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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:52pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
PEOPLE TELL ME WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU EVER FIND A MISSILE SO ANTIQUE OTHER THAN IN NIGERIA. BWAHAHAHAJAJA… OMG!!! LOOK AT THAT WORKSHOP. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE BACKYARD WORKSHOP. TRULY NAIJA IS STILL BACKWARD 9 Likes
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:59pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7: NOW COUNT FOR ME FROM 2004 TO 2008. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 5:21pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi:2004-366,,, 2005-365,,, 2006-365,,, 2007-365,,, 2008-366,, |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:24pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7: Since you're Einstein in counting of years. Would you also count for us from 31/05/2005 to 31/05/2008. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:26pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7:So how many years are they? tell us 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
patches689:Jap, its difficult to dum down to their level, but I try! 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 5:33pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi:WHAT IS A "CALENDAR YEAR" tell me the months and dates.. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:07pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7: You don't answer my question. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 6:33pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi:1.2004-366,, 2.2005-365,, 3.2006-365,, 4.2007-365,,, 5.2008-366..If 2008 is included you are counting the leap year twice.. 2004-2007(4)... I hope you can now Answer my own question,, Can't you tell me the result the date calculator I posted gave you?? oh its 4years.. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7:This whole argument started when I stated(correctly) that our 4 Valours and 3 Subs were all commissioned in a 2 year time frame, the first Vessel was commissioned in Nov 2005 and the last in Feb 2008. how many years does that equal? Also if I was born in 1994 and have my birth day in 1995 does that then make me 2 years old? because according to you I should be 2 years old because 1994=365/6 and 1995=365!! |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:30pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7: Now I believe that you are crazy. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:41pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Hahahaaha!!! That is not a missile, it's a pole and is decoyed as if is an Apollo. It is not a missile nor a prototype. That place and that uneducated man on overalls speak a volume. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:31pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
jln115:I actually understand what you're talking about Nov 2005-Feb 2008 is 2years 3months,,, I am only telling your brothers that 2005-2008 is also 4years I.e 1/1/ 2005-31/12/2008 because 2008 is leap year..,, http://www.convertunits.com/dates/from/Jan+1,+2005/to/Dec+31,+2008.. About your birth this link explains it all... It has to do with either the inclusion/exclusion of the end day... I hope you understand... |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
shizzy7:I understand what your saying to!! If you include the whole 2005 and the whole 2008 then its 4 years(regardless if its a leap year or not, why you guys are arguing about leap years I don't understand), but that's not how you calculate how many years are between curtain years, you have to take the same day and month of each year. THUS from 2005 to 2oo8 is 3 years 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 9:41pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
lionel4power:is that an atomic weapon carrier? Lol. Nice one. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:05am On Aug 07, 2015 |
@Lionel4power stop posting rubbish....is that a missile or christmas firecrakker....HERE IS THE REAL MISSILES DESIGNED, MANUFACTURED AND PRODUCED BY SOUTH AFRICA
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:07am On Aug 07, 2015 |
@Lionel4power this is SOUTH AFRICAN
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:08am On Aug 07, 2015 |
SOUTH AFRICA
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:09am On Aug 07, 2015 |
STATE OF NIGERIAN POLICE BARRACKS He was drenched with sweat by the time he wriggled himself through the narrow entrance of his room into the passageway. Looking very depressed and drowsy that Thursday afternoon, he dragged himself along the hole-ridden passage and collapsed into the rickety sofa beside the staircase that leads to the upper floors in one of the buildings in the barracks. With frustration written all over his face, Emma Uden (not real names), a sergeant in the police, kept muttering to himself, but dosed off few minutes later. Apparently disturbed by the music blaring in his neighbourhood, Uden could not but open his eyes feebly and intermittently. His pain was obvious to anyone who came across him, but the reason for his frustration was largely unknown. However, as Uden would later tell our correspondent in a conversation he grudgingly consented to, since the apartment allotted to him in the barracks collapsed in June last year, he and his family had been living in the kitchen of one of the dilapidated buildings in Pedro police barracks, Somolu, Lagos. That was his main frustration. “It was the only alternative we had at that time,” he said, as he unbuttoned his shirt to enjoy some fresh air. Since he and his family were constrained to live in a room (kitchen), he said life had become one of bitterness and frustration. To escape the intense heat of the day and the constant constraint of space that his family of six could never live comfortably with, Uden had been used to sitting outside anytime he was home. Hoping that respite could eventually come his way if he opened up to Saturday PUNCH, Uden wasted no time in leading our correspondent to his room where he lives with his wife and their four children. He opened the door and lowered his head as he made to enter, to avoid being bruised on the head by the doorframe. As he opened the curtain for our correspondent to enter, the odour, which seemed like a mixture of wet rug and accumulated sweat, that oozed out of the stuffy room was disturbing and could make anybody puke. The room was like a store reserved for unused household items. The only window in the room appeared dysfunctional while the base of the wall that was visible was seriously dampened, and the ceiling riddled with signs of serious dilapidation. Expectedly, Uden, whose four children had occupied the only bed in the room, appeared discomfited by the state of the place he called home as he continually scratched his head to look for the right words. Even though he is not alone in such a tortuous situation in the premises, he said he had resorted to coming home just to sleep, unless he was off duty. This, he said, was to avail his family some space in the room and that sometimes he would rather stay in his office or volunteer to go on patrol, all in a bid to stay away from home. They don’t even live alone in the house, occasionally, the family live with big rats that find their way out of the broken septic tank located close to the kitchen into the room. He said, “When we were still living in the room and parlour before our building collapsed last year, we were managing because of the small space, not to talk of now that we have just one room, which used to be a kitchen. It’s like living in a cave. That is the lot of most of us. “Can you imagine that? We live in a kitchen, and you want policemen to be your friends while you all live in your comfortable mansions. You expect us to carry rifle and risk our lives to protect people. Haba!” His passionate expression of grief was second to none, even though he said he had concluded arrangements to leave the barracks for a room and parlour accommodation he secured somewhere in Bariga area of Lagos. He added, “If nobody takes care of us, we will take care of ourselves, because apart from the space issue, we (residents of this barracks) queue to use toilet and bathroom, because the ones available are not adequate. So we queue to bathe every morning. Here, three-room and parlour flats share one toilet and bathroom. For me and my family who live in an abandoned kitchen, we pair with another flat. So, we join the queue every morning. “Don’t forget that we are all adults with families. I feel ashamed that I go through this every morning? Tell those people in government what you saw here. Let them know we are suffering. Even when we get to the office, we either sit under the tree or stand in the sun.” Some other policemen in the barracks who shared Uden’s views, lamented over the poor state of infrastructure in the barracks, saying they had always been living in perpetual fear for their lives, occasioned by the decrepit buildings. As our correspondent observed during the visit, almost all the buildings in the barracks had obvious signs of imminent collapse. In fact, the derelict of the block six that collapsed last year gives an impression that the collapse must have been imminent before it happened. ‘I cry when I look at my children’ One of Uden’s neighbours, who also lives in a room and parlour, told Saturday Punch that it is interesting that Nigerians expect so much from policemen they are not well taken care of. He said the hardship and the living condition he had had to subject his four children and his pregnant wife to made him cry sometimes. Fighting back tears, he said, “Sometimes, when I look at the way my children sleep on the floor, sweat almost all the time because of the poor ventilation, and the obvious frustration and inconvenience written on their faces, I cry. I know that they are not happy with the situation, but they are helpless. “I pity them when I see them going out to look for water, living in such a condition. Sometimes, when I’m at work, I think about them and it affects me. These things make me cry, silently. Sometimes, we are on the same queue at the entrance of the bathroom. You can imagine that. Which father will be proud of such?” The situation at the Pedro Barracks is akin to what obtains in many other barracks across the country. It also revealed how barracks that used to be a status symbol for policemen have become a shadow of death in disguise. In the past, it was mandatory for police officers and men to live in the barracks, as they were prevented from living among ‘civilians,’ but years after, the reverse is now the case. These days, the status symbol is for any policeman worth his salt to live outside the barracks due to the ignominious life that obtains in there. Some of them even said jokingly that they live like prisoners. This shift, as pointed out by the policemen who have lived in the barracks for many years, was due to the lack of maintenance of the barracks, increasing population with no attendant improvement in facilities and the refusal of the government to build new barracks for policemen... http://www.punchng.com/feature/super-saturday-feature/we-live-like-rats-yet-nigerians-want-us-to-be-their-friends-policemen-living-in-dilapidated-barracks/ |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:10am On Aug 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:46am On Aug 07, 2015 |
shizzy7: Lady you have to count it from 2004 so that you can count the whole of 2005 to 2008 to get 4 years. Your accuracy will only be 1 out of 100 chances if you were to say that from 2005 to 2008 is 4 years and that would only be from the 1st of January 2005 to 31st December 2008. So, now what if we randomly choose the 2nd of January 2005, will the results remain the same? Nope, it will change everything and destroy all your argument since it will then have to extend to 2009 to make and complete 4years. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 2:24pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 3:44pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
Indian Air Force 'beats RAF 12-0 in training exercise' – using Russian-designed jets Friday 07 August 2015 India’s top guns have claimed they humiliated the cream of the RAF during a two-week exercise which offered British pilots a rare chance to go up against some of the latest Russian-designed fighter jets. Operation Indradhanush saw the Indian Air Force (IAF) bring four of its fleet of Russian-designed SU-30MKI Flanker fighter aircraft to RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire to face off against the RAF’s Typhoon FGR4 fighter. The exercise was relished by British pilots as an opportunity to train alongside Russian-designed aircraft, amid increasing tensions in the Baltic – where the RAF has deployed fighters following the conflict in Ukraine – and more frequent interceptions of Russian bombers off the British coastline. However, to the dismay of RAF officers, their Indian counterparts have reportedly taken the unusual step of publicly claiming to have come away from the exercise with a resounding 12-0 victory against their UK opponents. In an interview with Indian television, IAF Group Captain Ashu Srivastav claimed victory over the British aircraft during close-range dogfights – prompting an RAF source to label his claim “comical”. Group Captain Srivastav said the performance of his pilots was “exceptional”, while other reports in the Indian media said that IAF aircraft were able to defeat the more advanced RAF Typhoon aircraft not only in one-on-one combat, but also in situations where one IAF pilot was pitted against two Typhoons. Responding to the Indian claims, the RAF source they were clearly designed for the “domestic audience”. He told The Independent: “There must have been some clouded recollection on the flights back to India, as the headlines of the Indian press bear no relation to the results of the tactical scenarios completed on the exercise in any shape or form.” Read more: Russian military aircraft intercepted by RAF Typhoons Missiles 'fall off' RAF fighter jet as it lands at Akrotiri Britain set to launch RAF strikes on Isis in Iraq and Syria The RAF source also stressed that the Typhoons had effectively been fighting “with one arm behind their backs” as they did not make full use of their more advanced weapons systems. Tony Osborne, the London bureau chief of Aviation Week, also suggested caution when dealing with the Indian claims. “These cricket-style scores claimed by the IAF look impressive but should be treated with caution and certainly not as a realistic gauge of combat capability,” he said. “We have to view these scores through the haze of pilot bravado, national pride and also some political correctness. Nonetheless, the Su-30MKI is one of the aircraft that the Typhoon was designed to tackle and defeat, and no doubt in the right hands would present a potent challenge. Today [though] the aim would be to engage aircraft like the Su-30MKI from long-range before the two could come together in a dogfight.” Even the Indian pilot admitted the SU-30s were “less successful” in the longer-range combat exercises. Aviation experts also pointed to an exercise in 2011 when RAF fighters decimated the ranks of the visiting IAF pilots, prompting the then Air Chief Marshal of the RAF, Stephen Dalton, to comment: “Well, they lost.” A spokesperson for the RAF said of this summer’s exercises: “Our analysis does not match what has been reported, RAF pilots and the Typhoon performed well throughout the exercise with and against the Indian Air Force. Both [forces] learnt a great deal from the exercise and the RAF look forward to the next opportunity to train alongside the IAF.” The RAF has seven frontline Typhoon squadrons equipped but it has recently been reported that the RAF’s fast jet fleet, which is set to shrink to its smallest size in history by the end of the decade, is stretched to the limit while carrying out operations in the Middle East and the Baltic. This week, Ministry of Defence officials granted another reprieve to ageing Tornado strike jets because of a shortage of aircraft needed to bomb Isis targets. Typhoon FGR4: Britain’s best Armament rating 8.0/10 Manoeuvrability 9.7/10 Max Rate of Climb 65k ft/min Service Ceiling 65k ft Max Speed 2.35 Mach Fuel Economy 0.68 km/l Unit Cost $125m Probability of winning cannon dogfight 66% Sukhoi su-30Mk1: Russia's best Armament rating 8.5/10 Manoeuvrability 7.8/10 Max Rate of Climb 60k ft/min Service Ceiling 56k ft Max Speed 1.90 Mach Fuel Economy 0.58 km/l Unit Cost $47m Probability of winning cannon dogfight 34% http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/indian-air-force-beats-raf-120-in-training-exercise--using-russiandesigned-jets-10444466.html 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:50pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
bidexiii: Been waiting for this to turn up, all ready been discussed in depth in the more serious forums I follow 1. We dont know the parameters of the exercise 2. WVR not BVR Into the trash it goes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 7:34pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
patches689:1. In the real ware fare ur parameters will not be determine by u, ur technology should work in any given weather/situation or parameter? 2. Do not deviate! WVR or BVR was not mention? Of course it's a dog fight or one on one competition ; the rule his ;BVR fighter performance in WVR● as experienced in most cases 99%, BVR combat does not work against competent opponent● result: fighters forced to fight within visual range– requirements: small size, light weight, low wing loading, low thrust loading, low drag, high fuelfraction, numerical superiority, ability toachieve quick kills● how do BVR fighters compare?– BVR requirements: high speed, large missile payload, large radar >> maneuvering and numerical . So ur point is baseless 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:20pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Bwahahaha these Nigerian olodos still don't know the difference between rubbish and quality. After so many years of being schooled on this thread, they still post their second-grade stuff here. They have no shame.  |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 10:02pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
jln115:well, I was using the 'calendar year' to calculate it and also thinking that extra one day in 2008 makes it exactly 4years...thus,1460days/365=4....,,,1/1/2005-1/1/2009 is 1,461days/365.25=4 so the +1 day already cancels out 1/1/09.....but I get it now..,,, Though the 1st-1st is not always accurate such as 30th June 2015 which actually ended at 11:59:60 instead of 12:00 1/7/2015,, 'cos there was an extra second added called the "leap second". it was 61sec instead of 60sec (11:59:59)..,, Somehow,I think am right but I admit that I was wrong.. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 10:43pm On Aug 07, 2015 |
FighterPilot: shizzy7: FighterPilot: |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:08am On Aug 08, 2015 |
bidexiii: dude, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. So let me drop some knowledge on you. 1. Parameters. Parameters are important because they are often skewed. When the USAF flew F15 E's against Indian Mig 29's in India the Indians recorded a "decisive" victory - but then later it turned out that the Indians refused BVR contacts, that 3 F15's were fighting up to 18 Mig 29's (1v3) and that the simulated missile hit probability for the Indians was 100% and only 50% for the Americans. So that big win wasnt actually a big win. Going on the results of Wargames without knowledge of the parameters is a waste of time On one of the forums I frequent we managed to come up with parameters for an exercise that would allow an Apache (helicopter) to consistently defeat both F-22's and Su30MKI's (guns only, <100m altitude, mountainous terrain) 2. Dip-shit, NATO doctrine is focused solely around BVR combat The Gripen C/D can beat the Su30MKI in BVR combat... the Eurofighter will annihilate it! Thats why the Indians always refuse to have BVR in their exercises!! Face facts, if you are going up against the Eurofighter, you are going up against a country with AWACS and a top teir data-link - meaning that those Eurofighters will be vectored onto you and engage you without ever radiating and thus staying undetected. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 9:24am On Aug 08, 2015 |
patches689: Deviating. Dummies like r very good @ it cos u know nothing of what u r talking about so why don't u take humble bow and work out ! 1 parameters ; u should defined ur parameters well I don't know where u came up with the idea ,because no military combact exercise or even stimulation will come up with USAF 3 F15 E's against IAF 18 mig 29. That's not a fear parameter to come up with ? Please I need that source when and where that can of combact exercise took place ! Now coming to the issue of the IAF pilots avoiding USAF BVR contacts,then there was WVR contacts ? can u see ur parameters assumption ar unrealistic because there is nothing in for the f-15E's with a wider radar range and the mig's r avoiding bvr combacts !!!! -3 usaf f-15E's vs. 18 Iaf mig 29's ratio 1:6 -iaf migs avoiding bvr combact Ur parameter for the combact exercise is a totally unrealistic ! In one of ur forums u came up with a dummy idea or assumption given a parameters whereby an apache will consistently defeat both "stealthy" F-22's raptor and Su30MKI's (guns only, <100m altitude, mountainous terrain) ; I can argue that for now cos its unrealistic but I totally disagree with, people make assumptiion given conditions/parameters ! 2 NATO doctrine is focused solely around BVR combat ; false NATO is focused around BVR and WVR combact: even dummies should know that ?! 2B ; just knew the extent of how dummy ur brains are for u to make such statement that The Gripen C/D can beat the Su30MKI in BVR combat... that is in ur wild dreams ! Gripen C/D does not stand a chance with su30mkI Here is a source given 10 best BVR combacts jet and ur almighty gripen did not make d list ! http://hushkit.net/2013/06/26/the-ten-best-bvr-fighters-of-2013/ Dummy I av drope enough knowledge to ur brains if u would accept humbly ! 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:03am On Aug 08, 2015 |
shizzy7: Lady how about if you make an appointment with a psychiatrist to check whether your brain function well or not. I told you that you will be wrong in 99% of probabilities. What if we shift the date to 3rd or 4th of January 2005, so will the same results remain? Nope. So, to be certain that it will make four years at any day of 2005 you just have to read it from 2004. It will not make sense to put all your hopes on only one chance out of hundred chances. |
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