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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:00pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
Dr. Ameyo Adadevoh is the greatest African heroine of the 21th century,I hope PMB gives her a post-humus national honour on independence day.
RIP to Dr Adadevoh.
May God bless her.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:08pm On Aug 19, 2015
mzilakazi:


SA designs the best MRAPS in the world even superpowers buy from SA.
dondi you no know yourself
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 11:11pm On Aug 19, 2015
EVarn:
Dr. Ameyo Adadevoh is the greatest African heroine of the 21th century,I hope PMB gives her a post-humus national honour on independence day.
RIP to Dr Adadevoh.
Jonathan already did that BUT I think Buhari would also do something substantial for her,,,

I just kept imagining the worst that could have happened,, if she had allowed PATRICK SAWYER to escape But that Man is also wicked..Rip to her and the others..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:17pm On Aug 19, 2015
iblawi:
The 1s we bought from you are not up to standard as well that makes us equal. grin grin angry cheesy cheesy

You are only taking chances.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Aug 19, 2015
iblawi:


Bro. To tell how stupid they think they believe everything they produce is always the best in the world.

Forgetting that they are only showing there stupidity to the world.
Not every thing. But our ATMGs, WVR AAMs, Guided Bombs, SAMs, HMDs ,EW systems, IFVs , MRAPs,105mm Howitzers ,155m Howitzers ,155mm Self-Propelled Howitzers, AHs , HMIs , periscopes , MGLs, Turrets , Drones(Class dependent), 127mm MLRSs, to name a few are some of the best systems in their class in the world.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:57pm On Aug 19, 2015
iblawi:

Bro. To tell how stupid they think they believe everything they produce is always the best in the world.

Forgetting that they are only showing there stupidity to the world.
I tell you my brother.They are all as dumb as doorknobs.
I remember watching the SA ambassador to naija as he was being grilled on ChannelsTV by I think Chamberlain Usor,the man was only grunting and rubbing his over-sized belly dumbly while being treated to verbal assaults from the presenter,he couldnt counter any of the questions,word games and innuedos thrown at him and his country.I could only pity the f00lish man for being a dumb southie.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:00am On Aug 20, 2015
iblawi:
May God bless her.
Amen.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:02am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


[s]Nigerian navy has about 7 maritime helicopters that are fully active, see photo below. Our AW 109 are naval versions for maritime operations. We have 3 anti-submarine helicopters in storage that we do not need to use, the Lynx. All 10 helicopters belong to Nigerian navy, the South African navy has no pilots and no single aircraft, you totally depend on your air force for maritime air operations. Your over-hyped navy is NOT complete, NOT balanced.

Most countries in the world have no single role attack helicopter, they use Hinds which are multi-role attack+transport helicopters, makes more sense to have a multi-role platform before you add a single role later if you wish. The world has over 3,000 Mi-24 Hinds flying around, but only 11 Rooivalks, so which one is in more demand due to usefulness?

Ukraine used old hinds in Congo, they have no Hind E which is the latest version. NAF has Hind E, leave the old topic dude.

Alpha jet is manufacturer configured to carry air to air missiles and PGM, it's a matter of whether you bought the missiles or not. Google Alpha jet manufacturer specs and educate yourself.

I won't repeat photos of what has been over-repeated on this forum, it kills peoples interest when you over-repeat stuff, so go google NAF hand held Ichoku drones photos, and Cobra, BTR, etc are all amphibious Nigerian army armoured vehicles, I won't repeat that old story, I has been fully discussed and proved on this forum. Try avoid dragging this forum backwards, people are complaining about your brain that works in reverse gear R mode[/s].

Ag

The same crap over and over

So what if the Airforce runs the Lynx? We have them and they are operational - unlike yours which are all non-operational.

Hind is cheap trash - that is why there are lots of them. And the fact remains that Nigeria has ZERO attack helicopters.

Nope, as has been proven ages ago on this thread they used moodern Hind.

Alpha jet cannot deploy PGM's nor can it engage in missile armed air-to air combat. End of story

What drones? We have seen no such info of the drones that you claim.

You see! This is why you refuse to list your "400 modern units"... they comprise of the Cobra that can be penetrated by a round from an R4 and a BTR of which you have around 50.... the rest are ancient platforms.

I will demand you to explain your statements if they are not true or false. Do not make statements that you are not prepared to defend.

Now, you said a lack of amphibious vehicles makes the SANDF obsolete. State how and why, as well as list an occasion where amphibious vehicals crossing a river have played a decisive role in combat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:02am On Aug 20, 2015
shizzy7:
Jonathan already did that BUT I think Buhari would also do something substantial for her,,,

I just kept imagining the worst that could have happened,, if she had allowed PATRICK SAWYER to escape But that Man is also wicked..Rip to her and the others..
ah..I didnt know GEJ already gave her a national award.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:03am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


No proof = Trolling

Augustus confirms he is a troll

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:03am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Illiterate, your source is dated "Written by defenceWeb, Thursday, 03 May 2012"

No F-7 jet has ever crashed again after the 3, now we have 12 and they fly thousands of hours in Boko war with NO SINGLE accident.

#Death By Own Source

Citation needed

No proof = trolling
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:05am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF poor kit, no knee pads, no elbow pads, no gloves....poor Southie kits

hahahaha

compared to your soldiers they are living the life of luxury
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:05am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Yes, you are test firing a dumb rocket with zero guidance, Sudan can do that too.

But Nigeria cannot grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:05am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Marlin missile project delay is due to DENEL being broke, it has announced a begging appeal for a foreign cash sponsorship partner.

Says who?

No proof = trolling

grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:06am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


[s]All your guided bombs will be sh.ot down by Nigerian army air defences, your bombs are a threat to Lesotho and Swaziland only.[/s]

Ask Iraq how they did against them
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:07am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, show me SANDF brown uniform in a yellow desert like Sahara or Sahel

I just did
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:08am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Your Oryx belong to your air force, the fact remains that your navy has NO SINGLE AIR CRAFT and NO AIR ARM and NO PILOTS grin grin

I won't repeat photo of Nigerian Lynx ASW helicopter again, been posted too many times, i am beginning a new attitude of not responding to request to repeat old stuff all over this forum, unless it makes sense.

Lol - still basing your argument on technicalities

Your lynx are non operational
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:09am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Sudan builds guided missiles

Nigeria cant grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:10am On Aug 20, 2015
agaugust:


Dumb rockets are no big deal. So stop boasting

Why cant you build them?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:11am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


NO, You cannot. You cannot afford them, that's why you don't have them. You are broke!


Denel builds on order you illiterate, with the order comes importation of parts, parts which cost money.

You don't have the money, you can't afford the mokopa.

Denel = SANDF

If Denel has it

SANDF has access to it

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:11am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


No you don't....... You retaard!

So how do you explain Juliet Troop?

You retaard
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:13am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


-We don't claim to have 4GEN Jets, you do, yet your illiterate leaders in the military and politics simply forgot to purchase BVR missiles for your 4 Gen Jets.

- you have no Marlin missile, your Marlin only exists on paper.

- You do not have more than 9 Gripen Pilots for your Gripen fleet. Of that number, none of your Gripen Pilots are combat qualified.


Patrick, your military is abysmally pathetic and utterly useless!

- You dont have BVR either. FACT

- We are firing a paper missile next month? WOW!

- Who says we only have 9 pilots? Who says they are not combat qualified?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:14am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


Local customer does not equal the SAAF you relentless fool!

According to Defenceweb and South African law regarding drones - it does
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:15am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


Dictatorzar, your overall military knowledge is pretty minute!

So let me see if i can dumb down to your level.


We don't claim to own BVR capabilities, however the PL-9C missiles on our multi-role F-7 jets out-ranges the AAM currently deployed by SAAF Gripens,our missiles also have a 90% Kill probability rate.


The SAAF does not field even "Half a BVR missile", none exists. Your Marlin does not exist in reality. It would take the SAAF at least 15- 25 years to field any BVR missile.


Nigeria actually has 12. 3.5GEN multirole F-7 jets in service, with no record of pilot shortage. On the other-hand, SAAF pilot shortage and grounding of Gripen jets is well documented. Your Air force is hopeless.


Still better than your air force which has 0 combat qualified pilots.

Our domestically manufactured AAM is in Russia, China, Turkey, the U.S, Germany, France, the U.K ........... And every other country that manufactures them!

1. A-darter is a full generation ahead of your missile. Can do off-bore targeting, is largely immune to countermeasures and can pull 100G turns. It is utterly superior.

2. No, you have 9-10 since 2 or 3 of your F-7s have crashed

Last i checked 14 4th Gen Gripen is better than 10 3.5 gen F7's

No Gripen have been grounded and we have more Gripen pilots (in 2013) than you have F7s in total

And yea, actually, there are multiple articles outlining the MASSIVE problem that the NAAF has with keeping its Jets in the air.


3. There is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest that pur Grip pilots are not combat qualified. If you wish to make that assertion then you must provide proof - or else you are simply trolling

Yet again we see henry120 resorting to his time honored tactics - ignore all the evidence that doesnt suit him, and repeate the same thing over and over in the hopes that he will convince himself that its true.

Truly pathetic

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 5:29am On Aug 20, 2015
So a South African defence publisher/writer states that these initial Seeker 400's wont be going to the SAAF first (from what he's heard), but to another branch of the SANDF. But SAAF aquisition of Seeker 400's still going ahead. Going to the Army first i guess? Will have to wait a bit and see.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:37am On Aug 20, 2015

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:00am On Aug 20, 2015
YOUNG EAGLES EXERCISE 2015

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:05am On Aug 20, 2015
South Africa's Shoprite Holdings, Africa's biggest retailer by sales, will open nearly twice as many stores on the rest of the continent this year as in 2014, its chief executive, Whitey Basson, said on Tuesday.

Nigeria will get 14 new stores in the next 20 months and Shoprite is building a distribution centre in the country, aiming to move goods faster as imports into Nigeria can be delayed in ports for up to three months or so, Basson said.

Angola is the only other market large enough to justify a distribution centre in the next five years, he said.

The supermarket operator is banking on rapid growth in markets such as Nigeria and Angola where it aims to change the shopping habits of Africa's rising middle class.

The retailer, which also operates the Checkers grocery chain and OK Furniture, reported a 10.8 per cent rise in full-year earnings yesterday, buoyed by sales growth of 13.5 per cent in stores outside its home market.

It plans to add another 35 stores this year to the 189 it has in the rest of Africa, hoping to improve on the 16 percent contribution that Africa ex-South Africa makes to its profits. Last year it opened 20 stores outside South Africa.

“It usually takes three to five years for countries to change from pavement shopping to using supermarkets,” Reuters quoted Basson, to have said in a presentation of the company's results.

Hampered in South Africa by power outages, rising electricity costs and highly indebted consumers, Shoprite increased sales in its home market by stealing market share in its food business from rivals.

The retailer, which began as a chain of eight stores in South Africa in 1979 and has had Basson at the helm throughout, now spans 15 countries across the continent, 13 of which posted stronger economic growth than South Africa last year.

Shoprite said diluted headline earnings per share (EPS) totaled 772.9 cents in the year ended June, in line with the 773 cents estimate by Thomson Reuters StarMine SmartEstimates. Headline EPS is the most widely watched profit gauge in South Africa and strips out certain one-off items.

Shoprite shares were up 1.2 per cent by 1245 GMT. The shares nearly doubled in price over the last five years as the company expanded but are down almost 5 percent since the start of this year on sluggish consumer demand in South Africa. The retailer said total sales rose 11.2 per cent to R113.7 billion ($8.80 billion) for the year.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/shoprite-to-open-14-new-stores-in-nigeria/217827/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:10am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


Dictatorzar, your overall military knowledge is pretty minute!

So let me see if i can dumb down to your level.


We don't claim to own BVR capabilities, however the PL-9C missiles on our multi-role F-7 jets out-ranges the AAM currently deployed by SAAF Gripens,our missiles also have a 90% Kill probability rate.


The SAAF does not field even "Half a BVR missile", none exists. Your Marlin does not exist in reality. It would take the SAAF at least 15- 25 years to field any BVR missile.


Nigeria actually has 12. 3.5GEN multirole F-7 jets in service, with no record of pilot shortage. On the other-hand, SAAF pilot shortage and grounding of Gripen jets is well documented. Your Air force is hopeless.


Still better than your air force which has 0 combat qualified pilots.

Our domestically manufactured AAM is in Russia, China, Turkey, the U.S, Germany, France, the U.K ........... And every other country that manufactures them!

"Minute" according to you just to suit your ego. You know nothing yourself and it has been proven here many times Mr photo shop.

Your PL-9 is not even in the league of our IRST's or A-Datar AAM's. The PL-9 cannot even be fired of bore so how the hell will it have a 90% kill ratio when a A-Datar or IRST can be fired to intercept the PL-9. Your PL-9 cannot even engage any missiles.

The marlin bvr currently in development will use sub components from both Umkhonto and A-Datar so it will take less then 8 years for its completion. SAAB has offered the meteor to SAAF as a interim when it becomes available.

The F-7 is not a 3.5gen multirole its not even a multirole fighter it is a poor nation airforce interceptor fact. Its systems and airframe is based on 1970 aircraft and by no means even considered a threat to any 4.5gen fighter like the Gripens. Your aircrafts systems are obsolete and that's a fact you won't even detect a Gripen.

You only have 3 F-7 pilots and that's a fact, or can you prove it. We have posted here numerous times that we have over 14 pilots and its more then enough to handle all your obsolete F-7's. Your NA is so hopeless it needed Chad and SA mercenaries to turn the tide against boko 15 year old desert goat herders.

You have no domestically manufactured AAM in Russia or any other country so stop talking shiit here the hole world knows this. The US/Nato won't sell you shiiit because of your poor human rights record, your Buhari with all his beggars couldn't even persuade the US Senate to over turn its LEAHY LAW. So you don't have no modern western systems unless you get second hand-hand me downs or you go get inferior Pak/Chinese systems. You have a dumb bomb nation airforce.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:01am On Aug 20, 2015
ssaengine:
So a South African defence publisher/writer states that these initial Seeker 400's wont be going to the SAAF first (from what he's heard), but to another branch of the SANDF. But SAAF aquisition of Seeker 400's still going ahead. Going to the Army first i guess? Will have to wait a bit and see.

You don't haveany Seeker 400s in any branch of SANDF service.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:12am On Aug 20, 2015
Henry120:


You don't haveany Seeker 400s in any branch of SANDF service.


I think there is something wrong with you. Seeker 400 is currently produced for SAAF.

However, We have seeker 400 on lease from Denel Dynamics.

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