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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:37am On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


You keep assuming Nigeria has only Roland and no air force ! Fool, ya wanna die in battle ?

1. Forget seeker head, FLIR, infra red or infra white, any laser, targeting pod blah blah blah. Your laser needs a ground based laser designator placed on the target itself, so how did you enter Nigeria to place laser target designator on vital installations and infrastructure? You are attacking Nigeria from inside Nigeria? Are you drunk ?

Okay me too I will be inside your Pretoria presidential palace stabbing Zuma with a knife .

2. How will your Hawk jet travel 10,000 km with only 600 km fuel ? How do you attack Nigerian oil refinery 10,000 km away ? I keep asking .

3. Assume witches and wizards help you fly 9,000 km by witchcraft magical powers, but Nigeria has 500 km radar at the coastline, we detect your incoming Hawk jets from 500 kim away and scramble F-7 jets to intercept, ATR-42 has 407 km range AWACS radar mode and 200 targets tracking, ECCM jamming, ESM and ELINT + SATCOM, we control 100% of the air battle space and in 5 minutes F-7 jets will be eating up your slow speed Hawk jets before they get into range to launch a fvcking 100 km range bomb.

When NAF F-7 jets intercept, all your Soweto air force jets will not go forward, they are either fighting for survival or running back home to mummy and daddy....

#Mission Impossible grin grin
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grin cheesy cheesy deadly response with humorous facts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:55am On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


Assume you fly on a different route, yet does your Hawk jet range of 600 km = 7,400 km ? shocked shocked

Shortest easy direct route without violating other country's air space sovereignty is Cape Town to/fro Port Harcourt is about 9,000 km

http://www.happyzebra.com/distance-calculator/Cape%20Town-to-Port%20Harcourt.php

Nobody flies to war with calculation of last drop of fuel in tank. You provide for bad weather slow down in air and loiter time to acquire target.

So your SAAF Hawk jet 600 km range for combat is far far far far far far far far far below the 10,000 km distance, not even near the 7,000 km you quote....you are just as foolish as @Saengine, he is just an older fool, and a black one....you are white boy with Zulu brain, which hospital did your surgical transplant, I hear there is shortage of white brains for transplant, but plenty Zulu skulls for free grin grin
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Air to Air refueling mate: We are getting new transports in the next 2-3 years, and if war breaks out now, we could just refurbish our boeing 707.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:57am On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


You keep assuming Nigeria has only Roland and no air force ! Fool, ya wanna die in battle ?

1. Forget seeker head, FLIR, infra red or infra white, any laser, targeting pod blah blah blah. Your laser needs a ground based laser designator placed on the target itself, so how did you enter Nigeria to place laser target designator on vital installations and infrastructure? You are attacking Nigeria from inside Nigeria? Are you drunk ?

Okay me too I will be inside your Pretoria presidential palace stabbing Zuma with a knife .

2. How will your Hawk jet travel 10,000 km with only 600 km fuel ? How do you attack Nigerian oil refinery 10,000 km away ? I keep asking .

3. Assume witches and wizards help you fly 9,000 km by witchcraft magical powers, but Nigeria has 500 km radar at the coastline, we detect your incoming Hawk jets from 500 kim away and scramble F-7 jets to intercept, ATR-42 has 407 km range AWACS radar mode and 200 targets tracking, ECCM jamming, ESM and ELINT + SATCOM, we control 100% of the air battle space and in 5 minutes F-7 jets will be eating up your slow speed Hawk jets before they get into range to launch a fvcking 100 km range bomb.

When NAF F-7 jets intercept, all your Soweto air force jets will not go forward, they are either fighting for survival or running back home to mummy and daddy....

#Mission Impossible grin grin
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your opponent is comparing Nigerian military with hunters,
he thinks they will just attack our airway and go back the same way they came.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
That's what the SANDF is good for: Hollywood photography.

If pictures win warfare, south Africa won't still be looking for her first ever military victory.
1.First Boer war
2.Second Boer War: 80 000 vs 550 000+, +-5000 dead vs 25 000+ dead, The Boere only surrendered due to the atrocities that happened in the concentration camps
3.WW1: Single-handedly defeated the Germans in SWA, Also look up the battle of deville wood
4.WW2: Played a massive part in defeating the Germans in North Africa
5.Border War: The SADF did not loose one battle in the entire 23 year Border War.

Ive also not mentioned the major part SAAF played during the Korean War.

As you can see these are real wars, against real enemies, NOT rebel forces!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:18pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations

  [b]
South Africa praises Nigerian military for its apartheid-era help

by defenceWeb, February 9, 11:54 pm

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) foreign relations head has praised the Nigerian Armed forces for its strong relationship with the South African military.


Major General Daniel Mofokeng, head of SANDF Foreign Relations, said Nigeria was in the forefront in the struggle against apartheid and that the country made huge sacrifices for the liberation of South Africa from minority rule.

Nigeria supported the then Frontline States organisation, which was established to achieve democratic majority rule in South Africa. Former members included Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe. According to the South African Institute of International Affairs, Namibia contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort between the 1980s and 1994.

Nigeria played a pivotal role in establishing the United Nations Special Committee against Apartheid in the 1960s while ordinary Nigerians contributed financially to the anti-apartheid movement, especially in reaction to the 1976 Soweto uprisings.

Mofokeng said that Nigeria also offered military training and support to assist the African National Congress. According to him, Nigeria's gesture helped shore up relations between Abuja and Pretoria.

"I must say the relations between the two countries most especially before 1994; has been extra ordinary in the sense that Nigeria has been in the forefront in the anti-apartheid struggle. It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".

"The Nigerian Armed Forces' very intimidating credentials, in terms of its military professionalism, is exemplified by its role in Liberia, Sierra Leone and most recently, in Ivory Coast," Nigeria's Defence Adviser to South Africa, Commodore Jacob Ajani told the Voice of Nigeria

"In most international fora you find out that it comes easily that Nigeria takes the frontline by way of providing leadership. We have provided many force commandants for the United Nations' peace keeping missions and the Africa Union as well."

The Nigerian Defence adviser had hosted fellow Defence attaches and Advisers at a reception to commemorate the 2012 Nigeria's Armed Forces and Remembrance Day celebrations in Pretoria, South Africa. The day is celebrated on January 15 every year.[/b] SOURCE:http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/



International relations will never speak negative of any country even with Somalia or Iran.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:19pm On Jul 10, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:23pm On Jul 10, 2015
jln115:

1.First Boer war
2.Second Boer War: 80 000 vs 550 000+, +-5000 dead vs 25 000+ dead, The Boere only surrendered due to the atrocities that happened in the concentration camps
3.WW1: Single-handedly defeated the Germans in SWA, Also look up the battle of deville wood
4.WW2: Played a massive part in defeating the Germans in North Africa
5.Border War: The SADF did not loose one battle in the entire 23 year Border War.

Ive also not mentioned the major part SAAF played during the Korean War.

As you can see these are real wars, against real enemies, NOT rebel forces!
all your claims are wrapped in controversy. We have dealt with these claims many times in the past. SANDF victory in general are those she had in collaboration with multinational forces of which she wasn't leading the missions.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jul 10, 2015
mzilakazi:




International relations will never speak negative of any country even with Somalia or Iran.
LAMEST EXCUSE EVER...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 12:35pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
rudsza? You mean the Zulu who can't write properly.

The guy is even an embarrassment to his country men here on NL. Being avoided like a leprous mouse.
write properly ?u at University of Lagos which is 1200 places behind the varsity I went to UCT...u can't be beta than me ..it's impossible . U a kwerekwere . South Africans r pretentious ..so they'll Neva tell u the truth ..nd wat I said is the truth ,they all no it..u can't change it.u can hate me for it ..bt u can Neva change it

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:40pm On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


The old guided bombs were battle tested, even though a lot of false propaganda claims were made by SADF, they are still ahead of Al-Tariq bomb that has not seen battle to see how it performs when facing ECM jamming from enemy and against enemy air defence with it's fvcking snail slow gliding speed that makes even a Shilka AA gun able to sh.oot it down !

The Al-Tariq has ZERO combat history to prove anything ! Roland has 100% Success in combat, it brings d.own both the enemy jet, the pilot, and all the b.ombs you drop !

Show me your Al-Tariq's war records.....I dare you grin grin
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1. A design based on a battle tested design
2. ECM jamming does not work against the Umbani
3. Who said its snail slow?
4. Can a shilka target it?
5. Roland has a terrible combat record - 100 Roland launchers in Iraq and they only shot down 3 lowflying aircraf

"combat tested" is the last refuge a man takes when his argument is in tatters
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 12:40pm On Jul 10, 2015
A South African addressing a black American saying our whites ain't African ...

Thuli

This article does not make any sense. Any person who quotes a source like wiki, should not even be writing articles. It
is not a credible source. If your are not a South African, you will not understand how we work in this country. Yes, we
have Afrikaners(they do not call themselves Afrikaan!!) and Africans. Mostly we are called South Africans. What should
we call the rest of the country that does not fall in this categories? Some of my friends are Afrikaner and others are
white but does not speak Afrikaans, but English, what should I call them? So please stick to what you know, or come
and visit our beautiful country and get you facts straight. Please remember what racism has done to this country, we do not need anymore of that from a non-South African.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:43pm On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


You keep assuming Nigeria has only Roland and no air force ! Fool, ya wanna die in battle ?

1. Forget seeker head, FLIR, infra red or infra white, any laser, targeting pod blah blah blah. Your laser needs a ground based laser designator placed on the target itself, so how did you enter Nigeria to place laser target designator on vital installations and infrastructure? You are attacking Nigeria from inside Nigeria? Are you drunk ?

Okay me too I will be inside your Pretoria presidential palace stabbing Zuma with a knife .

2. How will your Hawk jet travel 10,000 km with only 600 km fuel ? How do you attack Nigerian oil refinery 10,000 km away ? I keep asking .

3. Assume witches and wizards help you fly 9,000 km by witchcraft magical powers, but Nigeria has 500 km radar at the coastline, we detect your incoming Hawk jets from 500 kim away and scramble F-7 jets to intercept, ATR-42 has 407 km range AWACS radar mode and 200 targets tracking, ECCM jamming, ESM and ELINT + SATCOM, we control 100% of the air battle space and in 5 minutes F-7 jets will be eating up your slow speed Hawk jets before they get into range to launch a fvcking 100 km range bomb.

When NAF F-7 jets intercept, all your Soweto air force jets will not go forward, they are either fighting for survival or running back home to mummy and daddy....

#Mission Impossible grin grin
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1. What is GPS-INS guidance? How deep have Recces operated behind enemy lines and what is the "Baja 500" award?

2. Hypothetical situation, geography is irrelevant

3. What 500 km radar? Civilian grade designed for detecting airliners? What are gripen?

You think your obsolete F7 based on a 50 year old design scares us when we have Gripen?

Answer these questions and you will realize the idiocy of your post
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:47pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
all your claims are wrapped in controversy. We have dealt with these claims many times in the past. SANDF victory in general are those she had in collaboration with multinational forces of which she wasn't leading the missions.

SA lead the missions in SWA and East Africa in WW1

SA lead the missions in Ethiopa and Madagascar in WW2 (Italians and Vichy French)

SA lead her own squadron in Korea, against a determined and well armed enemy

32 battles in the border war - SADF won them all, SADF lead them all

Nigeria has never fought against a well trained and armed opponent - the fact that you cannot even handle poorly armed boko haram in your own country is absolutely pathetic, and your involvement in Sierra Leon and Liberia was a fvcking shambles with the British and Americans coming in and doing in months what you failed to do in a decade.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:53pm On Jul 10, 2015
RudzSA:
write properly ?u at University of Lagos which is 1200 places behind the varsity I went to UCT...u can't be beta than me ..it's impossible . U a kwerekwere . South Africans r pretentious ..so they'll Neva tell u the truth ..nd wat I said is the truth ,they all no it..u can't change it.u can hate me for it ..bt u can Neva change it
do not let your school read this. You cannot mention your school together with this broken effort of english.

You have succeeded in proving to the world that your university ranking is as fraudulent as your world cup hosting. You can't even deliver a proper literary effort when your integrity, together with that of your country and school are on the line? grin grin grin

Typical of a Zulu; nothing is as despicable and nauseating as a Zulu emboldened by ignorance grin

One last shot: we don't care about your opinion of us. We don't give a rat's ass if you love us or hate us. We're just content that we freed you from the caves and mountains the whiteman sent you and your forebears.

A trained monkey has got more 1Q than a Zulu.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
all your claims are wrapped in controversy. We have dealt with these claims many times in the past. SANDF victory in general are those she had in collaboration with multinational forces of which she wasn't leading the missions.
Multinational Forces:

Firsr boere war?
Second Boere War?
WW1, SWA?
Border War?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:17pm On Jul 10, 2015
Patchesagain:


SA lead the missions in SWA and East Africa in WW1

SA lead the missions in Ethiopa and Madagascar in WW2 (Italians and Vichy French)

SA lead her own squadron in Korea, against a determined and well armed enemy

32 battles in the border war - SADF won them all, SADF lead them all

Nigeria has never fought against a well trained and armed opponent - the fact that you cannot even handle poorly armed boko haram in your own country is absolutely pathetic, and your involvement in Sierra Leon and Liberia was a fvcking shambles with the British and Americans coming in and doing in months what you failed to do in a decade.
The UN abandoned Liberia and Sierra Leon. Nigeria did what no modern military has done in Africa. We take all credit for these countries.

Give me a link for your claims above.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:28pm On Jul 10, 2015
RudzSA:
write properly?u at University of Lagos which is 1200 places behind the varsity I went to UCT...u can't be beta than me..it's impossible.U a kwerekwere.South Africans r pretentious..so they'll Neva tell u the truth..nd wat I said is the truth,they all no it..u can't change it.u can hate me for it..bt u can Neva change it
It is amusing to watch you south africans overhype your universities; a relative of mine went to UNISA for a 2 year course programme a few years ago,and barely 10 months later,when he came to Nigeria on a visit,he was shuddering in disgust at the nearly abysmal level of intellectual standard and human capacity development.At the end of the day,on completing his programme,he was full of regret for ever patronizing the south african education system.He had to terminate further enrollment for an advance degree.
Though SA has beautiful and infrastructurally developed schools,but it certainly doesnt make your schools the best in the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 1:36pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
do not let your school read this. You cannot mention your school together with this broken effort of english.

You have succeeded in proving to the world that your university ranking is as fraudulent as your world cup hosting. You can't even deliver a proper literary effort when your integrity, together with that of your country and school are on the line? grin grin grin

Typical of a Zulu; nothing is as despicable and nauseating as a Zulu emboldened by ignorance grin

One last shot: we don't care about your opinion of us. We don't give a rat's ass if you love us or hate us. We're just content that we freed you from the caves and mountains the whiteman sent you and your forebears.

A trained monkey has got more 1Q than a Zulu.
broken ? Which part ? This shud be interesting .... 4th world education lecture ..m waiting...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 1:38pm On Jul 10, 2015
EVarn:
It is amusing to watch you south africans overhype your universities; a relative of mine went to UNISA for a 2 year course programme a few years ago,and barely 10 months later,when he came to Nigeria on a visit,he was shuddering in disgust at the nearly abysmal level of intellectual standard and human capacity development.At the end of the day,on completing his programme,he was full of regret for ever patronizing the south african education system.He had to terminate further enrollment for an advance degree.
Though SA has beautiful and infrastructurally developed schools,but it certainly doesnt make your schools the best in the world.
we ddnt rate them ..the world did . Nd it rated u guys at position 1222 . U ryt about the beauty thou ...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:44pm On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


British RAF world's best ranked jet pilots could not do that stunt VS a Roland in Falklands war, so is it your unqualified SAAF pilot that will do it?

grin grin
In 1982.

The Argentines lost the war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:46pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
do not let your school read this. You cannot mention your school together with this broken effort of english.

You have succeeded in proving to the world that your university ranking is as fraudulent as your world cup hosting. You can't even deliver a proper literary effort when your integrity, together with that of your country and school are on the line? grin grin grin

Typical of a Zulu; nothing is as despicable and nauseating as a Zulu emboldened by ignorance grin

One last shot: we don't care about your opinion of us. We don't give a rat's ass if you love us or hate us. We're just content that we freed you from the caves and mountains the whiteman sent you and your forebears.

A trained monkey has got more 1Q than a Zulu.
Irony at its best !!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 1:49pm On Jul 10, 2015
Rough seas...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:09pm On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


120 km is all you have. Forget the imaginary speculations of 300 km.

You can try use guided bombs if your target belongs to an enemy with no air force, no air defence, no radars. By the way, how do you see enemy target 120 km away and know it's exact location if we assume it does not move at all, are you a w.izard ?
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The ER version range is up to 200km.

The Raptor III will hit targets 300km away.

Target information can be acquired in various ways. You don't have to see it.

Pictures can be loaded into the weapon as part of target information, the weapon if equipped with a IIR sensor can use ATR(automatic target recognition) to compare what it "sees" with loaded targets info and able to lock onto its target.

And target position is updated through out the bomb's flight.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:13pm On Jul 10, 2015
RudzSA:
we ddnt rate them ..the world did . Nd it rated u guys at position 1222 . U ryt about the beauty thou ...
Recent ratings of universities in Africa puts University of Ibadan; a Nigerian university as number 8 in africa.
While many Nigerian universities may not be as beautiful as their south african counterparts{though there are exceptions like Babcock university,American university of Nigeria,Convenant university,Bells etc..},Nigerian universities are extremely keen on intellectual awareness and development,that is why you would see Nigerian universities always winning international competitions worldwide; building cars,rockets,robots,mini-helicopters,designing mobile applications and advanced softwares.
The world rated south african universities based on infrastructural advancements and research capabilities,but in truth,SA is far behind in terms of human capacity development.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:23pm On Jul 10, 2015
agaugust:


The old guided bombs were battle tested, even though a lot of false propaganda claims were made by SADF, they are still ahead of Al-Tariq bomb that has not seen battle to see how it performs when facing ECM jamming from enemy and against enemy air defence with it's fvcking snail slow gliding speed that makes even a Shilka AA gun able to sh.oot it down !

The Al-Tariq has ZERO combat history to prove anything ! Roland has 100% Success in combat, it brings d.own both the enemy jet, the pilot, and all the b.ombs you drop !

Show me your Al-Tariq's war records.....I dare you grin grin
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Jam what?


What's the elevation of the Shilka cannons?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 2:27pm On Jul 10, 2015
EVarn:
Recent ratings of universities in Africa puts University of Ibadan; a Nigerian university as number 8 in africa.
While many Nigerian universities may not be as beautiful as their south african counterparts{though there are exceptions like Babcock university,American university of Nigeria,Convenant university,Bells etc..},Nigerian universities are extremely keen on intellectual awareness and development,that is why you would see Nigerian universities always winning international competitions worldwide; building cars,rockets,robots,mini-helicopters,designing mobile applications and advanced softwares.
The world rated south african universities based on infrastructural advancements and research capabilities,but in truth,SA is far behind in terms of human capacity development.
the same criteria that placed Harvard n.o1 nd UCT 122 ,is the same that rated unilag 1222 . Pls post a link that proves yo statement ...nd I no u won't find 1 . I no it's hard but put patriotism aside nd argue on the facts .nd on those yo statement remains an opinion

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:28pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
sandc approval? Your illiteracy is all consuming. The statement was released by your SANDF public relation director MAJOR GENERAL DANIEL MOFOKENG.

grin grin grin grin
Director Defence Corporate Communications is Brigadier General Xolani Mabaga.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:30pm On Jul 10, 2015
lezz:
all your claims are wrapped in controversy. We have dealt with these claims many times in the past. SANDF victory in general are those she had in collaboration with multinational forces of which she wasn't leading the missions.
Name them!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 3:04pm On Jul 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Director Defence Corporate Communications is Brigadier General Xolani Mabaga.
Making excuses have turned you into a blind Zulu. Director of foreign relations I said, not defence corporate communications. You just had to look for holes in that post because it demolished all of south Africa.

Your more sensible compatriots avoided it, lower species of the human race like are exhibiting your ignorance and lack of basic comprehension skillsgrin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:05pm On Jul 10, 2015
RudzSA:
the same criteria that placed Harvard n.o1 nd UCT 122 ,is the same that rated unilag 1222 . Pls post a link that proves yo statement ...nd I no u won't find 1 . I no it's hard but put patriotism aside nd argue on the facts .nd on those yo statement remains an opinion
Here is a link below:
http://www.informationng.com/2015/07/university-of-ibadan-emerges-best-university-in-nigeria-and-8th-in-africa-see-full-list.html
I'm never blinded by vain patriotism,i speak what i know to be fact.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 3:07pm On Jul 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Name them!
This must be the dumbest post yet
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 3:11pm On Jul 10, 2015
RudzSA:
broken ? Which part ? This shud be interesting .... 4th world education lecture ..m waiting...
really? Show me one Zulu intellectual Nobel laureate of academic distinction in all of south Africa grin grin grin

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