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Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by SalC: 3:37pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Jonathan:Keep beating about the bush, that's how we know people with no answers. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by engrjosefz(m): 3:37pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Many people are ignorant about the bible's teaching of Mary. In argument like this I don't talk... May God forgive all those speaking against Mary. Even God blessed,Favoured and singled her out amongst women. Jesus Never Disrespect Her. He also Honoured her Requests. If you want to condemn people not BVM. May God Absorb us from our sins. Proudly Catholic. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by dnawah(m): 3:38pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
jnrbayano:no Bros u didn't but God used u to do it.who r u to deliver?be careful o!"I WILL NEVER SHARE MY GLORY WILL ANY BODY" 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by omonnakoda: 3:39pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
honourhim:Jesus was a Jew and so cannot have sanctioned worship of his mother or of himself for that matter. In that regard Judaism and Islam are in agreement.This is just an academic point for me as I believe Africans must worship African Gods |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
jnrbayano:Cuz its to do with religion n not traditions Yes its just my opinion if i go to hell cuz i refuse to kneel to mary joseph , man, elders or whatever so be it ... It shouldn't bother u that much ... ![]() |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
LadyBoss1: the commandments never said 'not to kneel' & if that's the case then kneeling to greet elders is also worshipping I'm not a christian but I was once a catholic & they don't worship Mary neither do they worship the statues & statuettes. that's just ludicrous. whoever says that is just ignorant of their doctrines. ✘ 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by jnrbayano(m): 3:44pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
dnawah: God uses her assistance to as well.. God can use anyone he likes to perform any task...no? Mary, angels and saints assist me on matters with God...do you have any problems with that? |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:46pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
darkenedrebel:Well thats ur opinion ![]() If u like call me ignorant thats ur own biz .. If i dont want to kneel except when i pray to God its not u to decide .. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by jnrbayano(m): 3:47pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
LadyBoss1: In the same vein what we do in our religion shouldn't bother you that much too... I don't want you to go to hell by the way. ![]() |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
jnrbayano: But im also catholic sooo..., ur point is what exactly .. Kneel if u want to .. Like im not doing it deal with it ![]() 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by gladys470(f): 3:48pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
ARE you God to judge what is wrong or right... Mind your business and Worship the one you believe in .... we Nigerians ... we just carry church for head pass the British way even introduce ammm... na waaa 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Raemond(m): 3:49pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
It pains me to see Christians argue and fight over things like this. Like I have always said, the Bible isn't just a book you read and give meanings to it, we need to be spirit filled to understand the sacred words of the Bible. Humanly : thorough study of the Bible will show it to be self contradictory. For even satan quoted the Bible to Jesus in the second temptation Matt 4:5 & 6. But Jesus rebuked him again using the scripture Matt 4:7. So Brethen, if you have anything you ain't sure about, ask the right person and be open to learn........#Shalom 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by johnnyblakes(m): 3:51pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
SalC:so its either u r telling us that joseph married anothher woman that gave him children or he died never having a child fathered by him,which do u mean? 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
LadyBoss1: I didn't call you ignorant. I said Ignorant of their doctrines Alright then. ✘ |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by jnrbayano(m): 3:53pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
LadyBoss1: Not pushing you to, that's not even the point of argument. Honouring Mary, mother of Jesus who is God, is... |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
We chating bout worship n bowing to mary, empty cells jump in A n B convo talking bout elders .. Like how do the two mix ![]() |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:54pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Out of here .. U ppl just cant have healthy debate without thriwing sly digs .. N yet dey claim to go to school |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by linearity: 3:54pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
jnrbayano:Matt12:46, Lk 8:19, Mark 3:31...says Jesus' mother and brothers came to see him......Matt13:55...says James, Joseph, Simon (not Peter) and Judas (not the betrayer) were Jesus' brothers. Jn 7:1-10; Jesus' brothers went to the festival while he stayed behind. Acts 1:14; His brothers and mother were praying with the disciples. Gal 1:19; James is Jesus' brother. It is clear that Mary & Joseph birthed other kids after the miraculous conception of Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
LadyBoss1: it's an analogy.. statues are physical representations. the idea is that they[statues] helps for better in connecting with the divine. ✘ |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 4:01pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
darkenedrebel:But what did the bible say about statues .. There was no but or exceptions nor explanations Dark ur giving me headache mehn abeg free me ![]() If im wrong den let me be wrong u guys should honour whoever whats my own 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by jnrbayano(m): 4:01pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
linearity: Were they called Mary's children? |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by wildikeman(m): 4:03pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
kingsley3218:he would explain what ho means when Christ asks him what the foool called his mother |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Vodkka(m): 4:07pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
neocortex: Defence, Proofs Or Indicatuons That Presents MARY As PERPETUAL VIRGIN - Religion - Nigeria - https://www.nairaland.com/2428810/defence-proofs-indicatuons-presents-mary |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by neocortex: 4:08pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
goldenceo1: 1You seem to ignore the context of my first bolded sentence. Because if brothers is unrelated to Jesus in that verse , then we can also claim that Mary isn't related to Jesus. 2. Looking critically at that verse you know that it wasn't just referring to "brothers" in general sense, but it gave specific examples. 3.You totally ignored Mathew 1:25 , which proves that Joseph had "marital" relations with Mary after the birtyh of Jesus. Should we even agree that Mary has no other children, her having marital relations with Joseph disproves her acclaimed virginity. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 4:11pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
SSPX:u can only get to the Father (God) through his Son Jesus Christ 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Moderation: 4:11pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
May God forgive whoever initiated this topic because the person does not know the gravity of the sin he or she just comited . First of all I would have recommended Niaraland to ban such person for life from posting to this medium; but be it as it may, I wish to advise that religious matters should not be discussed here. Having said all that it will be a deservice to my conscience to quit without saying one or two things concerning the issue raised. First of all note that Catholics honour Mary and as such do not worship her. If you are conversant with the commandments of God you will recall that God asked us to honour our father and mother ; therefore, it will amount to speaking from both sides of the mouth if the same God can turn back to say we should not honour Mary as you purport. I will rather attribute your lack of clear understanding of the passage to maybe your poor understanding of the old fashioned words used in the passage. Therefore, it is pertinent to use basic english for your clearer understanding. The Basic English Version of the Bible reads : Luke: 11. 27. And it came about that when he said these things, a certain woman among the people said in a loud voice, Happy is the body which gave you birth, and the breasts from which you took milk. 28. But he said, More happy are they who give hearing to the word of God and keep it. From this passage, God did not oppose what the woman said rather added that more happy are they who give hearing to the word of God and keep it of which Mary is the leader as exemplified in the scenarios that lead to the giving birth to the Christ Jesus. Going back to the version you used, 'yea' as used was used in affirmative and in agreement ; I therefore, wonder why your understanding is in the contrary. THANK YOU ALL. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by bashsani(m): 4:12pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
There is really nothing in kneeling/prostrating or even worshiping the mother of God she deserves it but Jesus is not God he is a prophet like Abraham Moses ND co so why worship man |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by neocortex: 4:14pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
An2elect2: 1. Where did you get that from ? 2. You know the major aim of the bible is not to explain how things came about but to teach how to live life successfully and prepare for eternity. So , very curious minds can't get their answers exclusively from the bible , they need to excercise their intellect to answer some thoughts provoking questions even though the answers might be incomplete. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
God used Mary as a vessel ... that doesn't mean.. u should worship Mary.. Mary fought for her salvation like the rest of the good people in the Bible.. he simply used her and blessed her.. so Mary was just a mortal being.. thank you 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
charlsecy:@bolded what is it exactly that makes you a Catholic? In that case, you provide the person with some information that saves their life. That is purely a physical act. Now see, assuming the name of the person who provided the life-saving information was James, would you now start saying in your prayers, "Oh James, despise not my petitions in my necessities, but deliver me always from all dangers?" How about millions of people praying to James for protection or deliverance from all dangers? If one billion Catholics ask Mary for protection, how could she respond to each and every of the requests?I honestly don't get your point here. I don't think the Bible records her death just like many others. There are many characters in the Bible whose end the Bible says nothing about. Perhaps, that's not the interest of the Word of GOD.I am a Catholic and Catholics don't base their doctrinal teachings on the bible alone but on both the bible and the traditions of the church. The bible indeed does not mention anything of Mary's death like it didn't of many other characters in the bible. But the bible did mention of other characters who indeed never met their end and that to me is proof that it is indeed possible for God in his infinite power to prevent human's from seeing death. If you want my reason why I believe mary indeed never saw death I am more than willing to share that with you but to state definitely that Mary is dead without proof seems to me to be a complete fallacy. Mary indeed, is blessed and gracious, but we shouldn't pray to her for deliverance.You my friend are the who doesn't seem to understand the difference between the two. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Emmarchie09(m): 4:23pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Please read patiently: "And when they saw him, they were. Amazed: and his mother said unto him, son, why has thou thus dealt with us? Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, how is it that ye sought me? Wist ye not that I must be about my father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them" (Luke 2:48-50). "Then one said unto him, behold thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, who is my mother? And who are my brethren? ... Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever will do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother" (Matt. 12:47-50). "And when he saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he said unto his mother, woman, behold thy son! Then said he to the disciple, behold thy mother!" (John 19:26-27). "These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his bretheren" (Acts 1:14). "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Gal. 1:8-9; Rev. 22:18-19). Not my words. God bless you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by bilulu(m): 4:26pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Tallesty1:all d prayers re for her intercession |
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