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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 2:06pm On Jul 13, 2015
When You hear Darmian and Morgan are game changers

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 2:07pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


This should tell you he was talking about the number 10. Moyes played Rooney behind Van Persie. Rooney granted this interview when he was our number 10 and he was happy.

Under SAF he played in wing, CM in 2012/13

Twisting have started.

You said he only complained about being played in DM in the game against Madrid and i brought out where he complained about being mostly used in the midfield by SAF.

You are also saying he doesn't understand the difference between number ten and being a number 9, Lol.

You also said he was not going to be sold by SAF if he had stayed on but his quotes showed that he had made up his mind to go.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:08pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:



van gaal can be pardoned - english isn't his mother-tongue. however, to suggest rooney wouldn't know the meaning of upfront as an englishman is outrightly ridiculous.

rooney was jealous of the hype van persie was getting as the lead striker. he was in the hole in 12/13(contrary to his position in 11/12) when he was upfront and scored plenty of goals for us.

this was why he used the word selfish. he wants to play in a position where his name would constantly grace the headlines. don't mind elampiro trying to teach an englishman how to use english!

@ embolden, exactly what Elamps is failing to understand. What Rooney meant by 'upfront' was the position of Persie which he held prior to the capture of Persie who took the position from him. All these Elampiro's circumlocutory twists is null and void. Gaal must be pardoned, he struggles with English, while Rooney is English bred.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:08pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:




in a 4-2-3-1 formation, how can you have 2 positions upfront? are you suggesting united played 4-4-2 in 12/13 season? grin

4231 is also 4411 and both from 442.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:11pm On Jul 13, 2015
tess1:


Twisting have started.

You said he only complained about being played in DM in the game against Madrid and i brought out where he complained about being mostly used in the midfield by SAF.

You are also saying he doesn't understand the difference between number ten and being a number 9, Lol.

You also said he was not going to be sold by SAF if he had stayed on but his quotes showed that he had made up his mind to go.

How is CM and Wing DM?

He understands the difference between 9 and 10. Both positions are upfront for some players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:12pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:

4231 is also 4411 and both from 442.

so 4-2-3-1 is also 4-4-2? grin

in how many games did rooney play as a CM in 12/13? you cannot answer that.....rooney wanted the number 9 position & SAF simply said rooney's performance is poor for a number-9 and he moved him further back to operate from the hole.

sinizia:

@ embolden, exactly what Elamps is failing to understand. What Rooney meant by 'upfront' was the position of Persie which he held prior to the capture of Persie who took the position from him. All these Elampiro's circumlocutory twists is null and void. Gaal must be pardoned, he struggles with English, while Rooney is English bred.

elampiro understands but he will never agree. there is a long history concerning where rooney played in 11/12 & 12/13. if elampiro agrees with you now, all the lies he's told in the past would come crashing down like the walls of jericho.

rooney was clear with his stance. he wanted the number-9 position or at best, he wanted a 4-4-2 formation where him & van persie would be a 2-pronged attack. SAF was having none of that cos he considered rooney too poor to operate as a striker.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:13pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Go back and read this thread when Gaal was appointed as United coach, comments upon comments on how Rooney would be sold with immediate effect and automatic alacrity.

For the he made Rooney captain was enough to stop people from assuming things.

Remember you asked me if I (EMPHASIS ON 'I') thought Gaal would sell Rooney, and i answered for myself not for others. I can't take the bullet for others, i'm not Jesus Christ.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jul 13, 2015
StarBoard:

Bro keep calm.

the way we were complaining a few days ago, one would have thought we were not going to sign anybody. The European window is only 13 days old and we've made 3 great signings. Hopefully Woodward doesn't get complacent.

I wasnt complaining but I understood the reason behind people's complaints.

Van Gaal specifically said we would be doing our businesses early this season so it is not uncommon for people to get worried about not signing anyone after Depay, particularly as the tour was to begin this week.

I expect that we've done most of our summer buying, maybe only a defender left - depending on if Van Gaal wants to use Carrick as a makeshift defender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:15pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


in which games did rooney play as a CM in 12/13? why are you twisting the facts? do you know the meaning of upfront or are you just trolling as usual?



van gaal can be pardoned - english isn't his mother-tongue. however, to suggest rooney wouldn't know the meaning of upfront as an englishman is outrightly ridiculous.

rooney was jealous of the hype van persie was getting as the lead striker. he was in the hole in 12/13(contrary to his position in 11/12) when he was upfront and scored plenty of goals for us.

this was why he used the word selfish. he wants to play in a position where his name would constantly grace the headlines. don't mind elampiro trying to teach an englishman how to use english!

Rooney was in the CM against Villa, Stoke, West Ham. He also played in the wing.

On the other part, the reporter 's own assumption.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 2:15pm On Jul 13, 2015
Valdez is not in the squad on tour

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:18pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


Remember you asked me if I (EMPHASIS ON 'I') thought Gaal would sell Rooney, and i answered for myself not for others. I can't take the bullet for others, i'm not Jesus Christ.

If you were he you would joined them judging by your hatred for Rooney.

If others were not here then, they would deny now they believed Gaal would flush him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:19pm On Jul 13, 2015
Thrown in Otamendi and Lacazette in that mix and trophies are guaranteed. cool grin


Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:19pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Rooney was in the CM against Villa, Stoke, West Ham. He also played in the wing.

On the other part, the reporter 's own assumption.

so rooney played only 2 games as a CM & he's complaining that his position upfront wasn't "consistent"? 25 out of 27 games upfront isn't consistent?

i am not sure you understand english!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 2:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


How is CM and Wing DM?

He understand the difference between 9 and 10. Both positions are upfront for some players.


Rooney was complaining of being dropped into the midfield for RVP who was just bought to top strike. He believed that RVP has just taken his position. He simply wanted his striking position back as the top striker just like he had it in the previous season.

If you say it was because he was used in the DM and the wing. How many times was he used in those positions to have warranted him asking to leave?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:23pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:

elampiro understands but he will never agree. there is a long history concerning where rooney played in 11/12 & 12/13. if elampiro agrees with you now, all the lies he's told in the past would come crashing down like the walls of jericho

rooney was clear with his stance. he wanted the number-9 position or at best, he wanted a 4-4-2 formation where him & van persie would be a 2-pronged attack. SAF was having none of that cos he considered rooney too poor to operate as a striker.

I'm getting the bigger picture. No wonder. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jul 13, 2015
darefestus:

I wasnt complaining but I understood the reason behind people's complaints.
Van Gaal specifically said we would be doing our businesses early this season so it is not uncommon for people to get worried about not signing anyone after Depay, particularly as the tour was to begin this week.
I expect that we've done most of our summer buying, maybe only a defender left - depending on if Van Gaal wants to use Carrick as a makeshift defender.

I get you sir.
I'm just saying we need to be calm, especially since most of our recruits last summer didn't come out like we expected.
On paper we've solved the midfield problem. Now we just need a CB and at least a hitman.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:28pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


If you were he you would joined them judging by your hatred for Rooney.

If others were not here then, they would deny now they believed Gaal would flush him.

I don't hate Rooney, my grouse with him is the way some gullible fans makes him look like a soccer god, which he's not.

That said, you can't be so sure that i'd join them, but the truth is i never thought for one day Gaal would sell Rooney especially after Rooney had signed a huge deal the previous season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:29pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


@ embolden, exactly what Elamps is failing to understand. What Rooney meant by 'upfront' was the position of Persie which he held prior to the capture of Persie who took the position from him. All these Elampiro's circumlocutory twists is null and void. Gaal must be pardoned, he struggles with English, while Rooney is English bred.

This is not true.

If Rooney were angry about not being played in Van Persie position, why was he happy playing behind Van Persie when Moyes took over? Refer to that interview submitted by tess1

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:31pm On Jul 13, 2015
LVG has shut nihilist up again.....

about 2 weeks ago, nucca was spewing baloney on how none of our targets would be poached and we should follow their lead by signing premier league runts like begovic & loic remy. cheesy grin

the nucca has suddenly gone quiet now. i am sure he is still pinching himself that a whole german captain would wear our shirt next season. on top of that, we have morgan schnerderlin as the icing on the cake.

when will these chelsea rats get it that we ain't in the same category - the only thing that bounds us together is the map of england that has forced us to play in the same football league.

una never hear weeeeeen!

elampiro:

This is not true.
If Rooney were angry about not being played in Van Persie position, why was he happy playing behind Van Persie when Moyes took over? Refer to that interview submitted by tess1


because van persie got injured under moyes a lot. this allowed rooney to play in his preferred position upfront more often than in 12/13 season when RVP appeared in all the 38 league games!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:33pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


I'm getting the bigger picture. No wonder. grin grin

Don't mind Coogar. He is hungry for a long argument. That's why I am avoiding that 2011/12 talk.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:35pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


This is not true.

If Rooney were angry about not being played in Van Persie position, why was he happy playing behind Van Persie when Moyes took over? Refer to that interview submitted by tess1




cos Moyes wouldn't bench him like SAF did, and Moyes reassured him with some huge pounds sterling in his new deal to keep him happy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:41pm On Jul 13, 2015
tess1:



Rooney was complaining of being dropped into the midfield for RVP who was just bought to top strike. He believed that RVP has just taken his position. He simply wanted his striking position back as the top striker just like he had it in the previous season.

If you say it was because he was used in the DM and the wing. How many times was he used in those positions to have warranted him asking to leave?

Did you read that interview you submitted at all? Rooney was happy playing in where he likes to play, behind the main striker.

Where did I say Rooney was used as a DM?

I want to emphasize , what Rooney was flighting for is the number 10. Ferguson said this after Madrid game that Kagawa 's best position is behind the striker and that was unfortunate because that was Rooney' s preferred position. saf said he might resort to rotating them. Which meant Rooney might get to play in the wing or central midfield sometimes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 2:46pm On Jul 13, 2015
if elampiro and coogar start posting Rooney charts again ,who will join me in stoning them?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:47pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Did you read that interview you submitted at all? Rooney was happy playing in where he likes to play, behind the main striker.

Where did I say Rooney was used as a DM?

I want to emphasize , what Rooney was flighting for is the number 10. Ferguson said this after Madrid game that Kagawa 's best position is behind the striker and that was unfortunate because that was Rooney' s preferred position. saf said he might resort to rotating them. Which meant Rooney might get to play in the wing or central midfield sometimes.

upfront is not number-10, oga!
rooney wanted the number-9 position. he wanted to score more goals thus using the phrase "i had to be selfish". how can he be selfish in the hole when players in the hole are basically used as providers?

stop trolling, abeg....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:50pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


cos Moyes wouldn't bench him like SAF did, and Moyes reassured him with some huge pounds sterling in his new deal to keep him happy.

You are buttressing my point. If Rooney were so powerful under Moyes, why did he choose to play in number 10 instead of 9.

Why did he not use his influence to take the number 9. He went for his preferred position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:51pm On Jul 13, 2015

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:51pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:
LVG has shut nihilist up again.....

about 2 weeks ago, nucca was spewing baloney on how none of our targets would be poached and we should follow their lead by signing premier league runts like begovic & loic remy. cheesy grin

the nucca has suddenly gone quiet now. i am sure he is still pinching himself that a whole german captain would wear our shirt next season. on top of that, we have morgan schnerderlin as the icing on the cake.

when will these chelsea rats get it that we ain't in the same category - the only thing that bounds us together is the map of england that has forced us to play in the same football league.

una never hear weeeeeen!
Bastian aside, LVG has done exactly what I said...by focusing less on marquee signings and more on less famous talent.

As for comparisons, you were slagging Clyne off as a runt...then went and signed Darmian who nobody really knows.
Schneiderlin is a good player no doubt...but he's not World Class either
And if the rumours about Oblak are true, Manyoo are actually chasing Athletico's second choice keeper.

And the Bastian transfer, the less said about that, the better.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jul 13, 2015
StarBoard:

Thanks to haters and trolls.
I can understand Chelsea fans. But coming from fans of a club that can't win the Champions league is what baffles me.
See ehn, i don tire. They incessantly continue to show their stupidity and hate for United.

____________________________________

U say ur Prof knows best and he cant even win the league after occupying 1st place in the league for close to 8 months in a 10 month season(on two occasions). For like 5 seasons now, Prof hasn't progressed past the Knockout stages of the UCL and yet Moyes did it in his first season with mediocre players......so plis tell me exactly wat ur Prof knows best...failing??

Some people should be stripped of their rights to use the internet. The World Wide Web doesn't deserve u constantly showcasing ur ignorance all in d name of trolling!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:54pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


upfront is not number-10, oga!
rooney wanted the number-9 position. he wanted to score more goals thus using the phrase "i had to be selfish". how can he be selfish in the hole when players in the hole are basically used as providers?

stop trolling, abeg....


Selfish towards Kagawa.

He didnt want to share with Kagawa. If Rooney can afford to play behind Welbeck and Chicharito, why wont he play behind RVP. Even under Moyes, Rooney played behind the young lads.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:55pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


You are buttressing my point. If Rooney were so powerful under Moyes, why did he choose to play in number 10 instead of 9.

Why did he not use his influence to take the number 9. He went for his preferred position.

cos of what Moyes discussed with him. Because of the new deal Moyes got him. Because of the influence Moyes bestowed on him which was taken away under SAF. under SAF, Rooney became Old Trafford's forgotten son, while VP became the favourite son, Rooney grew jealous and knew the only way to get his birthright back was Persie's position returned to him so he can start grabbing the headlines again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


4231 is also 4411 and both from 442.
4-2-3-1 is same as 4-4-2?? Bros u've started again abi??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:59pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Selfish towards Kagawa.

He didnt want to share with Kagawa. If Rooney can afford to play behind Welbeck and Chicharito, why wont he play behind RVP. Even under Moyes, Rooney played behind the young lads.

So it's Kagawa that's stealing Rooney's shine?

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