agaugust:


Bush war propaganda does not prove anything.

Did you have Al-Tariq bomb in bush war? The bomb has NEVER seen battle except in dreamland
.

we had the Al-Tariq's ancestors

and they were effective

You are still using bush war era SAM's

our Al-Tariq is latest technology

Which will be more effective?

agaugust:


Your FLIR or targeting pod has 120 km stand off range? No

Blow up bridge, enemy uses bridge layers or reconstruction. To blow up runway, ammo depot, etc you are attacking heavily defended targets, either your guided bomb or Hawk jet or both, will be eaten up by enemy air defenses.

# Tried Again Failed Again
.

GPS–INS for long range guidance, imaging infrared or a semi-active laser seeker for final phase attack... or just GPS-INS for the entire approach if we are hitting static targets

Ok, we blow your bridge, you fix it... we blow it again

Heavily defended? You have 16 Rolands... how many ammo dumps, forward bases, airstrips, bridges, ammo dumps, HQ's etc will you deploy in a full scale war? How much infrastructure is present in any one place?

To defend against a full scale attack from Hawks (25 with 4 Al-Tariq each) you need to deploy 12 Rolands... and that is assuming an impossible 100% hit rate for the Roland

It is impossible for you to defend a full sized formation from us, your Rolands will be clustered around one or two vital points, leaving the rest of your military infastructure exposed for attack

lezz:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations

  [b]
South Africa praises Nigerian military for its apartheid-era help

by defenceWeb, February 9, 11:54 pm

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) foreign relations head has praised the Nigerian Armed forces for its strong relationship with the South African military.


Major General Daniel Mofokeng, head of SANDF Foreign Relations, said Nigeria was in the forefront in the struggle against apartheid and that the country made huge sacrifices for the liberation of South Africa from minority rule.

Nigeria supported the then Frontline States organisation, which was established to achieve democratic majority rule in South Africa. Former members included Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe. According to the South African Institute of International Affairs, Namibia contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort between the 1980s and 1994.

Nigeria played a pivotal role in establishing the United Nations Special Committee against Apartheid in the 1960s while ordinary Nigerians contributed financially to the anti-apartheid movement, especially in reaction to the 1976 Soweto uprisings.

Mofokeng said that Nigeria also offered military training and support to assist the African National Congress. According to him, Nigeria's gesture helped shore up relations between Abuja and Pretoria.

"I must say the relations between the two countries most especially before 1994; has been extra ordinary in the sense that Nigeria has been in the forefront in the anti-apartheid struggle. It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".

"The Nigerian Armed Forces' very intimidating credentials, in terms of its military professionalism, is exemplified by its role in Liberia, Sierra Leone and most recently, in Ivory Coast," Nigeria's Defence Adviser to South Africa, Commodore Jacob Ajani told the Voice of Nigeria

"In most international fora you find out that it comes easily that Nigeria takes the frontline by way of providing leadership. We have provided many force commandants for the United Nations' peace keeping missions and the Africa Union as well."

The Nigerian Defence adviser had hosted fellow Defence attaches and Advisers at a reception to commemorate the 2012 Nigeria's Armed Forces and Remembrance Day celebrations in Pretoria, South Africa. The day is celebrated on January 15 every year.[/b] SOURCE:http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/

even after posting that ..no South African cares ...wiki is not freedom park .its amazing how this hurts u ppl ..u want kudos ? Ul find it in Abuja

ddami:
that's little and so cheap,,,this is bigger =
take your HATEFUL self out of this thread nope, out of nairaland its an AFRICAN website ::: you hate AFRICANS, I think you in the wrong place nigga. ..

besides, you only follow yourselves, it all makes sense now,,kindly go to your profile and click DE-ACTIVATE ..

never

lezz:
South Africans spoken to are however divided on the nuisance nature of Nigerians. While some see them as very brash, loudmouthed criminals, others are quick to point out that it was only with the arrival of Nigerians in SA did they know that a black man can look a white man in the face and tell him off. Could this therefore be a source of the conspiracy against Nigerians? Some will also tell you about the wonderful work Nigerian doctors, academics, professionals and business people are doing in SA. Mostly, they tell you about the ingenuity and enterprising nature of Nigerians. Nigerians spoken to are equally divided as to their opinion of how they are being treated in SA. Some tell of the wonderful friendship they have developed with South African families, while others speak of the terrible experiences they have had in the country. However, one common denominator that is present in almost all those spoken to is that, it will not be in the best interest of both countries to have wrong perceptions and diplomatic rows. The recent spate of attacks notwithstanding, Nigerians spoken to expressed empathy with the situation the South African blacks find themselves. They say they are ready to forgive those who were directly or indirectly involved in the attacks. They have also appealed to Nigerians back home not to engage in retaliatory attacks against South Africans living in the mother country as this will not resolve the issue at hand.

so what

vandalZA:
never

I will help you.... you want to have a sense of importance by being on NL..but your hatred will send you to an EARLY GRAVE... you and rudzsa should take your HATEFUL SOUL and SPIRIT OUT OF NL..

lezz:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations

  [b]
South Africa praises Nigerian military for its apartheid-era help

by defenceWeb, February 9, 11:54 pm

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) foreign relations head has praised the Nigerian Armed forces for its strong relationship with the South African military.


Major General Daniel Mofokeng, head of SANDF Foreign Relations, said Nigeria was in the forefront in the struggle against apartheid and that the country made huge sacrifices for the liberation of South Africa from minority rule.

Nigeria supported the then Frontline States organisation, which was established to achieve democratic majority rule in South Africa. Former members included Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe. According to the South African Institute of International Affairs, Namibia contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort between the 1980s and 1994.

Nigeria played a pivotal role in establishing the United Nations Special Committee against Apartheid in the 1960s while ordinary Nigerians contributed financially to the anti-apartheid movement, especially in reaction to the 1976 Soweto uprisings.

Mofokeng said that Nigeria also offered military training and support to assist the African National Congress. According to him, Nigeria's gesture helped shore up relations between Abuja and Pretoria.

"I must say the relations between the two countries most especially before 1994; has been extra ordinary in the sense that Nigeria has been in the forefront in the anti-apartheid struggle. It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".

"The Nigerian Armed Forces' very intimidating credentials, in terms of its military professionalism, is exemplified by its role in Liberia, Sierra Leone and most recently, in Ivory Coast," Nigeria's Defence Adviser to South Africa, Commodore Jacob Ajani told the Voice of Nigeria

"In most international fora you find out that it comes easily that Nigeria takes the frontline by way of providing leadership. We have provided many force commandants for the United Nations' peace keeping missions and the Africa Union as well."

The Nigerian Defence adviser had hosted fellow Defence attaches and Advisers at a reception to commemorate the 2012 Nigeria's Armed Forces and Remembrance Day celebrations in Pretoria, South Africa. The day is celebrated on January 15 every year.[/b] SOURCE:http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/

lol self made links and about wikipedia anyone can make a profile about what he/she' wishes

ddami:
to think I always criticized you that you are being hard and xenophobic on them,,,
but now I think rudesa and vandalizedbrain are LOST, they are in the wrong place... how can I just ban them for like 1 year or forever

go ahead and ban us as if nairaland puts food on our tables everyday.........other south Africans may not confess this but the happiest day fro south Africans will come wen all foreigners left the country...FACT SOUTH AFRICANS ARE GOOD IN PRETENDING....how can you love someone that feed your children drug, how can you love someone that make your daughter a sex slave.......the anger south Africans have towards foreigners will never end......and what is bad is that south Africans don't talk to fix thing, but fight to fix things.

ddami:
ON EVERY PAGE OF THIS THREAD THIS POST WILL ALWAYS APPEAR UNTIL @rudsza and @vandalza LEAVES NL 'cos YOU'RE LOST...you are on a website owned by people u HATE....

just loving it. DUMMY!!!

ddami:
I will help you.... you want to have a sense of importance by being on NL..but your hatred will send you to an EARLY GRAVE... you and rudzsa should take your HATEFUL SOUL and SPIRIT OUT OF NL..

never DUMMY!

vandalZA:
go ahead and ban us as if nairaland puts food on our tables everyday.........other south Africans may not confess this but the happiest day fro south Africans will come wen all foreigners left the country...FACT SOUTH AFRICANS ARE GOOD IN PRETENDING....how can you love someone that feed your children drug, how can you love someone that make your daughter a sex slave.......the anger south Africans have towards foreigners will never end......and what is bad is that south Africans don't talk to fix thing, but fight to fix things.

spare me your sentiments and TELL YOUR GOVT. TO STOP PRETENDING behind diplomatic relations, IF THEY DO ALL THOSE THINGS TELL YOUR GOVT TO STOP GRANTING THEM VISAS,, DEPORT ALL OF THEM, INDONESIA KILLS DRUG LORD,, NOTHING CHANGED,, .BUT ALL YOU DO IS TO HATE AFRICANS its your psychology, ur mentality, from a young age *as ur brother typed*.

I don't tolerate mediocrity, if indeed you find a DRUG LORD KILL THEM it will make the world a better place,,, and save your children and stop assuming all AFRICANS ARE DRUG LORDS THUS YOUR PROFOUND HATRED ...
the anger I am having towards you right now will definitely not end...

vandalZA:
never DUMMY!

you think this is funny, NO...
I don't hate anything, but I am sooo hating you PASSIONATELY right now... you assume all Africans are bad including those who helped you like Angola,Tanzania... its not just a Nigerian hatred.. you hate a WHOLE CONTINENT, the WHOLE BLACK RACE,,,I am one black girl who is hating you so bad you just can't imagine 'cos YOU HATE AFRICANS

vandalZA:
just loving it. DUMMY!!!

*as a young age we've been told there is us and there is makwerere, we hate Africans** -- rudzsa,
no wonder some rating said we are happier than you,, no matter your perfection you are a saddist, groomed to hate..
you are on NL not for social networking but to hate that's why you are limited to the foreign affairs section so you can attack any thread that has s.a or Africa in it...I see why lezz won't leave you alone....

RudzSA:
even after posting that ..no South African cares ...wiki is not freedom park .its amazing how this hurts u ppl ..u want kudos ? Ul find it in Abuja

THE streets of Nigeria doesn't care about you, Nobody gives a damn if you exist or not...you try to feel important here on NL especially foreign affairs section...

The NUMBER OF NIGERIANS you see on this thread should let you know that we don't give a bleep about you.......'cos we wil dominate this thread if we actually did care...

RudzSA:
to be honest ..south Africans dnt lyk African ppl .we see u ppl as dirty , poor ,drug lords ,false prophets etc.this taking jobs thing is an excuse used by our government to hide the truth . Coz As South Africans we've always known from a young age that thers us nd thers makwerekwere (u guys) .we've Neva liked foreigners from Asia nd africa(wit a few exceptions lyk Ghana)we jus ddnt attack them .this current government starts this attacks to deflect attention from their failures nd corruption.

on every page this will always show....

vandalZA:
lol self made links and about wikipedia anyone can make a profile about what he/she' wishes

I have blown you away with one source

Cry all you want. When I say south Africa was a burden Nigeria gallantly bore on her broad shoulders, it wasn't for trolling. It's for real.

RudzSA:
even after posting that ..no South African cares ...wiki is not freedom park .its amazing how this hurts u ppl ..u want kudos ? Ul find it in Abuja

This is hurting you far more than I could ever imagine.

The link is from your own defence headquarters. Thanks for your tears.

vandalZA:
lol self made links and about wikipedia anyone can make a profile about what he/she' wishes

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/

The excerpt is from your own SANDF headquarters. Please don't cry.

ddami:
after that post, those two boys stopped being primitive fun to me... They are both suffering from a chronic case of BRAIN DRAIN..

Lol, my last post from their own defence headquarters has put both of them on the defence mode. Valdaza and rudzsa have been reduced to monosyllabic whispering ; D

South Africa guided weapons company Kentron has unveiled its 300km (180mi) range Torgos cruise missile for the first time at Dubai 2000.

The new missile is a development of the existing family of precision guided weapons from Kentron, a division of the Denel Group.

"Torgos has been designed with low mass, coupled with stealthy characteristics and high manoeuvrability," says Denel spokesman Sam Basch. "For its primary role as a multi-purpose, long-range precision strike weapon, Torgos is designed to neutralise hardened targets of high strategic value.

"Its cruciform tail control makes it particularly manoeuvrable in the terminal phase of attack, which also enables Torgos to hit moving targets of opportunity."

Kentron has been involved in the development of guided weapons and missiles since the early 1970s. Its Raptor television guided glide bomb

was used operationally during the 1980s. A series of variants have since been developed from this weapon for a number of customers.

"Torgos is a natural evolution from Kentron's MUPSOW (Multi-Purpose Stand-Off Weapon) advanced technology demonstrator programme," says Basch. "The latter's primary role is that of a sub-munition dispensing system, for day/night precision strike operations over long range, to neutralise targets such as airfields, air defence systems, strategic installations and command-and-control centres."

The Torgos has two modes of operation: Man-in-the-loop (MITL) through a dedicated communications link allows the pilot to direct the weapon to its target; and automatic target recognition (ATR) which uses the latest generation of thermal imagers to identify targets for attack.

Denel says the weapon, which weighs less than 1,000kg (2,200lb), has a miss distance better than 2m (6ft) and can be carried by Dassault Mirage 2000, Saab JAS-39A Gripen and Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter aircraft.

"We are offering the Torgos to prospective joint venture partners, with both MTL and autonomous ATR capability," says Basch. "The Raptor range, which is still in series production, along with the MUPSOW and Torgos, offers prospective clients a family of stand-off weapon systems to fulfil their requirements.
Torgos is a long-range, precision-guided strike missile, designed to neutralise enemy targets such as hardened aircraft shelters, bunkers and command-and-control centres at extended stand-off ranges. Pinpoint accuracy is achieved by using advanced navigation and autonomous terminal-guidance technology. It will use GPS-INS midcourse guidance, but also has thermal imaging terminal seeker that can operate autonomously, or allow remote control over a data link.

The weapon was derived from the MUPSOW programme. It is not known if Mupsow has entered SAAF service.



https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmissilethreat.com%2Fmissiles%2Fmupsowtorgos%2F&ei=TYifVZ_vKYv8UumxvKAL&usg=AFQjCNFiR2J8Da1SCrZQuI5IVXG3l81ybA

vandalZA:
go ahead and ban us as if nairaland puts food on our tables everyday.........other south Africans may not confess this but the happiest day fro south Africans will come wen all foreigners left the country...FACT SOUTH AFRICANS ARE GOOD IN PRETENDING....how can you love someone that feed your children drug, how can you love someone that make your daughter a sex slave.......the anger south Africans have towards foreigners will never end......and what is bad is that south Africans don't talk to fix thing, but fight to fix things.

Thank you for letting us no your inner anguish. You're a tormented soul, living in hell on earth.

Your life has been reduced to hating others to be happy. Need I know anything further to know you have lost?

In the virtual world like Nairaland, your real-life pains and torment have managed to shine through

NIGERIA CANNOT OFFER ANYTHING

SANDF

lezz:
Thank you for letting us no your inner anguish. You're a tormented soul, living in hell on earth.

Your life has been reduced to hating others to be happy. Need I know anything further to know you have lost?

In the virtual world like Nairaland, your real-life pains and torment have managed to shine through

at least @vandalza reasons for the hatred is less senseless.... you need to see the reasons that mofo called @rudszsa gave... I will explain his post to him and he will see how degenerated his senses have become...

ddami:
at least @vandalza reasons for the hatred is less senseless.... you need to see the reasons that mofo called @rudszsa gave... I will explain his post to him and he will see how degenerated his senses have become...

rudsza? You mean the Zulu who can't write properly.

The guy is even an embarrassment to his country men here on NL. Being avoided like a leprous mouse.

Patchesagain:


we had the Al-Tariq's ancestors

and they were effective

You are still using bush war era SAM's

our Al-Tariq is latest technology

Which will be more effective?

The old guided bombs were battle tested, even though a lot of false propaganda claims were made by SADF, they are still ahead of Al-Tariq bomb that has not seen battle to see how it performs when facing ECM jamming from enemy and against enemy air defence with it's fvcking snail slow gliding speed that makes even a Shilka AA gun able to sh.oot it down !

The Al-Tariq has ZERO combat history to prove anything ! Roland has 100% Success in combat, it brings d.own both the enemy jet, the pilot, and all the b.ombs you drop !

Show me your Al-Tariq's war records.....I dare you
.

Thiza:
SANDF

That's what the SANDF is good for: Hollywood photography.

If pictures win warfare, south Africa won't still be looking for her first ever military victory.

lezz:
That's what the SANDF is good for: Hollywood photography.

If pictures win warfare, south Africa won't still be looking for her first ever military victory.

LOL so many characters on this thread, that ones problem is SILENT but PHYSICAL....

Patchesagain:


GPS–INS for long range guidance, imaging infrared or a semi-active laser seeker for final phase attack... or just GPS-INS for the entire approach if we are hitting static targets

Ok, we blow your bridge, you fix it... we blow it again

Heavily defended? You have 16 Rolands... how many ammo dumps, forward bases, airstrips, bridges, ammo dumps, HQ's etc will you deploy in a full scale war? How much infrastructure is present in any one place?

To defend against a full scale attack from Hawks (25 with 4 Al-Tariq each) you need to deploy 12 Rolands... and that is assuming an impossible 100% hit rate for the Roland

It is impossible for you to defend a full sized formation from us, your Rolands will be clustered around one or two vital points, leaving the rest of your military infastructure exposed for attack

You keep assuming Nigeria has only Roland and no air force ! Fool, ya wanna die in battle ?

1. Forget seeker head, FLIR, infra red or infra white, any laser, targeting pod blah blah blah. Your laser needs a ground based laser designator placed on the target itself, so how did you enter Nigeria to place laser target designator on vital installations and infrastructure? You are attacking Nigeria from inside Nigeria? Are you drunk ?

Okay me too I will be inside your Pretoria presidential palace stabbing Zuma with a knife .

2. How will your Hawk jet travel 10,000 km with only 600 km fuel ? How do you attack Nigerian oil refinery 10,000 km away ? I keep asking .

3. Assume witches and wizards help you fly 9,000 km by witchcraft magical powers, but Nigeria has 500 km radar at the coastline, we detect your incoming Hawk jets from 500 kim away and scramble F-7 jets to intercept, ATR-42 has 407 km range AWACS radar mode and 200 targets tracking, ECCM jamming, ESM and ELINT + SATCOM, we control 100% of the air battle space and in 5 minutes F-7 jets will be eating up your slow speed Hawk jets before they get into range to launch a fvcking 100 km range bomb.

When NAF F-7 jets intercept, all your Soweto air force jets will not go forward, they are either fighting for survival or running back home to mummy and daddy....

#Mission Impossible
.

lezz:
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/

The excerpt is from your own SANDF headquarters. Please don't cry.

lol you should be crazy......the is nothing showing any SANDC approval

vandalZA:
lol you should be crazy......the is nothing showing any SANDC approval

sandc approval? Your illiteracy is all consuming. The statement was released by your SANDF public relation director MAJOR GENERAL DANIEL MOFOKENG.