kgr28:


How much is nigerias national budget?
National revenue??
What percentage of revenue is going to pay overall debt interests??
how much is left for domestic expenditure??

Nigeria does not have the leverage to borrow externally or borrow above the national thresh-hold. You wouldnt have money to pay back the debt.

lezz:
you really are new here. My guess is that you followed @agaugust here from defenceweb after he used your lazy brains for writing board at that thread.


Now know this; Zulu ,for me, is a collective term for all black slaving southafricans. Everyone in this thread knows it- everyone except you, newbie

lezz:
you really are new here. My guess is that you followed @agaugust here from defenceweb after he used your lazy brains for writing board at that thread.


Now know this; Zulu ,for me, is a collective term for all black slaving southafricans. Everyone in this thread knows it- everyone except you, newbie

ddami:
as in lezz guess we will be starting all the repitive and futile argument & explanation all over again with that Nigga,,, LOL,, I can't deal,,, but maybe I would 'cos he might b interesting...

His not new though,, since 2011,, he's 4 yrs older than me on NL .

kgr28:


Newbie? Collective Term it shows you are stupiidd!! and so now we black SAcans are Zulus and we are SLAVING people

lezz:
Zulu, post apartheid only freed you by name. Every black man in South Africa is a slave. You remain the world's longest serving slaves.

Should I tell you more, Zulu?

kgr28:


slaving /sleɪvɪŋ/
noun
the action of enslaving people.
slave /sleɪv/
verb
work excessively hard.

lezz:
You're an economic slave. A destitute and socially isolated

kgr28:


Are you saying we are extremely poor and we dont have contact with people society at large and do you understand what economic slavery is you are economic slave yourself.
Do you even comprehend what you writing - slaving to destitute.

lezz:
WORLD / AFRICA

Once a major continental force, South Africa's military at a crossroads
South Africa wants to re-establish itself militarily as an important player in Africa's peacekeeping initiatives. But it has to overcome a small budget, and its own needs to police its borders, to move it from a 'critical state of decline.'


By Ryan Lenora Brown, Correspondent / June 29, 2015


Soldiers stand guard as police conduct a raid in Cape Town, South Africa, May 7, 2015. The raid, during which a search was conducted for counterfeit goods, weapons, and illegal immigrants, was one of a series of joint operations carried out with members of the South African National Defence Force.

Mike Hutchings/Reuters/File

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA

The scenes could have been plucked from another era: South African soldiers with machine guns, stopping pedestrians on Johannesburg street corners to ask for their ID documents. Troop carriers lumbering past rows of shacks in the city’s townships late at night, preparing to raid hubs of supposed illegal activity.

But this was March. And more than 300 of these troops were deployed by President Jacob Zuma to help “maintain law and order” in the wake of xenophobic attacks against foreign nationals from around Africa.

Now at the end of June, the Army troops are still here, scouring “crime hotspots” from Cape Town to Bloemfontein as part of “Operation Fiela,” which translates literally “operation clean up the dirt.”

Think you know Africa? Take our geography quiz.
As Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula puts it, the Army had been internally deployed even though it is a time of peace “because there is a crisis” in the country.

This deployment, with its echoes of apartheid-era public policing tactics, shocked many, especially military analysts. They point out that soldiers are on the street just as the military is facing a looming crisis of its own: it stretched thin between its commitment to protect South Africa and it borders, and its desire to establish itself as a leading military force in Africa.

Meanwhile, a review of the country’s military operations is winding its way through parliament, warning that the South African National Defense Force (SANDF[b]) IS in a “critical state of decline” -- owing to a significant mismatch between its current funding levels and its larger ambitions to be a military leader on the African continent. [/b]

“The biggest problem here is that the military simply doesn’t have enough warm bodies to both patrol our borders and participate in large-scale deployments it is committed to on the continent,” says defense analyst Helmoed Heitman, one of the authors of the defense review.

“Government desperately needs to make a decision about what role we want our military to play — either we’re going to be a regional force and then we have to really put the money and troops behind that, or we’re going to completely withdraw from the continent and lose our say in what happens there.”

An evolving military

The roots of the military crisis stretch deep into history, back to the first time that troops marched through Johannesburg streets patrolling for criminal activity.

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Then, “criminals” were largely anti-apartheid activists, and between the 1960s and the 1980s, the white government pumped funding into the military to suppress both rebellions within South Africa’s borders and to fight untrustworthy governments and rebels in surrounding nations. At its peak, the apartheid military had more than 100,000 active conscripts, and consumed 4.4 percent of national GDP, making it one of Africa’s largest and best trained fighting forces.

When South Africa became a democracy in the mid-1990s, however, the new African National Congress government faced down a tremendous task. It sought to merge the white military with guerilla soldiers who had once fought against it, and then to entirely re-script the role of the new force in a region where it had long fome

****modified ******force in a region where it had long fomented conflict, as in Angola and Namibia.

“Because up until then we had been so involved in African countries in such a negative way, Nelson Mandela’s role during his presidency was to say, we’re no longer going to intervene at all, unless specifically asked,” says John Stupart, editor of the African Defense Review. “Besides that, the Mandela presidency also had to be very focused on reuniting South Africa internally and promoting reconciliation, which had very little to do with establishing a foreign policy.”

In fact, he says, both Mr. Mandela and his successor, Thabo Mbeki, displayed little interest in South Africa’s involvement in foreign conflicts. Meanwhile, Mandela was working to undo South Africa’s violent history of exclusion by demilitarizing the borders, and shifting responsibility from the army to the police.

A budget shrinks

As the military rolled back in and outside of South Africa, its budget shrunk rapidly. Equipment began to age and go unreplaced — as did soldiers. From its height of 4.4 percent of GDP in the ‘80s, South African military spending today stands at just 1.2 percent of its GDP.

But as South African democracy sped through its second decade, the problems in the rest of the continent could not be ignored. Its leadership, too, grew more and more concerned with the legacy of isolationism they were building, Mr. Stupart says.

Under the presidency of Mr. Mbeki and later his successor, Jacob Zuma, South Africa began committing troops to peacekeeping missions and interventions in Burundi, the Comoros, Sudan, and the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

“There’s been a rising call for Africa to provide solutions to its own military conflicts, of which there are many,” says Jaco Theunissen, spokesman for the South African Navy. “That has increasingly become our focus because we recognize that we are a part of this continent and its stability.”

Spreading SANDF thin

As the military deployed across the continent, police control of the borders had proven an abysmal failure. “The borders were basically porous,” says Mr. Heitman. And so, in 2009, a year after the country faced the worst bout of xenophobic attacks in its history, SANDF was once again handed responsibility for patrolling the frontiers.

“Government seems to have absorbed the message from the masses that the reason foreigners in this country are attacked is because border control has been too lax,” says Loren Landau, founding director of the African Centre for Migration and Society at the University of the Witwatersrand. “By that logic, the best way to assist foreigners is to arrest them.”

The return to military border control, however, coincided with multiple foreign deployments that experts say have stretched SANDF nearly to a breaking point.

In addition to the 2500 border control troops, another 1400 are currently serving in the “Force Intervention Brigade” in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, while 850 more are deployed to Sudan. South Africa has also pledged to be among the first contributing nations to the African Union’s temporary standby force — the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises — requiring additional soldiers to be available for rapid deployment on a rotating basis.

The number of soldiers required for these projects may seem small for an Army of more than 40,000 troops. But factor in the support personnel, the training between deployments, and VARIOUS health issues — including a high incidence of HIV among soldiers -- and the number of available troops quickly shrinks, says Andre Roux, a consultant to the Institute for Security Studies in Pretoria.

“For every combat soldier you need three people behind them in service,” Mr. Roux says. “And then for every soldier on the ground you need three total — one there, one preparing from deployment, and one recovering from their previous deployment. So when you put these parameters down suddenly you find you don’t have t

ddami:
Well,, die thinks Nigeria does not have leverage to borrow,, But World bank is ready to borrow Nigeria $2.1B....

DIE,, WHAT PERCENT OF YOUR REVENUE IS SERVICING YOUR DEBT OF $144BILLION,,, you seem to miss something here,,,,
Nigeria revenue -- $30B -- debt -- $9B,,,
S.Africa revenue -- $90B -- debt -- $144B,,,

damn, I just checked d moniker and its not even die..mmttssccheww,,, been here since morning and will be starting all over with u again...NOPE

lezz:
WORLD / AFRICA

Once a major continental force, South Africa's military at a crossroads
South Africa wants to re-establish itself militarily as an important player in Africa's peacekeeping initiatives. But it has to overcome a small budget, and its own needs to police its borders, to move it from a 'critical state of decline.'


By Ryan Lenora Brown, Correspondent / June 29, 2015


Soldiers stand guard as police conduct a raid in Cape Town, South Africa, May 7, 2015. The raid, during which a search was conducted for counterfeit goods, weapons, and illegal immigrants, was one of a series of joint operations carried out with members of the South African National Defence Force.

Mike Hutchings/Reuters/File

About these ads
JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA

The scenes could have been plucked from another era: South African soldiers with machine guns, stopping pedestrians on Johannesburg street corners to ask for their ID documents. Troop carriers lumbering past rows of shacks in the city’s townships late at night, preparing to raid hubs of supposed illegal activity.

But this was March. And more than 300 of these troops were deployed by President Jacob Zuma to help “maintain law and order” in the wake of xenophobic attacks against foreign nationals from around Africa.

Now at the end of June, the Army troops are still here, scouring “crime hotspots” from Cape Town to Bloemfontein as part of “Operation Fiela,” which translates literally “operation clean up the dirt.”

Think you know Africa? Take our geography quiz.
As Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula puts it, the Army had been internally deployed even though it is a time of peace “because there is a crisis” in the country.

This deployment, with its echoes of apartheid-era public policing tactics, shocked many, especially military analysts. They point out that soldiers are on the street just as the military is facing a looming crisis of its own: it stretched thin between its commitment to protect South Africa and it borders, and its desire to establish itself as a leading military force in Africa.

Meanwhile, a review of the country’s military operations is winding its way through parliament, warning that the South African National Defense Force (SANDF[b]) IS in a “critical state of decline” -- owing to a significant mismatch between its current funding levels and its larger ambitions to be a military leader on the African continent. [/b]

“The biggest problem here is that the military simply doesn’t have enough warm bodies to both patrol our borders and participate in large-scale deployments it is committed to on the continent,” says defense analyst Helmoed Heitman, one of the authors of the defense review.

“Government desperately needs to make a decision about what role we want our military to play — either we’re going to be a regional force and then we have to really put the money and troops behind that, or we’re going to completely withdraw from the continent and lose our say in what happens there.”

An evolving military

The roots of the military crisis stretch deep into history, back to the first time that troops marched through Johannesburg streets patrolling for criminal activity.

About these ads
Then, “criminals” were largely anti-apartheid activists, and between the 1960s and the 1980s, the white government pumped funding into the military to suppress both rebellions within South Africa’s borders and to fight untrustworthy governments and rebels in surrounding nations. At its peak, the apartheid military had more than 100,000 active conscripts, and consumed 4.4 percent of national GDP, making it one of Africa’s largest and best trained fighting forces.

When South Africa became a democracy in the mid-1990s, however, the new African National Congress government faced down a tremendous task. It sought to merge the white military with guerilla soldiers who had once fought against it, and then to entirely re-script the role of the new force in a region where it had long fome

****modified ******force in a region where it had long fomented conflict, as in Angola and Namibia.

“Because up until then we had been so involved in African countries in such a negative way, Nelson Mandela’s role during his presidency was to say, we’re no longer going to intervene at all, unless specifically asked,” says John Stupart, editor of the African Defense Review. “Besides that, the Mandela presidency also had to be very focused on reuniting South Africa internally and promoting reconciliation, which had very little to do with establishing a foreign policy.”

In fact, he says, both Mr. Mandela and his successor, Thabo Mbeki, displayed little interest in South Africa’s involvement in foreign conflicts. Meanwhile, Mandela was working to undo South Africa’s violent history of exclusion by demilitarizing the borders, and shifting responsibility from the army to the police.

A budget shrinks

As the military rolled back in and outside of South Africa, its budget shrunk rapidly. Equipment began to age and go unreplaced — as did soldiers. From its height of 4.4 percent of GDP in the ‘80s, South African military spending today stands at just 1.2 percent of its GDP.

But as South African democracy sped through its second decade, the problems in the rest of the continent could not be ignored. Its leadership, too, grew more and more concerned with the legacy of isolationism they were building, Mr. Stupart says.

Under the presidency of Mr. Mbeki and later his successor, Jacob Zuma, South Africa began committing troops to peacekeeping missions and interventions in Burundi, the Comoros, Sudan, and the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

“There’s been a rising call for Africa to provide solutions to its own military conflicts, of which there are many,” says Jaco Theunissen, spokesman for the South African Navy. “That has increasingly become our focus because we recognize that we are a part of this continent and its stability.”

Spreading SANDF thin

As the military deployed across the continent, police control of the borders had proven an abysmal failure. “The borders were basically porous,” says Mr. Heitman. And so, in 2009, a year after the country faced the worst bout of xenophobic attacks in its history, SANDF was once again handed responsibility for patrolling the frontiers.

“Government seems to have absorbed the message from the masses that the reason foreigners in this country are attacked is because border control has been too lax,” says Loren Landau, founding director of the African Centre for Migration and Society at the University of the Witwatersrand. “By that logic, the best way to assist foreigners is to arrest them.”

The return to military border control, however, coincided with multiple foreign deployments that experts say have stretched SANDF nearly to a breaking point.

In addition to the 2500 border control troops, another 1400 are currently serving in the “Force Intervention Brigade” in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, while 850 more are deployed to Sudan. South Africa has also pledged to be among the first contributing nations to the African Union’s temporary standby force — the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises — requiring additional soldiers to be available for rapid deployment on a rotating basis.

The number of soldiers required for these projects may seem small for an Army of more than 40,000 troops. But factor in the support personnel, the training between deployments, and VARIOUS health issues — including a high incidence of HIV among soldiers -- and the number of available troops quickly shrinks, says Andre Roux, a consultant to the Institute for Security Studies in Pretoria.

“For every combat soldier you need three people behind them in service,” Mr. Roux says. “And then for every soldier on the ground you need three total — one there, one preparing from deployment, and one recovering from their previous deployment. So when you put these parameters down suddenly you find you don’t have t

lezz:
Of south Africa's 50/52 million people, about 8 percent are white, 2 percent Asians and about 80 percent blacks and coloured 5/8 percent.

Whites makes 85 percent of south Africa's rich. Black's only have 15 percent.

South Africa only has one black billionaire of all the billionaires in the country. White females have more numbers in millionaires than all the number of millionaires of blacks in South Africa .

There are not one black south African owned competitive company in Africa.
That is why south Africa is the most unequal society in the world. The slavery continues.

vandalZA:
LOLEST you made a mistake girlly.......the south African revenue is $120billion........I don't care about Nigerian revenue nothing to compare @AMAKWEREKWERE...!!!

lezz:
Of south Africa's 50/52 million people, about 8 percent are white, 2 percent Asians and about 80 percent blacks and coloured 5/8 percent.

Whites makes 85 percent of south Africa's rich. Black's only have 15 percent.

South Africa only has one black billionaire of all the billionaires in the country. White females have more numbers in millionaires than all the number of millionaires of blacks in South Africa .

There are not one black south African owned competitive company in Africa.
That is why south Africa is the most unequal society in the world. The slavery continues.

agaugust:


Post of the week award !!!
.

vandalZA:
don't be a stupid.d KWEREKWERE........you don't have to compare BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS to WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS because BLACK SAns only have 21years in a process of developing themselves and remember that WHITE SAns have over 400years empowering themselves.........the only day to judge BLACK SAns and compare them to WHITE SAns is the day they have equalized the 400years enjoyed by WHITE SAns.............and if you want to check the progress done buy BLACK SAns on number of millionaires..let me add on what you know DUMMY in 21years of BLACK government in S.AFRICA they produced 9000millionaires which took 400years for WHITE government to produce 36000millionaires, check the ratio and see the difference.....@AMAKWEREKWERE

vandalZA:
are you say MTN is white owned @AMAKWEREKWERE

ddami:
LOLEST,,AMAKWEREKE,,, YOUR BRO.. ALSO SAID NIG. REVENUE IS $20B,, BUT you didn't see that,,,,
$120B,,, but I don't care about what you say...

lezz:
[s][/s] You depict the mindset of millions of Zulu south Africans : denaial/failure to take up responsibilities.

It is either foreigners are taking your jobs and women
Or the Anglo - Dutch are the problem of all your woes.

Even when the world knows you'll rather wait for grants than work.

You have a sense of entitlement in your warped mind which thinks the white man should wipe your ass clean after you finish passing faeces.

The only thing Zulus don't need help help from their Anglo Dutch masters are rape and savage murder

patches689:
Hahahah

Yoh Thiza brah you have brought much destruction today

Be carefull - the ICC may hunt you for warcrimes

lezz:
And please, tell us the name of the Zulu who owns MTN.


Intellectual destitution is worse than HIV. And that's seems to be your road map. Zulu--dummy

vandalZA:
you do care because it seems like you already know everything about south Africa.

agaugust:


You can start the I.D show by posting the data page with photo of your face, full name, house address etc.

Then tell us the name of your employer whom you work for, and post copy of your letter of employment as proof.

After that, I will respond, but for now, I have posted some photos and that is all I will do until you start the I.D. show.


You are one of the 20 South Africans that Augustine kicked around like a football on defenceweb recently, 20 VS 1 and you Southies still lost.

Yes I work in defence industry, as a military researcher in America. If any body thinks otherwise, feel free to challenge my comments on air, land, and sea warfare....even if you are a brigadier general, air marshal, vice admiral....I am ready for anybody'd challenge .


- Augustine
.

vandalZA:
if you can prove me wrong about MTN ownership I'm promising you a $100 in cash.

lezz:
Zulu, post apartheid only freed you by name. Every black man in South Africa is a slave. You remain the world's longest serving slaves.

Should I tell you more, Zulu?

ddami:
LOLEST,,,everything I know about South Africa is what your brothers has been typing here repeatedly for years ...... really, I don't care that's why I keep telling them to mind their business ....

jln115:

Black South Africans were never slaves! We have dealt with this issue before!

DieVluit:


There FACT that your or your kin shop at Shoprite at the South African-built Palms, use MTN and watch DSTV from their rooms at the Protea means that you know more than enough.

ddami:
I will have to do this again,,,Always on rewind
The only things most Nigerians know you own here is MTN and SHOPRITE,,,

MTN -
DSTV -
Shoprite
protea - i

ddami:
Yahoo boy,,, how will you send the money ?? you better help your situation& save for your future .Its bad to depend on Govt.. loans..