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Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by 5minsmadness: 9:56am On Jul 12, 2015 |
christaddicted:Followed by this. Thread closed. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 9:56am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Gaidenk: The weed you smoked is a very strong one |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by MEILYN(m): 9:57am On Jul 12, 2015 |
I don't know where these Muslims get the nonsense they always talk about from. Here is another verse that says that the gift of prophecy was placed among the descendants of Isaac and Jacob. “And We gave him Isaac and Jacob; and We placed among his descendants the gift of prophecy and the Scriptures; and We gave him his reward in this world, and in that to come he shall be one of the righteous.” (Al Ankabut 29:25). How did mohammed become a prophet when the gift was not given to his father Ismael? You guys have to open your eyes and see that mohammed was a fake prophet. He created his own religion out of jealousy for the Jews. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Crocz(m): 9:58am On Jul 12, 2015 |
sonofananimal1:Bros why u dey vex na?...every book always go through criticism and scrutiny...we all owe it to humanity to establish the authenticity of any Book. So you mean everybody should just sail on in blind faith when clearly the Bible, The Word of God, has been doctored? |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 9:58am On Jul 12, 2015 |
ideatoprince18: What you don't know is that the Quran, as it is today, is at it was hundreds of years ago. All this your compilation story means nothing. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by MEILYN(m): 10:04am On Jul 12, 2015 |
menxer:My friend, don't make me say you lack understanding. Open your eyes and read, open your brain and understand. Isaac and Jacob is a linage, that verse wasn't talking about them alone but their descendants also. What the verse is saying is that Ismael and his descendants cannot be prophets of God. If you look at the Bible, you will notice that all the prophets from Genesis -Revelation were Israelites. God made the Israelites the preachers of His word. An Ismaelite cannot teach an Israelite the ways of the Lord. It is impossible. It should be the other way round. “And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob as an additional gift; and We made all of them righteous persons; We made them also leaders, that they might guide others by Our command. And We inspired them to do good works, the observance of prayer, and the giving of alms; and they served Us.” (Al Anbia 21:69, 70) This is from the so called quran.... |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by ideatoprince18(m): 10:04am On Jul 12, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:...........bro do you know ur Quran is not COMPLETE....... during compilation hundreds of jihadi fighters who had d Quran by heart died...... so they had to collect d ones that are alive n compile it.....what happens to dose ones dt died........I don't think u understand wah am saying |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by ideatoprince18(m): 10:06am On Jul 12, 2015 |
MEILYN:........am just surprised at how dis Muslims mix up ordinary people with prophets!!!....one of them came to me telling me Abraham is a prophet!!!!!very absurd 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 10:11am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Gaidenk: Go back to school and learn comprehension The wife of Abu Lahab is a stern enemy of the prophet. She set road traps serveral times for the holy prophet and made him suffer. Your sense of justifying the words of the wife of Abu lahab to meaning Satan is the lord of muhammad shows how u lack reasoning. She saying that is just as mockery of the prophet. So then Allah revealed to muhammed that he is with him so as to calm his mind from the slander of the Wife of Abu lahab. And mind you Quran 111 is there for u to know the stance of Abu Lahab and his wife. Go to Quran 111 Surah al masad verses 1-5 1. Perish the two hands of Abu Lahab (an uncle of the Prophet), and perish he! 2. His wealth and his children (etc.) will not benefit him! 3. He will be burnt in a Fire of blazing flames! 4. And his wife too, who carries wood (thorns of Sadan which she used to put on the way of the Prophet, or use to slander him). 5. In her neck is a twisted rope of Masad (palm fibre). Go and make your research about the deeds of Abu lahab and his wife to the prophet. They were strong haters of the prophet. So try again. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Iceduhu(m): 10:13am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Very interesting topic....This issue is havoring across most religion, cos even the Holy Quran now is subjected to mutilation by some hypocrites...Seeking knowledge is the utmost challenge to all individuals now so as to avoid been mislead...The Muslims give priority to learning Arabic which was the original Language the Quran was written, so wud advice we all seek for depth knwoledge in all ramification and leave the rest to God... He knows best |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 10:13am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Crocz:ALL I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT, THERE ARE MANY BABES CHRISTIAN GROWING IN FAITH, DON'T JUST CONFUSED THEM, THE MESSAGE YOU SUPPOSE TO GIVE OUT IS LOVE AND THE KINGDOM, NOT CRITICISM. IF YOU CHECK THE HISTROY OF BIBLE, MANY PEOPLE HAS PUT THERE LIFE JUST TO BRING THE BIBLE FOR COMMON INDIVIDUAL LIKE US. YES THE WORLD OF GOD HAVE BEING ALTARTED MANY TIME AND MANY CENTURY. THE BASIC THING IS THAT YOU USE YOUR FAITH TO KNOW WHICH IS IT. IF YOU HAVE A DOUPT ABOUT NIV, WHILE NOT CHANGE TO ANOTHER VERSION. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Rilwayne001: 10:16am On Jul 12, 2015 |
MEILYN: You agreed that the bible has errors, so what gave you the rationale that his lineage was never given blessing? |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by MEILYN(m): 10:20am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:See this guy ooo. I quoted from your quran. The Bible and the quran agree to that fact. He was given blessings but na ordinary blessings them give am. If I quote from the Bible you won't believe me, so I took time to quote from your quran. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by menxer: 10:23am On Jul 12, 2015 |
MEILYN: ...Come let us reason together... lets assume the gift of prophesy follows strict genealogy, Are you saying the children of Ishmael and Isaac did not intermarry ever? If a woman that descended from the lineage of prophets gets married to a descendant of Ishmael, and bore him a child, would that child be denied the prophetic trait? if Abraham was a prophet, how come the prophetic trait was denied/removed from genes of the descendants of Ishmael? 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Rilwayne001: 10:26am On Jul 12, 2015 |
ideatoprince18: Hmmmmm....This is ridiculous. Better still, tell me you know nothing about the faith you profess instead of showing the level of you chowderhead. For ur info I don't know wat Mohammad made u believe buh there is a clear distinction between a prophet n a king!!!! David was never a prophet. What makes one a PROPHET according to the bible? ...I can list some of d prophets of old who backed dis claim wit miracles from God.....Adam is not a prophet also....Moses was a prophet...Elijah n Elisha was a prophet.... so bro go thru d bible n understand simple English instead of depending on messenger Mohammad!!!!! I can you you have boycotted every question I asked in my last post, but please don't let this pass, was ABRAHAM a prophet or not? What miracles did he performe? |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 10:27am On Jul 12, 2015 |
ideatoprince18: Lmaoo. I don't debate with people like you. You know so little. Please go deep in your research next time. One love. 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Zeddicus001(m): 10:27am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Bible with version.... Lmao.. What about KJV did u knw that king James was gay |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 12, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Thanks Boss...God bless you too |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by MEILYN(m): 10:33am On Jul 12, 2015 |
menxer:I have answers to all your questions. The father is the seed. Although intermarriage was a crime in the old testament. The Bible says the father makes the lineage, a woman cannot determine the lineage of a child. Numbers 1vs 11 And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls. You can read that verse to verse 19 to understand better. Oga if an Israelite woman marries an Ismaelite man, then the child cannot be a prophet because the child is an Ismaelite. Is that too hard to understand? |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 10:37am On Jul 12, 2015 |
@Ishilove.... I had advice you and every Christain to get Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible for KJV and use it.Again you can use Interlinear and lexicons. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Brytawon(m): 10:40am On Jul 12, 2015 |
For the kingdom of hell shall not prevail over us... |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 10:40am On Jul 12, 2015 |
ideatoprince18: You saying that Muhammad performed no miracle shows how low you level of research is Christians often ask what miracles the prophet Muhammad performed; many of u even make the claim that the Quran and the hadiths record no miracles done by the prophet. However so, it seems that I am reading a different Quran and hadith then, because you would have to be blind, or a big liar to claim that there are no recorded miracles of the prophet found in Islamic sources. The Traditions mentioned below are all from Sahih al-Bukhari, the most authentic collection of ahadith 1- Splitting of the Moon "The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder" [Qur'an 54:1] Volume 6, Book 60, Number 388: Narrated Abdullah: The moon was cleft asunder while we were in the company of the Prophet, and it became two parts. The Prophet said, Witness, witness (this miracle)." 2- Food Multiplication Sahih Bukahri: Volume 4, Book 56, Number 780: Narrated Jabir: My father had died in debt. So I came to the Prophet and said, "My father (died) leaving unpaid debts, and I have nothing except the yield of his date palms; and their yield for many years will not cover his debts. So please come with me, so that the creditors may not misbehave with me." The Prophet went round one of the heaps of dates and invoked (Allah), and then did the same with another heap and sat on it and said, "Measure (for them)." He paid them their rights and what remained was as much as had been paid to them. 3- Water Multiplication Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779: Narrated 'Abdullah: We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah's Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah's Apostle , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him). Volume 4, Book 56, Number 777: Narrated Al-Bara: We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred persons on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), and (at) Al- Hudaibiya (there) was a well. We drew out its water not leaving even a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and asked for some water with which he rinsed his mouth and then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short while and then drew water from the well and quenched our thirst, and even our riding animals drank water to their satisfaction. 4- Supplication for Rain Volume 8, Book 73, Number 115: Narrated Anas: A man came to the Prophet on a Friday while he (the Prophet) was delivering a sermon at Medina, and said, "There is lack of rain, so please invoke your Lord to bless us with the rain." The Prophet looked at the sky when no cloud could be detected. Then he invoked Allah for rain. Clouds started gathering together and it rained till the Medina valleys started flowing with water. It continued raining till the next Friday. Then that man (or some other man) stood up while the Prophet was delivering the Friday sermon, and said, "We are drowned; Please invoke your Lord to withhold it (rain) from us" The Prophet smiled and said twice or thrice, "O Allah! Please let it rain round about us and not upon us." The clouds started dispersing over Medina to the right and to the left, and it rained round about Medina and not upon Medina. Allah showed them (the people) the miracle of His Prophet and His response to his invocation. 5- Lights to guide Companions Volume 1, Book 8, Number 454: Narrated Anas bin Malik: Two of the companions of the Prophet departed from him on a dark night and were led by two lights like lamps (going in front of them from Allah as a miracle) lighting the way in front of them, and when they parted, each of them was accompanied by one of these lights till he reached their (respective) houses. 6- Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree Volume 4, Book 56, Number 783: Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet used to deliver his sermons while standing beside a trunk of a datepalm. When he had the pulpit made, he used it instead. The trunk started crying and the Prophet went to it, rubbing his hand over it (to stop its crying). 8- The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem (Arabic: Israa) and Ascent to the Heavens (Arabic: Miraj) Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Regarding the Statement of Allah" "And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which We made you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for the people." (17.60) Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah's Apostle was shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ul Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself) . Volume 4, Book 54, Number 462: Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, "On the night of my Ascent to the Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly- haired man as if he was one of the men of Shan'awa tribe, and I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate- keeper of the (Hell) Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed me." (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): "So be not you in doubt of meeting him' when you met Moses during the night of Mi'raj over the heavens" (32.23) Narrated Anas and Abu Bakra: "The Prophet said, "The angels will guard Medina from Ad-Dajjal (who will not be able to enter the city of Medina)." A fellow human needs enlightenment. Try again. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by shomutuski(m): 10:40am On Jul 12, 2015 |
BIBLE: big book of irrelevant lies and exaggeration. Itz something like an Os. You just keep updating, and that's where error comes from. Don't blame Me Blame the person that made this statement. Bart .D. Erman. For the record! There are a lot of things scraped out of the bible since time immemorial to hide the truth, I don't know why! Buh it seems some people want overpopulation in Hell.. Search for truth and it will guide you. 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 10:42am On Jul 12, 2015 |
doofanc: Nice one Bro. It's always a pleasure 'meeting' someone who reads, who understands, and still believes. Most Christians are afraid to read anything other than what their Pastors/Reverend fathers dish out to them, because they're afraid their faith will be shaken. But I welcome anything that has the potential to shake my faith; how else would I claim to be sure of what I believe in? I understand, that I may believe, rather than follow blind faith in believing without understanding. The application is 'Multi version Bible', an android app. I greet you! |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by KLand(m): 10:42am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Lordave: I beg to differ• It is still the most widely read book. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by BizBayo: 10:42am On Jul 12, 2015 |
haftob: why would it make a person to turn muslim after reading the aramaic? |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by shomutuski(m): 10:49am On Jul 12, 2015 |
ideatoprince18: If you really want to understand search for the truth, and truth you shall get... First clear your mind of being biased. The quran will remain the way it is, regardless of western oppression. The bible has changed from 4 different version: jv, kjv, niv etc. No offense. I challenge you to search for the truth. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by ideatoprince18(m): 10:50am On Jul 12, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:.....I made a mistake answering you in d first place....I noticed u are logically declined |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Rilwayne001: 10:52am On Jul 12, 2015 |
MEILYN: "And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations : (The Noble Quran, 6:86) " "And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:20-21) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by shomutuski(m): 10:54am On Jul 12, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by voltront: 10:54am On Jul 12, 2015 |
sportsmaster:hmmmm. The word "consistent" should worry every christian, does this mean that there different variation out there? If yes, which is the correct one. If no,why the variations in the first place?.......Food for thought. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by shomutuski(m): 10:59am On Jul 12, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Did you see what dat fvcker did He changed everything, from lahab wife to prop(pbuh). There's no way for all this unbelievers except by Allah's mercy. Suratul baqarah- Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and on their eyes is a covering. and for them is a terrible punishment. 2 Likes |
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