Jagoon:

PURE DESCRIPTION OF ISLAM:
I.S.L.A.M. = I Serve Lucifer And Mohammad
I.S.L.A.M = I Steal(copy of Bible Only Twisted), Lie And Murder
I.S.L.A.M = International Society of Liars and Murderers
PS. You can marry 1 year old babies in islam.

abduljabbar4:

Joseph who was 90 years old married a 12 year old mary and im yet to hear any of you hypocrites criticising

Scholar8200:
Mary was sure older than 12 years then!!! There is not a hint of those ages in the Bible so where did you get them from?!
1. She was cousin (not niece) to an Old woman:Elizabeth.(described as being well-stricken in years Luke 1:7). Hence, it's impossible that she was 12.
2. The angel said to Mary, blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:28) A twelve year-old is still a girl!
3. She already had her own apartment Luke 1:56 else it would have read ,"her father's house".
4. Twelve year olds were still fully subject to their parents authority and care eg Jesus was 12 when Mary and Joseph missed Him after the feast (Luke 2:42) and afterwards, He went with them and was subject to His earthly parents (Luke 2:51)

I am yet to find ANY man in the Bible that got married to one of such a young age! Abraham and Sarah attained ripe old age at the same time meaning the gap between their ages was moderate; likewise Zechariah and Elizabeth, Isaac and Rebecca, David and Abigail, Jacob and Leah/Rachel etc

Scholar8200:
Mary was sure older than 12 years then!!! There is not a hint of those ages in the Bible so where did you get them from?!
1. She was cousin (not niece) to an Old woman:Elizabeth.(described as being well-stricken in years Luke 1:7). Hence, it's impossible that she was 12.
2. The angel said to Mary, blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:28) A twelve year-old is still a girl!
3. She already had her own apartment Luke 1:56 else it would have read ,"her father's house".
4. Twelve year olds were still fully subject to their parents authority and care eg Jesus was 12 when Mary and Joseph missed Him after the feast (Luke 2:42) and afterwards, He went with them and was subject to His earthly parents (Luke 2:51)

I am yet to find ANY man in the Bible that got married to one of such a young age! Abraham and Sarah attained ripe old age at the same time meaning the gap between their ages was moderate; likewise Zechariah and Elizabeth, Isaac and Rebecca, David and Abigail, Jacob and Leah/Rachel etc

Scholar8200:
Mary was sure older than 12 years then!!! There is not a hint of those ages in the Bible so where did you get them from?!

1. She was cousin (not niece) to an Old woman:Elizabeth.(described as being well-stricken in years Luke 1:7). Hence, it's impossible that she was 12.

2. The angel said to Mary, blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:28) A twelve year-old is still a girl!

3. She already had her own apartment Luke 1:56 else it would have read ,"her father's house".

4. Twelve year olds were still fully subject to their parents authority and care eg Jesus was 12 when Mary and Joseph missed Him after the feast (Luke 2:42) and afterwards, He went with them and was subject to His earthly parents (Luke 2:51)

I am yet to find ANY man in the Bible that got married to one of such a young age! Abraham and Sarah attained ripe old age at the same time meaning the gap between their ages was moderate; likewise Zechariah and Elizabeth, Isaac and Rebecca, David and Abigail, Jacob and Leah/Rachel etc

Demmzy15:


It's found in the Catholic Encyclopedia or I should say the "Apocryphal" works.



This can't serve as a point because my family itself is a prove against this. My grandmother had her first cousin when she was 48years old. Now her cousin is 40years. That makes my grandmother 88, we can use this as an example with Mary. Assuming Elizabeth was 48years when Mary was born, in 12years time she'll(Elizabeth) be 60years(an old woman as you claimed).



The average age a Girl starts puberty is 11years old, you're using today's standard to judge an event of over 2000years ago. It's a known fact that the body changes/adapts to the area you stay with time, we've had cases of girls giving birth at ages 9,10 and 11 in this generations. Wikipedia states: "According to Jewish tradition, adulthood is reached at age 13 (the minimal age of the Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah) for Jewish boys and girls; they are expected to demonstrate preparation for adulthood by learning the Torah and other Jewish practices."



This shows you that indeed she took over her responsibility as woman or probably an adult. She could take care of herself, live alone(if the house wasn't near her parents')



Even as old as you're now, you're still under their authority and care. My bone of contention is at that age as of then, 12year olds got married. It happens!



That's another issue on its own, inc'est and all sort nasty sexual crimes were committed. So I'll advice we keep that away!

NUMBERS 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

abduljabbar4:

Thank you my brother. I have learnt a lot from this post. Lieman2012, do you have any rubbish to type again?

Demmzy15:


It's found in the Catholic Encyclopedia or I should say the "Apocryphal" works.



This can't serve as a point because my family itself is a prove against this. My grandmother had her first cousin when she was 48years old. Now her cousin is 40years. That makes my grandmother 88, we can use this as an example with Mary. Assuming Elizabeth was 48years when Mary was born, in 12years time she'll(Elizabeth) be 60years(an old woman as you claimed).



The average age a Girl starts puberty is 11years old, you're using today's standard to judge an event of over 2000years ago. It's a known fact that the body changes/adapts to the area you stay with time, we've had cases of girls giving birth at ages 9,10 and 11 in this generations. Wikipedia states: "According to Jewish tradition, adulthood is reached at age 13 (the minimal age of the Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah) for Jewish boys and girls; they are expected to demonstrate preparation for adulthood by learning the Torah and other Jewish practices."



This shows you that indeed she took over her responsibility as woman or probably an adult. She could take care of herself, live alone(if the house wasn't near her parents')



Even as old as you're now, you're still under their authority and care. My bone of contention is at that age as of then, 12year olds got married. It happens!



That's another issue on its own, inc'est and all sort nasty sexual crimes were committed. So I'll advice we keep that away!

NUMBERS 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

abduljabbar4:

Joseph who was 90 years old married a 12 year old mary and im yet to hear any of you hypocrites criticising

Demmzy15:


It's found in the Catholic Encyclopedia or I should say the "Apocryphal" works.



This can't serve as a point because my family itself is a prove against this. My grandmother had her first cousin when she was 48years old. Now her cousin is 40years. That makes my grandmother 88, we can use this as an example with Mary. Assuming Elizabeth was 48years when Mary was born, in 12years time she'll(Elizabeth) be 60years(an old woman as you claimed).



The average age a Girl starts puberty is 11years old, you're using today's standard to judge an event of over 2000years ago. It's a known fact that the body changes/adapts to the area you stay with time, we've had cases of girls giving birth at ages 9,10 and 11 in this generations. Wikipedia states: "According to Jewish tradition, adulthood is reached at age 13 (the minimal age of the Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah) for Jewish boys and girls; they are expected to demonstrate preparation for adulthood by learning the Torah and other Jewish practices."



This shows you that indeed she took over her responsibility as woman or probably an adult. She could take care of herself, live alone(if the house wasn't near her parents')



Even as old as you're now, you're still under their authority and care. My bone of contention is at that age as of then, 12year olds got married. It happens!



That's another issue on its own, inc'est and all sort nasty sexual crimes were committed. So I'll advice we keep that away!

NUMBERS 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

malvisguy212:

Luke 1:26-34
"Now in the sixth month the angel
Gabriel was sent by God to a city of
Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin
BETROTHED TO A MAN whose name was
Joseph, of the house of David. The
virgin’s name was Mary. And having
come in, the angel said to her,
“Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord
is with you; blessed are you AMONG
WOMEN!” But when she saw him, she
was troubled at his saying, and
considered what manner of greeting
this was. Then the angel said to her,
“Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have
found favor with God. And behold, you
will conceive in your womb and bring
forth a Son, and shall call His name
Jesus. He will be great, and will be
called the Son of the Highest; and the
Lord God will give Him the throne of
His father David. And He will reign
over the house of Jacob forever, and of
His kingdom there will be no end.”
Then Mary said to the angel, “HOW CAN THIS BE,SINCE I DO NOT KNOW A MAN?”

She is called a "VIRGIN," but also
"AMONG WOMEN." When Gabriel
announces her impending conception,
she already is "BETROTHED TO A MAN "
and expresses knowledge of the need for sexual intercourse to conceive: “HOW CAN THIS BE,SINCE I DO NOT KNOW A MAN?” like scholar pointed out , a little girl of 12 years cannot be call a woman or even called "Amoung women" the people accused her of adultery , surly , they cannot accused a little girl unless she is a woman, a grown woman.

adullam210:

new discovery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get their ages?

abduljabbar4:

Joseph who was 90 years old married a 12 year old mary and im yet to hear any of you hypocrites criticising

Demmzy15:

Don't glance at post read them, I dealt with everything you're saying here!

malvisguy212:
trash!! God himself will NEVER sanctioned the marriage of a man with a little girl.

truthman2012:


Stop lying.

This is type of lies allahh told here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets

Old man maintain yourself o!

adullam210:

new discovery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get their ages?

truthman2012:


Stop lying.

This is type of lies allahh told here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets

Demmzy15:

Old man maintain yourself o!

Rilwayne001:


Pay no attention to that shameless old man.. See how he was bragging on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2501334/questions-muslims-been-avoiding that no one can answer the question and that muslim are avoiding it. When he got the answer, he called it trash and then he opened another thread to type another trash only to say; no muslim can answer his trash. Definitely, if one should tackle the next thread, he would call it trash too and then open another one to say no one can answer it.. on and on like that, thereby making our effort futile. The man has no shame at all.

Exactly, that's why I don't take him serious anymore. Always making a fool of himself, his footsoldiers(Jag'oon and jcross1'9) would follow spill sh't, because their daddy is around.... Later he'll be telling us his daughter pause in the air when he shouted Jesus.. Lol.

Jagoon:

PURE DESCRIPTION OF ISLAM:
I.S.L.A.M. = I Serve Lucifer And Mohammad
I.S.L.A.M = I Steal(copy of Bible Only Twisted), Lie And Murder
I.S.L.A.M = International Society of Liars and Murderers
PS. You can marry 1 year old babies in islam.

plainbibletruth:


Lying is these guys' nature. 

They quote unsubstantiated writings. 

They want their assumptions to be regarded as truth. 

They create 'standards' as the need arises so as to justify their position or their 'prophet's misdeeds. 

They then pat themselves on the back for writing long posts, for misquoting the Bible they can NEVER understand and for using lopsided logic. 

What of you? do you quote from truthful sources?! I saw your deception in that nonsense thread, you refused to quote me so as the readers would think you've succeeded, but be restassured I'll reply you. Please the pagan origins of the bible is hanging!

Demmzy15:

Mr. Man go back and read, stop behaving like robot. Child marriage is a common trend amongst Jews and you're a Nigerian! It's their culture, your culture might not permit it but that doesn't mean others don't. Don't be irrational!

plainbibletruth:


Lying is these guys' nature. 

They quote unsubstantiated writings. 

They want their assumptions to be regarded as truth. 

They create 'standards' as the need arises so as to justify their position or their 'prophet's misdeeds. 

They then pat themselves on the back for writing long posts, for misquoting the Bible they can NEVER understand and for using lopsided logic. 

Demmzy15:

Mr. Man go back and read, stop behaving like robot. Child marriage is a common trend amongst Jews and you're a Nigerian! It's their culture, your culture might not permit it but that doesn't mean others don't. Don't be irrational!

adullam210:

give us vivid examples of Jewish child brides. Note that muhamad was a prophet of alahh; 'best of mankind', not a mere Arab man. Comparing him (best of mankind) with ordinary people shouldn't even be contemplated by any sane Muslims, but as market com be na, una just dey try look for excuses to make d evil prophet look acceptable to people sha!

Demmzy15:

This the problem with you Christians, your sense is very tiny. You can't think straight, none of you have refuted what I wrote. Instead of you to do that, you've been raining curses. Nawa o, go back to my replies I gave Scholar820, I showed what Jews call an "adult". I advise you not to quote me if you don't have manners because if I start with you, you go hate me.

malvisguy212:
child marriage a common trend to the Jews ? But none of biblical kings or leaders marry a little girl , will God allow Joseph to marry a little girl? The angel called her "blessed AMONG WOMEN". For Mary to be betrothed (engaged) but not YET
formally married, yet OLD ENOUGH to have and nurse the Messiah, she would have been a young woman of about 20 upward.

Demmzy15:

This the problem with you Christians, your sense is very tiny. You can't think straight, none of you have refuted what I wrote. Instead of you to do that, you've been raining curses. Nawa o, go back to my replies I gave Scholar820, I showed what Jews call an "adult". I advise you not to quote me if you don't have manners because if I start with you, you go hate me.

malvisguy212:
child marriage a common trend to the Jews ? But none of biblical kings or leaders marry a little girl ,

will God allow Joseph to marry a little girl?

The angel called her "blessed AMONG WOMEN". For Mary to be betrothed (engaged) but not YET
formally married, yet OLD ENOUGH to have and nurse the Messiah, she would have been a young woman of about 20 upward.

truthman2012:

[s]…These jihadists are a very terrible set of people. They are worse than herbalists.They believe so much in telling lies like their god, al-liar (allahh). They tell lies without any shame. The irony of it is that they are the ones who would first call you a liar, without being able to point out the lies. When you cite their quran, they shout 'out of context' whereas the quran itself has no 'context'. They will then quote the saying of any islamic clergy who just formulated the context without any islamic documents. There is one of them, fake truthman2013 also known as Rilwayne01, he is so clever in lying using any quranic verse to mean what he wants. Can you imagine him interpreting Christians mentioned by quran to mean muslims? It is a very serious case. And to him and his cohorts he has given good refutal. Self deceivers or should I say ''deceived to deceive''. In his attempt to deceive nairalanders, he changed his moniker to look like mine to confuse readers. Satanic wisdom. Now, because there is no lie to tell and they can not hide under ''context'' they all ran away from the attack by the truth in a thread ''Muhammad Vs Other Prophets''. That thread that exposes the lies of alliar (allahh) will continue to hunt them till they desist from the god that has perfected a religion for them to send them to hell. They will continue seeing the thread on daily basis. This god (al-liar) told them in no ambigous term that he is sending them to hell but because they have been hypnotised and manipulated, it doesn't matter to them. May God deliver them. [/s]

Rilwayne001:


I dare you to go back to that thread and point out the lies in that post https://www.nairaland.com/2501334/questions-muslims-been-avoiding/2#36682803. You can only fool your other foolish children of Yhwh as described in Jeremiah 4:22