laudate:


You don't need to inspect them?? Gee whiz! So what were your comments, based upon? Conjecture?
Please stop lying that "the only sea ports are in Lagos." Period. A decent person would admit his mistakes and move on. Instead you are digging yourself deeper into the hole of deceit. You really do not need to lie, pretend or hyperventilate to get your points across.

kenny987:

I did not dispute d presence of viable seaports in places othere than Lagos. I only queried their functionality. It is not importers or users that will decide whether or not to use them. It is the duty of the govt to set them up to full functional capacity before use.

laudate:


Go back and re-read your former comment which I quoted in my preceding post. When you have done so, then you can come back here and post a well-researched response, instead of digging yourself deeper into the hole you have just created. Like I said before, there is no need to lie in order to make your points.

kenny987:


This was in response to ur quote telling me there are other seaports besides Lagos. There is no need to include d others if they're not functional but for d academic purpose u seem to want to pursue rather than reality, I did respond and say that they are there but not functioning at capacity with necessary infrastructure n personnel. Do u have a problem? Please this issue has been over flogged and u know the truth as well as I do that till date resources have mainly been focused in Lagos as far as core commerce is concerned. Stop the tomfoolery and attempt to sound knowledgeable when you're basically just splitting hairs.

Once more, this isn't d aim of this thread.

laudate:


Eeyah! You just love arguing blindly don't you? You first claimed that the major seaports are only in Lagos. Your error was pointed out. Instead of doing the honourable thing by admitting your mistake and moving on, you came back to dig yourself deeper into the hole by insisting on dishing out more excuses to cover up your errors.

You then turned round to state that the other ports are non-functional after your error was brought to your attention. Yet, in the same breath you admitted that you have not inspected them. Now, how did you know that they are non-functional if you have NOT inspected them?? Na wah, o! Now, you are claiming that this is not the aim of this thread. Oh, but I never said it was. My point remains that you do not have to lie, to get your points across.

Continue...

kenny987:

Clear comprehension issues abound in u. Stop d attempt to cover d collective n deliberate failure of d govt. It is not my place as a private citizen to personally inspect every seaport location before I can deduce that they are fit for operations. Information to that effect abound and on that basis i can conclude that they aren't operational.

Your stories would carry weight if I said there weren't others after u quoted my original post. If u choose to see my post as a lie that my dear, is ur cup of tea.

laudate:


Point of correction. The Itsekiri and Urhobo are NOT part of the Biafra project!!

c33b33:
Carnegiefan, I am humbled by your superior submission. I personally must keep an arm cos I will have a residence in the northern border,I love there and it is close to the enemies.

The monkey talking about Calabar and Port Harcourt seaports and saying it isn't his fault people are not using them. This has shown the level you have lost fact on your dear country. For your information, those ports were sold to Atiku Abubakar's "Intels" and is now a private property. The last time I was in Calabar port,it was only Dangote's ship that was docked and Seawolf Onome Rig(worked there) undergoing maintenance.

I ask again write a compelling article on "why nigeria will work". Or get ready to keep running amok on every Biafra thread because it won't end.
Nde ara!

IPOB Youth

laudate:


Point of correction. The Itsekiri and Urhobo are NOT part of the Biafra project!!

kenny987:


Thanks bro. I didn't even know this and there I was arguing with a nitwit that knows nothing but evil.

cheruv:

Thanks for correcting him
Even though he's Sobo,I wonder what makes it hard for him to accept the fact that out of the 25 LGs Delta has,only the nine Igbo LGs and the three Ijaw LGs are slated for incorporation into Biafra.the other thirteen can rejoin the Bini empire or whatever that remains from Nigeria.

Kagawa10:

Ukwuani are no ibo though!

c33b33:
Carnegiefan, I am humbled by your superior submission. I personally must keep an arm cos I will have a residence in the northern border,I love there and it is close to the enemies.

The monkey talking about Calabar and Port Harcourt seaports and saying it isn't his fault people are not using them. This has shown the level you have lost fact on your dear country. For your information, those ports were sold to Atiku Abubakar's "Intels" and is now a private property. The last time I was in Calabar port,it was only Dangote's ship that was docked and Seawolf Onome Rig(worked there) undergoing maintenance.

I ask again write a compelling article on "why nigeria will work". Or get ready to keep running amok on every Biafra thread because it won't end.
Nde ara!

IPOB Youth

kenny987:

Thanks bro. I didn't even know this and there I was arguing with a nitwit that knows nothing but evil.

NAIJASOM:
Please I need honest answers from anybody that knows this; (I mean no disrespect)

Apart from the establishment of radio biafra, does IPOB organisation have any concrete plan to make biafra happen?

Telling people everyday that Nigeria is bad (which we already know) IS NOT enough to make people support Biafra? What are their plans to make biafra happen? Thank you

xyzhill:
@carnegiefan
@C33B33
Dont u think a collision of numerous thoughts n nids will occur cuz direct respresentation of local government in d parliament will be much due to large numbers of LGAs?

And why nt use provinces for states and county for LGAs? Every provinces will exerise concurent functions with a unicameral legislature and counties residual functions while the central government does both concurrent n exclusive function maintains a unicarmeral legislature. Every province will own 60 percent of her resource thereby foostering fast development and reducing dependancy on d central government just like states in the USA. Representatives to the parliament would come frm d provinces say 3 or 4 representatives per province. They will be a level of uniformality in all province. Xo this will make our state have an outlook of a federal system of government but still mantains a unitaty system..... N state police force should be added while d central own a CIPF - central investigative police force. lemme add if our police force are nt to carry firearms alt least let them carry batons aka.condo to knock some sense into an erring head

carnegiefan:
These are the Biafran dreams, and I know that there is no way Nigeria can do this in the next 500 years. How do I know? Well, Abuja does not even have good circulation system, and buildings don't have elevators mandatorily.

Go to Onitsha, you see four storey buildings everywhere, but NO ELEVATOR. In Biafra this can't happen!

carnegiefan:


Yes they will be "heavily armed" with batons, whistles, and tie-ropes like in Japan. No guns for beat cops.
Detectives will carry concealed weapons; SWAT will carry assault and sniper rifles.

As for the details of the representative system, it should be designed to reflect our natural democratic tenets - only people whom local interests choose can go to parliament. This is to enable constant "revolutions" (when locals simply go to their reps house and burn it down in anger if he/she fails to represent them well ) This also means that it would be very difficult if not impossible for someone to simple come from "abroad" (ie outside the clan areas) to be elected to parliament. In Biafra, all politics must really be local to avoid rancour or deal with it at local levels. If the locals don't want their rep anymore, a very simple recall procedure will be put in place. The reps won't have any expected "tenure"; they are only there for as long as their clans want them there. There will be general election dates of course.
The whole idea is to discourage diehard Nigerian thieves from hijacking Biafran freedom and democracy.

So we defeat them systemically and institutionally.

kenny987:


You're really going to run a temperature at this rate. These countries u refer to how did they come into existence? Did some colonial masters decide whom to lump together under one name? The Biafrans have a totally different ideology and belief/value system totally different from others that make up Nigeria. It always clashes and that is why for instance, someone will say Igbos are proud, like to show off and do not respect their hosts. To the Igbo/Biafran, his tradition make him a master unto himself with full recognition if his right to contribute to decision making before it becomes law from the elders. The reverse is the case in Yoruba or Hausa/Islam where the word of the Oba or Emir or Imam is law.

Our elders are highly respected and honoured but cannot dictate to a member of d community. We ask questions n demand answers and then agree before we comply hence our republican nature. That isn't the case with most others we've been forced to be with.

This is not withstanding d lack of fairness and just one instance is d creation of states. The less number of states automatically reduces representation at d centre. Biafrans don't take easily to a master servant relationship as is currently run in Nigeria. We strongly advocate n demand equality and healthy competition hence the call for decentralisation and resource control. This of course has not even been countenanced by the govt. We also like to make our accomplishments known but to others it is called bragging and showing off. That is why in the one Nigeria we profess, u see people saying go back to ur place, they want to take over and all that....
Meanwhile d FG decides d bulk of development projects and has decided to site major seaports only in Lagos. What do u then expect a naturally entrepreneurial people to do but flock the same area in droves?

Yet we hear that we are ungrateful to our 'hosts'...in one Nigeria? Tell me who are d victims of religious crises in the North? Do u have same in d Biafra region?

I will not go further....it is not your cause. Stop bothering yourself. He who fails to plan, plans to fail. You will not hear any Igbo leader say anything now until the time is right and u do not decide that time. It will not also be presented before the Nigerian Parliament because our laws as currently drafted do not have provisions for the subject matter. I know u will have justifications for all I have enumerated here and all I haven't mentioned but that is ur prerogative. Biafrans desire Biafra and will have Biafra!

wale6run:


[b]You have reduced the discussion to alternating between whimpering and bigotry, which I will not dignify with further response hereafter.

Do you know how many nationalities or tribes are there in India, Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Angola, South Africa, Kenya, USA, Canada etc? These were under colonial masters besides those previously listed. Either your history is faulty or you don't know your onions!

No body forced you into Nigeria. Indeed, one of your eminent sons, Zik, fought for Nigerian independence. You were happy for Ibos to be at the helm of affairs in Nigeria but as soon as power slipped from your hands, you started churning out outlandish excuses for Ibo-own country!

Power slipped from your hands because of that same tribal bigotry that conspired with Biafra to eliminate all National and regional leaders except of Ibos' extraction. This is the genesis of your mistrust in Nigeria. As for your threat of achieving Biafra come rain come sun shine, only an unhinged general will brag of running away from the war front as a feat.

No matter what unbaked response you care to write, I will not grace it any further but will leave you with this haunting images of what tribal bigotry, egocentricity and mad bragging entailed. Take a look:[/b]

wale6run:


[b]You have reduced the discussion to alternating between whimpering and bigotry, which I will not dignify with further response hereafter.

Do you know how many nationalities or tribes are there in India, Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Angola, South Africa, Kenya, USA, Canada etc? These were under colonial masters besides those previously listed. Either your history is faulty or you don't know your onions!

No body forced you into Nigeria. Indeed, one of your eminent sons, Zik, fought for Nigerian independence. You were happy for Ibos to be at the helm of affairs in Nigeria but as soon as power slipped from your hands, you started churning out outlandish excuses for Ibo-own country!

Power slipped from your hands because of that same tribal bigotry that conspired with Biafra to eliminate all National and regional leaders except of Ibos' extraction. This is the genesis of your mistrust in Nigeria. As for your threat of achieving Biafra come rain come sun shine, only an unhinged general will brag of running away from the war front as a feat.

No matter what unbaked response you care to write, I will not grace it any further but will leave you with this haunting images of what tribal bigotry, egocentricity and mad bragging entailed. Take a look:[/b]

kenny987:


As many tribes and as diverse as the countries u mentioned are, how many are as backward n skewed against a section as Nigeria? Is their development n governance tied to n dependent on one centre that shares money that doesn't come from it?

Bottom line is, we prefer to be alone since this experiment of amalgamation has stunted our growth. Until u can tell me with proof that Biafrans do not have a right to self-determination, all ur postulations are dead on arrival. The truth is what it is, u cannot hide it forever. Posting pictures of Nigeria's treachery against Biafrans only strengthen d resolve to be separate from perpetrators of such evil.

I always tell u, it is not your cause. We did not consent to Nigeria.