dmandy:


Good. Go ahead

Go ahead to where?

I said give me scripture. You are telling me to Go ahead.

Jeromejnr:


Of course its not false that Jesus gave a disciple Mary to cater for. And it's also not false that Jesus commanded His disciples to bring Him a donkey.

So what's your point?

Provide another witness to show that Jesus gave his disciple his mother to validate it.

Jeromejnr:


I have answered your question above.

So you agree that the passage Rev 12:17, was referring to Mary? and by so doing agree that she is the Mother of all those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus?

Jeromejnr:

Go ahead to where?
I said give me scripture. You are telling me to Go ahead.

Go ahead and prove that it is Mary that gave birth to Messiah

dmandy:


Provide another witness to show that Jesus gave his disciple his mother to validate it.

You are not smart at all.

Firstly, this show there's no other scripture to back up your claims. So you just picked any scripture before to try to deceive me.

Secondly, Doctrines to be practiced by the Church are to have two or more scripture to validate it, not stories.

That is why things like Communion, Giving e.t.c. are mentioned different times by different people in scriptures.

Thirdly, because there is no other scripture to validate it, you err greatly.

dmandy:


Go ahead and prove that it is Mary that gave birth to Messiah

Why don't you prove it since you know Mary more.

Jeromejnr:


Of course its not false that Jesus gave a disciple Mary to cater for. And it's also not false that Jesus commanded His disciples to bring Him a donkey.

So what's your point?

Why the heck are you dancing left, right and center? why then are you asking for three other passages that says the same thing? I also showed you Rev 12: 17, you said I have to proof that the passage was referring to Mary, then I proceeded ask you who gave birth to a son who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” and you said Mary. wasn't Rev 12 referring to the same woman? The same chapter referring to two different woman? Like I said you're not ready for the truth.

Ichiato:

So you agree that the passage Rev 12:17, was referring to Mary? and by so doing agree that she is the Mother of all those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus?

No you said who gave birth to the Messiah, I said Mary.

I never related it to this verse. I said you prove to me it was Mary it talked about.

Ichiato:

Why the heck are you dancing left, right and center? why then are you asking for three other passages that says the same thing? I also showed you Rev 12: 17, you said I have to proof that the passage was referring to Mary, then I proceeded ask you who gave birth to a son who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” and you said Mary. wasn't Rev 12 referring to the same woman? The same chapter referring to two different woman? Like I said you're not ready for the truth.

How does Rev 12 show that Jesus gave Mary to us to cater for?

Jeromejnr:


You are not smart at all.

Firstly, this show there's no other scripture to back up your claims. So you just picked any scripture before to try to deceive me.

Secondly, Doctrines to be practiced by the Church are to have two or more scripture to validate it, not stories.

That is why things like Communion, Giving e.t.c. are mentioned different times by different people in scriptures.

Thirdly, because there is no other scripture to validate it, you err greatly.

From where did you get the bolded or you just conjured it up.

Ichiato:


From where did you get the bolded or you just conjured it up.

Scripture I gave your friend.

Jeromejnr:


You are not smart at all.

Firstly, this show there's no other scripture to back up your claims. So you just picked any scripture before to try to deceive me.

Secondly, Doctrines to be practiced by the Church are to have two or more scripture to validate it, not stories.

That is why things like Communion, Giving e.t.c. are mentioned different times by different people in scriptures.

Thirdly, because there is no other scripture to validate it, you err greatly.

Show me a scripture that says doctrines must be mentioned different times in the bible. Just one.

Jeromejnr:

Scripture I gave your friend.

Which is?

Jeromejnr:


How does Rev 12 show that Jesus gave Mary to us to cater for?

You are not wise. If Rev 12 describe Mary as our mother, do you need that same Rev 12 to tell you to care for your mother?

Jeromejnr:


Why don't you prove it since you know Mary more.

Ok but at least you believe.

Now Rev12 talks about that same woman that gave birth to the Messiah unless you feel that the Messiah is two or more.

dmandy:


Show me a scripture that says doctrines must be mentioned different times in the bible. Just one.

John 8:17 "Even in your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid."

2 Cor 13 "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."

Deut 17 "But never put a person to death on the testimony of only one witness. There must always be two or three witnesses."

i.e Never do or take an action without if first being validated by two or three witnesses.

what you gave us was a story not a dogma to be acted upon.

Ichiato:

You are not wise. If Rev 12 describe Mary as our mother, do you need that same Rev 12 to tell you to care for your mother?

But that story says the Earth took care of her.

Someone that is in heaven now, how do you want to take care of her?

Who is the unwise person here. SMH.

And yes I need you to show me where it said in Rev that I should take care of her.

Jeromejnr:


John 8:17 "Even in your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid."

2 Cor 13 "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."

Deut 17 "But never put a person to death on the testimony of only one witness. There must always be two or three witnesses."

i.e Never do or take an action without if first being validated by two or three witnesses.

what you gave us was a story not a dogma to be acted upon.

What has putting somebody to death got to do with doctrine..... do you kill people in your church?

How did two or more witnesses change to many passages of the bible.

You are a clown.

Jeromejnr:


No you said who gave birth to the Messiah, I said Mary.

I never related it to this verse. I said you prove to me it was Mary it talked about.

Rev 12: 5

She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

Please who is the woman and the child this passage is talking about. and Rev 12: 17

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

Is she different from the woman in this second passage?

dmandy:


Ok but at least you believe.

Now Rev12 talks about that same woman that gave birth to the Messiah unless you feel that the Messiah is two or more.

First show me where it said Messiah in that scripture?

Jeromejnr:


But that story says the Earth took care of her.

Someone that is in heaven now, how do you want to take care of her?

Who is the unwise person here. SMH.

And yes I need you to show me where it said in Rev that I should take care of her.

So how many messiahs are there?

Ichiato:

Rev 12: 5 Please who is the woman and the child this passage is talking about. and Rev 12: 17 Is she different from the woman in this second passage?

That's what I want you to tell me na. Show me where it says Messiah as your friend said.

dmandy:


What has putting somebody to death got to do with doctrine..... do you kill people in your church?

How did two or more witnesses change to many passages of the bible.

You are a clown.

That was why my last statement was written. And that was why the N.T scriptures was given. Enlighten yourself.

Jeromejnr:


Scripture I gave your friend.

give the scripture here

dmandy:


So how many messiahs are there?

Show me the word Messiah there.

Jeromejnr:

First show me where it said Messiah in that scripture?

Rev 12:5

dmandy:


Rev 12:5

No Messiah there.

Jeromejnr:


That was why my last statement was written. And that was why the N.T scriptures was given. Enlighten yourself.

You talk of doctrine then you quote killing someone. Are you high?

Jeromejnr:

No Messiah there.

What did u see in your own?

dmandy:


You talk of doctrine then you quote killing someone. Are you high?

Do you want me to be low.

It's obvious you are out of points.

dmandy:


What did u see in your own?

What you saw in your own.

Jeromejnr:

Do you want me to be low.
It's obvious you are out of points.

You have no point at all? Doctrine and killing, I don't get it.