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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by xyzhill(m): 9:52am On Oct 07, 2015 |
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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Ngwaukwu1(m): 11:39am On Oct 07, 2015 |
carnegiefan: Nwa nnem, while the intention behind this your idea is noble, i dare say however that a State getting involved in the marriage habits of its citizens, does come across as somewhat paternalistic . . . Such tendencies are found more in stagnating feudal States or communist environments where the citizens are deprived of individual liberties by the State and not trusted enough to make the right decisions about their personal lives. Such paternalistic tendencies, to be honest, are not in the least progressive and should not be the lot of Biafrans. The leadership of Modern Biafra should create the enabling environment for all its citizens to be able live freely within the law and be able to express themselves and attain whatever it is they wish to achieve with their lives. And while these enabling laws should be founded on the traditions of the different peoples that make up Biafra, they must be refined to reflect modern understanding of human behaviour and aspirations. It is imperative therefore that the individual liberties of all peoples living within Biafra are protected by law and not stifled by atavistic belief systems! The State must therefore refrain from interfering with people's personal life choices and experiences provided they do not infringe on the liberties of others. It should not be the role of the State to make decisions about when people should get married, what or who they choose to believe in etc. The State must instead occupy itself with creating that enabling socio-political environment that allows all Biafran citizens to be the best they can be. This we must aspire to, if we want a truly modern and progressive society that we can be proud of. And while we hope that our lovely women all settle down and not end up 'roaming the streets', it would be somewhat misplaced to think it is the role of the State to get them all betrothed. Infact it is worth acknowledging that not all women, or indeed men at that, will choose to end up their lives shackled to somebody in matrimony! Nwa nnem, not all in these modern times will make that choice. . . 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by TheOnlyWiseMan: 1:44pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
abikubu: List the names of leaders who died in war front. Wait o o, where did Ojukwu mentioned that he ran away? |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by TheOnlyWiseMan: 2:42pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
abikubu: For your mind you've made some valid points? Check this out.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/photostories_detail.asp?PsID=68
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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by disumusa: 3:43pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
carnegiefan:what is biafra, a tribe without leader. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 7:33pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
Ngwaukwu1: Clearly this issue is a very touchy one, but we must still address it. Nwanne m, I never said that the STATE WILL MAKE DECISIONS for anybody about how to marry or who to marry. What I stated is that there should be FREEDOM of MARRIAGE, between men and women of course. There are many ways the state can help encourage a desirable home and marriage for citizens -tax incentive is one of them. The state must not force anybody to marry. The goal is simple, encourage as much marriage-age ladies to be married as possible! In that freedom of marriage, men should be incentivized to (1) Marry on time; (2) Marry more than one women if they can afford it. This is not unChristian. A lot has happened in the history to make this seem unChristian, but all the men close to God in the Bible were all polygynists, including Abraham. This issue is BIG and frightens a lot of people, but what I fear more is a situation whereby our ladies are not married. All kinds of evil things happen as a consequence. We cannot have a country patrolled by unarmed beat policemen, free of crimes and ruled by collective responsibility if we don't revisit our past as Africans, to examine what worked for us before the colonialists came. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 7:56pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
xyzhill: My brother, I have actually researched and thought about this problem for a very long time. As a STRONG Christian (apart from my security concerns) I believe that what we have now makes too much room for ADULTERY and FORNICATION both of which are expressly stated in the Bible and in the 10 commandments that God hates, and both of which are pervading Biafraland as we speak. I would encourage you to do your own independent research on monogamy; you can start with a simple Google search: "History of monogamy"; or "Is Polygamy Biblical", or something along those lines. I started doing the research when I became alarmed at the number of divorces happening in countries that force monogamy. In fact in those countries, what you have is SERIAL MONOGAMY -some men marry and divorce 8 (EIGHT) times in their life times; but Jesus was clear that a divorced woman has only been made an adulterer by her husband. The only narrow room Jesus allowed was if a woman committed adultery. People divorce for all kinds of things in such societies. What we have now is a very SELFISH and SELF CENTERED marriage system which breeds ADULTERY, GREED and WICKEDNESS. If we don't control greed and wickedness Biafra will not be different from Nigeria. For your information, nearly ALL of the men closest to God in the Bible starting from Abraham to David were all polygamous. My brother you can show me where God commanded Isreal not to be polygamous, and I will stand corrected. Nobody knows it all, for sure. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by abikubu: 7:57pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
TheOnlyWiseMan: Your copy and paste response to original thought cannot bring you biafra from the grave! Neither is South Sudan born out of tribal bigotry or false premise for the Ibos to have a country of their own. In deed, Biafra is a minority ibo project, e.g., Kanu, MASSOB. I will tell you what you need to know about South Sudan before latching onto it because it is a false example for biafra. Firstly, South Sudan is part of Sub-Saharan Africa subsumed into Ottoman Caliphate of Egypt in the Sahel region, including Sudan in the 19th century. South Sudan was never part of Sahel region geographically! South Sudan has 5 major tribes and about 75 other sub-tribes unlike biafra, which is a fruitless Ibo tribal country quest, albeit a dead one! South Sudan has international boundaries with six African countries: Kenya, Uganda, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo and Sudan but Ibos are entirely surrounded by Nigeria and totally dependent on Nigeria from air, land and sea. South Sudan had been fighting Sudan for almost 40 years. During this period, there were countless massacres, crimes against humanity, famines and countless deaths. This is the condition for UN to get involved in internal affairs of member states. To prevent genocide or ethnic cleansing! Even so, the Peace Agreement that made possible the referendum and subsequent independence was mediated by the Intergovernmental Authority on Development and a consortium of donor countries. As an impartial referee, the UN sponsored and supervised the referendum. Note that none of these could have been possible without the agreement of the warring parties. UN does not impose referendum or create countries. In your desperation for biafra, you can grasp at any illogicality to buttress a stale tale. For us, Nigerians, the tale of vanquished biafra is a non-issue but your dogmatism is the chief source of your ignorance. Finally, you can't create biafra from the internet but you can make noise all you want. 10 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 8:09pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
abikubu: I now see what is driving this guy's lunatic tantrums. You vanquished Biafra; oya go and sleep na! ![]() ![]() Why are you here ranting then? Ndi ara! ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by adoinem(f): 8:19pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
carnegiefan: Rather than presenting a clearly defined logical argument, you are striking or cancelling well researched and reasoned response in well-versed English as lunacy? If you can't stand the truth, then don't post trash on NL, which someone said borders on hallucination or schizophrenia. These acts of yours are more akin to lunacy, if you ask me! 10 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by abikubu: 8:22pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
adoinem: My sweet Sister, do pay hoot to a drowning, schizophrenic asshole bigot! 9 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by wale6run: 9:48pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE: [b]Boy, why do you want to make a fool of yourself on social medium with half-baked dictum and gibberish? The name Bethlehem is called Bayt Lahm in Arabic, which means "House of meat". As far back as 1330 BC it was inhabited by Canaanites. Galilee was called al-jalil in Arabic and Ha Galil in Hebrew. The Bible names for these towns were adulterations created by translators of the bible.You don't swallow the bible whole, sink, hook and line without question. The Bible has four methods of allegorical interpretation: literal, anagogic, typological and tropological but an inept rookie like you will gorge at it gleefully. Further, if you believe that the Jews and Arabs were both descendants of Abraham, then your reference to Palestinians as occupiers shows the depth of your ignorance. Without delving further into history of the Middle East or origins of the bible, suffice it to say that the Palestinians and Israelis have equal rights to the land within the 1967 borders. You only confound your ignorance by equating any of the references to these peoples as applicable to the ibos and biafra dream! They do not. [/b] 8 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by xyzhill(m): 9:57pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
carnegiefan:u are right itz no where stated in the bible...... Well nw my stand is shaky but personally I'll hav a monogamous home. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 11:07pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
xyzhill: Me too bro, but it is not because of the colonialist ideology. I do so because I can't handle more than one woman at the same time. But there are others who can. Honestly this issue will be handled easily in Biafra because our culture (when allowed to play itself out unimpeded) is very close to the Israelite of the Bible culture. Colonialism (and its continued existence through neo-colonialist "countries" like Nigeria) has dealt us a very bad hand. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 11:19pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
xyzhill: On "Churches", in Biafra we shall encourage agglomeration (rather than proliferation) of churches. There should be a "Biafran Church", one created by our theologians and anthropologists for Biafrans. To me though, the real "church" is the one embeded in the individual citizen. Our bodies are the temple of the Most High, and His spirit lives there. Jesus (THE bread of life) stated this when he said that what defiles a person is what comes from inside. That is why we must discourage ALL forms of body abuse: adultery, fornication, debauchery, whoremongering, gluttony, alcoholism, m.a.stur.bation -all things that DEFILE the body, hence destroying the temple of the Most High Chukwu Okike Abiama, our God. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 11:36pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
At this time I shall address the pesting "one Nigerianists" who are crawling all over this thread. This thread is about HOW BIAFRA WILL BE BETTER THAN NIGERIA. It is NOT about South Sudan, Eritrea, or any other jaundiced imaginations that you futilly try to yoke Biafra (unequally I must add) to in any way, shape or form: THEY ARE NOT related to Biafra. You cannot compare Germany with Greece just because they are both European. To do so would be very st.upid. Biafra currently boasts some of the best human resource pool in Black Africa -our peoples are technocrats and engineers working for such High tech companies as NASA and BOEING. Our peoples attend top schools worldwide (MIT, Harvard, etc) and have received awards of excellence from GLOBAL bodies. Our history in Biafra (eastern corner of "Nigeria" . ) has been one of mutual respect and peace. Nobody colonized another in thousands of years of our existence before the arrival of the colonialists. We are one people and we are about 90+% Christian. We have given Nigeria 55 years already, and all we get are insults and attempts to keep us down. You can threaten, shout, rant, insult, and throw all the fits you like, IT SHALL NOT STOP OUR ATTEMPTS TO BE FREE FROM YOU LOTS. This shall be my last response to you. You are hereinafter IGNORED. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by fablola: 12:03am On Oct 08, 2015 |
c33b33: You are the most unrepentant down-at-heel hedgehog with imprudent mouth I ever came across! Here you are insulting people, including Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, a national hero but you have the effrontery to accuse others of doing the same thing, you bald-headed vulture! Zik's national heroism places his image on the Nigerian currency and places of national monuments named after him. This is a feat you can never aspire to in your generations of armed robbers and hyena-cannibalism! There was the Bight of Biafra but never a nation of biafra until ojukwu's lunatic experiment with 3 million disposable ibos! You are not only improperly configured but an unbridled liar too. If you don't know what you have in common with your country men, then seek therapy for your psychological imbalance! 8 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by veralech(f): 12:52am On Oct 08, 2015 |
c33b33: Your post and the questions you asked showed one that was heavily laden with limited knowledge but pretended to know. It is sad! Which tribe in Nigeria is not indigenous people? You asked for one common element but this has been answered by several responses already and I quote them briefly: " ...Ibos are entirely surrounded by Nigeria and totally dependent on Nigeria from air, land and sea.... As for who is a parasite and who is a benefactor: ... Nigeria did far better without the Ibos during the war and emerged relatively unscratched while the ibos saw hell on earth without Nigeria, just to stress the point of who is the armed robber and victim! UN does not impose referendum or create countries. In your desperation for biafra, you can grasp at any illogicality to buttress a stale tale. For us, Nigerians, the tale of vanquished biafra is a non-issue but your dogmatism is the chief source of your ignorance. Finally, you can't create biafra from the internet but you can make noise all you want. 7 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by veralech(f): 1:08am On Oct 08, 2015 |
carnegiefan: You ignorant schizophrenic tribal bigot hallucinating on NL should be ashamed. A Kenyan is an American President and Nigerians of all tribes are Engineers, scientists in both America and Europe but the sky has not fallen in. What an requited back-passage bug! abikubu: adoinem: 9 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 1:32am On Oct 08, 2015 |
Next is Industry/Manufacturing: This sector shall received MAXIMUM attention by the Biafran state. Basically suffice to say that technology shall form the legs upon which the nation shall stand. To make this happen as desired, a fixed percentage (2%) of the GDP must ANNUALLY be budgeted to support research and technology by Biafran universities and private tech companies, each of which must be made to specialize in one or two specific fields of technology. For instance, a university can specialize in auto engineering, while another in computer engineering, and another in aviation physics and aerospace technology. The government funds should be by way of grants mainly, each of which must only be renewed upon showing of WORLD CLASS products. Biafra will aim to dominate specific corners of each field of technology. For example, Biafra can choose to be the worldwide authority in ship propellers, or naval navigation systems (software for example) The grants should go to universities and private companies which have demonstrated RESULTS not plans. So, to recap. Biafra will invest at least 2% of GDP into technological innovations ANNUALLY. Biafra has demonstrated during the last war that our engineers could build guided anti-ship missiles, and that was at a time when computers have not been very much miniaturized. Building such weapon today should be easier since we also have better trained scientists and engineers. Biafran scientists shall work both in universities, and tech companies on a rotating basis. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 1:46am On Oct 08, 2015 |
One more issue to discuss is Taxation: A very sound taxation system is the bedrock of a modern economy. I personally prefer that we emphasize more on VAT (or sales tax) than any other taxes. PAYE is still good, but it tends to be evaded by people a lot. But a robust VAT system and a reduced company tax would help to attract some of the world leading companies (after infrastructure has been first taken care of, of course). Instead of hounding people all over the place because of personal income tax ( a lot of our people will still be traders and business persons no matter what), we can have a high rate of VAT. We can use VAT to encourage or discourage consumption of particular goods and services. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by c33b33(m): 2:57am On Oct 08, 2015 |
veralech: I wanted to ignore this but I had to quote. Please go and upgrade your education because you have shown your lack of enlightenment on history. Biafra is not an Igbo affair,Igbo is a language in Biafra. Google can help your lazy ass on research and it is far more better than your gutter press and nairaland. We are not the only indigenous people but are the only ones with guts to exercise the right to self-determination. You can roast in your cowardice and parasitic state. Allow us make our noise on internet without interfering,can you?Monkey! IPOB Youth 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by c33b33(m): 3:11am On Oct 08, 2015 |
fablola: Bla! Bla! Bla! Has B.oohari renovated his rottening grave? From Pan Africa to One Nigeria,all in vain. What does his people remember him for? Occupying 500naira note that is worthless and an airport in Hausa Fulani land. Monkey get off my mention. You ain't worth my attention again. IPOB Youth |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by theDEVILisHERE: 6:53am On Oct 08, 2015 |
wale6run: Mr man You cannot change facts If the Arabs are the original owners of that land why is galilee not called Al-jalil Also is the word Jerusalem arabic Why is bethlehem not called beth-lyhm (or what ever that is) What of jericho, judea etc Did they have arabic names too If they did who changed them and when was that done Have you asked yourself why the Isrealites (jew is just a tribe within isreal, tho their opperessor succeeded in using the term "jew" to brandish all of them) where scartered all over europe and the world over before 1940's What do you think will make an indegenous set of people who should have a home be scatered all over europe and the world They can only get scartered from somewhere Now question is Where did they get scartered from Have you asked your self How the arabs(babylonians) who originated from present day saudi arabia (know as babylon in the ancient times) found their way to the present day jerusalem and other places in isreal How,when and why was the al-aksa mosque established where the temple of solomon is (remember solomon was a king of the isrealites) Also who established those so called holy sites where those of the christain faith go to see about their pioneer yawhashwa (wrongly called jesus) Also how did islam that was pioneered by a so called mohammed who originates from present day saudi arabia find its way to jerusalem As I always say When you want to get to the bottom of things You look at real facts on ground (emphasis on real) Draw your inference And you get your answer As for the restoration of biafra (restoration because like I said it existed even before britain), that's a forgone conclussion already cause that's already on the way 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by TheOnlyWiseMan: 3:17pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
abikubu: Thank you for your endless sermon, with this, I'm convinced that you believe that biafra is not achievable. I advise you quit this and other similar threads so as to allow us to continue our Wild Goose Chase THANKS 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by xyzhill(m): 6:31pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
carnegiefan:owk gud ideas....... In battling these temple destroyer then the state will have to control porn circulation. Perhaps an out right ban will Do.... |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by wale6run: 7:18pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE: [b]Boy, you are in serious need of history and religious lessons, which I will not oblige you because you are not configured to learn. Briefly, in 1400BC the Assyrians inhabited Jerusalem which they called Ursaliimmu. It later changed hands and was occupied by the Jebusites who called it Jebus. During the times of the ancient Hebrew, they called it Salem. I told you that the biblical names of those places were mistranslated and were not Israelis names or language. The above is just to enlighten you that what you read in the Bible is not to be taken literally. On the allegorical interpretation of the Bible there are already 4 different ways of understanding the bible. Yet you are making general and unspecific references to the Bible and asking questions. Only an elementary child answers a question with a question! I now see that you are not worth it because dogmatism is in front of your learning ability. If you want to resurrect dead biafra from internet, you are welcome to spend your aimless dream online. You will know when you wake up! [/b] 8 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by cheruv: 7:45pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
adoinem:Follow me back...let's get to know each other better |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Amansu(f): 7:48pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
TheOnlyWiseMan: You mean you want to continue your elusive and fruitless biafra chase on NL? Just out of curiosity, how do you hope to find him online? Shouldn't you be looking for his grave to dig? Are you sure everything is okay? 8 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by mariamjane(f): 7:54pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
c33b33: Talk about a loose and unbridled gutter mouth! You found you could not response but had to insult the lady as befitted your nefarious upbringing? Shame on you, pit mouth! 7 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by theDEVILisHERE: 7:54pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
wale6run: Mr man My facts are not based on some nonsensical Roman configured book called bible My facts are based on real history Like I asked Why are those cities/towns not answering their so called original names If the names where changed When where the names of those cities/towns changed and by who Why was the al-aksa mosque built on a site where the already existing temple of solomon was Arabic as a language originates from present day saudi arabia Now how did it find it's way to prsent day isreal Also where were the Isrealites living before they found themselves scarttered all over europe and other parts of the world These are simple questions you are supposed to be able to answer if your facts are right As for biafra Don't bother yourself cause its restoration is already on the way |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 8:10pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
TheOnlyWiseMan: Lol! A very apt reply. |
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