seagulsntrawler:


You need to understand that all religions have weaknesses that are easily exploited by the ruling elites (call them the illuminati if you like). The US and EU are taking advantage of the Shia-Sunni division to destabilize the ME and with active connivance of Israel( cos having weak, fragmented nation states, all around cements her position as an hegemon).
An ex- Israeli soldier(Gilad Azmon) ask refugees to go to synagogues: www.nairaland.com/2577064/refugees-should-seek-refuge-synagogues

I am glad that you are admitting the 'Shia-Sunni division' but should they not rather solve their issues instead of playing the blame game? Instead of them to solve their problems they will rather curse and blame the West and Israel.

vedaxcool:


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In my entire post not a single mention of US occured, the fact you are responding to issues not raised only goes to show the liar you are incapable of making coherent point. My mention of turkey only exposes the fact that you and your Belgium mp are unstable individuals blowing the refugees crisis beyond the realm of reasons.

Like i said before,
Your post has all the trappings of being an odoriferous foolery, inspiring only deviant and misguided of men!

Coz it is stewpid to say the Syrians started a war because they wanted to pretend to be refugees.
It is even more stewpid to say after becoming refugees they decided to take the most dangerous path to entering Europe, thereby lossing their loved ones ib horrendous situations.
Even more daft is to pretend that refugees who barely number 250000 would pose a threa100s of millions of Europeans.

But offcourse if you are a liar for paul, a liar for trinity, a liar for christianity the above scenarios are not only plausible but a living reality. How stewpid to crackpot bible junkies get?

Stop prevaricating and address the OP.

Gombs:


Ola, see what your reasoning is causing you.

The guy just took you to the cleaners.

If you were thinking straight you would be asking why the refugees are migrating to Europe instead of Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia.

parisbookaddict:


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The fall of Europe has entered full throttle, they reJect God thE father and his son, they now have to contend with Islamic allah.

Majority of Europe will be dominated by muslims 50years from now, I hope it never happens but the current trend shows it will, what a pity.

Has anyone of the European parliamentarians asked themselves why the muslims are not going to other Persian, middle eastern, north African and gulf Arab states, eg Saudi Arabic where their prophet is buried, Qatar, Iran, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan, Yemen, UAE, turkey which is just by Syria and Iraq, and why have these Islamic countries not made effort to help their fellow muslims. They know what they are doing.
Empiree, YazAch, rilwanye001, mustymatic EzioAuditore abduljabbar4 tartar9 profdombledor 9jaforlife Abuamam tola9ja ThelightOfIslam tbaba1234 Sweetnecta
vedaxcool etc u can try and answer that. Why are these immigrants not going to their brothers in other Islamic countries.

The refugee crisis is a terrible thing, but muslims brought It on themselves, the violence and unforgiving nature of their religion ensures such conflicts will keep happening. The innocent blood they and their father shed is coming back to hunt them, isaiah even prophesied this conflicts and genesis said that the children of ishmael will be in conflict with themselves/brothers as well as roam like wild donkeys. Emphasis on like, it didn't say they "are" wild donkeys unlike the quran that calls Jews pigs and monkeys and Christians cattle.

Do u know that the quran says that mecca will be destroyed when Christ returns. Of course it will( empiree correct me if I am wrong about this) because they are drunk with the blood of the Christian martyrs as prophesied in revelations. They apotheosize the kabba and adore it, its idolatry and an abomination to the Lord.
It will be destroyed and yet muslims still think a mass murderer was a prophet. Walid shoebat was studying the bible and the quran to see how to defend his muslim believes and then discovered he was on the wrong side. I pray a muslim reading this will see how problematic and vile true Islam is.

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tola9ja:


[size=18pt]if you mention me again asarailu will blow final whistle for you[/size]

With all the curses you Muslim curse Israelites and Christians see the picture above to see who is blessed.

seagulsntrawler:


Kindly provide us a link to the story.

Thanks.

I hope this link will suffice.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044584/Pray-Allah-ll-throw-overboard-Muslims-ordered-Christians-punctured-dinghy-African-migrants-sank-Mediterranean.html

OLAADEGBU:


If you were thinking straight you would be asking why the refugees are migrating to Europe instead of Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia.

I already told you.. Majorly because of the harsh nature of the Sharia laws. They love democracy, they love the free world.

That's common sense, not rocket science as you're thinking it is.

OLAADEGBU:


I must have touched a nerve somewhere. How has your post addressed the OP?

It has bro..... You're too drown in hate to notice it.

OLAADEGBU:


Don't be a Pecksniffian. Listen to how our Lord Jesus was not hesitant to call a spade a spade and not an agricultural implement:

"O generation of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Matthew 12:34).

Using scriptures to justify your outlandish claims, gossip and hate ladened writings.

Can you show me where Jesus was intolerant of other religions... Samrarians, Greeks, Romans.... Gentiles in general.

.. Take your time, I can wait for the scriptures.

Oduduwaboy:

So its all about the U.S & Western Europe now? How about Russia the chief destabilizer? Why are the muslims in Iran, Iraq & Afghanistan not heading towards Russia and China?

Which of both countries practice democracy?

It's hard to discuss issues like this without being sentimental but I'll try.

The migration issue has polarized Europe.Germany is prepared to welcome as much as 800k Syrians.Poland,Hungary,Belgium & a few others consider it a risk due to the fear of radicalisation.

Belgium is in fact a small country as well as much of Western Europe.It is about the size of Borno state.A mass influx of people is bound to have a big effect.Germany are a European superpower with economic means to support them.Besides they feel that as Big Brother of Europe,they hold a moral obligation.More importantly though less apparent,they are trying to pay penance for the evils of 1945 which incidentally marks 70 years since WW2.

As to why other Arab nations have not accomodated the Syrians,I shall try to explain in my next post.

OLAADEGBU:


If you were thinking straight you would be asking why the refugees are migrating to Europe instead of Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia.

Ruminate on these words... Perhaps a miracle will happen to your reasoning ability.

Coz it is stewpid to say the Syrians started a war because they wanted to pretend to be refugees.

It is even more stewpid to say after becoming refugees they decided to take the most dangerous path to entering Europe, thereby lossing their loved ones ib horrendous situations.

Even more daft is to pretend that refugees who barely number 250000 would pose a threa100s of millions of Europeans.

I am not trying to paint the Arab world in bad light,but the fact remains that they are not in solidarity.

Countries with means such as UAE,Saudi Arabia etc. do not grant visas to Syrians because of the fear of radicalization,hence you never hear of terrorist cells there.They would rather have the virus without than within.The only Arab countries that grant free access are also war ravaged e.g Yemen,Libya etc

Some migrant Syrians have blasted their fellow Arabs who have made it hard for them to gain access to their countries.The so called 'infidels' are doing the humanitarian work which their muslim neighbors are not wont to do.You only need to look at the outpouring of praise from the Syrians on Merkel to know that they are truly grateful.The Germans have done a huge lot.

Some other Europeans e.g UK prefer to address the root cause of the issue i.e the war in Syria by sending monetary support to Syria.Their reluctance may stem from their history with extremism e.g 7/7 underground bombings

More,later...

Sheikwonder:
It's hard to discuss issues like this without being sentimental but I'll try.

The migration issue has polarized Europe.Germany is prepared to welcome as much as 800k Syrians.Poland,Hungary,Belgium & a few others consider it a risk due to the fear of radicalisation.

Belgium is in fact a small country as well as much of Western Europe.It is about the size of Borno state.A mass influx of people is bound to have a big effect.Germany are a European superpower with economic means to support them.Besides they feel that as Big Brother of Europe,they hold a moral obligation.More importantly though less apparent,they are trying to pay penance for the evils of 1945 which incidentally marks 70 years since WW2.

As to why other Arab nations have not accomodated the Syrians,I shall try to explain in my next post.

Ola, come and take notes o... Come with biro and note pad.

Sheikwonder:
I am not trying to paint the Arab world in bad light,but the fact remains that they are not in solidarity.

[s]Countries with means such as UAE,Saudi Arabia etc. do not grant visas to Syrians because of the fear of radicalization,hence you never hear of terrorist cells there.[/s] They would rather have the virus without than within.The only Arab countries that grant free access are also war ravaged e.g Yemen,Libya etc

Some migrant Syrians have blasted their fellow Arabs who have made it hard for them to gain access to their countries.The so called 'infidels' are doing the humanitarian work which their muslim neighbors are not wont to do.You only need to look at the outpouring of praise from the Syrians on Merkel to know that they are truly grateful.The Germans have done a huge lot.

Some other Europeans e.g UK prefer to address the root cause of the issue i.e the war in Syria by sending monetary support to Syria.Their reluctance may stem from their history with extremism e.g 7/7 underground bombings
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More,later...

In fact Ola... Come with 80leaves long note book... You've got alot of tutorials here.

Thanks bro, for enlightening Ola,but Officially, Syrians can apply for a tourist visa or work permit in order to enter a Gulf state.

However, the process is costly, and there is a widespread perception that many Gulf states have unwritten restrictions in place that make it hard for Syrians to be granted a visa in practice. (hundreds of thousands cannot afford this, nor have time for the tedious processes, hence, they look to Europe... Where democracy to an extent, binds them to help)

This comes as part of wider obstacles facing Syrians, who are required to obtain rarely granted visas to enter almost all Arab countries.

Without a visa, Syrians are not currently allowed to enter Arab countries except for Algeria, Mauritania, Sudan and Yemen.

Yemen is in shreds... Syria is better that Sudan et al. This is outside considering the proximity sef.

Let's do some lateral reasoning.

The Syrian migration stems from war in a divided Syria.The war exists between the Syrian government led by Bashir Al-Assad & the Islamic state.

The Syrian government announced not long ago that they had not enough troops to fight and would cede control of some important cities so as to protect the capital as well as a few other neighboring towns.

This was a submission that meant that residents of those lost territories where on their own and that has triggered the migration you now see.

There are however more intricacies at play here.Remember last year,President Assad was accused by the US of using chemical weapons on his people a contravention of the rules of engagement.Obama declared that it would lead to forceful intervention.However the US backpedalled-a political blunder,and this was seen as weakness on the part of the US...

The main aim of the US in Syria was not to tackle ISIS,but to remove Assad.Russia on the other hand are supporting the Syrian government by providing the needed ammunition.However this does not stem from a real need to stymie the insurgency,it is merely an affront on the US,afterall according to the old apothegm,"the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

So because US & Russia view the Syrian crises as a way to renew their rivalry,the war has been allowed to fester due to counterproductive policies.Meanwhile Europe has been idle-"letting the big boys battle it out" until now,because of the new surge in Syrian migration.

I hope this summarizes how I see the Syrian crises.I am open to rebuttals as long as they are in line with the topic of discussion and as long as it is not an attack on my person...

OLAADEGBU:


Stop prevaricating and address the OP.

But offcourse if you are a liar for paul, a liar for trinity, a liar for christianity the above scenarios are not only plausible but a living reality. How stewpid do crackpot bible junkies get?

Gombs:


I already told you.. Majorly because of the harsh nature of the Sharia laws. They love democracy, they love the free world.

That's common sense, not rocket science as you're thinking it is.

You should rather use your 'common sense' to investigate why they migrate to the 'enemy countries' instead of speculating why they do so.

Gombs:


It has bro..... You're too drown in hate to notice it.

Touchy.

Gombs:



Using scriptures to justify your outlandish claims, gossip and hate ladened writings.

If I supply the Scriptures of Christ will that suffice since it's not coming from Chris?

Gombs:


Can you show me where Jesus was intolerant of other religions... Samrarians, Greeks, Romans.... Gentiles in general.

.. Take your time, I can wait for the scriptures.

If the Words of Christ means anything to you then consider these eternal Words of His when He was responding to a Samaritan woman who believed in another religion:

"You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22).

I'm sure if you were there at the time Jesus uttered this statement you would have said that Jesus is intolerant of other people's religion (Samaritans).

Our Lord Jesus seemed to be harsh when addressing this Gentile woman who came seeking help for her daughter. What would have been your thoughts at this time knowing that these kind of words from the mouth of Christ are strange to you?

"I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24).

What Jesus said to this Caananite woman was even harsher when He compared her to dogs:

"It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs" (Matthew 15:26).

Here again you would have accused Jesus of intolerance, bigotry and racism and that He was not sensitive to the Gentile woman's feelings.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).

When Jesus asserted that He is the Way to God, the Truth of God and the Life in God your likes will accuse Him of being intolerant of other ways and this is the main reason why true Christians are being persecuted for being 'unloving' and 'unsympathetic' to people's feelings when they say Jesus is the only way. Jesus says: 'No one comes to the Father but through Me'. And I reiterate the same and say every other proposal is one of darkness. You can call me an intolerant hater if you like they did the same to Christ.

Gombs:


Ruminate on these words... Perhaps a miracle will happen to your reasoning ability.

Try meditating on the Word of God instead of quoting and 'ruminating' on the words of an Islamic Jihadist. With the abundance of heart the mouth speaks.

"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks" (Luke 6:45).

Gombs:



Ola, come and take notes o... Come with biro and note pad.

You should rather take note of the infallible Word of God instead of the fallible words of men.

Sheikwonder:


The main aim of the US in Syria was not to tackle ISIS,but to remove Assad.Russia on the other hand are supporting the Syrian government by providing the needed ammunition.However this does not stem from a real need to stymie the insurgency,it is merely an affront on the US,afterall according to the old apothegm,"the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

So because US & Russia view the Syrian crises as a way to renew their rivalry,the war has been allowed to fester due to counterproductive policies.Meanwhile Europe has been idle-"letting the big boys battle it out" until now,because of the new surge in Syrian migration.

I hope this summarizes how I see the Syrian crises.I am open to rebuttals as long as they are in line with the topic of discussion and as long as it is not an attack on my person...

Thanks for addressing the issue at hand unlike those who have turned the thread into insults and personal attacks on persons they seem to have an axe to grind.

OLAADEGBU:


If I supply the Scriptures of Christ will that suffice since it's not coming from Chris?



If the Words of Christ means anything to you then consider these eternal Words of His when He was responding to a Samaritan woman who believed in another religion:

"You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22).

I'm sure if you were there at the time Jesus uttered this statement you would have said that Jesus is intolerant of other people's religion (Samaritans).

Our Lord Jesus seemed to be harsh when addressing this Gentile woman who came seeking help for her daughter. What would have been your thoughts at this time knowing that these kind of words from the mouth of Christ are strange to you?

"I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24).

What Jesus said to this Caananite woman was even harsher when He compared her to dogs:

"It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs" (Matthew 15:26).

Here again you would have accused Jesus of intolerance, bigotry and racism and that He was not sensitive to the Gentile woman's feelings.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).

When Jesus asserted that He is the Way to God, the Truth of God and the Life in God your likes will accuse Him of being intolerant of other ways and this is the main reason why true Christians are being persecuted for being 'unloving' and 'unsympathetic' to people's feelings when they say Jesus is the only way. Jesus says: 'No one comes to the Father but through Me'. And I reiterate the same and say every other proposal is one of darkness. You can call me an intolerant hater if you like they did the same to Christ.

Horse crap. I dare you to open a thread with this write you have, let me come whip you there.

Until then, I wouldn't want to derail the pounding you're getting here.

It seems OLADEEGBU is boasting of Israel as if it belongs to Christians
What will you want Jews to say?
Mr man you have no say there

tola9ja:


[size=18pt]if you mention me again asarailu will blow final whistle for you[/size]

My brother you got that idiot

yazach:


It seems OLADEEGBU is boasting of Israel as if it belongs to Christians
What will you want Jews to say?
Mr man you have no say there

Who do you support?

OLAADEGBU:


Who do you support?

You've succeeded in making it a moslem vs christian thing not minding the fact that Christians are suffering too. If you are fair minded and objective enough you will realise that these people never chose to be refugees in the first instance. The US and EU were responsible for all the problems in the ME today. Bashir al Assad was elected by people of Syria in a free election,who do hell is the US and EU to say he must be removed?

seagulsntrawler:


You've succeeded in making it a moslem vs christian thing not minding the fact that Christians are suffering too. If you are fair minded and objective enough you will realise that these people never chose to be refugees in the first instance. The US and EU were responsible for all the problems in the ME today. Bashir al Assad was elected by people of Syria in a free election,who do hell is the US and EU to say he must be removed?

Agreed. But why do migrants choose to go to the US and the EU countries instead of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait or Iran?

OLAADEGBU:


Agreed. By why do migrants choose to go to the US and the EU countries instead of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait or Iran?

They are not migrants but refugees. They are fleeing the war/ terror created by the US, EU and actively supported by your beloved Israel.

seagulsntrawler:


They are not migrants but refugees. They are fleeing the war/ terror created by the US, EU and actively supported by your beloved Israel.

Why are the refugees not welcomed by the wealthy Islamic nations such as Saudi Arabia?