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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 2:36pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


[s]16 Roland, only one single Roland defended a whole airport in Falkland war, it s.hot down every British bomb and jet that came to attack.

How does South Africa defend it's own high value targets? You have NOTHING close to the power of a Roland.

Gripen jets get s.hot down by F-7, so your Hawks will be eaten up as well. SAAF cannot fly Hawks against NAF, try it with Rwanda instead.

I responded to your post, same way you Southies respond when we post Nigerian made APC or Drones. Simple tit for tat. [/s]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:37pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Every foreigner is a drug lord? Including doctors, teachers, office workers, factory workers? Only drug lords live in South Africa?

Mumu you are.
help me ask the guy oooo I don tire....to him
FOREIGNERS == DRUG LORD

if you are not a South African you are a drug lord
*just peeping **
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Accidents happen

I find it ironic that you are so obsessed with western crashes when nigeria has such a shocking record

Nigeria has only one crash in 6,000 combat flights. Better record than America.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Yes, according to the South African definition of poverty

If our definition pushes the world bank figure of 9% to 39%

The think for a second what would happen if we applied our definition to your world bank figure of 33%...


Your country's. Definition of poverty is$1.20, that's nothing to be proud of.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Yes, according to the South African definition of poverty

If our definition pushes the world bank figure of 9% to 39%

The think for a second what would happen if we applied our definition to your world bank figure of 33%...

..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:49pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Yes, according to the South African definition of poverty

If our definition pushes the world bank figure of 9% to 39%

The think for a second what would happen if we applied our definition to your world bank figure of 33%...

Nope am not accepting that world bank figure of 9% ... you should post a link or something
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Accidents happen

I find it ironic that you are so obsessed with western crashes when nigeria has such a shocking record

In 8,000 combat sorties in support of operation zaman lafiya, Nigeria has only lost 1 Alpha jet.



Why question to you is, why do western jets keep falling off the sky like mosquitos, is there an insecticide up there?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 2:51pm On Jul 08, 2015
Henry120:


Your country's. Definition of poverty is[b]$1.20[/b], that's nothing to be proud of.


From my personal experience of two countries, Nigeria is more worse than South African in terms of poverty. Almost everyone is poor in Enugu and Lagos. South Africa has various forms of poverty relieve policies which Nigeria does not have. You get free money in South Africa if you have a child and you are not employed. Elderly get grants. Those who are disabled and terminally sick get free grants in South Africa. Indeed poverty in SA is much better than the rest of Africa. I wish if Africa can learn from South Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jul 08, 2015
ddami:
help me ask the guy oooo I don tire....to him
FOREIGNERS == DRUG LORD

if you are not a South African you are a drug lord
*just peeping **

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/01/07/nigerian-drug-ring-bust-in-johannesburg

Yes 7/10 nigerian in SA are drug lords the rest are either false prophets, fake doctors, car thiefs, yahoo boys,poor hawkers and social grant recipients.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12463335

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:01pm On Jul 08, 2015
Not all countries give pension to the old aged. In South Africa every elderly aged 60 and above qualify to be granted monthly pension to take care of themselves. This is not the case anywhere in Africa where elderly get nothing from the government for their welfare.


South Africa is the king.

https://www.westerncape.gov.za/service/old-age-pension-old-persons-grant

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:07pm On Jul 08, 2015
Raising ophans is often a difficult tusk especially where the parents left nothing behind for the education and welfare of their children. In South Africa, this does not seem to be a much of a challenging task. The foster parents will only have to apply for a forster child grant and receive every month the grants from the state for the wellbeing of orphans. Nigeria does not have anything of this nature and orphans will most likely suffer at the hands of their relatives.


http://www.sassa.gov.za/index.php/social-grants/foster-child-grant
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 3:13pm On Jul 08, 2015
Henry120:


In 8,000 combat sorties in support of operation zaman lafiya, Nigeria has only lost 1 Alpha jet.



Why question to you is, why do western jets keep falling off the sky like mosquitos, is there an insecticide up there?

8000 combat sorties in what time span? And is this only for fixed wing jets?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:14pm On Jul 08, 2015
Being disabled often proves very difficult living in countries that do little or nothing for the care of disabled and those who are suffering from chronic diseases. In SA, all that it is an exception, thanks to monthly disability grant.


http://www.sassa.gov.za/index.php/social-grants/disability-grant
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:15pm On Jul 08, 2015
Patchesagain:


How do you know it has not been tested at that range? How do you know the Video does not show a launch at that range?

The Fuss is that Al-Tariq is a class leader

Roland will shoot it down? You have 16 Rolands with two missiles - thats 32 SAM's you can launch, assuming an impossible 100% hit rate it means that your defenses will be overwhelmed by just 17 Hawks - we have 24 (meaning we can launch a total of 48 Al-Tariq with Hawks alone, meaning that 16 Al-Tariq will make it through your defences in each raid)

Dont talk to me about your Roland re-loads as those are not available on the AMX chassis. And fact of the matter is that your missiles are expired (just like the Iraqi ones found in 2004 which were sold at the same time as yours)

Yes, they will have Gripen Escort

F-7 fights off Gripen with ease, the Hawks be trapped in a contested air space with missiles flying all over !

@Saengine said the Al Tariq was launched at 40 km and thats all the evidence available.

South African data cannot be trusted, your country tells lies at random.

Roland remains in service with Nigeria and many countries that bought at the same time, we still display them on parade, and we have posted photos of soldiers recently carrying Roland missiles into the vehicle in their regiment. No country with common sense will deploy expired missiles into an air defence regiment. You need to show us a proof of anybody's missiles being expired, or are you their maintenance officer?

All mobile Rolands carry 10 missiles standard, no source ever said it's 2 missiles total, they all say 2 missiles ready and 8 in reserve magazines, the AMX-30 is a tank chassis of an MBT that carries 47 shells inside the vehicle.

Foolish half witted Patches, he thinks the space for 47 tank shells cannot contain 8 small missiles....old man fool grin grin

"The Roland missile is a two-stage solid propellant unit 2.4 meters long with a weight of 66.5 kg including the 6.5 kg multiple hollow-charge fragmentation warhead which contains 3.5 kg of explosive detonated by impact or proximity fuses. The 65 projectile charges have a lethal radius of 6 meters. Cruising speed is Mach 1.6. The missile is delivered in a sealed container which is also the launch tube. Each launcher carries two launch tubes with 8 more inside the vehicle or shelter with automatic reloading in 10 seconds."

"Two arm-beams for launching carry each one a missile in its launching tube, and two ammunition stores for munitions each contain one 4 shot mechanism for automatic unloading of the arm-beam. The crew of the vehicle consists of three man."

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Fool of Gauteng, 16 Rolands will launch 160 missiles in about 90 seconds rapid fire !

@Patches thought Roland has only 2 missiles.....his 50 million countrymen have never seen anything like a Roland in South Africa, he needs to travel to Lagos to see one in his life time grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:19pm On Jul 08, 2015
ssaengine:


8000 combat sorties in what time span? And is this only for fixed wing jets?

9 months.

Combat, Transport and Surveillance.

Fixed and Rotary wing assets.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:19pm On Jul 08, 2015
Government of Nigeria can never build you a free house if you are poor. Well, in SA we just only dance for RDP programme that helped to clear many slums around South African townships.

South Africa you are a king.

http://www.southafrica.info/about/social/housing-230513.htm#.VZ0wsTPRY8o
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:23pm On Jul 08, 2015
In Nigeria no doctor can attend to you if you don't have money. In SA it is different, all clinics and public hospital offer free health care to the public.

http://www.southafrica.info/about/health/health.htm#.VZ0xzTPRY8o
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 3:26pm On Jul 08, 2015
Henry120:


9 months.

Combat, Transport and Surveillance.

Fixed and Rotary wing assets.

Then your figure of 1 Alpha crash cannot be put into perspective using 8000 hours. If you have hours and time span for fast jets only, then it can.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:30pm On Jul 08, 2015
In Nigeria a child will be forced to pay for school fees and sent back home with an empty stomach irrespective of her or his poor background.

In Mzansi basic education is free and children are as well fed free break fast and lunch.


http://www.etu.org.za/toolbox/docs/government/feeding.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:33pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Augustus

You have simply rerouted money that was earmarked for something else

That means that somewhere in your buget someone just lost out on $1,6 billion


Show source to prove that dividend income was earmarked for something else, since you are Nigeria's budget and planning minister. Prove it
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:33pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


[s]F-7 fights off Gripen with ease, the Hawks be trapped in a contested air space with missiles flying all over !

@Saengine said the Al Tariq was launched at 40 km and thats all the evidence available.

South African data cannot be trusted, your country tells lies at random.

Roland remains in service with Nigeria and many countries that bought at the same time, we still display them on parade, and we have posted photos of soldiers recently carrying Roland missiles into the vehicle in their regiment. No country with common sense will deploy expired missiles into an air defence regiment. You need to show us a proof of anybody's missiles being expired, or are you their maintenance officer?

All mobile Rolands carry 10 missiles standard, no source ever said it's 2 missiles total, they all say 2 missiles ready and 8 in reserve magazines, the AMX-30 is a tank chassis of an MBT that carries 47 shells inside the vehicle.

Foolish half witted Patches, he thinks the space for 47 tank shells cannot contain 8 small missiles....old man fool grin grin

"The Roland missile is a two-stage solid propellant unit 2.4 meters long with a weight of 66.5 kg including the 6.5 kg multiple hollow-charge fragmentation warhead which contains 3.5 kg of explosive detonated by impact or proximity fuses. The 65 projectile charges have a lethal radius of 6 meters. Cruising speed is Mach 1.6. The missile is delivered in a sealed container which is also the launch tube. Each launcher carries two launch tubes with 8 more inside the vehicle or shelter with automatic reloading in 10 seconds."

"Two arm-beams for launching carry each one a missile in its launching tube, and two ammunition stores for munitions each contain one 4 shot mechanism for automatic unloading of the arm-beam. The crew of the vehicle consists of three man."

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

Fool of Gauteng, 16 Rolands will launch 160 missiles in about 90 seconds rapid fire !

@Patches thought Roland has only 2 missiles.....his 50 million countrymen have never seen anything like a Roland in South Africa, he needs to travel to Lagos to see one in his life time grin grin[/s]
.

1. No an F7 will not do that - dont be ludicrous
2. South Africa does not tell lies just because the facts hurt your argument. The range Denel says it has is the range it is capable of.
3. Iraq bought their missiles at the same time as you, and when found in 2004 or so (about a decade ago) they were expired
4. How many missiles can the Roland guide in the air?

Roland is obsolete junk with expired missiles, 17 Hawks alone will overwhelm your entire air defence network
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jul 08, 2015
DictatorZAR:


http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/01/07/nigerian-drug-ring-bust-in-johannesburg

Yes 7/10 nigerian in SA are drug lords the rest are either false prophets, fake doctors, car thiefs, yahoo boys,poor hawkers and social grant recipients.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12463335
Your links just wrote 'Nigerians' don't they have NAMES, when Indonesia executed nig.. we knew their names including pictures...

*7/10 Nigerians are drug lords - and to think you will still grant a NIGERIAN visa tomorrow,, what do you call that...
*Fake prophets - well I know you love T.B Joshua.,
*Yahoo boys - well they are smart (in a negative manner)....,
*Poor hawkers - its called hustling... Nigerians are not lazy....
*Social grant - ohh spare me that crap,, u guyz are just charitable,, or did they beg you for social grants...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Show source to prove that dividend income was earmarked for something else, since you are Nigeria's budget and planning minister. Prove it
.

Was the money pulled out of thin air?

No?

Then somewhere else in your budgets and financial set-up is now short $1 billion dollars.

Your own president said you were broke. Is he a liar?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:37pm On Jul 08, 2015
Thiza:
SANDF WOMEN

Compare battle-tested Nigerian army women that will defeat your men, not to talk of your women who know nothing but casual s.ex.
.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
The government of Nigeria can never buy you food stuffs even if you like. South African gov is an exception. It gives free foodstuffs irrespective of whether you receive grants or not.

http://www.foodbank.org.za/what-we-do
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
Msauza:
In Nigeria a child will be forced to pay for school fees and sent back home with an empty stomach irrespective of her or his poor background.

In Mzansi basic education is free and children are as well fed free break fast and lunch.


http://www.etu.org.za/toolbox/docs/government/feeding.html
are you mduza......

but you are talking TRASH, I guess its your imagination...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
patches689:


Augustus

You have simply rerouted money that was earmarked for something else

That means that somewhere in your buget someone just lost out on $1,6 billion

And that is money to plug the hole

That does not stop the real problem - at different levels of government you are spending more money than you make

So, like we said - its austerity time!!

Money Jonathan left, this is Federal government not state government reserve.

Reserves = $ 30 billion

ECA (Excess crude account) = $ 2 Billion

SWF (sovereign wealth fund) = $1 billion

LNG Remittance. = $ 5 billion


So tell us how the Federal government is broke?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:39pm On Jul 08, 2015
Henry120:


Money Jonathan left, this is Federal government not state government reserve.

Reserves = $ 30 billion

ECA (Excess crude account) = $ 2 Billion

SWF (sovereign wealth fund) = $1 billion

LNG Remittance. = $ 5 billion


So tell us how the Federal government is broke?

Now that they are fitting the states bill the will be grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:40pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Compare battle-tested Nigerian army women that will defeat your men, not to talk of your women who know nothing but casual s.ex.
.

Untrained pesants who are only able to defeat a cassava
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:40pm On Jul 08, 2015
Patchesagain:


Was the money pulled out of thin air?

No?

Then somewhere else in your budgets and financial set-up is now short $1 billion dollars.

Your own president said you were broke. Is he a liar?

He is broke and dishing our $ 2 billion from dividend income on company shares investment.

LOL.....he is a politician and politicians tell lies all over the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:41pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Compare battle-tested Nigerian army women that will defeat your men, not to talk of your women who know nothing but casual s.ex.
.


Boko haram once kidnapped them and enjoyed from their fruit.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jul 08, 2015
agaugust:


Compare battle-tested Nigerian army women that will defeat your men, not to talk of your women who know nothing but casual s.ex.
.
grin *casual sex*.....

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