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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:45am On Jul 08, 2015
Henry120:

According to the Infographic in this link, half of the South-African population live in poverty.




http://mg.co.za/data/2015-02-05-infographic-poverty-in-south-africa

Yes, according to the South African definition of poverty

If our definition pushes the world bank figure of 9% to 39%

The think for a second what would happen if we applied our definition to your world bank figure of 33%...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:46am On Jul 08, 2015
Poverty has risen in Nigeria, with almost 100 million people living on less than a $1 (£0.63) a day, despite economic growth, statistics have shown. The National Bureau of Statistics said 60.9% of Nigerians in 2010 were living in "absolute poverty" - this figure had risen from 54.7% in 2004. The bureau predicted this rising trend was likely to continue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17015873

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:49am On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Bwhahahaha grin grin

It's not a loan, its .....

"The package includes the sharing of $1.6 billion dividend and $500m tax by the Nigerian Liquefied Natural Gas Limited paid between the federal and state governments." http://www.punchng.com/news/bailout-workers-others-warn-govs-against-wasteful-spending/

.....income from shares dividend investment of a petro-gas company NLNG and taxes revenue.

Sure you cannot read and understand public finanace/financial accounting, due to the poor education you get from fine schools in South Africa.

Then state governments having salary problem is not a federal problem, afteral, states do not fund military or police, those are funded by federal annual budget.

If federal government of Nigeria has $ 3o billion cash reserve and refuses to spend it, and is getting paid income of $ 2 billion bulk money form business investment and tax revenue to give the states, then Nigeria is not broke.

i have always said, that me as an accountant, can professionaly say that Buhari is wrong to say Nigeria is bankrupt, a bankrupt man does not dish out billions of dollars cash to help others.

Southies, eat the humble pie, you were all WRONG grin grin
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Augustus

You have simply rerouted money that was earmarked for something else

That means that somewhere in your buget someone just lost out on $1,6 billion

And that is money to plug the hole

That does not stop the real problem - at different levels of government you are spending more money than you make

So, like we said - its austerity time!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:50am On Jul 08, 2015
EVarn:
BRICS
Broke Repressive International Criminal Syndicates

Someone seems butthurt
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:51am On Jul 08, 2015
SANDF WOMEN

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:52am On Jul 08, 2015
SANDF

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:02am On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:

Someone seems butthurt
It has nothing to do with butthurtism,BRICS is a dumb-ball society of plummeting economies{except china and india}
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:15am On Jul 08, 2015
Centre for Public Integrity, a US-based non-profit investigative news organisation, has published a report which says that South Africa has enough nuclear explosives to fuel half-a-dozen bombs.

According to the report, the nuclear explosives are locked in a former silver vault at the Pelindaba Nuclear Research Centre close to the Hartbeespoort Dam.

Pelindaba is operated by The South African Nuclear Energy Corporation, and was were South Africa’s atomic weapons under apartheid were developed, built, and stored.

These explosives were created by the apartheid government as part of its nuclear weapons programme. According to a report by Marcus Duvenhage, South Africa had six nuclear devices, and was busy constructing a seventh, by the time the programme stopped.

South Africa ended its nuclear weapons programme in 1989, and these weapons were dismantled.

However, the highly-enriched uranium fuel was extracted, melted down, and cast into ingots.

The report states that roughly 220kg of this fuel remains, and that South Africa is “keeping a tight grip on it”.

This weapons-grade nuclear fuel means South Africa can easily become a nuclear state again. However, the biggest concern to the United States is that it will be stolen by militants and used in a terrorist attack.

According to U.S. officials and experts, South Africa’s nuclear explosives are among the most vulnerable in the world to theft by terrorists.

U.S. officials further argue that South Africa has no clear rationale for holding its nuclear explosive materials, because it no longer needs them to make medical isotopes.

The Centre for Public Integrity said that US President Barack Obama twice directly asked the South African president to relinquish this weapons-grade uranium. However, the SA president did not oblige.

The full report is available here: South Africa rebuffs repeated U.S. demands that it relinquish its nuclear explosives

Dismantling of SA’s atomic bombs
In a 2012 interview former SA president FW De Klerk said that soon after the fall of the Berlin Wall they decided to announce the dismantling of South Africa’s atomic bombs.

“We announced as soon as possible that we had broken those [nuclear] bombs down, [and] that we could account for every milli-milli-milli-milligram of material,” said de Klerk.

He added that they “would open all facilities to full inspection by the International Atomic Agency, and that is exactly what we did.”

http://fireworksdisplay.org/tags/south-africa-refuses-to-let-go-of-its-nuclear-explosives.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:16am On Jul 08, 2015
Enough nuclear explosive to fuel a half-a-dozen bombs, each powerful enough to obliterate central Washington or most of lower Manhattan, is locked in a former silver vault at this nuclear research center near the South African capital.

Technicians extracted the highly-enriched uranium from the apartheid regime’s nuclear weapons in 1990, then melted the fuel down and cast it into ingots. Over the years some of the cache has been used to make medical isotopes, but roughly 485 pounds remains, and South Africa is keeping a tight grip on it.

That gives this country — which has insisted that the United States and other world powers completely destroy their nuclear arsenals – a theoretical ability to regain its former status as a nuclear-weapons state. But what really worries the United States is that the nuclear explosives here could be stolen and used by militants to commit the worst terror attack in history.

Senior current and former U.S. officials say they have reason to be concerned. On a cold night in November of 2007, two teams of raiders breached the fences here at the Pelindaba research center, set in the rolling scrubland a half-hour’s drive west of Pretoria, the country's administrative capital. One group penetrated deep into the site unchallenged and broke into the site’s central alarm station. They were stopped only because a substitute watch officer summoned others.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/03/14/16873/south-africa-rebuffs-repeated-us-demands-it-relinquish-its-nuclear-explosives

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 11:27am On Jul 08, 2015
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-39813/

DENEL SEEKER II SHOT DOWN IN YEMEN

A Denel Dynamics Seeker II unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was apparently shot down over Yemen last week.

Footage broadcast by the Al-Masirah news channel on 5 July showed what appears to be a Seeker II, with a component containing an identification plate saying "Made in South Africa Carl Zeiss Optronics Pty Ltd."

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 11:55am On Jul 08, 2015
SAAF Rooivalk Gun Cam - Hitting moving target


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH5_m2PUWyQ

africandefence.net

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 12:04pm On Jul 08, 2015
SAAF Hawk drops Umbani bomb kit (at 40 000 feet) 40 km away from target. Tails it to the target. On board Umbani footage as well. Pin point accuracy. Fvcken cool video. Got to love South African engineering wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbTabCqNsI

africandefence.net

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jul 08, 2015
ddami:
Nov 2008, sectarian riot between Christian and Muslims in jos killing at least 300....
Jos, a state in middle-belt Nigeria,, with complex issues...
And? Don't make your problem ours!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:04pm On Jul 08, 2015
jln115:

And? Don't make your problem ours!
what do you mean by *make our problems yours ** has Nigeria's riots/terrorist attack ever been your problem?.....
how is it affecting you ?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:21pm On Jul 08, 2015
ddami:
what do you mean by *make our problems yours ** has Nigeria's riots/terrorist attack ever been your problem?.....
how is it affecting you ?
What i mean is you Nigerians always use it as an excuse for being ranked below us in everything....Well that and the fact that South Africa has white people!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:57pm On Jul 08, 2015
mzilakazi:


Foreigners do not pay tax in South Africa.

Citation needed. I am not aware that Nigerian doctors, nurses, teachers, shop owners, etc have tax exemption by South African laws.

Prove it.


mzilakazi:


They steal our money.

http://praag.org/?p=6299

Your source says "
Mozambican and Swazi citizens who illegally receive social grants in South Africa are causing congestion at pay points in Mpumalanga."

Well, Swaziland in right inside South Africa, and Mozambique is at your border, so how does that concern Nigerians who fly 5,000 km to enter with a visa?

Mumu.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2015
jln115:

What i mean is you Nigerians always use it as an excuse for being ranked below us ....Well that and the fact that South Africa has white people!
MODIFIED:: below us exclude IN EVERYTHING...
its not an excuse its the fact asides BH Nigeria is a peaceful country.....
'*the fact that south Africa has white people*' - expantiate,,
is that an excuse why YOU think s.a is peaceful OR
why you are ranked LOW...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2015
ssaengine:
SAAF Hawk drops Umbani bomb kit (at 40 000 feet) 40 km away from target. Tails it to the target. On board Umbani footage as well. Pin point accuracy. Fvcken cool video. Got to love South African engineering wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbTabCqNsI

africandefence.net

The claim is range 120 km, why not test it for 120 km?

There are many 50km range guided bombs used all over the world, and many guided bombs are battle tested, so what's the fuss about Al-Tariq?

A Roland SAM will s.hoot down your Al-Tariq bomb with ease. Your Hawk jets need escort or else F-7 jets will eat them for dinner
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:02pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed. I am not aware that Nigerian doctors, nurses, teachers, shop owners, etc have tax exemption by South African laws.

Prove it.




Your source says "
Mozambican and Swazi citizens who illegally receive social grants in South Africa are causing congestion at pay points in Mpumalanga."

Well, Swaziland is right inside South Africa, and Mozambique is at your border, so how does that concern Nigerians who fly 5,000 km to enter with a visa?

Mumu.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:05pm On Jul 08, 2015
vandalZA:
how can you collect tax from a drug lords! DUMMY!

Every foreigner is a drug lord? Including doctors, teachers, office workers, factory workers? Only drug lords live in South Africa?

Mumu you are.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07pm On Jul 08, 2015
vandalZA:
DUMMY show us a link from world bank....not that self created link!

Why? You Southies rejected world bank report that says Nigeria's poverty level is lower than other sources claimed.

So why do you want world bank for yourself only, and CIA factbook as source for Nigeria?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:08pm On Jul 08, 2015
vandalZA:
DUMMY show us a link from world bank....not that self created link!

Why? You Southies rejected world bank report that says Nigeria's poverty level is lower than other sources claimed.

So why do you want world bank for yourself only, and CIA factbook as source for Nigeria?

50% of South Africans live in poverty.

#PROVED tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:10pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


The claim is range 120 km, why not test it for 120 km?

There are many 50km range guided bombs used all over the world, and many guided bombs are battle tested, so what's the fuss about Al-Tariq?

A Roland SAM will s.hoot down your Al-Tariq bomb with ease. Your Hawk jets need escort or else F-7 jets will eat them for dinner
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How do you know it has not been tested at that range? How do you know the Video does not show a launch at that range?

The Fuss is that Al-Tariq is a class leader

Roland will shoot it down? You have 16 Rolands with two missiles - thats 32 SAM's you can launch, assuming an impossible 100% hit rate it means that your defenses will be overwhelmed by just 17 Hawks - we have 24 (meaning we can launch a total of 48 Al-Tariq with Hawks alone, meaning that 16 Al-Tariq will make it through your defences in each raid)

Dont talk to me about your Roland re-loads as those are not available on the AMX chassis. And fact of the matter is that your missiles are expired (just like the Iraqi ones found in 2004 which were sold at the same time as yours)

Yes, they will have Gripen Escort
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:11pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Why? You Southies rejected world bank report that says Nigeria's poverty level is lower than other sources claimed.

So why do you want world bank for yourself only, and CIA factbook as source for Nigeria?

50% of South Africans live in poverty.

#PROVED tongue tongue
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According to World Bank 9% of South Africans and 33% of Nigerians live in poverty

#Proved5PagesAgo

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jul 08, 2015
Terrified Nigerian soldier giving account of his cowardly narrow escape from the better trained and motivated boko goats.

Here he briefs his commander on his traumatic escape, while receiving trauma counseling from well Renowned Nigerian Army Psychologist who is currently overburdened by soldiers who are going through this horror on a daily basis.

The psychologist told reporters afterwards that he feels overwhelmed by the trauma his fellow soldiers go through and he hopes the new Buhari Federal Administration would heed the call for more Psychologists deployments to effected areas especially army barracks.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:25pm On Jul 08, 2015
DictatorZAR:


Far better then wearing woman clothes and escape.

The man in your photo is a Boko Haram fighter disguised in women's clothes captured by Nigerian army grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 2:25pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


The claim is range 120 km, why not test it for 120 km?

There are many 50km range guided bombs used all over the world, and many guided bombs are battle tested, so what's the fuss about Al-Tariq?

A Roland SAM will s.hoot down your Al-Tariq bomb with ease. Your Hawk jets need escort or else F-7 jets will eat them for dinner
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Dustin post. How many of those long range guided weapons does Nigeria have? Zero. You dont have to argue every singe post on here, just enjoy the video and move on.

The fuss is that it's a precision long range guided weapon that many countries wish they had. Nigeria wouldn't want such a weapon? Ok then.

120km is achieved using an add on booster. During a testing regime you dont just jump to test the weapon at max range. It's incremental testing, at different ranges, and different flight profiles. You should know that. You are free to ask Denel/SAAF for more videos, many of which are classified.

Yes that's how the weapon is too be used. The Hawks are tens of kilometers behind the Gripens which provide GPS locations for target. Once released the Hawks break away, back into safe airspace.

You are free to have a Umbani/Roland argument with someone else. There are more than 16 (number of Roland systems) high value military and strategic targets to hit in any war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:26pm On Jul 08, 2015
DictatorZAR:
Terrified Nigerian soldier giving account of his cowardly narrow escape from the better trained and motivated boko goats.

Here he briefs his commander on his traumatic escape, while receiving trauma counseling from well Renowned Nigerian Army Psychologist who is currently overburdened by soldiers who are going through this horror on a daily basis.

The psychologist told reporters afterwards that he feels overwhelmed by the trauma his fellow soldiers go through and he hopes the new Buhari Federal Administration would heed the call for more Psychologists deployments to effected areas especially army barracks.


Bwahahaha… Is that not agaugust?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:29pm On Jul 08, 2015
DictatorZAR:
Terrified Nigerian soldier giving account of his cowardly narrow escape from the better trained and motivated boko goats.

Here he briefs his commander on his traumatic escape, while receiving trauma counseling from well Renowned Nigerian Army Psychologist who is currently overburdened by soldiers who are going through this horror on a daily basis.

The psychologist told reporters afterwards that he feels overwhelmed by the trauma his fellow soldiers go through and he hopes the new Buhari Federal Administration would heed the call for more Psychologists deployments to effected areas especially army barracks.

Boko Haram fighter disguised in women's clothes, being interrogated by gallant Nigerian troops who captured him alive in battle, he is not a Nigerian soldier, our troops do NOT grow heavy beards like a Osama Bin Laden, your photo is actually a record of Nigerian army bravery and achievement in battle.....SANDF could not even capture one Seleka rebel, yet you claimed to have won a battle you were fleeing from like houseflies grin grin

Thanks for posting those photos to the credit of Nigerian army achievement on battlefield.

DENEL needs to manufacture courage syrup for SANDF to stop your soldiers pissing inside trousers all over Sudan grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:33pm On Jul 08, 2015
ssaengine:


Dustin post. How many of those long range guided weapons does Nigeria have? Zero. You dont have to argue every singe post on here, just enjoy the video and move on.

The fuss is that it's a precision long range guided weapon that many countries wish they had. Nigeria wouldn't want such a weapon? Ok then.

120km is achieved using an add on booster. During a testing regime you dont just jump to test the weapon at max range. It's incremental testing, at different ranges, and different flight profiles. You should know that. You are free to ask Denel/SAAF for more videos, many of which are classified.

Yes that's how the weapon is too be used. The Hawks are tens of kilometers behind the Gripens which provide GPS locations for target. Once released the Hawks break away, back into safe airspace.

You are free to have a Umbani/Roland argument with someone else. There are more than 16 (number of Roland systems) high value military and strategic targets to hit in any war.

16 Roland, only one single Roland defended a whole airport in Falkland war, it s.hot down every British bomb and jet that came to attack.

How does South Africa defend it's own high value targets? You have NOTHING close to the power of a Roland.

Gripen jets get s.hot down by F-7, so your Hawks will be eaten up as well. SAAF cannot fly Hawks against NAF, try it with Rwanda instead.

I responded to your post, same way you Southies respond when we post Nigerian made APC or Drones. Simple tit for tat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jul 08, 2015
Patchesagain:


According to World Bank 9% of South Africans and 33% of Nigerians live in poverty

#Proved5PagesAgo

According to the world bank, your Poverty is 39%, South-African sources put poverty at 50%

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