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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:34pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


Dumb rockets are no big deal. So stop boasting
Its a BVR missile, not a dumb rocket mate!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


Sahara desert ends around the capital of Sudan Khartoum, it does not reach Dafur. Did SANDF enter Sudan's capital city? Your army will perish there or surrender when they see Sudanese Toyota boys grin grin
It reaches the northern part of Darfur as well, where we were based!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


The proposed new American camp will still not work in winter snow lands, USA will still have second camp for white snow terrains. So, not one universal camp.

Your SANDF deep brown camo will fail in Sahara type of desert, any light yellow sand terrain will expose your entire army like goods displayed for sale on a trade fair open pavilion , the enemy will see your brownie uniform with their eyes 3 km away, they will be kïlling yöu like Baygon killing mosquitoes at random
.

The so called military analyst conveniently forgot that SA is semi arid.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:56pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


Show me proof that F-7 crashed in the last two years. Also show proof that we have only 3 pilots.

No proof = Trolling

The analyst once again conveniently forgot that each year a F-7 crashes in nigeria
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-25316/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:02pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


So what? It's SANDF


Away from home. Unlike Nigerian military who have both their weapons and base forcefully taken away from them and worst of all at home.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:04pm On Aug 19, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:29pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:
PIRATES ATTACK NIGERIAN MILITARY BASE AND KILL SOLDIERS AND LOOT WEAPONS. THE WEAKEST NIGERIAN MILITARY IS AT IT AGAIN.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40228:suspected-pirates-attack-military-base-in-nigerias-southern-delta-kill-five-&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233



http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKL5N10J0AI20150808?irpc=932
this is an old story.if you had bothered to read the follow up news,you would have learnt that the pirates were later arrested less than 24 hours after the incidence
ps: it wasnt a military base,'modern' media is so ignorant that they mistake a patrol team dock for a military base.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:43pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
this is an old story.if you had bothered to read the follow up news,you would have learnt that the pirates were later arrested less than 24 hours after the incidence
ps: it wasnt a military base,'modern' media is so ignorant that they mistake a patrol team dock for a military base.


Since when is 20150808 an old story?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:54pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


Marlin missile project delay is due to DENEL being broke, it has announced a begging appeal for a foreign cash sponsorship partner.

Marlin is fully funded by DOD and not Denel. However, Denel is only looking for a partner for future project of Marlin and that will only be after they have completed SAAF supply. For now the project is fully funded by Department of Defence (Armscor)
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:56pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:
BOKO HARAM ATTACK DEATH TOLL RISES ABOVE 160.
http://news.yahoo.com/150-drowned-shot-fleeing-boko-haram-ambush-ne-141658417.html
The DHQ has come out to categorically dismiss the spurious claims made by the french media{government} AFP,According to trustworthy DHQ sources; their wasnt any attack in yobe state that reportedly claimed 160 lives,it was merely a figment of AFP's twisted imagination and continous media blackmail!.
Why is it that no dead bodies were found?,why is it that there wasnt any casuality registered or admitted in any hospital in yobe state from such a "grand attack"?.
Nigerian ChannelsTV and Defence Radio have also come out to denounce the shameful lies being peddled by AFP,RadioFrance and other foreign media platforms which are obviously intended to truncate the nigerian army's growing media popularity and distract the armed forces.
Be well informed,and stop exposing your ignorance.
https://www.facebook.com/DefenceInfoNG?ref=hl
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:00pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
The DHQ has come out to categorically dismiss the spurious claims made by the french media{government} AFP,According to trustworthy DHQ sources; their wasnt any attack in yobe state that reportedly claimed 160 lives,it was merely a figment of AFP's twisted imagination and continous media blackmail!.
Why is it that no dead bodies were found?,why is it that there wasnt any casuality registered or admitted in any hospital in yobe state from such a "grand attack"?.
Nigerian ChannelsTV and Defence Radio has also come out to denounce the shameful lies being peddled by AFP,RadioFrance and other foreign media platforms which are obviously intended to truncate the nigerian army's growing media popularity and distract the armed forces.
Be well informed,and stop exposing your ignorance.

Don't forget that the world is used to your denialism agenda. That's why America is telling you never to dismiss until you have conducted investigations.



MILITARY OF FACEBOOK. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE PROPAGATORS OF PROPAGANDA.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:07pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:



Since when is 20150808 an old story?
what is today's date?,is today 8th of august?,you posted the article of an event that happened a week ago: the pirates have been arrested,the illegal arms in their possession have been recovered and their speedboats siezed.
CASE CLOSED.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:15pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
what is today's date?,is today 8th of august?,you posted the article of an event that happened a week ago: the pirates have been arrested,the illegal arms in their possession have been recovered and their speedboats siezed.
CASE CLOSED.

Let us wait until 08/09/2015 and we shall consider it old.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:24pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:

Don't forget that the world is used to your denialism agenda. That's why America is telling you never to dismiss until you have conducted investigations.
Proper invesigations have been conducted,the DHQ always conducts investigations.No dead bodies were found,did the ground swallow up the dead?.
This is so much like the Baga incident where AI claimed to have used a magic satellite to ascertain that over 5000 people were slaughtered; after DHQ conducted thorough aerial surveillance of the area,they found that the figure was maliciously inflated from 150 to 5000.when we liberated Baga,there was no evidence that 5000 people were killed as bandied by AI.Did 5000 people mysteriously rapture into the sky?.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:34pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
Proper invesigations have been conducted,the DHQ always conducts investigations.No dead bodies were found,did the ground swallow up the dead?.
This is so much like the Baga incident where AI claimed to have used a magic satellite to ascertain that over 5000 people were slaughtered; after DHQ conducted thorough aerial surveillance of the area,they found that the figure was maliciously inflated from 150 to 5000.when we liberated Baga,there was no evidence that 5000 people were killed as bandied by AI.Did 5000 people mysteriously rapture into the sky?.

In Baga 2000 people were reportedly killed as confirmed by the US sources and not 5000 as you claim.

Bwahahaha… investigations so fast, that means they have never thoroughly investigated.

That's a pure lie. A propaganda at its best. The community members confirmed on international news on TV that they have buried over 160 bodies some bodies were never even recovered on the water.


http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/hundreds-drown-fleeing-boko-haram-1.1902235
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:57pm On Aug 19, 2015
shizzy7:
Amateur what!! they came in 4 speed boats, there was an exchange of gunfire so anybody was bound to die... They usually have insiders or sponsors. It takes a lot of guts to go burst an oil pipeline especially close to a JTF base.. Our military is still powerful..


Terrorists or militants are one and the same thing. The only few of them overpowered your military and managed to gain access in military base after all your troops fled and they helped themselves with your weapons. Oh!! your military is a joke. I have never imagine that in this modern times any military can be defeated at its base where they have support of every powerful weapon but I have seen that happening in Nigeria where military was defeated to a point that they even lost their base to enemies.

Your military can never be placed as the third powerful military in Africa with such an embarrassing record. What exactly do you want people to think of Africa? That their third most powerful military was beaten by just bandits to the point of losing their military base and not once, twice, thrice or fourth time but in fact several countless times. Please hold your horses and place your military to a position it deserves, but please not the third place because that will ridicule Africa.
Many poor militaries in Africa will never allow that to happen and they will rather hold their ground to protect their national pride. They will never allow insurgents take their military base away from their home soil. Spare us your shame because you will only put unnecessary honours on the shoulders of the pirates and BH for having on many times defeated the third most powerful military in Africa and take over their base. I mean Africa and the world can never offer you that position because of the disgrace and dishonour you will attract on that position. You will rather make the ranking of Africa's militaries weak, especially as compared to Asia who will laugh by saying that in Africa you will only have to count One and Two and after that the list is complete since no:3 is just a walk over having had the record of losing their national pride on their home soil in many times on their home soul. The military which allowed civilians to fight on their behalf, and as such violating Geneva conventions rules. Please, save us a shame......
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:00pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:

In Baga 2000 people were reportedly killed as confirmed by the US sources and not 5000 as you claim.
Bwahahaha… investigations so fast, that means they have never thoroughly investigated.
That's a pure lie. A propaganda at its best. The community members confirmed on international news on TV that they have buried over 160 bodies some bodies were never even recovered on the water.
http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/hundreds-drown-fleeing-boko-haram-1.1902235
How convenient that all the 160 people were buried within the few hours it took the NA to arrive the scene.Do you know how long it would takes for 160 bodies to be identified,gathered,transported and buried?,it would surely take days!!
But apparently,according to "anonymous local sources",160 people magicked themselves into thin air and no injured person bothered to visit the hospital.how intriguing..wouldnt you agree?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:06pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:



Terrorists or militants are one and the sane thing. The only few of them overpowered your military and managed to gain access in military base after all your troops fled and they helped themselves with your weapons. Oh!! your military is a joke. I have never imagine that in this modern times any military can be defeated at its base where they have support of every powerful weapon but I have seen that happening in Nigeria where military was defeated to a point that they even lost their base to enemies.

Your military can never be placed as the third powerful military in Africa with such an embarrassing record. What exactly do you want people to think of Africa? That their third most powerful military was beaten by just bandits to the point of losing their military base and not once, twice, thrice or fourth time but in fact several countless times. Please hold your horses and place your military to a position it deserves, but please not the third place because that will ridicule Africa.
Many poor militaries in Africa will never allow that to happen and they will rather hold their ground to protect their national pride. They will never allow insurgents take their military base away from their home soil. Spare us your shame because you will only put unnecessary honours on the shoulders of the pirates and BH for having on many times defeated the third most powerful military in Africa and take over their base. I mean Africa and the world can never offer you that position because of the disgrace and dishonour you will attract on that position. You will rather make the ranking of Africa's militaries weak, especially as compared to Asia who will laugh by saying that in Africa you will only have to count One and Two and after that the list is complete since no:3 is just a walk over having had the record of losing their national pride on their home soul in many times on their home soul. The military which allowed civilians to fight on their behalf, and as such violating Geneva conventions rules. Please, save us a shame.
MILITANTs and TERRORIST are NOT one of the same kind in Nigeria.. Militants e.g MEND are our friends, they are well known Nigerians,They are involved In our political process they have a definite purpose which is to protect the Niger Delta(Land,people) from exploitation, pollution, Oppression Their major opponents are Shell,Exxon Mobil,Chevron and Nigeria(if the F.G tries to protect the oil coys.).Their major form of fighting is kidnapping Foreigners/wealthy Nigerians for a Ransom in which thy are later released.. We also have the OPC.. They are incomparable to BH who are just simply Demonic.. If our military is as bad as you portray them to be BH will not be limited to 2states in one zone out of 6zones..The last thing I will be doing is typing on NL and the MOST you can do is to read,imagine and type about it.. ...You're entitled to your opinion about our military and am also entitled to mine which is our military is good and powerful.. I am not asking you to admit Neither am I asking you to contradict, neither am I asking for a reason to back up your claim..
Finish and Klaar..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:08pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
How convenient that all the 160 people were buried within the few hours it took the NA to arrive the scene.Do you know how long it would takes for 160 bodies to be identified,gathered,transported and buried?,it would surely take days!!
But apparently,according to "anonymous local sources",160 people magicked themselves into thin air and no injured person bothered to visit the hospital.how intriguing..wouldnt you agree?


You see your military is misinformed. This incident happened long before your military could be reached because of poor communication network on the area. Your military arrived late when some villagers were already killed and some drowned while trying to escape insurgents. Your military is trying to cover their foul play as always knowing well that village is still primitive and away from the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:22pm On Aug 19, 2015
shizzy7:
MILITANTs and TERRORIST are NOT one of the same kind in Nigeria.. Militants e.g MEND are our friends, they are well known Nigerians,They are involved In our political process they have a definite purpose which is to protect the Niger Delta(Land,people) from exploitation, pollution, Oppression Their major opponents are Shell,Exxon Mobil,Chevron and Nigeria(if the F.G tries to protect the oil coys.).Their major form of fighting is kidnapping Foreigners/wealthy Nigerians for a Ransom in which thy are later released.. We also have the OPC.. They are incomparable to BH who are just simply Demonic.. If our military is as bad as you portray them to be BH will not be limited to 2states in one zone out of 6zones..The last thing I will be doing is typing on NL and the MOST you can do is to read,imagine and type about it.. ...You're entitled to your opinion about our military and am also entitled to mine which is our military is good and powerful.. I am not asking you to admit Neither am I asking you to contradict, neither am I asking for a reason to back up your claim..
Finish and Klaar..


So, do you agree your military is a joke?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:26pm On Aug 19, 2015
agaugust:


South African army elite troops had their entire armoury looted by local rebels in Burundi, they carried away your MRAPs, mortar artillery, rifles, shells, heavy machine guns, grenade launchers....LOL....your army was being stripped of heavy weapons and you could do nothing grin grin

Sources have confirmed that millions of rands worth of vehicles, guns, ammunition and bombs, and supplies worth over R27-million have vanished from the South African army base in Burundi over the last four years.

The missing vehicles are believed to include several Casspirs; a Mazda ambulance; Isuzu bakkies; one firefighting truck; Landrover Defenders; trucks; a water tanker; a Yamaha motorcycle; forklift trucks; Toyota Condor vans; several cars; a tractor; and a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter.

The Star has also established that among the weapons missing are 40 mortar bombs; 54 R-4 rifles; four R-5 rifles; a sniper rifle; two 12-gauge shotguns; eight machineguns; eight pistols; and 27 grenade launchers.

A 15 KVA generator is also understood to be missing.

While army authorities have previously blamed poor accounting practices for the losses, an investigation by The Star has found that on one occasion at least 50 missing SANDF mortar bombs - out of 80 bombs stolen using an army-owned Land-Rover - were found in a FNL Phalipe-Hutu rebel group camp in Kiriri, Burundi.

The FNL has been blamed for a series of mortar attacks on the Burundian capital, Bujumbura, in which at least 300 people are known to have died.

The Star has also learnt that a case of ammunition - part of a total 1.5 million SANDF-owned rounds that went missing in Burundi - was found in the possession of Burundian government forces in 2004.

As yet, the SANDF has failed to reveal how many millions of rands worth of weapons, vehicles and supplies it has lost to theft or mismanagement. Disturbingly, it seems the SANDF has no idea how many weapons are in its possession.

Now, following a scathing Auditor-General's report into the Department of Defence's "inadequate" and "deficient" accounting practices, the Democratic Alliance was due to ask the Defence Ministry in parliament today to address claims that about 70 army vehicles, over 110 weapons and items of equipment, and millions of rands worth of supplies have disappeared from the South African base in Burundi.


http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/burundi-bungle-leaves-sandf-chiefs-red-faced-1.300893

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The US army lost $400 million of weapons in Yemen and that's nothing compared to R20 million.




http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-military-lost-400-million-worth-of-weapons-in-yemen/201901/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:27pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:


In Baga 2000 people were reportedly killed as confirmed by the US sources and not 5000 as you claim.

Bwahahaha… investigations so fast, that means they have never thoroughly investigated.

That's a pure lie. A propaganda at its best. The community members confirmed on international news on TV that they have buried over 160 bodies some bodies were never even recovered on the water.


http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/hundreds-drown-fleeing-boko-haram-1.1902235


so I opened your link they put up and they put up a 2011 picture and a copied and pasted article.. You couldn't even disseminate what was on it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:34pm On Aug 19, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:34pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
How convenient that all the 160 people were buried within the few hours it took the NA to arrive the scene.Do you know how long it would takes for 160 bodies to be identified,gathered,transported and buried?,it would surely take days!!
But apparently,according to "anonymous local sources",160 people magicked themselves into thin air and no injured person bothered to visit the hospital.how intriguing..wouldnt you agree?
Evarn,, WHO/WHAT is AFP all the links about the incident online keeps saying the same name and "TOLD AFP" and the same story..None of our news channels is talking about it ... But have you seen the Video of how NAF killed BH members during the Air raid in Borno?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:35pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:

You see your military is misinformed. This incident happened long before your military could be reached because of poor communication network on the area. Your military arrived late when some villagers were already killed and some drowned while trying to escape insurgents. Your military is trying to cover their foul play as always knowing well that village is still primitive and away from the world.
How can a military maintaining constant aerial surveillance over an area be "misinformed" about the area?.
hehehehe....All these negative media stunts because we refused to allow foreign boots to make camp over our lake chad oil deposit in the name of fighting terrorism.
Nigeria really needs to revisit our foreign policy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:38pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:



So, do you agree your military is a joke?
I see that Post was too coherent for you to understand
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:41pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
How can a military maintaining constant aerial surveillance over an area be "misinformed" about the area?.
hehehehe....All these negative media stunts because we refused to allow foreign boots to make camp over our lake chad oil deposit in the name of fighting terrorism.
Nigeria really needs to revisit our foreign policy.
And because Buhari said No to Gay... I wish they did not agree to The arms sale.. I hope we end up not buying it,,I pray they change their mind...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:48pm On Aug 19, 2015
shizzy7:
I see that Post was too incoherent for you to understand

Nope it was not. It is just that you were avoiding important aspects and thus were running helter skelter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:50pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
How can a military maintaining constant aerial surveillance over an area be "misinformed" about the area?.
hehehehe....All these negative media stunts because we refused to allow foreign boots to make camp over our lake chad oil deposit in the name of fighting terrorism.
Nigeria really needs to revisit our foreign policy.

Unfortunately your military arrived late when the party was over and now they are trying to downplay the damage as usual. 500 in numbers only mean 50 in Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 8:53pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:


Nope it was not. It is just that you were avoiding important aspects and thus were running helter skelter.
Apparently, I didn't read all of your post. I just cleared out your First sentence of MILITANTs being the same as TERRORIST in Nigeria and after that I repeated the same thing I have been telling you..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:54pm On Aug 19, 2015
shizzy7:
Evarn,, WHO/WHAT is AFP all the links about the incident online keeps saying the same name and "TOLD AFP" and the same story..None of our news channels is talking about it ... But have you seen the Video of how NAF killed BH members during the Air raid in Borno?
AFP is France's propaganda news outlet.
Nigeria is the greatest obstacle to french foreign policy in Africa; hence,the unwarranted antagonism.
We are surrounded by french colonized countries,with France maintaining a heavy military presences in Niger,Chad,and Cameroon....thousands of french troops along with rafale fighter jets and sophisticated MALE UAVs are stationed in military bases in the countries surrounding Nigeria.They want to seize control of the Nigerian lake chad oil field for Chad,but all their efforts are being frustrated.
Yes,I watched the video of the BH bunker bombardment; It was quite expertly carried out and recorded.
Though it seems that no ATGM or guided munition was used,only cannons.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:01pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
AFP is France's propaganda news outlet.
Nigeria is the greatest obstacle to french foreign policy in Africa; hence,the unwarranted antagonism.
We are surrounded by french colonized countries,with France maintaining a heavy military presences in Niger,Chad,and Cameroon....thousands of french troops along with rafale fighter jets and sophisticated MALE UAVs are stationed in military bases in the countries surrounding Nigeria.They want to seize control of the Nigerian lake chad oil field for Chad,but all their efforts are being frustrated.
Yes,I watched the video of the BH bunker bombardment; It was quite expertly carried out and recorded.
Though it seems that no ATGM or guided munition was used,only cannons.


Nigeria must not blame their woes unto others but themselves. Their poor handling of BH insurgency and incompetent military is a factor.


OH, sorry Nigeria has no PGMS.

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