Yaaayyy! FTC on second page

Now to the topic
if we need to be fair and just
The OP has a point
The discrimination is too much.
Most coys don't want HND holders.

Is it that they are not sound upstairs or just that they went to polytechnic?

Its just a useless and unreasonable discrimination

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Its not fair, both shld be equal.

It can never be equal,some University students are more brilliant than POLYTECHNIC lecturers
or a situation where Youth Corpers are teaching HND 2 students
or a situation where HND student is converted to a lecturer after graduation
truth must be told,its not the same

who is to be blamed, NUC or FG?

ADMITTION REQUIREMENTS: BSC=5 CREDIT PLUS 4 JAMB SUBJECTS AND HND=4 CREDIT PLUS 3 JAMB SUBJECTS, WHY THE NOISE? I HAVE BOTH AND I KNOW WHAT AM SAYING. I EVEN HAVE CITY ANG GUILDS LEVEL 4 WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO HND. GUY GO TO SCHOOL AND STOP SCREAMING. LAW AND MEDICAL GRADUATE STARTS AT LEVEL 10 WHILE OTHERS START AT LEVEL 8. WHY ARE WE NOT KILLING OURSELVES. ENUFF OF DIS CERTIFICATE COMPARISM AS THEY DIDNT START TODAY, THEY WERE THERE BEFORE YOU STARTED SCHOOL.
EACH TIME YOU COME UP WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS, YOU END UP RIDDICULING THE HND GRADUATES. WE KNEW OUR FAITH BEFORE AND DURING SCHOOL. THEY WERE NEVER EQUALS THATS WHY YOU NEED HND TO DO A YEAR 3 DIRECT ENTRY PROGRAMME IN A UNIVERSITY PLUS YOUR MANDATORY BASIC O'LEVEL

bettercreature:
It can never be equal,some University students are more brilliant than POLYTECHNIC lecturers

Buh d discrimination is too much
Its not suppose to be so
Its just dat we place too much emphasis on Bsc degrees.

OREMUSSANCTUS:

Buh d discrimination is too much
Its not suppose to be so
Its just dat we place too much emphasis on Bsc degrees.

Polytechnic are just too bad infact they are destroying Nigerian EDUCATION system,you will weep for Nigeria if you attend some polytechnic lectures

EACH TIME YOU COME UP WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS, YOU END UP RIDDICULING THE HND GRADUATES. WE KNEW OUR FAITH BEFORE AND DURING SCHOOL. THEY WERE NEVER EQUALS THATS WHY YOU NEED HND TO DO A YEAR 3 DIRECT ENTRY PROGRAMME IN A UNIVERSITY PLUS YOUR MANDATORY BASIC O'LEVEL

tonytony208:

So, eediot, you've for no authority to judge my English.

Bros shey this one too na English?

@op, y shld dey b equal? since wen A n B na same? comparin both is an insult 2 all proffessors n Bsc holders. if e no b panadol, e no fit b panadol...period

I think everybody knows y he's gone 2 sch & wot d labour market portends 4 him/her while in sch. D mechanism has already bn put in place so u know wot u put in 4 & wot 2 expect thereafter.
Im neither a B. Sc nor an HND holder, buh fact is, by default, uni grads r supposed 2 b berra than poly grads 4 a No of reasons. This in4med d discrepancies
Truth b told, we cannot all av equal opportunities, best we can av is an egalitarian condition & dat implies dat everybody shud respect boundaries & desist frm unhealthy rivalry. Every1 is important, buh there must b order. Hence, Every1 cannot b in control. Dat's y conditions r stipulated. So, u either meet d conditions by getting d necessary 'papers' or else abide by d prevailing conditions.

The days of this discrimination are numbered!

Ow i wish d equaliser sees this write-up and d reasonable comments thr mayb they will av a rethink....

chei there is god oh difference of 50k we no go gree oh at least even if they want to discriminate it suppose to be difference of 10k no wahala

tonytony208:
Your spelling of "dangerous" is enough to show you off as a poly student. Many of them cant speak or write simple and correct English; just like you have displayed here. Now, which polytechnic did you graduate from? Your school's standard must have been very poor! "Dangerious"? Queen Elizabeth must hear this!

_ world most intelligent *WMI _ oya go grab ur 5million dollar award

Jakara:
Federal Government should please end this certificate discrimination between HND & B.Sc. holders in Federal Ministry of Interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) and others in order to increase their productivity.

This discrimination is irrelevant, dangerious, unethical and unconstitutional.

There is a looming bloody clash between these two cadres at fields of operation due to live arms/ammunition they bear and that is why every well meaning Nigerian should help towards scrapping out this because you/ your family will become victim directly/indirectly & never ask God why because you caused it by not publishing or broadcasting this message.

Few of the discriminations witnessed in Min. of Interior are;
? HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
? Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
? HND G/L 7 earns (#70,000 pm), while B.Sc. G/L 8 earns (#120,000 pm).
? Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13, while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
? HND/ inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent
ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary
agencies.
? B.Sc Holder hardly pay complement to his superior officer with HND certificate.
? HND graduates are denied one Grade Level during rank conversation.
? Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded and treated as artisans with WASC or Trade Test qualifications.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior and others as affected no longer concentrate on their duties or bring ideas that could help the job, rather they focuse on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to be converted to superintendent cadre.

It is obvious that other well recognised security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate
in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.

Federal Government should merge Ministry of Interior with Police to stop this nonsense if they persists in this evil act called discrimination.

Yes please I am affected directly

bettercreature:
Polytechnic are just too bad infact they are destroying Nigerian EDUCATION system,you will weep for Nigeria if you attend some polytechnic lectures

Let's see if Buhari will do somtin
He has too
He made a promise to do somtin
Dey nid govt intervention

we should call a spade a spade. Let us stop comparing hnd with bsc .

OREMUSSANCTUS:

Let's see if Buhari will do somtin
He has too
He made a promise to do somtin
Dey nid govt intervention

We dont know when PMB will return from honeymoon probably 2019 after election

Nigeria HND is equivalent to American Bsc, America apreciates it but Nigerians (most bsc holders) does not. same as portugal honouring Rasheed Yekini while Nigerian Govt. forgets him.And the funny thing is that na most of those BSc students dump pass especially in engineering and sciences

eph12:

Bros shey this one too na English?

Oh sorry. I forgot that you are suffering from bilateral anopia!

bettercreature:
We dont know when PMB will return from honeymoon probably 2019 after election

If he likes make he run, d problems will still be here and not only dat, d problem is going to be intact.
He must do somtin

OREMUSSANCTUS:

If he likes make he run, d problems will still be here and not only dat, d problem is going to be intact.
He must do somtin

That's what we hope but for now he is still clueless

tonytony208:
Your spelling of "dangerous" is enough to show you off as a poly student. Many of them cant speak or write simple and correct English; just like you have displayed here. Now, which polytechnic did you graduate from? Your school's standard must have been very poor! "Dangerious"? Queen Elizabeth must hear this!

"Can't" not "cant". You were busy pointing out his mistake, ignoring the message he was trying to pass across 'abi'?
Maybe you wanted to spell "c*nt" not "cant"

I'll rather suggest that, Bsc and Olevel should be collecting the same salaries........Abeg Uni work no else jo....ask student of UI,AUAA,OAU or FUTA.
Even to see 70K work per month no easy in this country again 80% of our youth now re involving in Internet Fraud.

Last Bullet===Its not how far but how well.

What exactly are u trying to say?

Am tired of the so called discrimination. why should one be rated above the other. even in some field of study, a polytechnic graduate is far better than a university graduate. no wonder one of my lecturer was telling me university graduate are meant to be boss and I was like 'smh' for these man.
mind you, am a uni student.

Hummm! What a public opinion! I'm proud to be a poly grad. Anyway,It's nationally believed and research has shown that practically,poly students are far better than uni students.I believe that d so-called discrimination will end soon bcs nothing is special in uni wia they do little or no practical aspect

Jakara:


Funnyme, I know that Nigeria will be incomplete without mad people like you.
For your information I have gotten my MBA from FUTO.
What I am talking is for reasonable people to contribute to the betterment of this Nation due to the dangers associated with it.
Note: this topic is not for dafts like you. Please don't see it as an insult but as an advice

"...I have gotten..."
your MBA should be reviewed

I never knew Nairalanders would be so low when it comes to matter like this.

For heaven's sake this is pure rubbish and by right giving a job out should'nt be based only on qualifications but also the ability and creativity of that person.

To be candid If this discrimination ish contnues then I think Nigerians still have a long bridge to cross before we get there

Brother, in as much as I will like to help bear ur pain, I will like to enlighten u on some issues. The university Degree and d HND are not d same. Their course content, Mode of entry, result value in d labour mkt are different. For instance,
1.) if u apply for DE with an HND, u will be admitted into 300L in d university.
2.) if u opt for postgrad, u will have to pass trou a year PGD b4 applying for Post grad while a degree holder will apply direct for post grad except if its a 3rd class.
3.) If ur foundation is HND and u latter have PHD without passing through university Degree, u can't lecture in d university, u can only b a lab technologist.

Even while we were in 500L, there is dis Prof that will tell us not to b afraid of lab tech that we can only respect dem. That wen we graduate, we become their boss.

Even d university degree u talk about, there is discrimination, we have d B.Eng, B.Tech, B.Sc, LLB, B.Edu.

Some are regarded as professional courses, d others are not.

So my brother, d university degree & d HND are not same and a such can't be treated as same.

Op, please modify your topic. Dangerious is not an English word. DANGEROUS is the right spelling.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Its not fair, both shld be equal.

As a B sc holder i havnt seen anything wrong in what he is saying hear. He is just trying to express his mind as any other member of this group. Life is a Destiny. As a B sc holder there is nothing to be proud of considering d number of graduates roaming the street looking for how to survive. While some WASC holders are their in NASS.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Buh d discrimination is too much Its not suppose to be so Its just dat we place too much emphasis on Bsc degrees.

You finally talked sense today. I thought you were always looking fit change?