dmandy:


Okay, you came back.

I love your tactis.

You can tell that I am not born again. I laugh you again.

My no3 is logically correct, but spiritually wrong. waoh... He that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself, but he that prophesies edifies the congregation cor 14:4

my no2 wrong, woah... You indeed have a relationship with the holy spirit who told you that without speaking in tongues miracles cannot be wrought. okay sir. There are different kinds of gifts. But they are all given to believers by the same Spirit. 5 There are different ways to serve. But they all come from the same Lord. 6 There are different ways the Spirit works. But the same God is working in all these ways and in all people. Cor 12:4. God gives the gifts, the gifts don't give God. smh

You don't know me, yet it is not necessary.

are you born again?

vooks:

Amen
God help you too. Or you are all too knowledgeable and you don't need help, right?

I need help bro.

I would have gone through scriptures with you but no time. I told you how this works in experience.
Summary:
There is a tongue as a sign to unbelievers that comes as God wills. E.g. Speaking in language to foreign locals. And you don't know what you said but they do. And also the one for edification of the body of Christ which comes with interpretation either from you or another person. This comes as God wills.

There is a prayer and worship one, you can start it as you will and can also be in others peoples languages or tongues of angels. This is spoken to God and not men. And received at the baptism.
This was the one Jesus said, in My Name they will do.

The Corinthian church messed everything up and mixed it. So Paul had to correct it.

vooks:

Show me the distinction from the scriptures or zip it.
Tongues MUST be interpreted or kept private.

Jeromejnr:


I really don't have time to write.

Listen to Goshen360. He has put it forth.

When it's time to say, okay now I understand, you do that. There's no shame anywhere. We learn everyday and from each other.

vooks:

I don't understand why some Pentecostals imagine spiritual gifts are a mark of spirituality or maturity.
Many like me received the gift of tongues within 24 hours of receiving Christ. Tongues are no maturity. Maturity is measured by the fruit of the Spirit

mtchhww..go jorh..you have the gift of tongues but you are not a pentecostal..guy a beg no disturb me,I don't enjoy arguing about this things.

dmandy:





When it's time to say, okay now I understand, you do that. There's no shame anywhere. We learn everyday and from each other.

misreal:
are you born again?

Thanks for asking and not concluding.

Yes I am born again.

Jeromejnr:


I need help bro.

I would have gone through scriptures with you but no time. I told you how this works in experience.
Summary:
There is a tongue as a sign to unbelievers that comes as God wills. E.g. Speaking in language to foreign locals. And you don't know what you said but they do. And also the one for edification of the body of Christ which comes with interpretation either from you or another person. This comes as God wills.

There is a prayer and worship one, you can start it as you will and can also be in others peoples languages or tongues of angels. This is spoken to God and not men. And received at the baptism.
This was the one Jesus said, in My Name they will do.

The Corinthian church messed everything up and mixed it. So Paul had to correct it.

will you be able to explain all these at once

dmandy:

Thanks for asking and not concluding.
Yes I am born again.

what makes a man born again?

misreal:
will you be able to explain all these at once

I can't o!

That was why i just left him to God. The write-up will be very long.

misreal:
what makes a man born again?

Christ is my Lord and my personal savior.

Jeromejnr:


I can't o!

That was why i just left him to God. The write-up will be very long.

hahahahaahhaha..even if you try,will he even agree?

dmandy:


Christ is my Lord and my personal savior.

Christ came to save the whole world,but only those that received him will he save..have you received him yet?

misreal:
hahahahaahhaha..even if you try,will he even agree?

That's the issue. Most people nowadays don't like to hear word.

That's why I will not waste my time again debating doctrines with people.

misreal:
Christ came to save the whole world,but only those that received him will he save..have you received him yet?

Yes, He remains my personal savior.

misreal:
mtchhww..go jorh..you have the gift of tongues but you are not a pentecostal..guy a beg no disturb me,I don't enjoy arguing about this things.

Who said am not Pentecostal?

dmandy:

Yes, He remains my personal savior.

are you baptised in the holy ghost?

misreal:
are you baptised in the holy ghost?

Yes, I am.

Jeromejnr:


I need help bro.

I would have gone through scriptures with you but no time. I told you how this works in experience.
Summary:
There is a tongue as a sign to unbelievers that comes as God wills. E.g. Speaking in language to foreign locals. And you don't know what you said but they do. And also the one for edification of the body of Christ which comes with interpretation either from you or another person. This comes as God wills.

There is a prayer and worship one, you can start it as you will and can also be in others peoples languages or tongues of angels. This is spoken to God and not men. And received at the baptism.
This was the one Jesus said, in My Name they will do.

The Corinthian church messed everything up and mixed it. So Paul had to correct it.

My broda,
Regardless of the various species of tongues, nothing uninterpreted is to be admitted in public worship. If we can't understand what you sayin, zip it. That's Holy Spirit

vooks:
Who said am not Pentecostal?

hahahah..good..oya let's hear your arguement

dmandy:

Yes, I am.

what does it mean to be baptised in the holy ghost??

misreal:
hahahah..good..oya let's hear your arguement

What argument?

misreal:
hahahah..good..oya let's hear your arguement

waoh, looks like someone has got time.

misreal:
what does it mean to be baptised in the holy ghost??

I have the holy spirit of God.

dmandy:

waoh, looks like someone has got time.

k

dmandy:


I have the holy spirit of God.

the evidence of your baptism of the holy ghost,is that you have the holy ghost

vooks:

My broda,
Regardless of the various species of tongues, nothing uninterpreted is to be admitted in public worship

Agreed.

But that does not mean in a public worship everyone can't pray in tongues all together. Its different from ministering to people in tongues without interpretation or giving thanks in tongues.

misreal:
the evidence of your baptism of the holy ghost,is that you have the holy ghost

Yes

dmandy:


Yes

kk..I can't argue with you on this..you are not born again and you are not baptised in the holy ghost.

misreal:
kk..I can't argue with you on this..you are not born again and you are not baptised in the holy ghost.

ok.

that has always been the tactics.

Jeromejnr:


Agreed.

But that does not mean in a public worship everyone can't pray in tongues all together. Its different from ministering to people in tongues without interpretation or giving thanks in tongues.

you can all pray in tongues if you all interpret. But it should be done orderly. Hear Holy Spirit speaking;
1 Corinthians 14:26-28 (KJV)
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God

You can't interpret tongues in a room of even 5 bubbling simultaneously

vooks:

you can all pray in tongues if you all interpret. But it should be done orderly. Hear Holy Spirit speaking;
1 Corinthians 14:26-28 (KJV)
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God

It says everyone that hath a doctrine, psalm and tongue to share before the whole church. Which meant someone might have come up and spoke in tongues before the congregation without interpretation.

It didn't say don't speak In tongues at all in church. Or as a prayer group.

Notice the last line. "Keep silence in church and speak to himself and God" Still in church. But not In front of the congregation to minister to them.

There is a difference.

misreal:
the evidence of your baptism of the holy ghost,is that you have the holy ghost

First, there is no scripture that says one needs evidence of baptism of Holy Spirit much less that the evidence being tongues. That is doctrines of men that make the word of God of non-effect.

What evidence do you have that you are born again? What about evidence that your name is written in the book of life? Or better, that your sins are forgiven?