mcpat:
Phew, started the battle segment and i have been too busy to come back on the thread. such a drab! Apologies!!!

When i say a battle i mean a battle and not saying who wins let me go first on Naruto vs Ichigo;of cause i am with naruto on this one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZzhUtKpCZ4

You make your comment based on their previous fights pitching your points on fighting strength, speed, summoning and previous battles. You can also reference pages of the manga for clarification.

Naruto has Better durability, speed(ichigo is faster), energy progection (his bijuu dama was strong enough to even out against a combined Bijuu Dama from 5 tailed beasts, and one single bijuu dama by itself can blow up a mountain with ease), strength (he punched 5 individual bijuu dama, and sent them flying pretty far, in a sec.), and all-around more versatile.

He also has different modes with different abilities and more variety from his base mode all the way to complete kyuubi mode. Sage mode is better at certain things, while kyuubi mode is better at others. Not only that, but his clone system of fighting is pretty damn good now. He's constantly using them for specific, and different purposes, AND clones can enter different modes if he wishes (One clone using Sage mode, while another uses the kyuubi chakra).

Not only that, but he has Kurama fully on his side now. So, Ichigo is really fighting the two of them. Also, their strategies are known only to them. They can pretty much work together, and Kurama makes up for all the fighting experience that Naruto might lack (although he has a lot himself).


As far as weapons go, Ichigo may have the superior weaponry for most of the match and he can quite easily dominate Naruto's base form, but Naruto's transformations will be too much for Ichigo to handle- well, maybe not Sage Mode, but Kyuubi Chakra Mode, Bijuu Mode and Six Paths Sage Mode, definitely.

There's a confirmed feat that puts Naruto at Meteorite-buster level destructive power and Moon-level durability. In the Manga, Naruto destroys meteorites using his Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken. Then, later, in The Last: Naruto The Movie, he tanks an attack that splits the moon in half, quite easily, too. This puts Naruto at a much higher level than Kenpachi who, right now, as far as i've read, is considered stronger than Ichigo. Naruto also has a healing factor and an instagib, via his Senju Cells and Gudoudama respectively.


Ichigo is smarter than Naruto, but Naruto has outsmarted and deceived opponents who are smarter AND have decades of experience on him.

Naruto wins this. Not easy, but he is pretty much superior.

Lets Battle

kimco:


Flawed logic firestar. Expected better from you seriously.

There are a thousand and one things in this world that we enjoy yet cannot do. Does it mean we can tell the good from the bad? Should I know how to draw a manga before I can critique it? I'm dissappointed in you for that comment.

firestar:


Reverse summons.
Especially Namikaze's FTG, Toad Reverse Summoning (RS) and The Snake Contract RS used by Suigetsu for Sasuke.

Mark an object or person. Then switch places(Minato vs. Kyuubi).
The Need for Speed(Minato vs. Iwagakure). Travel (Minato's FTG Squad). Catch your opponent unawares. Escape at the last moment (Deidera vs. Sasuke)
You have the element of surprise.

Deadly.

..........

Same question to you.

kimco:


Flawed logic firestar. Expected better from you seriously.

There are a thousand and one things in this world that we enjoy yet cannot do. Does it mean we can tell the good from the bad? Should I know how to draw a manga before I can critique it? I'm dissappointed in you for that comment.

slimthugchimee:
My one piece luffy vs don chinjao process drawing rate

mcpat:


Madara Summoning kurama although controlling kurama reduces its strength since the kyubi would not be fighting on its own will.

Orochi's Manda, that beast stood his ground against lady katsuya and Gamabunta, with a little tweak on manda(albeit making it ugly), Sasuke evaded Deidera's CO.

The Second Animal path of the Six path of pain, Ajisai.. Her summonings are S-class; the camouflaging chameleon and the dog that doesnt die are my best

Lastly, Narutos toad formation against pain.. Epic. With the two great toads Fukasaku and Shima riding on his back, aiding him to replenish sage chakra and battle formations. It was painful tendo pain stopped the Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant.

Happy Sunday

firestar:

I would rather see a sketch of a Neji jyuuken
Vs. Sasuke's Lion Combo.



Pein doesn't have a sense of humour. It was supposed to be " music to his ears".

kimco:


This argument will just go back and forward with no real argument. Trust me. Jux not as fun and intra- manga battles.

Tosyn007:

Haven't had that in eons have we Kim?

solodox:


oh you went and did it! now her calvary are surely gonna come get you!

firestar:


Your opinion Kimco.

It's a strategy of his and he uses it well to make you, the viewer, assume what "supposed" to be there.
This franchise has potential, yet he is deliberate in its under utilisation.



It's now a pattern. Like Izunami.
Itachi's forbidden kenjutsu.

If you don't see it, you need to be smacked upside on the head.

kimco:


What is sister madam talking about? Assume and what what? This is a spin off for kindergaten children. Thing didn't even tie up well. Where that original shin go? And jux like everything, naruto's talk no jutsu saves the day. You really must be a true kishi fan to not see how rubbish this was.

kimco:


I miss those, I really do.

kimco:


What is sister madam talking about? Assume and what what? This is a spin off for kindergaten children. Thing didn't even tie up well. Where that original shin go? And jux like everything, naruto's talk no jutsu saves the day. You really must be a true kishi fan to not see how rubbish this was.

firestar:

Le sigh.
And he misses the point, by miles.

Tosyn007:



I was wetting my dry palms waiting for this gaiden to bloom but Kilishi

kimco:


Hahahahahahahhaha. I want to believe it's cos u were a newbie that's why they ganged up on u alil. One guy said ur blood is "gan" or something. I know they'll have mercy on me, won't you, guys?

solodox:

Okay o! Buh sic vic pacem, para bellum!

kimco:


Lol but I want war. They already know that I live for e battles

solodox:


i guess this is the part where i borrow some of that fine sand that gara uses for defence, grab me some nicely buttered popcorn and a coke that doesnt have a 'share with' wrapper! this might be entertaining!

Tosyn007:


I think the crap of a story book was made for our children. Where da is Pickabeau aka Orochimaru?

kimco:


Hahahah, you guys have put the fear of God in this young man ooo.

Okay question for y'all. This thing bothered me plenty. If the weakness of sage obito was sage powers, why did the sage seal by hashirama not hold him, yet naruto's rasen sage shuriken bled him?

Whoever wants to try should try.

Tosyn007:


I think the crap of a story book was made for our children. Where da is Pickabeau aka Orochimaru?

Tosyn007:


I think the crap of a story book was made for our children. Where da is Pickabeau aka Orochimaru?

kimco:


Hahahah, you guys have put the fear of God in this young man ooo.

Okay question for y'all. This thing bothered me plenty. If the weakness of sage obito was sage powers, why did the sage seal by hashirama not hold him, yet naruto's rasen sage shuriken bled him?

Whoever wants to try should try.

Kaycee7:
Naruto had the power, Yes. But during the OVA chunnin exam, he still lost to Konohamaru due to sheer stupidity. A ninja is promoted on basis of more parameters than just strength.

P.S If you tink Sannin is a rank, then u're still academy level.

Not all Naruto fans are gamers.

kimco:
Well my fellow naruto watchers, newbies and oldies, now that the spin off is over...do you agree with me that it was very crappy? Or am I the only one that shares this view. Tosyn, graviton, ihedinobi, wacky, rapmike, firestar, pickebeau....etc.

firestar:


Your opinion Kimco.

It's a strategy of his and he uses it well to make you, the viewer, assume what "supposed" to be there.
This franchise has potential, yet he is deliberate in its under utilisation.



It's now a pattern. Like Izunami.
Itachi's forbidden kenjutsu.

If you don't see it, you need to be smacked upside on the head.

mcpat:


Okay kunoichi,

Lets go back to the basics, What is your best OP summoning and why?

slimthugchimee:
How is it