hollandis:
He doesnt have a simple waec certificate ,so I expect him to insult the University Graduate by equating them to HND Holders

Misternas89:
BSc n HND differs gidi gan......imagine I was being supervised, lectured n examined by a professor now comparing with an institution where d only PhD holder will be the Rector. The difference is clear jooorh....spent 4 months working on my project( effect of photoperiods on African catfish clarias gariepinus) whereby anoda HND2 student is running helter skelter to his/her departmental library to get a copy of a previous project 4rm anoda person.

Proudly #BScZoologistGraduate

ckmayoca:




I bet u were dropped to zoology because u couldn't meet up wit d cut off mark for ur initial course of study. Guy where r u working if u are done studying Abi u wan become presido like GEJ and govern us like Animals. I pity ur pikins oo cos u talk like ewu already.

Misternas89:

Kk poly student

hollandis:
He doesnt have a simple waec certificate ,so I expect him to insult the University Graduate by equating them to HND Holders

ckmayoca:



i even prefer ewu to him
I bet u were dropped to zoology because u couldn't meet up wit d cut off mark for ur initial course of study. Guy where r u working if u are done studying Abi u wan become presido like GEJ and govern us like Animals. I pity ur pikins oo cos u talk like ewu already.

hassymo5:
thenationonlineng.net/buhari-willing-to-end-bsc-hnd-dichotomy-jamb/

Buhari willing to end Bsc, HND dichotomy – JAMB
Buhari willing to end Bsc, HND dichotomy - JAMB
The Registrar/Chief Executive of the Joint Admission and Matriculation Board, (JAMB), Prof. Dibu Ojerinde Wednesday said President Muhammadu Buhari is willing to implement the waver that will end the Bsc and HND dichotomy.
Buhari received the updated report on the Bsc and HND saga which was presented by the Permanent Secretary Federal Ministry of Education, MacJohn Nwaobiala last Tuesday.
Ojerinde who was part of the delegation said Buhari is willing to end the dichotomy.
He disclosed this in Abuja when he spoke with few selected newsmen on how to solve the lingering crisis of admission into universities.
The JAMB boss revealed that: “The last administration set up a committee to look at how we can now merge the two, the report was ready but it was not handled by the last administration.”
His words: “The system has not given adequate vision for the other levels of education. We have not encouraged technical education, we have not encouraged Teachers education also, in fact we have not encouraged Agricultural education to the extent that everybody feels that the only way to survive is to go to the University.
“The only way to make it is to have a degree, so I am saying we should revisit our system, we should look at why candidates don’t want to go to polytechnics, and we should look at why they don’t want teachers’ education we should also revisit why they don’t want agriculture.
“By our experience, most people will like to study law, engineering, medicine, accountancy, these are the top courses been sought for in the universities nobody wants to study education. So I see we have problem in that area and I am sure the Federal Ministry of Education is trying to solve that problem.
“First of all Technical Education, there’s dichotomy between Bachelors degree and National Diploma or Higher National Diploma, (HND). It was one of the things presented to Mr. President to find a way of implementing the waver of the dichotomy between HND and the Bsc degree. The so called HND should now be changed to Btech which means Bachelor of Technology.
“Former President Musa Yar’Adua may his soul rest in peace, said he doesn’t have any problem with Btech. Unfortunately, government also has not sorted this entire problem. And there are such cases of people like me in this country, I wouldn’t have been able to read, I wouldn’t have been able to go to school. So what I am saying is, government should look at how we can improve technical education.
“Let me refer to what Oby Ezekwensili the former Minister of Education said, she was determined to implement Btech in our Technical System, college of Education. All this places should be well equipped for Btech.
“Four colleges of Education have been upgraded to universities of Education, you will see the rush into those universities now because they can now get bachelor’s degree. And when they come to the public they will not be a push away. So this is where we are, I think if I go by what we saw on Wednesday, President Buhari and the Vice President listened and they were interested in what we presented.”

StOla:


But the Nigerian HND is 5years (2yrs ND, min 1yr work experience, 2yrs HND) post O' levels / WAEC. While a basic Bachelor's is only 4years post O' levels.

Don't you think the HND is rather too long a programme for its inferior status?

Even Ghana has its HND as a 3years programme post O' level / WAEC. UK is only 2 / 3 years depending on the route of entry. In both countries, as it is with most, HND qualifies for a final year entry into a Bachelor's programme (since that extra year is all that is missing in the HND).
Same thing cannot be said about Nigeria, where despite the lousy number of years spent on HND, you end up spending another 2/3/4yrs to top-up the HND to a Bachelor's depending on the degree course and at what level the school decides to admit into in total disregard of the laid down policy on direct entry rules.

This is a good move. It's either the HND programme is reduced to a 3years programme with a 4th year entry into a bachelor's degree, or the HND is renamed to whatever fancy Bachelor's that can be coined.

What the world recognises as HND is not what is obtainable in Nigeria. Nigeria is wasting the years of students, teaching them a Master's and calling it HND or 5 years Bachelor's degree.

StOla:


But the Nigerian HND is 5years (2yrs ND, min 1yr work experience, 2yrs HND) post O' levels / WAEC. While a basic Bachelor's is only 4years post O' levels.

Don't you think the HND is rather too long a programme for its inferior status?

Even Ghana has its HND as a 3years programme post O' level / WAEC. UK is only 2 / 3 years depending on the route of entry. In both countries, as it is with most, HND qualifies for a final year entry into a Bachelor's programme (since that extra year is all that is missing in the HND).
Same thing cannot be said about Nigeria, where despite the lousy number of years spent on HND, you end up spending another 2/3/4yrs to top-up the HND to a Bachelor's depending on the degree course and at what level the school decides to admit into in total disregard of the laid down policy on direct entry rules.

This is a good move. It's either the HND programme is reduced to a 3years programme with a 4th year entry into a bachelor's degree, or the HND is renamed to whatever fancy Bachelor's that can be coined.

What the world recognises as HND is not what is obtainable in Nigeria. Nigeria is wasting the years of students, teaching them a Master's and calling it HND or 5 years Bachelor's degree.

Princecalm:
you should even be ashamed of saying this, for God sake who on earth still holds that against the President

hollandis:
He doesnt have a simple waec certificate ,so I expect him to insult the University Graduate by equating them to HND Holders

ArodewilliamsT:

So because he is the president we should forget that his waec certificate is questionable. If someone submits a certificate that has the passport of a 75 year old man on it to your office as CV, will you employ him. Nigerians are hypocrites.

seyema:
That's what happens when you are being govern by illiterate

egift:






He is a Master Degree holder from the US War College. Find something more tangible to wail about bro!

UYCO:
@MrKing3, I am typing with a phone. The most important thing is that I have passed my message. You seem to be angry with the way I shred your baseless argument into pieces. Next time if you want to ague about HND and BSC dichotomy , pls look for dull HND holders to argue with not me. I am too sophisticsted for you. For your information, BSC holders in my office see me like an expatriate. I teach them theory and practical. They cant use autocad to design , they cant interprete drawings , they cant implement projects without me. I am like a demi god to them. The problem I have with them is that they are more of liability to me. They cant work on their own without my supervision and correction. How long will I breast feed those BSC holders? I will soon write a memo to the Governor of my state to send them to technical school for vocational training because they are totally useless in the engineering profession.

ochukwuma15:

The solution(s) to this is very simple.

First, the cut off mark for admission into polytechnic and university should be the same.

Secondly, every student must pass through OND OR ND as some people will like to call it. This is important for the growth of our industries and factories (if there is any). When you have your ND And you want to drop out of education, you can make use of it.

Thirdly, HND degree should be scraped and all HND awarding institutions should become degree (B.Sc and B.Tech) awarding institutions.

HND have served it's purpose in Nigeria, it's time to do away with it. for that young man that studied zoology, when you talk, i hear the voice of former president Goodluck Jamigbiala Ibrahim Ebele Jonathan.

ArodewilliamsT:


So because he is the president we should forget that his waec certificate is questionable. If someone submits a certificate that has the passport of a 75 year old man on it to your office as CV, will you employ him. Nigerians are hypocrites.

hollandis:
He doesnt have a simple waec certificate ,so I expect him to insult the University Graduate by equating them to HND Holders

Princecalm:
keep proposing theories, even the opposition party saw that their criticism on his certificate doesn't hold water.

ArodewilliamsT:


When did he write waec? The picture on the certificate we saw is that of a 70 year old, let's have a copy of the original if you have it, Oga west germany. Illiterate followers of an illiterate dunce.

Princecalm:
so can you post the picture of the 70 year old man you claim is on the passport? Else roll all what you just posted there and stuck it in your as*