'talent' before. Traore is miles ahead. Who is the Chelsea South American Scout? He should be fired.

Spot on.

Ibime:


Correction, Brazil is now worse than England in overrating their players.

Thís is mostly due to the preponderance of 3rd party ownership - agents and investors hype their investments to the brim so they can maximise the transfer fee.

Thís Kenedy boy Chelsea supposedly signed has been hyped in all the papers and been linked with Barcelona and co. Only to watch the boys game and find out he is a poor version of Andros Townsend.

Other examples are Lucas who PSG paid £40m for only to find out he is a poor man's Theo Walcott

And of course, we have one of the hyped products at Chelsea - Oscar Emboaba, a clueless, visionlesss no 10 who was the great white hope of a Brazilian public eager to see white faces in the team. Bernardo is another one that Shakhtar paid megabucks for, a ninja who was overpromoted into Selecao just because he's white. And how can we forget Calamity Luiz who can do no wrong in the eyes of Brazilian public due to an overwhelming desire for affirmative action to whiten up the team.

You are right bro, to make things worst they make a drama king(Neymar) their key player n captain, he is now the eye of brazil smh..Brazilians want to have messi like player by fire by force but in reality he is another robinho, this type of player can't give trophy, they goes to the ground at any slight touch just to get attention, they are attention seekers, they want everything to be centered around them..Neymar is justin bibier of football.

nateevs:
Long time gone. I hear we are now selling assets to rivals and buying liabilities. We still don't have a new midfielder. Ramires is still here and as normal, many peops are saying Ramires is 'key'. Haven't we over-flogged this issue?

Why has summer transfer not started here sef? The only transfer news is depressing. Cech to Arsenal? Barking mad 5h!t. Falcao to Chelsea? Someone has gone insane. His knees are phucked.

Someone called Kennedy a talent. Really? Speed merchant, loose ball control? Lucas? Mo Salah? Seen this 'talent' before. Traore is miles ahead. Who is the Chelsea South American Scout? He should be fired. Average talent after average talent year on year. Why are we not following talents like Matias Kranevitter?

The summer better start quick o. We are weakening ourselves and strengthening our rivals.

When did this love for brazilian players start huh..These current brazilan players are overrated.

Whoever the scout is should be Fired.......
Tielemans,Praet,Garbigol e.t.c
we never get inked with those kinda talent


As for Brazil, Put Neymar back in 2002 and would be on their world cup B list..........
Rivaldo,Ronaldino,Adriano and co.....None of them would score 30+ goals a season but Neymar would never bench them,unless a certain goal hungry opata yarning nairaland seasoned analyst was in charge of Brazil

Ibime:
Correction, Brazil is now worse than England in overrating their players.

Thís is mostly due to the preponderance of 3rd party ownership - agents and investors hype their investments to the brim so they can maximise the transfer fee.

Thís Kenedy boy Chelsea supposedly signed has been hyped in all the papers and been linked with Barcelona and co. Only to watch the boys game and find out he is a poor version of Andros Townsend.

Other examples are Lucas who PSG paid £40m for only to find out he is a poor man's Theo Walcott

And of course, we have one of the hyped products at Chelsea - Oscar Emboaba, a clueless, visionlesss no 10 who was the great white hope of a Brazilian public eager to see white faces in the team. Bernardo is another one that Shakhtar paid megabucks for, a ninja who was overpromoted into Selecao just because he's white. And how can we forget Calamity Luiz who can do no wrong in the eyes of Brazilian public due to an overwhelming desire for affirmative action to whiten up the team.

PSG tho! something has got to be seriously wrong with the guys in charge.

especially - no sane management will pay €20m for David 'PS' Luiz!

hensben:
You are right bro, to make things worst they make a drama king(Neymar) their key player n captain, he is now the eye of brazil smh..Brazilians want to have messi like player by fire by force but in reality he is another robinho, this type of player can't give trophy, they goes to the ground at any slight touch just to get attention, they are attention seekers, they want everything to be centered around them..Neymar is justin bibier of football.

Why are you so obsessed with Neymar? Neymar this, Neymar that. Brazil's problems are beyond Neymar.

Neymar is the only world class player in that team bar Silva. When you have the likes of Ramirez, Oscar, Hulk, Fred, in your team, it becomes an average team.

But your obsession is all about Neymar.

Like what Dayo said, No Neymar no Brazil. You can say this to Hazard on Belgium. Can you?

Debroslink:


Why are you so obsessed with Neymar? Neymar this, Neymar that. Brazil's problems are beyond Neymar.

Neymar is the only world class player in that team bar Silva. When you have the likes of Ramirez, Oscar, Hulk, Fred, in your team, it becomes an average team.

But your obsession is all about Neymar.

Like what Dayo said, No Neymar no Brazil. You can say this to Hazard on Belgium. Can you?

When did it become no neymar no brazil, who is neymar to brazil national team, was he part of the five world cup they won in the past..brazil need a team not a player..i repeat neymar is just like robinho then. brazil were better all round in the past, players with their fit on the ground unlike dolphin-like player (neymar). brazil are beginning to overrate their players hence their down fall unlike before, a player like elber of bayern was a goal machine then but he couldn't break into the team to tell you the quality players brazil had.

Debroslink:

Like what Dayo said, No Neymar no Brazil. You can say this to Hazard on Belgium. Can you?

Kryyyst! Can you guys just stop? Please. Let people make comments about Neymar any time they want. It doesn't ALWAYS have to be linked back to Hazard. What is your own obsession with what Hazard does not/cannot do? You guys are like kids. Arguing about the same thing every single day for months.

hensben:
When did this love for brazilian players start huh..These current brazilan players are overrated.

We are lusting after Brazilian players in the wrong era. The women who made the likes of the Brazilians we have come to envy are old and grey. The younger women are having pop-stars disguising as footballers. Our scouts should be rooted in the eastern Europe, that's where the new world talent is.

There's some good talent in Argentina and other parts of South America but Brazil is dead abeg.

Debroslink:


Why are you so obsessed with Neymar? Neymar this, Neymar that. Brazil's problems are beyond Neymar.

Neymar is the only world class player in that team bar Silva. When you have the likes of Ramirez, Oscar, Hulk, Fred, in your team, it becomes an average team.

But your obsession is all about Neymar.

Like what Dayo said, No Neymar no Brazil. You can say this to Hazard on Belgium. Can you?

just stop right there, in Belgium everyone is a star.....
from GK to the No 9,even d bench..........

Unlike Brazil where neymar is the king

Athletico are in a 500m debt and they have sign Jackson Martinez,Vietto and are about completing Callejon deal

Hmmmmm

Debroslink:


Why are you so obsessed with Neymar? Neymar this, Neymar that. Brazil's problems are beyond Neymar.

Neymar is the only world class player in that team bar Silva. When you have the likes of Ramirez, Oscar, Hulk, Fred, in your team, it becomes an average team.

But your obsession is all about Neymar.

Like what Dayo said, No Neymar no Brazil. You can say this to Hazard on Belgium. Can you?

abeg no dey disgrace Hazard jor, Neymar no be Hazard mate....Neymar is a goal scorer (striker), Hazard is an all-round playmaker....the difference is crystal clear bro.
Mention Neymar nd Griezmann pls.
Must u mention Hazard in ur argument, dem dey talk Brazil nd Neymar, u dey talk Hazard.
No Neymar, No Brazil na just nonsense talk, wen dey lost 1-0 nd he, outta frustration got a red card....na hin ghost dey pitch dt day abi.
How wud his presence have saved Brazil from the 7-0 humiliation at d last world cup, na hin go defend all d goals abi, hin wan score 7 goals against Germany...he had better thank his stars he got injured b4 d humiliation.
dem luz 1-0, e dey fyt taekwando for pitch, maybe he for kill Muller or Boateng if hin play against germany.
Rubbish playmaker...

hensben:
When did it become no neymar no brazil, who is neymar to brazil national team, was he part of the five world cup they won in the past..brazil need a team not a player..i repeat neymar is just like robinho then. brazil were better all round in the past, players with their fit on the ground unlike dolphin-like player (neymar). brazil are beginning to overrate their players hence their down fall unlike before, a player like elber of bayern was a goal machine then but he couldn't break into the team to tell you the quality players brazil had.

Bring Ronaldo De Lima to this current Brazil team, and nothing will happen. You would even compare him with the likes of Robinho. The team players are bunch of craps except Neymar and Silva.

Brazil may have overrated Neymar (he's worth it anyway), but don't compare that with the way English press overrate their players. Imagine Sterling going for £50m and Sergio Ramos is worth £35m.

jimmy4x:

abeg no dey disgrace Hazard jor, Neymar no be Hazard mate....Neymar is a goal scorer (striker), Hazard is an all-round playmaker....the difference is crystal clear bro.
Mention Neymar nd Griezmann pls.
Must u mention Hazard in ur argument, dem dey talk Brazil nd Neymar, u dey talk Hazard.
No Neymar, No Brazil na just nonsense talk, wen dey lost 1-0 nd he, outta frustration got a red card....na hin ghost dey pitch dt day abi.
How wud his presence have saved Brazil from the 7-0 humiliation at d last world cup, na hin go defend all d goals abi, hin wan score 7 goals against Germany...he had better thank his stars he got injured b4 d humiliation.
dem luz 1-0, e dey fyt taekwando for pitch, maybe he for kill Muller or Boateng if hin play against germany.
Rubbish playmaker...

Neymar may have lost his head against Colombia, but my man, give him a break. Can't Brazil win a knockout match without him? I doubt if they have ever won a knockout match without Neymar. It shows the team is shiit, and Neymar is their true world class player.

jimmy4x:

abeg no dey disgrace Hazard jor, Neymar no be Hazard mate....Neymar is a goal scorer (striker), Hazard is an all-round playmaker....the difference is crystal clear bro.
Mention Neymar nd Griezmann pls.
Must u mention Hazard in ur argument, dem dey talk Brazil nd Neymar, u dey talk Hazard.
No Neymar, No Brazil na just nonsense talk, wen dey lost 1-0 nd he, outta frustration got a red card....na hin ghost dey pitch dt day abi.
How wud his presence have saved Brazil from the 7-0 humiliation at d last world cup, na hin go defend all d goals abi, hin wan score 7 goals against Germany...he had better thank his stars he got injured b4 d humiliation.
dem luz 1-0, e dey fyt taekwando for pitch, maybe he for kill Muller or Boateng if hin play against germany.
Rubbish playmaker...

nor mind that guy, we dey talk about team player him dey talk about goal poacher.

Debroslink:


Bring Ronaldo De Lima to this current Brazil team, and nothing will happen. You would even compare him with the likes of Robinho. The team players are bunch of craps except Neymar and Silva.

Brazil may have overrated Neymar (he's worth it anyway), but don't compare that with the way English press overrate their players. Imagine Sterling going for £50m and Sergio Ramos is worth £35m.

so what's ur point? are you trying to place ronaldo de lima in neymar's level?