airmark:


If a player you called crap was our best player in 2011/2012 season , then what will you call all our other players that season? . May be crap has another definition. Your evaluation of players has been horrible to say the least

Mr man, just face front abeg. I discriminate who I discuss football with so make we just end this convo now. From all your yarnings this summer, I no get business discussing footie with you.

We who noticed how crap Ramires was in 2011/2012 were telling you live and direct in that time that he was a headless chicken who doesn't know how to pass the ball or play anything resembling midfield play. Instead of telling us we were correct, you are telling us another story that we were wrong in 2012 (but right in 2015?). A player never loses the ability to pass the ball, so if you have nothing better to say, please jump off my mentions. Ramires was nothing resembling a central midfielder in 2012, and he is nothing resembling a central midfielder now.

Need I remind you that RDM played Mikel-Lampard-Mata in midfield from the moment AVB was sacked in February till season end, with Meireles coming in for the UCL games. Ramires did not play a single minute in central midfield under RDM. The three performances that won him kudos came at left-wing (Napoli 2nd leg and Barca 1st leg) and right-back (Barca 2nd leg). He was crap as a central midfielder even in 2011/2012. Kindly don't quote me again abeg.

Ramires na crap

No be fight na, every man is entitled to his own opinion

Rambo is crap yet Madrid were keen on signing him last year, that goes to show how our views differs

AirborneLacer:
No be fight na, every man is entitled to his own opinion
Rambo is crap yet Madrid were keen on signing him last year, that goes to show how our views differs

Ibime was just using muscle unnecessarily. Imagine him asking which good passes ramires gave. I even deployed an highlight of great moments of his in 2013/2014, not even talking of his best season 2011/2012. If he had watched the video, he would have been ashamed of his wrong view on ramires past. Ramires has lost form no doubt, using the word crap for him when he was at peak, is very irresponsible to say. Please help me watch the video below and tell me if he does n't know how to pass the ball and if the word crap befits ramires at his peak?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZvPgyA8LU8

airmark:

Ibime was just using muscle unnecessarily. Imagine him asking which good passes ramires gave. I even deployed an highlight of great moments of his in 2013/2014, not even talking of his best season 2011/2012.

This is why I said I discriminate who I discuss footie with, just like Raumdeuter told you. We are discussing footie and you are pulling up Youtube highlights - that can make even Mobi Oparaku look like a star.

So based on your youtube highlights from 2013/2014, Ramires is a good central midfielder? The same 2013/14 that JM had to buy Matic in January plus deploy David Luiz in midfield to save us from Ramires' incompetence? So is your Youtube highlight supposed to convince us otherwise? You should have labelled the video: "Highlights of poor performances that made Ramires lose his place in midfield to Matic, Luiz and Fabregas".

Ibime:


This is why I said I discriminate who I discuss footie with, just like Raumdeuter told you. We are discussing footie and you are pulling up Youtube highlights - that can make even Mobi Oparaku look like a star.

So based on your youtube highlights from 2013/2014, Ramires is a good central midfielder? Shebi no be the same 2013/14 that JM had to buy Matic in January plus deploy David Luiz in midfield to save us from Ramires' incompetence? So is your Youtube highlight supposed to convince us otherwise? Even pulling up the youtube shows me you are unseasoned in footie analysis.

In 2011/2012 his co-Chelsea players picked him as the best player yet you know football more than them, right? Showing you youtube video is an evidence that your judgement on ramires that he could nt pass the ball was irresponsible and insincere. I just exposed your lie about him not being able to pass the ball.

Ibime:


he was a headless chicken who doesn't know how to pass the ball or play anything resembling midfield play

I don't know the kind of football you watch, to have said such reckless line. An headless chicken, yet he was honoured by Chelsea.

airmark:

Showing you youtube video is an evidence that your judgement on ramires that he could nt pass the ball was irresponsible and insincere. I just exposed your lie about him not able to pass the ball.

Please, I've been trying to tell you I do not discuss football with ignoramuses but you are not getting the message. That you are not very bright is not a secret.

If you believe Ramires is competent at passing the ball, please avoid me like a plague on this section. I do not discuss football with eediots.

Like I told you from the jump. . . I watch football, you watch highlights. Your highlight video of Ramires in 2013/2014 proves exactly that point because we all know he stunk to high heavens.

Ibime:



Please, I've been trying to tell you I do not discuss football with ignoramuses but you are not getting the message. That you are not very bright is not a secret.

If you believe Ramires is competent at passing the ball, please avoid me like a plague on this section. I do not discuss football with eediots.

Typical wack analyst. Why the abuse? In the absence of cogent points, they always turn abusive. Ramires was not a crap at his peak, I quoted you last time because you previously did to mine. It was airbornelacer that I quoted who asked why the fight? and you hurriedly quoted me, hence my reply. I don't throw jabs at Chelsea fans, your analyses have been bullsh1ts. your hatred for ramires is second to none, debunk the points raised rather than ducking and being abusive. You need to know the meaning of the word CRAP before using it recklessly.

Initial fears that Courtois could miss up-to a month after sustaining a knee injury in training #CFC goalkeeper is being assessed

airmark:


Typical wack analyst. Why the abuse? In the absence of cogent points, they always turn abusive. Ramires is not a crap, I quoted you last time because you previously did to mine. It was airbornelacer that I quoted who asked why the fight? and you hurriedly quote me, hence my reply. I don't throw jabs at Chelsea fans, your analyses have been bullsh1ts. your hatred for ramires is second to none, debunk the points raised rather than ducking and being abusive. You need to know the meaning of the word CRAP before using it recklessly.

There is a reason you rely on highlights to catch up on how Ramires performed during your absence. Instead of coming to ask ninjas how Ramires has been playing, you quickly ran to youtube, while jumping all over Ibime to argue when I was not discussing with you in the first place. Dude, Ramires has been the worst player at Chelsea for the last 3 years, and he was also crap in 2012. No vex me abeg. . . . Ramires has been pissing off a lot of ninjas here, the mention of his name alone can make me address you anyhow.

This is the reason you were shouting all summer for Stones whilst reasonable and intelligent people were asking for midfielder first to protect the defence. How could you know the problem at Chelsea when you have not been around to watch Chelsea, yet you dey come here to argue with ninjas out of arrogance.

I told you ninja. . . I watch my team, you rely on highlights. . . I'm not here to argue highlights with you. . . .so cool your dada.

Ibime:


There is a reason you rely on highlights to catch up on how Ramires performed during your absence. Instead of coming to ask ninjas how Ramires has been playing, you quickly ran to youtube, while jumping all over Ibime to argue when I was not discussing with you in the first place. Dude, Ramires has been the worst player at Chelsea for the last 3 years, and he was also crap in 2012. No vex me abeg.

This is the reason you were shouting all summer for Stones whilst reasonable and intelligent people were asking for midfielder first to protect the defence. How could you know the problem at Chelsea when you have not been around to watch Chelsea, yet you dey come here to argue with ninjas out of arrogance.

I told you ninja. . . I watch my team, you rely on highlights. . . I'm not here to argue highlights with you. . . .so cool your dada.

It's because of views like yours that made me to desert this section over the years. I watched football matches since way-back up till now not highlights. I only brought the videos when I remember those moments I had watched to nullify falsehoods you said right here. Ramires may not be the best in his position but saying he was crap in 2011/2012 shows your lack of football judgement.

airmark:


It's because of views like yours that made me to desert this section over the years. I watched football matches since way-back up till now not highlights. I only brought the videos when I remember those moments I had watched to nullify falsehoods you said right here. Ramires may not be the best in his position but saying he was crap in 2011/2012 shows your lack of football judgement.

Ninja you watched 2013/14 season through retrospective highlights. Don't argue with me something you did not watch. No self respecting Chelsea fan can post 2013/14 youtube highlights as evidence of Ramires' good performance unless he was on Robin Island during that season.

LOL Ibime and airmark

Both of you are saying the same thing although differently.

Ibime is trying to say that Ramires is crap as a central midfielder thats why RDM played him out of position in 2011/2012 while Airmark is making it clear that Ramires was in form in 2011/2012 thats why he was voted our player of the year.

Both of you are correct.

Ibime is correct in that Ramires hardly played in the three man midfield that RDM always deploy. He prefers playing Ramires in the wing. Incidentally, most of his best games come from that position.

Airmark is correct also in that Ramires won player of the year that year. No crap player wins that Award. His fellow players voted him and I'm sure they know what they were doing when they voted him.

Ramires won our player of the year that year playing NOT AS A CENTRAL MIDFIELDER but as a winger.

Calling one of the 2011/12 heroes a crap is jst been silly.Those guys gave it all to us, n made d season a memorable one 4 all. Nobody except sturridge was poor in dat team.Talking of long range passes frm deep midfield rami certainly is nt gud at dat.As small as rami was when he came, he do take on d gaint yaya of man city.the man is a fighter, a crusher, he does d dirty job 4 d team whenever he is called upon.It is because of his injury dat why rami is nt playing recently. With d recent display of cesc, am telling u rami will not only walk but stylishly walk into dat chelsea midfield.

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Ibime:


Ninja you watched 2013/14 season through retrospective highlights. Don't argue with me something you did not watch. No self respecting Chelsea fan can post 2013/14 youtube highlights as evidence of Ramires' good performance unless he was on Robin Island during that season.

That 2013/14 highlight was to counter that your gibberish that ramires could not play passes. In that video it showed series of intelligent passes played by him. Stop trying to defend what is not defendable. When you refer to something to be crap, it means extremely poor in quality. This is my bone of contention with you. I have criticized ramires here before, you should know I tell things as it is. I watched 90% of 2013/2014 Chelsea matches in my home. His form has been dwindling recently, he had kidney ailment coupled with injuries here and there. I used the video to expose your view that it was out of sheer hatred for him you called him crap even while performing.

timbros:
LOL Ibime and airmark

Both of you are saying the same thing although differently.

Ibime is trying to say that Ramires is crap as a central midfielder thats why RDM played him out of position in 2011/2012 while Airmark is making it clear that Ramires was in form in 2011/2012 thats why he was voted our player of the year.

Both of you are correct.

Ibime is correct in that Ramires hardly played in the three man midfield that RDM always deploy. He prefers playing Ramires in the wing. Incidentally, most of his best games come from that position.

Airmark is correct also in that Ramires won player of the year that year. No crap player wins that Award. His fellow players voted him and I'm sure they know what they were doing when they voted him.

Ramires won our player of the year that year playing NOT AS A CENTRAL MIDFIELDER but as a winger.

Correct. . . more or less. . . I will narrow it down further to state that Ramires won the award due to his performance as a winger and fullback in 3 games alone - the UCL games against Napoli 2nd leg and both legs vs Barca. . .

Certainly not for his league form where Mata had all the best stats in the league and Chelsea flopped woefully in the league, with most of the first team benched in the latter stages of the league as RDM prioritised UCL glory over the league.

Ibime:


Correct. . . more or less. . . I will narrow it down further to state that Ramires won the award due to his performance as a winger and fullback in 3 games alone - the UCL games against Napoli 2nd leg and both legs vs Barca. . .

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It's like calling other players idi,ots if based on 3 matches ramires was our player of the year. Someone that hit the ground running immediately the season started scoring goals too. I give up.

airmark:


It's like calling other players idi,ots if based on 3 matches ramires was our player of the year. Someone that hit the ground running immediately the season started scoring goals too. I give up.

Based on 4 matches alone, DD became a legend that season. The UCL was the yardstick that season not the league where we performed woefully. Example, someone just said Sturridge was the poor performer, yet he was joint top scorer in the league with Lampard. Lampard also scored 16 goals that season and Mata made 20 assists or so. Yet no one cares what you did in the league that year, Ramires goal vs Barca or DDs header in Bayern would far outweigh any performance over the season.

BTW, Mikel was the best player in the final. That does not stop me calling him crap.

For the last time, Ramires cannot pass the ball anywhere near the standard required from a central midfielder. Posting youtube videos from a season you missed and caught later on highlights only shows that we watch and understand football while you watch highlights

Ibime:


Based on 4 matches alone, DD became a legend that season. The UCL was the yardstick that season not the league where we performed woefully. Example, someone just said Sturridge was the poor performer, yet he was joint top scorer in the league with Lampard. Lampard also scored 16 goals that season and Mata made 20 assists or so. Yet no one cares what you did in the league that year, Ramires goal vs Barca or DDs header in Bayern would far outweigh any performance over the season.

Those players who voted him player of the season are not fools, bro. I doubt it if you remember that we won FA cup that year too and may be to you, he sat on the bench through-out let alone performing well and scoring in the competition. Well, I agree ramires is a crap. No need to argue further.

Timbros mind yourself o.

Airmark and Ibime, make una go take refreshments comeback.

This fight must happen PPV.

Nihilist:
Timbros mind yourself o.

Airmark and Ibime, make una go take refreshments comeback.

This fight must happen PPV.

LOL

Who is your money on?

I don already dey see some conciliatory messages

"Bro"

"I agree"

And some other explanations of the 2012 season in a non-threatening manner.

Soldier-ant go bite una two blockus if this fight no happen.

Nihilist:

I don already dey see some conciliatory messages

"Bro"

"I agree"

And some other explanations of the 2012 season in a non-threatening manner.

Soldier-ant go bite una two blockus if this fight no happen.

I done drop the ninja code to cool him head. I for show am wire today, but it's all good. Make he no raise my blood pressure with Ramires name again, that name fit make me address am anyhow

timbros:


LOL

Who is your money on?

I'm a fan of both.

It's like Ramires vs Mikel...You can't pick sides

Nihilist:

I don already dey see some conciliatory messages

"Bro"

"I agree"

And some other explanations of the 2012 season in a non-threatening manner.

Soldier-ant go bite una two blockus if this fight no happen.

You don dey mad. Ibime na my guy for rap section so we cant fight. How soldier ant go come when I no dey close to bushy area. You be babalawo? I reject such in Jesus name. I don agree with ibime, in fact the goals ramires scored enroute FA cup and UCL victories that year, na ibime score am with his pot belly.

Ibime:


I done drop the ninja code to cool him head. I for show am wire today, but it's all good. Make he no raise my blood pressure with Ramires name again, that name fit make me address am anyhow

Chei Airmark.

So you have been forgiven. You have freedom of the thread again, but you must not mention the name Ra******s otherwise...

Damn see virtual e-slavery.

Who will fight for Airmark's right to believe in Ram*****S? Shey Na like this we go dey dey?

airmark:


You don dey mad. Ibime na my guy for rap section so we cant fight. How soldier ant go come when I no dey close to bushy area. You be babalawo? I reject such in Jesus name. I don agree with ibime, in fact the goals ramires scored enroute FA cup and UCL victories that year, na ibime score am with his pot belly.

Friends don't set boundaries for each other.

How can my friend tell me that I cannot mention Rami****s name otherwise my fvckup will be treated?

That's not a friend...that is a master.

I like that you are loyal to your master "friend"

pelvicky:
Everton ready to stone chelsea

with their scrotum , shey ?

Nihilist:


Friends don't set boundaries for each other.

How can my friend tell me that I cannot mention Rami****s name otherwise my fvckup will be treated?

That's not a friend...that is a master.

I like that you are loyal to your master "friend"

What do you want me to say to someone who had forgotten we won FA cup same year we won UCL. The guy I quote below has said it all. So I am done.

Haywhymido:
Calling one of the 2011/12 heroes a crap is jst been silly.Those guys gave it all to us, n made d season a memorable one 4 all. Nobody except sturridge was poor in dat team.Talking of long range passes frm deep midfield rami certainly is nt gud at dat.As small as rami was when he came, he do take on d giant yaya of man city.the man is a fighter, a crusher, he does d dirty job 4 d team whenever he is called upon.It is because of his injury dat why rami is nt playing recently. With d recent display of cesc, am telling u rami will not only walk but stylishly walk into dat chelsea midfield.

My Ramirez , My Everything .. I can't wait for a better replacement real quick both Him and Mikel .. But hey he's done a GREAT JOB at Chelsea FC either you like him or not..

Nihilist:


I'm a fan of both.

It's like Ramires vs Mikel...You can't pick sides

Ramires>Mikel though for me.