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Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Syncan(m): 12:24pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
neocortex: Compare This: John Matt. 27:56. "Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children". Matt 27: 61 "And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre" With This John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene Just look at the bold in red. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by DennisEche(m): 12:25pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
witnezHD:thunder will strike you for calling the mother of Christ a ho.. I dont know your religion, if you are a muslim i reserve my coment but if you are christian then you birth is by mistake bcause honouring of Mary by Catholics is more honourable than the worshiping of your so call G.O |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Tallesty1:And not "following their teachings blindly" does make you a Catholic? Hmmm broder tallesty, you should be the one answering that question. You first qualified yourself as a Catholic. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Solozzo(m): 12:30pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Christianity has some element of sexism 1. Only acknowledges tge Father and the son. Z. Catholics unwilling to ordain females ss priests. Where there is a son there must be a mother and a father. The Holy Spirit is really the mother. It is the the feminine part of the spiritual. The son arose out of that union. This Mother is not Mary, the earthly mother of Jesus, but one may use her, Jesus and God to teach symbolicaly the three parts of the Divinity. Earthly Jesus is different from Christ or Christos, the Son in the Divinity. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by CharlieMaria(m): 12:31pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
honourhim:Do not quote the scripture out of context or mis interprete the scriptures just because you hate Mary. Now look at that passage again lk11vs27 a woman blesses the Mother of Jesus and Jesus said rather blessed is the one who hears the word of God and keep it. Now go to Lk1vs42-45 and see where the Holy spirit blessed The Virgin Mary through the mouth of St Elizabeth and in verse 45 she clearly stated and i quote:"HOW HAPPY ARE YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THE LORD'S MESSAGE TO YOU WILL COME TRUE!" Here the scriptures tells us that Mary heard the word of God and believed it and kept it. So in Lk11vs27 Jesus is rather saying, "You blessed my mother for giving birth to me but She is rather more blessed because she heard my word in Lk1vs45 and kept it. So don't open your mouth and say things you are not clear of. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by philfrey08: 12:31pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Tallesty1:Hmmmm... u r a bench-warmer.... U just go to church. U beta sit at home and play games instead of taking up the sit of someone serious who is sitting outside. Go to cathecism! No! Instead u go and play ncho for akpos house. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by ugowell: 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Some bible translations say "Yea, even more blessed are they that heed the word of God and keep it." In other words he is not saying you should not bless Mary, he is saying that it is meaningless if you simply bless her and yet not keep God's words. Which means honoring of Mary is fine, but God is the the focus. Which is why we worship God and honor/respect Mary. Secondly, remember in Luke 2:19, where Mary was said to have heard the word of God and pondered it in her heart. With that you can deduce that Mary is not just blessed because she nurtured Jesus, she is also blessed because she keeps the word of God . Unfortunately these people read the bible in contraptions, if not they would have realized that God honored Mary first, after which Elizabeth being filled with the Holy Spirit from Mary's mere greetings declared her Blessed amongst women. Mary then prophesied that from that day forward, every generation shall call her Blessed. So the woman that Blessed Mary during Jesus' sermon was merely fulfilling the prophecy by calling Mary blessed. End of story. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Syncan(m): 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
eyenibibio: Mr man substantiate your point. The bible as you have it became one book not earlier than 330AD. What was the Catholic church using in propagating and preaching Christianity before then? Stop making baseless claims, where does the bible claim that everything you need to know is inside it. Yet st. Paul told the thesselonians to "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 2Thess 2:15. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
nerilove: Your post is a silly one. Firstly, we don't use crosses, images, handkerchiefs etc. in my church. Secondly, I definitely know more about catholism than you do. God's judgement is coming on Catholics in good time because of their false worship and spiritual idolatry. I don't expect you to understand, of course. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by neocortex: 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
An2elect2: That's exactly my point , the terms "nowhere or nothing" is just a matter of semantics. Most of us instead of admitting that we don't know "how" things came about we tend to interprete "how" to mean "what brings about things". You might believe that we were created , but I am sure you don't know " how" . So if someone tries to explain the "how" based on some assumption I see no reason why you should vehemently reject it. And the idea of "something" coming from "nothing" still exist on a smaller scale in the universe as seen in the birth of stars from void. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by donefezy: 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Syncan: plz note. Verse 36 - 40 indicate that Jesus prayed 3 times @3 different times. He didn't recite while praying but prayed about same thing diff 3 times 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Mikehell(m): 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Kalatium:If to u "HONOUR" is d same as "worship", then is exodus 20 vs 12 ryt or wrong?!..... i think d bone of contention here is nt been able to define both.. N.B: i'm nt a catholic thou,jez my own perspective of d issue |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Tallesty1(m): 12:34pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
nerilove:Do You Know Why? 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Syncan(m): 12:36pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
donefezy: Mr Man, Did the bible tell you what Jesus prayed? Yes. Jesus spent a whole length of time praying, the bible simply tells us he was saying same thing. If you like expunge it from your own. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by goldenceo1: 12:36pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
neocortex: Brother When trying to understand these verses, note that the term "brother" (Greek: adelphos ) has a wide meaning in the Bible. It is not restricted to the literal meaning of a full brother or half- brother as potray by our modern defination of same father or mother. The same goes for "sister" ( adelphe ) and the plural form "brothers" ( adelphoi ). The Old Testament shows that "brother" had a wide semantic range of meaning and could refer to any male relative from whom you are not descended (male relatives from whom you are descended are known as "fathers" and who are not descended from you (your male descendants, regardless of the number of generations removed, are your "sons", as well as kinsmen such as cousins, those who are members of the family by marriage or by law rather than by blood, and even friends or mere political allies (2 Sam. 1:26; Amos 1:9). Lot, for example, is called Abraham’s "brother" (Gen. 14:14), even though, being the son of Haran, Abraham’s brother (Gen. 11:26– 28), he was actually Abraham’s nephew. Similarly, Jacob is called the "brother" of his uncle Laban (Gen. 29:15). Kish and Eleazar were the sons of Mahli. Kish had sons of his own, but Eleazar had no sons, only daughters, who married their "brethren," the sons of Kish. These "brethren" were really their cousins (1 Chr. 23:21–22). The terms "brothers," "brother," and "sister" did not refer only to close relatives. Sometimes they meant kinsmen (Deut. 23:7; Neh. 5:7; Jer. 34:9), as in the reference to the forty-two "brethren" of King Azariah (2 Kgs. 10:13–14) Mary neva has any other child n thus Jesus has no Brothers or sisters as potray by sum pastors through their myopic sight of scriptural knowledge. Proud Catholic!!! 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
ugowell: Your knowledge of scripture is warped. So only Mary kept God's word? You people believe what you want to believe. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by philfrey08: 12:37pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
PROUDLY CATHOLIC!!!! we are honoring Mary, we are honoring, we are honoring Mary we never worship her. Some pple say we worship her not at all. Everybody join the chorus honor her!!!!!!!!!! Blessed is thy womb oh holy mother Mary that bore the savior of the world. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by philfrey08: 12:38pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
PROUDLY CATHOLIC!!!! we are honoring Mary, we are honoring, we are honoring Mary we never worship her. Some pple say we worship her not at all. Everybody join the chorus honor her!!!!!!!!!! Blessed is thy womb oh holy mother Mary that bore the savior of the world. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
neocortex: Void IS something silly! |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by neocortex: 12:42pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
smurfy: Don't blame me the same "void" was used in genesis. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by eyenibibio(m): 12:44pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Syncan:The traditions Paul talked abt was the good example the Apostles set and the bible was not compiled then. Let me hear that the Catholic church was spreading what when they were busy burning and torturing people that tried to have a bible. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by donefezy: 12:45pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Syncan:yes man, the Bible made mention of what Jesus prayed about [ Matthew 26: 39 & 42 ] indicating that he prayed about samething 3 different times but didnt do recitation 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Emperoradrian(m): 12:45pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Pls Catholics dnt worship Mary,we only plead 4 Her intercession and also Honour Her 4 being blessed amongst all d women in d world....AS A LILY IS AMONGST THORNS,SO IS SHE AMONG ODA DAUGHTERS OF MEN....its nt easy to b d mother of God,or do u tink she was d only lady dat existed during her tym.....accordin to d bible,"she found favour in d sight of GOD.....David in d bible was a man after God's own Heart,and God promised Him dat d Messiah,d Everlasting King would come frm His lineage,and den Mary found favour in d sight of God,and God made Her d mother of Christ...d reason Catholics also beg 4 Her intercession in difficult situuations,is in accordance to d event at d weddin In Cana,whr d wine got finished,and d groom went to Mary and pleaded wit her to beg Her Son,Jesus gav Mary an ans"woman,my tym has nt yet com" judgin by dis we myt conclude,dat mayb if d groom had went to Jesus straight away,he myt nt get d miracle(jst sayin,im nt sure tho) in otherwords,Jesus cnt refuse his Mom anytin...i tink its easier to get to Jesus thru Mary(im a livin testimony) u can also try it@ op...dat strong bond btw Mother and Child still exist....Catholics in d forum,i hop i spoke d truth and also ur minds... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by formerlyMbulela: 12:45pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
1bunne4lif:What of the prince of the apostles? |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by 1adewoye: 12:51pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
honourhim: Then what do you have to say about those that worship amadioha? |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by 247notire(m): 12:52pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Tallesty1:Are u a christian? If u are how can you say someone is dead in the sense that they no longer have any knowledge of things happening... Some humans u see are much more than human... |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Raphael81(m): 12:53pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Read LUKE 1:48 |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by peedeeasobie(m): 12:53pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
SSPX: if we need Mary as a channel then Jesus died in vain! Tell me the grace you receive from Mary that non- catholics don't receive. Are you quoting the bible or your ideology? 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by misreal(m): 1:03pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Syncan:no matter how hard you fight the truth,you can never stop it from being truthful.you come here defending your church and her doctrines instead of working out your salvation with fear and tremble,because when a man stands before God on that great day,"my rev father lied"or"the pope lied" will not be an excuse oh.....let those that have ears hear what the spirit is saying.. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by jnrbayano(m): 1:05pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Jonathan: You are the one to think here. Help yourself. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by konoha86(m): 1:06pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
honourhim: That's the biggest problem with coniferous Christians like most who have commented here. Mary or no Mary, yu don't have to be rude. Just listen and reason to Jesus reply, her dint poke fun or insult anyone. Hate it or love it, the Bible is just another story collection that inspires opinion. What yu do wit it is ur choice, either yu eat, sleep, shit and will eventually die sometime as every human did, does and will do. Thank yu |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Syncan(m): 1:06pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
misreal: Since you are tired of accusing the brethren, you may now take your advice and "go work out your salvation in fear and trembling". Don't come here saying what you don't know about. |
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