TheDauraMallam:



The Queen is a hierarchial thing. We still have the Obas here in Nigeria.

So your analogy is faulty.

What you're supposed to ask yourself is this: this is 2015, and why are Nigerians still stuck in medieval fetishism and willful ignorance?

Why?

The average Nigerian was a traditionalist in the 1800s, and the foreigners came here with a more packaged idea of the afterlife and we swallowed their hook, like and sinker.

Now the destitue country is filled with 98% of religious fanatics.


Why can't an average black man think for himself?

I agree with the fact that the foreigners' coming to Africa may have held us back; they introduced several beliefs we all worship today, when they themselves don't leverage them as much as we carry am for head. We could have been fine with what we believed in before their intervention.

However, my concern is that something is always constant - change. Even the foreigners know when to change to other alternatives after considering the pros and cons of the current state. In our traditional case, there is no such word. Things still have to be done like it was in the days of Orunmila, Opobo, Obatala, Sango, Oduduwa etc - that's what the traditionalists believe, and if we all grew up thinking like that without the foreigners coming in the first place, we would have ended up as savages like our forefathers were to them.
I'd admit many of us gained wisdom from what we have learnt so far from foreigners and some of us now even know certain things more than them.

It's just an issue knowing some of us simply would not change anything about what we believe in because it worked for our ancestors hundreds of years ago.

people in white?

SmartMugu:

I agree with the fact that the foreigners' coming to Africa may have held us back; they introduced several beliefs we all worship today, when they themselves don't leverage them as much as we carry am for head. We could have been fine with what we believed in before their intervention.

However, my concern is that something is always constant - change. Even the foreigners know when to change to other alternatives after considering the pros and cons of the current state. In our traditional case, there is no such word. Things still have to be done like it was in the days of Orunmila, Opobo, Obatala, Sango, Oduduwa etc - that's what the traditionalists believe, and if we all grew up thinking like that without the foreigners coming in the first place, we would have ended up as savages like our forefathers were to them.
I'd admit many of us gained wisdom from what we have learnt so far from foreigners and some of us now even know certain things more than them.

It's just an issue knowing some of us simply would not change anything about what we believe in because it worked for our ancestors hundreds of years ago.

Thank you for your most responsible analysis.

Let's go back to history a bit (even though it had been disallowed as a subject by the Ministry of Education under Jonathan's regime...)

Whites value their tradition, there is a clause.

Worldwide, mature religionists and non religionists enjoy heritage. They enjoy festivals. I am not a moslem and I enjoy Ileya celebrations like crazy, even though I don't believe in what they are celebrating.

Same goes to alot of other religious festivities. Non believers and all.

But there is a clause. We enjoy these things because they are heritage, and not because they do us any good.

IsiCaterpillar:
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Regenerate?, rooster?, rover?, rubbish?..Rooney?.. Which one?

Isese lagba. Believe in what you believe in, and follow it with faith.

NIGERIA....

White garment things.

Today all over the yoruba land we celebrate isese day, all the deities are worship ogun,ifa,esu,egun,sango,oya,obatala and many more this happen every 20th august

LadyBoss1:
pwts cultural about this
Pls elaborate
So dats what u go tell GOD on judgement day abi , its culture ..

What is wrong about appreciating ones culture ?
You don't have to live under the perpetual fear of
"judgement day" , live your life!

neocortex:


What is wrong about appreciating ones culture ?
You don't have to live under the perpetual fear of
"judgement day" , live your life!

Sorry i fear GOd , u wont u derstand

Those are ogboni brotherhood having their annual ISESE celebration.

They are everywhere in Lagos and they are harmless as long as u avoid them during their street procession.

Its their religion and believe and they are harmless

I just asked a brother of mine that does business at computer village, he said every 20th of August, this usually take place and people don't open shops because it goes with human rituals.

Youbas and their diabolic and fettish tradition....mtchewww

...and na them go go white garment church,redeem church,mountain on fire,deeper life,winners pass any other tribe#wolves in sheep's clothing.

whatever they do,they'll never intimidate us,ummunna.

Anyi ga na eje eje na abata abata makana oje mba enwe iro ka anyi bu....Igbo kwenu!!!!!!

From the pictures above,it seems this people are in Ogboni confraternity ..the women among them put on shaki their traditional dress

auntysimbiat:
A lot of shops in the Ikeja area of Lagos were locked today and many streets deserted as people in white were seen walking around the area. The reader who witnessed it and sent in the photos said it's 'Oro'. Don't know what that means.

See photo below :



http://nairanaijanews..com/2015/08/see-photos-people-wearing-white-take.html

i was beside your large back,u never knew...
Hope u heard how they maltreated another dude in akinremi.

And what are the Lagos state police doing about it.
Because I believe when a person or group of people's activity bring fear to it's citizens, that is when reasonable people should call the police to question their activities.

If it was a harmless one, they took it upon themselves to assure the citizens to continue their activities for the day. Not luck up shops.

Nigerians should learn how to make use of the police. Not only when neighbours are fighting.

disumusa:
you don die b/4. Becauas your tribe lack culture,norms,value.

Do you remember what happened to the early twins in Nigeria which was norm, culture and possibly value then. Some one has to rise up and stop some things. Just saying

If I hear say, I lock shop !!

Ogboni fraternity. High level cultists no be the moin moin cultism wey students dey do for higher institutions.

Jenny1010:
Backward people !

I disagree darling...
There is nothing backward about extolling culture...especially in the face of "foreign stuff" chasing our norms, beliefs and practices to oblivion

It makes me wanna throw things
So I find this to be totally cool...if it has to do with their Ifa
Cheers

disumusa:
you don die b/4. Becauas your tribe lack culture,norms,value.

The height of backwardness!
Performing sensless rituals and fetish stuff are part of your culture.
No wonder why there's still brown roofs in Ibadan.

On the fast lane to hell in the name of culture.......tribe being fetish since 1720

Cutehector:
abeg make I hear word... Wat crappy culture is dat...

Pappyjim:
See gobe! Pls theres a 419 claiming to be a custom officer by the name: Balogun David, he claim to be in charge of auction cars at the SEME BORDER, he even says the warehouse is at 17 izua warehouse off badagry expressway, seme border. He gave his account details:access bank plc, Account numba:0689957015. Pls be warned!!!

I hope say you no pay sha this wan na old story

AwesomelyMade:
Fetish practices everywhere.

Fetish right.. Just like reading the brainwash in Bible is Fetish right ?

TheDauraMallam:




Thank you for your most responsible analysis.

Let's go back to history a bit (even though it had been disallowed as a subject by the Ministry of Education under Jonathan's regime...)

Whites value their tradition, there is a clause.

Worldwide, mature religionists and non religionists enjoy heritage. They enjoy festivals. I am not a moslem and I enjoy Ileya celebrations like crazy, even though I don't believe in what they are celebrating.

Same goes to alot of other religious festivities. Non believers and all.

But there is a clause. We enjoy these things because they are heritage, and not because they do us any good.

Tradition will always remain.. No matter what. It has existed for years and will continue to do so. Though a lot have changed like you said. So as the traditional religion is also updating itself but there are some things that can't be removed. Oro is one.. Mind you Oro is just punishment given to those who refuse to obey the order. No one has ever been killed due to Oro... (Oro gbe o)

disumusa:
you don die b/4. Becauas your tribe lack culture,norms,value.

That's crappy culture...


Any culture that limit freedom is trash!

Cutehector:
Lock my shop say Lucifer dey pass abi na wetin

I tire ooh

Nah for those wey get fear pass liver. Nor be to discharge them with hot water?

Jenny1010:
Backward people !

How ? They shouldn't practice their culture again Cuz we deh 21century? U are d backward person here

Africa!

But exactly how did Africa survive before the word of God and Allah were introduced?
Honestly how...those before then..were they doomed? Cant be.. we descended from them..right LOL ...

Anyway..is this really culture or is it tradition? Coz people throwing the word "culture" around so loosely

Me I think this is tradition. It is rooted and will continue to be passed down to future generations...

They re doing Isese day( Traditional worshipers day) it happens in all part of Lagos.