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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:52pm On Aug 18, 2015
Chelseafan1:

I tire o, person wet suppose dey close to Yaya....see as e give am gap.
Baba Terry had to come out to cover.

That space occupied by Yaya and Aguero should have a Defensive midfielder there. Thank God say no be only me see am.

Thats why its said positioning and intelligence is one of the greatest attribute a footballer can have.

A busquet and Makelele would position themselves properly, Silva would either turn around to look for another option or intercepted and after the game we would be asking what Busquets/Makelele contribute to the game because you dont see them diving into sliding tackles or built like Olofinjana or Samba

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 2:52pm On Aug 18, 2015
Chelseafan1:

I also prefer Mikel to Ramires, if Matic can push forward and attack, Mikel is not totally bad defensively too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 2:54pm On Aug 18, 2015
Chelseafan1:

I also prefer Mikel to Ramires, if Matic can push forward and attack, Mikel is not totally bad defensively too
who among we chelsea fans will forget how Mikel hold the mildfield with lampard in munich(2012) I know mou will sell ramires.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
just look at the way fabregas positioned himself...... Witsel will cost us. Up to 28-30m pounds.

Is Fabregas the Defensive midfielder? Isnt that the job of Matic?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:01pm On Aug 18, 2015
donjazet:
I have read some posts here and can't believe what I am seeing:: Any chelsea fan who is saying Mourinhno should be sacked is a BIG FOOL or clearly a plastic.. In football there are good times and bad times and being called classy is ur reaction in those bad times. Mourinho is an experienced manager and the current most successful in england and becos of a slump in form, ur calling himand our players who just won us d league 'names'. Sooo not cool. In football, trust is the key. Mourinho has his plans, I demand we trust him completely because there is no coach who is currently the master of the game. We have d best and here u are calling for his head. Shame!!!
u just typed exactly wat i wanted to say after i read the last page. This is just the beginning of the season and u plastic fans are already making noise. Surely we nid addition in the defense nd midfield; efforts are on-going and d window is stil open. Mou is a professional and one of d best around. He knws the problems and wl address it.
Just one draw and a loss, u guys are already shouting. This is d time to knw true fans.
You guys shld relax, we cn stil win the treble.
If you guys behave like this, what do u expect man U and arsenal fans to do?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:01pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


Is Fabregas the Defensive midfielder? Isnt that the job of Matic?
I don't what to argue with you,Its obivious you argue like soemone who just argue for the sake of it. Are you not the one comapring Terry with boateng.......Abeg seerve go ashawo thread jare.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:03pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
I don't what to argue with you,Its obivious you argue like soemone who just argue for the sake of it. Are you not the one comapring Terry with boateng.......Abeg seerve go ashawo thread jare.

I am not comparing terry to Boateng, I am saying Boateng is wayy better than Terry and its not even close. With evidence. We have seen how Chelsea tends to perform better when Terry is away from the lineup. Even on Sunday count the number of saves Bergovic had to make when Terry was off the field vs when he was on the field

If you are sure of your points you make a case for it. Isnt that the purpose of education?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:16pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


I am not comparing terry to Boateng, I am saying Boateng is wayy better than Terry and its not even close. With evidence. We have seen how Chelsea tends to perform better when Terry is away from the lineup. Even on Sunday count the number of saves Bergovic had to make when Terry was off the field vs when he was on the field......on fabragas issue if the likes of jamie carragaher and alan shearer can question fabregas positional awareness then you should know fabregas performance against City was poor!!!

If you are sure of your points you make a case for it. Isnt that the purpose of education?
Where do u get your stats from that we gain more point without Terry I think it is you who should do your research very well.......Terry is a Leader,Captain,Legend and Hero. Age is not on his side(34 yrs) but when he was still in his prime he is better than the whole of Bayern munich defence.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:20pm On Aug 18, 2015
Chelseafan1:

He messed up by not scoring that goal, I remembered banging my legs several times almost cursing him for that miss...Immediately, I tot about what Messi or Ronaldo could av done with that kinda chance.
he has scored more difficult ones, like d one against man utd last season. Messi and ronaldo have also missed goals u wl wish hazard was there to score the goal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:20pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


Is Fabregas the Defensive midfielder? Isnt that the job of Matic?
if the likes of jamie carragher and alan shearer can criticize fabregas performance,it is very obvious is sense of positioning was poor.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:22pm On Aug 18, 2015
Only Foolish and Plastic fans will call for Mourinho to be sack.........Even if we don't win the league this season mourinho should stay!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:24pm On Aug 18, 2015
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:27pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
Where do u get your stats from that we gain more point without Terry I think it is you who should do your research very well.......Terry is a Leader,Captain,Legend and Hero. Age is not on his side(34 yrs) but when he was still in his prime he is better than the whole of Bayern munich defence.

The biggest games in Chelsea history till date

1. The CL final Chelsea won without Terry

2. The Europa cup final vs Benfica Chelsea won without Terry

3. The 2-2 draw at Nou Camp. Terry got a red card in the first half letting his team down and with a man disadvantage they still qualified

These are Chelsea greatest games in the past decade and all have one common factor Terry missing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:30pm On Aug 18, 2015
Meanwhile Ramires was seen this morning still celebrating

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:31pm On Aug 18, 2015
airmark:


So a manager can't make mistakes in his decisions? Because we are nt managers we can't analyse the simplest of football flaws? Even mou has accepted he needs to buy players as against his initial stand. If you are poor in soccer analysis then don't criticise those who have the brain.
mou never said he does nt nid to buy players. Even at d beginning of d transfer window, he said he nids a midfielder, attacker and defender to gv competition to the existing players.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:31pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


The biggest games in Chelsea history till date

1. The CL final Chelsea won without Terry

2. The Europa cup final vs Benfica Chelsea won without Terry

3. The 2-2 draw at Nou Camp. Terry got a red card in the first half letting his team down and with a man disadvantage they still qualified

These are Chelsea greatest games in the past decade and all have one common factor Terry missing
Nigerians and the way they Think........ Was he benched by the coach in those match you listed or he missed through suspension and injuries? Your Logic is laughable....... You don't have to like Terry,But he is better than Boateng anyday anytime.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 3:33pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


That space occupied by Yaya and Aguero should have a Defensive midfielder there. Thank God say no be only me see am.

Thats why its said positioning and intelligence is one of the greatest attribute a footballer can have.

A busquet and Makelele would position themselves properly, Silva would either turn around to look for another option or intercepted and after the game we would be asking what Busquets/Makelele contribute to the game because you dont see them diving into sliding tackles or built like Olofinjana or Samba

this simple fact is one thing most nigerians don't understand about football.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 3:34pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:
Meanwhile Ramires was seen this morning still celebrating



Buahahahahahahahahahahaha grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:34pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
Nigerians and the way they Think........ Was he benched by the coach in those match you listed or he missed through suspension and injuries? Your Logic is laughable....... You don't have to like Terry,But he is better than Boateng anyday anytime.

If the greatest achievements/moments of the club was when Terry was absent then it shows how dispensable he is

Its logical to posit that if he had played maybe he would have cost the team

While Boateng has been the rock for his team whether its in the CL finals or the World cup final. The stages where Terry embarrased himself or didnt even get to

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:38pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


If the greatest achievements/moments of the club was when Terry was absent then it shows how dispensable he is

Its logical to posit that if he had played maybe he would have cost the team

While Boateng has been the rock for his team whether its in the CL finals or the World cup final. The stages where Terry embarrased himself or didnt even get to
so what about last year wen he start all our match in premiership and we win the league and those facup with capital one cup nko Bros abeg give respect to terry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:42pm On Aug 18, 2015
coogar:


this simple fact is one thing most nigerians don't understand about football.

Barcelona and Guardiola did a lot of things to football and its showing people how simple football is.

Xavi was questioned as a midfielder because he was small and couldnt dribble effusively until it was shown that you only need a brain to play midfield. Pass, move look for openings

Its still believed even on this thread till now that a DM needs to be aggresive, ferocious and intimidating while Barca gave us Busquets who doesnt do any of this and has bossed multiple games

It was believed you need a giant in attack to be succesful or a striker with physical Presence. Guardiola gave us a front line of Messi -5ft7, Villa 5ft 8 and Pedro 5ft7 and won the CL and league

He even popularised the false 9 tactic. I remember then one of my friend was saying how can yu lineup without a striker a 9

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 3:45pm On Aug 18, 2015
Greatihex:
he has scored more difficult ones, like d one against man utd last season. Messi and ronaldo have also missed goals u wl wish hazard was there to score the goal.
True talk, that's football for u.... u need to see the way haters and some few Chelsea fans were shouting his name like he's God who can't make mistakes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


Barcelona and Guardiola did a lot of things to football and its showing people how simple football is.

Xavi was questioned as a midfielder because he was small and couldnt dribble effusively until it was shown that you only need a brain to play midfield. Pass, move look for openings

Its still believed even on this thread till now that a DM needs to be aggresive, ferocious and intimidating while Barca gave us Busquets who doesnt do any of this and has bossed multiple games

It was believed you need a giant in attack to be succesful or a striker with physical Presence. Guardiola gave us a front line of Messi -5ft7, Villa 5ft 8 and Pedro 5ft7 and won the CL and league

He even popularised the false 9 tactic. I remember then one of my friend was saying how can yu lineup without a striker a 9

and this is the reason guardiola is up there as the best tactical manager in the world.
some of the experiments he did at barca & he's doing currently in germany are just out of this world. he has bent football tactics to the last inch of threshold. everything is possible with him. you can only beat guardiola with the negative side of the game, you cannot beat him if every one decides to go on attack. he's a purist!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
so what about last year wen he start all our match in premiership and we win the league and those facup with capital one cup nko Bros abeg give respect to terry

Local league is what we should celebrate?

SHould I show you how Terry disgraced himself vs PSG that led to the ouster of the team?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:51pm On Aug 18, 2015
raumdeuter:


Local league is what we should celebrate?

SHould I show you how Terry disgraced himself vs PSG that led to the ouster of the team?



Epl is now local league.......even my 8yrs cousin will knw terry made a mistake in dat match against psg........Or shld I show you how leo messi disgrace boateng for field?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 3:57pm On Aug 18, 2015
Boateng was a flop@Mancity.......Messi disgrace him.........Hahahahaha Boateng better than Terry joke of the day
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On Aug 18, 2015
coogar:


and this is the reason guardiola is up there as the best tactical manager in the world.
some of the experiments he did at barca & he's doing currently in germany are just out of this world. he has bent football tactics to the last inch of threshold. everything is possible with him. you can only beat guardiola with the negative side of the game, you cannot beat him if every one decides to go on attack. he's a purist!

Yeah but like with most geniuses he atimes over reach his limit and tries crazy things which backfires spectacularly

There are others that people dont even talk about like getting Dani Alvez a right back to make 20 assists in a hybrid RB/RW role

Trying a 5ft 7 Phillip Lahm as Defensive midfielder

The latest one is trying David Alaba a left back as a LCB who would now move into midfield and back into defence in one move
David Alaba is the man of the goal. Plays as the left central defender and stays back at all time, prior to the 4th goal, Alaba then acts as a Box to Box Central Defender (B2BCD). He moves forward gradually

ROma coach Rudi Garcia was quotd that all game they couldnt understand the role of Alaba and were powerless against him

Vs Man Utd in Munich without a Defensive midfielder, Pep deployed Both Lahm and Alaba as Full backs and as DM

Lahm, however, started the match in the centre of midfield, with no-one occupying the right-back slot – Jerome Boateng was shuttling out there when needed, but he was basically a right-sided centre-back. It seemed Guardiola wanted Lahm to cover both the right-back zone, and the centre of midfield.

Alaba mirrors Lahm

Furthermore, David Alaba was fielded in the same role from the other flank. They took up extremely narrow positions, often either side of Toni Kroos, before reluctantly shuttling back into the full-back zones when Manchester United counter-attacked
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http://www.zonalmarking.net/2014/04/10/bayern-munich-3-1-manchester-united-guardiola-uses-his-full-backs-in-midfield-but-bayern-better-with-a-standard-system/
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:09pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
Epl is now local league.......even my 8yrs cousin will knw terry made a mistake in dat match against psg........Or shld I show you how leo messi disgrace boateng for field?

If EPL not local league? Is it an international league?

Messi is the best footballer in the whole world and probably of all time, I dont see a big deal in Messi disgracing a defender.

How about I show you where Ordinary ANdre Ayew disgraced Terry for field?

Can you recognize the guy on the floor wey open nyansh like ashy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 4:11pm On Aug 18, 2015
Hypocrites, calling darmian unproven, below average, "who is darmian" and yet sign baba rahman.... rubbish


Bloody hypocrites, questioned the price for shaw and yet bid 30M for stones



Pathetic

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:11pm On Aug 18, 2015
Kolade354:
Boateng was a flop@Mancity.......Messi disgrace him.........Hahahahaha Boateng better than Terry joke of the day

Terry was a flop everywhere disgraced by ordinary Andre Ayew

Chelsea won the CL when Terrry was missing, Chelsea won EUropa when Terry was missing, The only CL final Terry played he threw away the trophy, vs PSG Terry cost Chelsea the game

All my examples in the CL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:15pm On Aug 18, 2015
Greatihex:
mou never said he does nt nid to buy players. Even at d beginning of d transfer window, he said he nids a midfielder, attacker and defender to gv competition to the existing players.

Sir, don't argue what you don't know. Mou said Chelsea's transfer window was close last two weeks.
In his words:
“I repeat the same thing every season. For me, the transfer window is over. I don’t like the transfer window when competition starts,” he said.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Pataki: 4:16pm On Aug 18, 2015
Alagolo is what raumdeuter is brandishing here? cheesy

Anyways na shekpe thread. grin

airmark come and chop oh!

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