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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 2:45pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
how many players did Arsene wenger promote from academy? Did ferguson or pep not sign players to win treble? The answer is yes. how about LVG's Ajax?(finidi George n kanu). Mou signed most of those players as an unknown from lowly clubs in Portugal with peanut while some of them were from the club's academy. Ferguson signed Andy cole and co too to win treble same with pep and LVG why trying very hard to discredit mou's success huh. One even said mou ruined inter and Porto..lol the beef is real.
lol.. name about 6 starters Pep or Ferguson sign to win treble
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 2:51pm On Jul 20, 2015
MrLouisVanGaal:



God bless you sir... wheres that liar called hen whatever..... come and defend your merc merchant of a coach.. They just believe anything they read from complete sports then come here to tell us mourinho promoted everyone in the Porto team of 2004.
you are the liar here. Where did I say he promote them in my post huh, I said he transformed them to world beaters and turned most of them into establish players/ sought after players. Ferguson signed Andy cole and co to win treble after trying for many years, lvg signed kanu, finidi George and co to win treble as well same with pep. They even included wenger forgetting most of his invisible squad were signed. Lol. The beef is real.
here are the seven starters ferguson signed that won the treble: schmeichel, york, cole, irwin, stam, johnson and blomqvist.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:09pm On Jul 20, 2015
Odunharry:

lol.. name about 6 starters Pep or Ferguson sign to win treble
here are the seven starters ferguson signed that won the treble: schmeichel, york, cole, irwin, stam, johnson and blomqvist.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:10pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
how many players did Arsene wenger promote from academy? Did ferguson or pep not sign players to win treble? The answer is yes. how about LVG's Ajax?(finidi George n kanu). Mou signed most of those players as an unknown from lowly clubs in Portugal with peanut while some of them were from the club's academy. Ferguson signed Andy cole and co too to win treble same with pep and LVG why trying very hard to discredit mou's success huh. One even said mou ruined inter and Porto..lol the beef is real.

Wenger promoted Ashley COle from the academy

Guadiola promoted Busquets from the academy

Ferguson promoted Scholes from the academy

LvG promoted Seedorf from the academy

Mention ONE player Mourinho promoted from the academy and he is a top player in football today
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:15pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
here are the seven starters ferguson signed that won the treble: schmeichel, york, cole, irwin, stam, johnson and blomqvist.


give us that for Pep
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:18pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Wenger promoted Ashley COle from the academy

Guadiola promoted Busquets from the academy

Ferguson promoted Scholes from the academy

LvG promoted Seedorf from the academy

Mention ONE player Mourinho promoted from the academy and he is a top player in football today
wenger did not win treble that aside.
Mourhino promoted Ricardo Carvalho from the academy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:22pm On Jul 20, 2015
Odunharry:

give us that for Pep
you shouldn't even bother, its a waste of time and energy. pep didn't do jack in that barca squad. xavi, iniesta and messi were already playing for barca before pep.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
wenger did not win treble that aside.
Mourhino promoted Ricardo Carvalho from the academy.

Chelsea fans, you can never dissapoint.

FYI Ricardo Carvalho started playing for Porto first team in 1997 when Mourinho was still a translator to Louis Van Gaal. Mourinho got to Porto in 2002 after Carvalho has spent 5yrs in Porto first team

You asked who Wenger promoted not if he won a treble

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:32pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
you shouldn't even bother, its a waste of time and energy. pep didn't do jack in that barca squad. xavi, iniesta and messi were already playing for barca before pep.

Valdez Oleguer Marquez, Puyol, Van Brockhorst, Edmilson, Van Bommel Deco Guily Etoo Ronaldinho

Valdez Pique, Puyol Xavi Iniesta, Etoo, Messi, Henry Sylvinho, Toure Busquets

The first was the lineup that started for Barca in the 2006 final

the second was the lineup that started for Barca in the 1009 CL final

How many players remained ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:34pm On Jul 20, 2015
I know una problem and sentiments. Since portuguese league is not among one of the top 4 best league in terms of popularity and finance hence the ignorance. smh. Mou even deserve more praises in this context if you guys are to be objective but unfortunately, hatred and sentiments beclouded you all sense of reasoning.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:38pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Chelsea fans, you can never dissapoint.

FYI Ricardo Carvalho started playing for Porto first team in 1997 when Mourinho was still a translator to Louis Van Gaal. Mourinho got to Porto in 2002 after Carvalho has spent 5yrs in Porto first team

You asked who Wenger promoted not if he won a treble
I was waiting for you to say chelsea fans bla bla.
read here then come back and tell me what you saw:
Ricardo Alberto Silveira de Carvalho, OIH, (Portuguese pronunciation: [ʁiˈkaɾðu kɐɾˈvaʎu]; born 18 May 1978) is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays as a centre back for AS Monaco FC and the Portuguese national team.

Carvalho was born in Amarante where he played for the local team, Amarante Futebol Clube. By his great performance as a youngster, he was spotted by Porto, and in 1996 he was brought to FC Porto Junior team. Between 1997 and 2001 he had loan spells at Leça, where he made his professional debut, Vitória de Setúbal and Alverca, but it was in José Mourinho’s reign that he really started to make big strides forward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Carvalho.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:40pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
you shouldn't even bother, its a waste of time and energy. pep didn't do jack in that barca squad. xavi, iniesta and messi were already playing for barca before pep.
lol.. pep that re-invented the tiki taka or the pep who disgrace Mourinho or the pep who dominated European football and Spain in three season or which pep are you talking
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:43pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Valdez Oleguer Marquez, Puyol, Van Brockhorst, Edmilson, Van Bommel Deco Guily Etoo Ronaldinho

Valdez Pique, Puyol Xavi Iniesta, Etoo, Messi, Henry Sylvinho, Toure Busquets

The first was the lineup that started for Barca in the 2006 final

the second was the lineup that started for Barca in the 1009 CL final

How many players remained ?
Now those 2009 squad you mentioned, tell me the one pep promoted to senior team.?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
I was waiting for you to say chelsea fans bla bla.
read here then come back and tell me what you saw:
Ricardo Alberto Silveira de Carvalho, OIH, (Portuguese pronunciation: [ʁiˈkaɾðu kɐɾˈvaʎu]; born 18 May 1978) is a Portuguese professional footballer who plays as a centre back for AS Monaco FC and the Portuguese national team.

Carvalho was born in Amarante where he played for the local team, Amarante Futebol Clube. By his great performance as a youngster, he was spotted by Porto, and in 1996 he was brought to FC Porto Junior team. Between 1997 and 2001 he had loan spells at Leça, where he made his professional debut, Vitória de Setúbal and Alverca, but it was in José Mourinho’s reign that he really started to make big strides forward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Carvalho.

The question was mention ONE player that Mourinho discovered from the youth team and made a star

you posted

hensben:
wenger did not win treble that aside.
Mourhino promoted Ricardo Carvalho from the academy.

SO I am now asking you How true is your statement that Mourinho promoted Carvalho from the ACADEMY

Waiting for an answer
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:49pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
Now those 2009 squad you mentioned, tell me the one pep promoted to senior team.?

Sergio Busquets
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:50pm On Jul 20, 2015
Odunharry:

lol.. pep that re-invented the tiki taka or the pep who disgrace Mourinho or the pep who dominated European football and Spain in three season or which pep are you talking
you see..you don shift post again. we dey talk about promoting players you don run go trophies.with barca its possible, enrique failed in italy(outside spain) but now if them dey count coach wey win treble him go come out as well. mou dominated european football with porto and inter milan. Btw, who name tiki taka as the only way to play football huh, how many world cup spain get compare to brazil and italy who nor dey play tiki taka or how many ucl barca get compare to liverpool, ac milan n real madrid wey nor dey play tiki taka.
fyi, tiki taka is boring to many people around the world.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:55pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


The question was mention ONE player that Mourinho discovered from the youth team and made a star

you posted



SO I am now asking you How true is your statement that Mourinho promoted Carvalho from the ACADEMY

Waiting for an answer
Mou gave him chance to play for porto senior team, he promoted him abi you nor read the link i post for you.
okay compare mou treble squad with porto to that of pep for barca in terms of player's popularity and worth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:01pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
Mou gave him chance to play for porto senior team, he promoted him abi you nor read the link i post for you.
okay compare mou treble team with porto to that of pep for barca in terms of popularity and finance.

Carvalho was already playing senior team football at various clubs like Setubal Alverca etc before Mourinho joined Porto So saying Mourinho promoted Carvalho from the academy is FALSE.

So now tell us a player Mourinho took from the academy and made a Star.

Secondly Mourinho didnt win a treble at FC Porto. Or better still, tell us the season Mourinho won a treble at Porto

Are you counting the number of errors you have made in the last 2 hrs?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:04pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Carvalho was already playing senior team football at various clubs like Setubal Alverca etc before Mourinho joined Porto So saying Mourinho promoted Carvalho from the academy is FALSE.

So now tell us a player Mourinho took from the academy and made a Star.

Secondly Mourinho didnt win a treble at FC Porto. Or better still, tell us the season Mourinho won a treble at Porto

Are you counting the number of errors you have made in the last 2 hrs?
porto signed carvalho to their junior team, they loaned him out to two unknown clubs, mou came, promoted him to porto senior team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 4:05pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
you see..you don shift post again. we dey talk about promoting players you don run go trophies.with barca its possible, enrique failed in italy(outside spain) but now if them dey count coach wey win treble him go come out as well. mou dominated european football with porto and inter milan. Btw, who name tiki taka as the only way to play football huh, how many world cup spain get compare to brazil and italy who nor dey play tiki taka or how many ucl barca get compare to liverpool, ac milan n real madrid wey nor dey play tiki taka.
fyi, tiki taka is boring to many people around the world.
lol.. Iol.. you said he did nothing at Barca na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:09pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
porto signed carvalho to their junior team, they loaned him out to two unknown clubs, mou came, gave promoted him to porto senior team.

Setubal is not an unknown club

He already played some games for Porto first team in between the loans.

Carvalho already had over 80 appearance in Portuguese First division before Mourinho came to Porto. If Man Utd loans a player to Sunderland, Aston Villa and Everton where he gathered over 80 apperances and a coach brough him at 24yrs back to the team would you say he was coming from the youth team?

1. Tell us a player Mourinho brought from the youth team and made a star in all his career

2. Tell us the year FC Porto won a treble
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:10pm On Jul 20, 2015
Odunharry:

lol.. Iol.. you said he did nothing at Barca na
barca is a rich club with quality players before pep reason i said he did nothing compare to mou with fc porto. even enrique won treble with barca last season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:17pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Setubal is not an unknown club

He already played some games for Porto first team in between the loans.

Carvalho already had over 80 appearance in Portuguese First division before Mourinho came to Porto. If Man Utd loans a player to Sunderland, Aston Villa and Everton where he gathered over 80 apperances and a coach brough him at 24yrs back to the team would you say he was coming from the youth team?

1. Tell us a player Mourinho brought from the youth team and made a star in all his career

2. Tell us the year FC Porto won a treble
1. if that's your stand then ferguson, wenger did not bring any players from academy rather the youth coach did.

2. Jose Mourinho's star was rising as he led Porto to a treble in his first full season in charge.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2377/top-10/2010/05/23/1925793/top-10-teams-to-win-the-treble
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:23pm On Jul 20, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
✔ ✔ Oga from wey yhu carry dis news from✔✔?

Coogar, Elampiro, StarBoard, Sailorxy, Afrodoc2, dopeJemi, etc... Did you ghuys hear and read this news from anywhere?

Van Gaal did no say anything like that. The last thing Gaal said was that there could be a surprised signing in that department. If anyone has a new development , he should back it with link.

This is my analysis about the situation.

1. No club will release its top striker because they are currently scarce.

2. Lacazette seems to be the good striker we can pluck easily. (I don't watch his games. I am only following what I read here) . But read below what he said :

"I want to show those who think that I have my
head elsewhere that I'm still here," he told
reporters. "I have already said that I want to
continue with Lyon.
"I have shown that I'm fully committed. It's
football that interests me, not money. I hope to
have a strong season."-Lacazette, this weekend.

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4102/transfer-zone/2015/07/19/13710732/lacazette-tells-arsenal-and-liverpool-im-staying-at-lyon

3. We should bear in mind that the players being assembled point to a direction which suggests we will be playing 4-3-3. This formation is not suited to all strikers. It`s strikers with build up abilities that can flourish in this formation. We are looking at a fluid three. Strikers like Suarez love this formation. Some great strikers may be a liability in this formation. Not that they will not score, but the entire attacking play will be dragging and games could be lost as a result.

4. We have to hunt for a striker who can play what the manager wants and is available. Here comes the problem. Many of the names being suggested are point men specialists.

5. I am of the opinion that Pedro could get the job done if bought. If we have two players who can get 20 goals, and a third person able to add 15 goals, we could win the title. In 2011/12 City won the title with non of their players reaching 25 goals. Van Persie and Rooney who scored highest won nothing.

We are surely also going to get goals from Mata, Herrera, Fellaini , De Pay, etc.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
1. if that's your stand then ferguson, wenger did not bring any players from academy rather the youth coach did.

2. Jose Mourinho's star was rising as he led Porto to a treble in his first full season in charge.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2377/top-10/2010/05/23/1925793/top-10-teams-to-win-the-treble

Ferguson has several players to point to that he took from the clubs academy and brought into the first team e.g Paul Scholes, Wenger has players to point to Tell us ONE player Mourinho brought from the academy and made a star

Tell us the trophies Mourinho won in that season

A treble is winning the Champions League, The major cup and the domestic league in one season

So how did Mourinho win his treble

Ferguson Premier league, FA cup and CL
Pep La Liga, Copa del rey and CL
Juup Bundesliga, DFB Pokal and CL

Tell us how Mourinho won a treble in FC Porto
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:29pm On Jul 20, 2015
raumdeuter:


Ferguson has several players to point to, Wenger has players to point to Tell us ONE player Mourinho brought from the academy and made a star

Tell us the trophies Mourinho won in that season

A treble is winning the Champions League, The major cup and the domestic league in one season

So how did Mourinho win his treble

Ferguson Premier league, FA cup and CL
Pep La Liga, Copa del rey and CL
Juup Bundesliga, DFB Pokal and CL

Tell us how Mourinho won a treble in FC Porto
A treble can be uefa cup, league n carling cup.
mou turn deco, ferreira, carvalho, varane and so many others into a star.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:33pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
A treble can be uefa cup, league n carling cup.
mou turn deco, ferreira, carvalho, varane and so many others into a star.

A UEFA cup and carling cup can never count towards a treble so Mourinho didnt win a treble at FC Porto

Name a player Mourinho brought from Youth team and turned into a star
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
you are the liar here. Where did I say he promote them in my post huh, I said he transformed them to world beaters and turned most of them into establish players/ sought after players. Ferguson signed Andy cole and co to win treble after trying for many years, lvg signed kanu, finidi George and co to win treble as well same with pep. They even included wenger forgetting most of his invisible squad were signed. Lol. The beef is real.
here are the seven starters ferguson signed that won the treble: schmeichel, york, cole, irwin, stam, johnson and blomqvist.

this argument started with your fellow fan claiming LVG is buying the league. You came in and supported him without noticing the mote in your eye. Your manager was worse after spending several years in England, no one can begin to reel out names he promoted and won titles with, then your brother brought went on to bring The 2004 porto to defend Mourinho and i trust man utd fans, no one knows football than them. They exposed him and he went into hiding while you who also jumped on the saddle with him couldn't bear to hide in shame once found out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 4:36pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
A treble can be uefa cup, league n carling cup.
mou turn deco, ferreira, carvalho, varane and so many others into a star.
Europa league ,EPL and mickey mouse cup is a treble in your books?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 4:36pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
1. if that's your stand then ferguson, wenger did not bring any players from academy rather the youth coach did.

2. Jose Mourinho's star was rising as he led Porto to a treble in his first full season in charge.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2377/top-10/2010/05/23/1925793/top-10-teams-to-win-the-treble
Oga Hesben, have you ever heard of Fergie Fledglings? if you haven't, please try to and stop spewing trash.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 5:03pm On Jul 20, 2015
Dayo and others, why are you guys arguing with this guy?

I mean what is the point?
A known troll with subterranean IQ. A debate needs back n forth points at a certain level of cerebration which is definitely above this troll-king.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 5:04pm On Jul 20, 2015
hensben:
A treble can be uefa cup, league n carling cup.
mou turn deco, ferreira, carvalho, varane and so many others into a star.
Young Man

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