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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jul 11, 2015
they are everywhere.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Preciousgirl(f): 3:27pm On Jul 11, 2015
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 3:30pm On Jul 11, 2015
andi78:
@op..if the Pastor had paid them would they be telling this story? Cunny man die, cunny man bury am!

Like every scam in 9ja, this is probably a business. There is probably a cottage industry of people who help pastors to fake miracles.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by ModiKen(m): 3:31pm On Jul 11, 2015
OkutaNla:



http://sunnewsonline.com/new/how-our-pastor-used-us-to-fake-miracles-victims/

Serves those idiots right.

Did u fully expect a man who used u to fool people to keep his word.

However....

Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Awesomeking: 3:32pm On Jul 11, 2015
Lol fact is clear
you mock and insult islam
you follow and seek religious guidance and advice from fraudsters and fakers
i think its right to say
CHRISTIANITY-LA-FAKE
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 3:33pm On Jul 11, 2015
ademusiwa9:
You people you have to know that many africa pastor are 419. Am I telling you the truth.


So be careful who you listen to and what you read. The other day. I saw a young man jump from a building because they decieve had m.

Many people get scam by the 419 pastors. They steal ,house,cars stolen.



If Jonathan good luck did not show you inside aso rock. Many will believe that I was telling lies. That western Nigeria is a different country from Nigeria.

Even when they call me names. I stood my ground and they call me liar. Even in many of their churches
Instead of been honest to church members. And call it western Nigeria. They stand with the unbelievers to lie on the alter of God. And call it Nigeria.

They claim their pastor said. I was a liar. Did I lie. No

I will call it western Nigeria . But people who have darkness in then will call it Nigeria.


Major schizo alert
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by ELEYINJUANU(m): 3:38pm On Jul 11, 2015
Miracles are real, i have witness it several times in my ministry, the Lord has performed many through myself, healing the lunatic man, raise the dead, discharged spiritual pregnant, healing the wrought heart many more. Only people hate the truth and never ready to go to where truth is been preach, people love running after fame instead of running after God.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by romoruyi(m): 3:39pm On Jul 11, 2015
The Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) are the new version of the Pharisees of the old who condemned Jesus Christ to Death; They know the law and bible of which they can twist to deceive you. Christ says it openly in Matthew 5:20, ''For i say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven".

I just laugh at what will happen at the end, when the truth about everyone shall be revealed by God.

mrvitalis:
religion is indeed the opium of the masses
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jul 11, 2015
It's true what they say: "Peculiar stories to some might be juicy news for others". Anyone living in a religion-intoxicated region on this planet should not really be amazed at the variety of survivalist deceits and blown-covers of these so-called pastors. The part of this story that is disturbing is how someone claims that "miracles" exist and the proof for it is: "airplane crash victims making it out alive (your guess is as good as mine)".

Many people who actually believe that it is a miracle to survive accidents have not really thought it through. You'll bet that that's the same reason they are gullible in the first place: they never think anything through!
For you to survive an accident is a factor of complex safety, environmental and health processes. A good example is that of a person sitting at the rear seat of a bus, he or she is more likely to make it out alive in case of an accident especially "if" the collision comes from rear. Using your seat-belt always could be an added advantage but guess what? Most commercial buses in this part of the world have all their seat-belts removed! Probably they consider it an unnecessary distraction, something that might "put dirt on their dresses". How Quaint!

I'm afraid the trend of purported miracles will be around for a long time except there is a turnaround of perception, education, and ability to question everything, every time, everywhere.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by no2fuks(m): 3:50pm On Jul 11, 2015
never experienced a true miracle b4 and I know you haven't too but we like to spread lies and deceive each other same with witch mammi water spirit and all that other crap all it did was giv a nigga nightmares when I was younger.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by gidjah(m): 3:51pm On Jul 11, 2015
mrvitalis:
religion is indeed the opium of the masses
correctly put, Religion is the opium of the poor, the gullible .

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 3:59pm On Jul 11, 2015
9jatatafo:
Go and watch the American movie called HEAP OF FAITH then you will know how these SHOW MEN do their miracles. The bible said it already FAKE prophets shall arise and do great wonders and miracles just to deceive the flocks.

Let's be clear, some of the miracles are real yet they r not of Christ. They r performed by familiar spirits.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 4:01pm On Jul 11, 2015
ronald4lif:
Until every self-proclaimed men of God cum miracle performers start visiting hospitals and healing the patients there or they heal someone I personal know was I'll I'd never take them serious. Every televised miracle is stage managed.

Some r real, but performed by demons, not Christ.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by misreal(m): 4:04pm On Jul 11, 2015
nwakaibeya1:
Jeremiah 12:10,Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.DO HUMAN BEIGNS REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH?::::: authority has come back to the earth,BEHOLD we are not begging human beigns to accept our truth and revelation and that is why we have told them,this is power as of old , that go and sin no more power of REAL Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns , so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us?dont forget this that many are pretenders INFACT THEY are pretenders who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his , pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the HIDDEN mystery OF HUMANBEIGNS ?you that think that you are wise?many human beigns like to stand at the gate of heaven ,enter they will never enter ,also allow others to enter they will never allow others to enter so you must think humanbeigns:we are speaking by the power that is unbelievable to human beigns *this is typical of all our truth and revelation and explanations about the night people ,the rich people and evil marine and occult world and those whom human beings believe in them so much that they were called by God or where made rich by God who are in existence today as being powerful and others as the descendants of the prophets and priests referred to here in the bible @#### Jeremiah 5,25, Your wrongdoings have kept God away;your sins have deprived you of good and peace and night sleep.26 “Among my people are the wicked,who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people.27 Like cages full of birds,their houses are full of deceit;they have become rich and powerful,28 and have grown fat and sleek.Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek Gods justice and secular.They do not promote the case of the fatherless;they do not defend the just cause of the poor even when they do its for their own selfish reason unknowingly to the those benefiting from them?.29 Should I not punish them for this?”declares the Lord.“Should I not avenge myself.on such a nation as this?30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land,31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority,and my people love it this way.But what will you do in the end?is it not those we call CHAMELEONS Let this phrase as follows sink in you and we repeat that we keep telling you human beigns about them that are being referred to in those passages by God himself hence judgement has come again or cant you see the judgment is all over the place even though the worst judgement is happening spiritually now but because those being judged are pretenders we repeat who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?this is words of authority and power from real Jesus CHRIST, that we declare and they are spirits,who can battle with the God of justice,he that made the spiritual laws?we are not begging human beigns to accept the truth and thats why we have told them this is power as of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us BUT AS USUAL ONLY TIME WILL TELL WHO IS GENUINE OR NOT?DO NOT SAY YOU WHERE NOT TOLD THAT KINGDOM OF GOD OF JUSTICE HAS COME AND JUDGEMENT HAS COME BACK TO THE EARTH:YOU ARE PERMITTED TO INVESTIGATE BUT HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY BLIND?JEREMIAH 5,21-22
how does this edify??
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 4:09pm On Jul 11, 2015
AnieduEmmanuel:
It's true what they say: "Peculiar stories to some might be juicy news for others". Anyone living in a religion-intoxicated region on this planet should not really be amazed at the variety of survivalist deceits and blown-covers of these so-called pastors. The part of this story that is disturbing is how someone claims that "miracles" exist and the proof for it is: "airplane crash victims making it out alive (your guess is as good as mine)".

Many people who actually believe that it is a miracle to survive accidents have not really thought it through. You'll bet that that's the same reason they are gullible in the first place: they never think anything through!
For you to survive an accident is a factor of complex safety, environmental and health processes. A good example is that of a person sitting at the rear seat of a bus, he or she is more likely to make it out alive in case of an accident especially "if" the collision comes from rear. Using your seat-belt always could be an added advantage but guess what? Most commercial buses in this part of the world have all their seat-belts removed! Probably they consider it an unnecessary distraction, something that might "put dirt on their dresses". How Quaint!

I'm afraid the trend of purported miracles will be around for a long time except there is a turnaround of perception, education, and ability to question everything, every time, everywhere.

Do u believe there are unseen forces around us? If so, then there have to believe in miracles. I believe 0.1% of jazz and miracles may be real (may be less than 0.1%)
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by architez: 4:14pm On Jul 11, 2015
gidjah:
correctly put, Religion is the opium of the poor, the gullible .

Masses = poor, gullible . So religion is the opium of the masses.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by no2fuks(m): 4:29pm On Jul 11, 2015
Lyndylove:
Lmao @ rehearsal grin grin grin

You guys deserve exactly what you got. What about those you deceived into falling prey to the pastor's antics?

If I were you, I'll agree to play along. On the crusade day, I'll arrange three hefty guys to come with me and stand by. Then when the time for the fake miracle display comes, I'll play it perfectly, pick up the microphone during testimony time and tell the crowd exactly what happened and how they approached me to testify falsely. The three hefty guys will protect me. Crusade will end.

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church members no go still believe dem fit lynch you and your guards this ppl want to be deceived
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by no2fuks(m): 4:33pm On Jul 11, 2015
carzola:
So u guys read that long piece of sssshhhhhiiiitttt

vanguard and most newspaper and their style of journalism dem go dey quote everything dem tell them like say dem they gist wit thier frnds smh
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by neocortex: 4:43pm On Jul 11, 2015
Dokitadotun:
This is the type of news they like to publish. I have personally experienced divine healing. Fake surely exists

Pictures or I don't believe you. grin

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jul 11, 2015
architez:


Do u believe there are unseen forces around us? If so, then there have to believe in miracles. I believe 0.1% of jazz and miracles may be real (may be less than 0.1%)

Miracle is simply science that we are yet to understand. Obviously there exists natural forces around us, and our ability to understand it,explore it and even manipulate it is all within the tenets of scientific inquisition. What you're yet to understand can simply appear to you as a miracle. For example, assuming a Cave-man man were to travel through time to 2015, do you imagine how amazed he will be seeing computers for the first time or mobile phones or even the internet? This I think, is a clearer way to understand what people mean when they talk about "miracles" and not an intervention of a supernatural being to alter the natural arrangement of the cosmos in favour of "one" individual or group of individuals but to the detriment of others at the same time. To the question of my believing in such a theory, my answer is definitely NO! I'd rather experience the world in real time. Jazz is another sordid and deceitful invention by African traditional Con-men to further exploit the remains of the continent's populace. If you seek to confirm if Jazz is real, I'll suggest you don't even waste your precious time because i have investigated it and all the cases were those of trickery and delusions: One man lying to another that he's invincible and he goes about committing crimes until he gets shot (this time with a real gun) in the process and he is no more.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by neocortex: 4:44pm On Jul 11, 2015
Pastor Johnson of jebidan(works like magic) ministry, I hail. cheesy
And to the toothless TIN CAN threatening sanctions, Nigeria guarantees freedom of association/religion.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by no2fuks(m): 4:45pm On Jul 11, 2015
gidjah:
correctly put, Religion is the opium of the poor, the gullible .

and the desperate and the people afraid of death
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 4:46pm On Jul 11, 2015
Question to Nigerian pastors: TB Joshua, Adeboye, kumuyi,, oyedepo etc how come none of them attempted to heal Ebola patients during the last Ebola outbreak?

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by fromnigeria(m): 4:49pm On Jul 11, 2015
Hahaahahha, u funny
kalufelix:
my broda 20pin for this kind 10mins job no be just o..me go play the script for something lesser sef

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Ninilowo(m): 4:50pm On Jul 11, 2015
mrvitalis:
religion is indeed the opium of the masses
Walahi. The sense of the senseless, the heart of the heartless, the only tool used by the capitalist to oppress the common man.
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by neocortex: 4:53pm On Jul 11, 2015
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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by azidomedogo: 5:06pm On Jul 11, 2015
Matthew 24:4-6 .Alot of false prophet are in the world,some are young men between the ages of 30-40yrs and above.Jesus said they will preach to you in my name and prophesy in my name but they are not of me.These so called "Men of God" have agents whom they send b4 a church program starts to get information from unsuspecting public so that during the program names and peoples cases will be mentioned in the name of prophecy.I love prophecy so much and i believe God is using people to prophesy but this individuals are abusing it and making money from it.
I had an experience with one and his agent whom at the end of prophecy would ask u to sow a seed.They never give altar call for salvation.So many men called by God have allowed their love for money to corrupt their heavenly calling and so they are faking prophecy.
A word of advice: If pastor Adeboye,chris oyakhilome,Tb joshua,Eubert Angel,Oyedepo and many more should ask me to sow a financial seed,i will gladly do it with joy in my heart knowing these ones were sent by God and for me to be blessed.
I say to the church of God beware!!! dont invite a man to your church to preach all because you saw him prophesying somewhere and of which you dont know is background.For security reasons i will not mention the name of the false preacher i encountered......For the post bellow me NOT EVERY MIRACLES YOU SEE ON TV ARE FAKE OR STAGED MANAGED.God is still healing people and using His called to prophesy....Thank You Jesus
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 5:06pm On Jul 11, 2015
Before nko.....smh. Every "miracle" you see being performed on the TV are faked. Plus all these crusades too. All your popular pastors are not called: I know you know who and who and who and who I meant. Bye
Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jul 11, 2015
There's nothing like miracles.

except for personal miracles.
pastors have zero power.

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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by pus22: 5:28pm On Jul 11, 2015
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Re: How Our Pastor Used Us To Fake Miracles – Victims by Hammefeez: 5:43pm On Jul 11, 2015
they wont hear! They are all fake. If you can surely cure or someone that can cure lunacy, dumbness, deaf take E'm to popular area and take popullar victim to them to cure.

Not unknown mad man, Not arrangee or stage arranged miracle

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