iboboyswag:
From the look of things I am yet to see a full picture of the car as posted by the op as I am not convinced with the partial picture posted in regards to the actual state of the car.
In as much as I despise fraud and blame the seller for not disclosing all the faults(which I also know is quite impossible), I sincerely believe (from his writeups) that the op doesn't want an amicable solution but rather is out for blood, his sole intent is to tarnish the image of the seller.
My verdict to chucky234;
1)you knew of the aforementioned faults though maybe not to the exaggerated extent the op has disclosed and yet you chose not to mention.
2)the driver u sent to deliver the car decided to play a fast one on the op with or without your collusion, fraudulently collecting 66k from the op.

My verdict to oseri;
1)in as much as I know it is not a crime to trust someone I strongly believe that you failed to properly carryout due diligence before the transfer of money or is there something we don't know?
2)you are buying a Nigerian everyday used 13yr old mecerdes Benz car for the said amount and expect it to be in pristine condition?

Final verdict.
Chucky234, your non-disclosure of all the faults of the vehicle has led to the op making unnecessary and unplanned expenditure in the course of getting a car from you and Because you were responsible for delivering the car in a working state to the op, chucky234, your driver had no reason whatsoever to demand and collect money from the op to cover repairs in the course of delivery. You are hereby directed to refund the money (66k) collected by your driver from the op.
Oseri , seeing that you are the unsuspecting buyer here I empathize with you but I must give you the hard truth that no amount of juju can upturn, u still owe the man a 100k(mind you it was the driver that collected 66k from you). I would advise you cut your loss and let this be, there is a whole lot of other things to banter about.

P.s: in reality Oseri na you chop am just that it was not as much as you expected.

chucky234:
You go about posting nonsense on my threads yet shameless to ask me for money, I told you I'm going to teach a lesson you won't forget in a hurry.
Something big is going to hit you sooner than you expect, those ranting here will sure hear the outcome.

largehead:
Whats this One saying?

fanex:
check my profile i drive a 2013 camry i ran it for almost the whole day before paying for it.

Dantedasz:


He wouldn't show the sand and superglue because he had the intention of cheating and scamming. The advertisement he used to lure and ensnare the poor OP was full of half truths and outright falsehood.

Illiyahama:
@Chucky234,

Honestly im surprised at how you have (un)intentionally decided to tarnish your reputation over a miserly 50k. Man i wonder how some of you easily allow your business names and goodwill to go up in smoke. Accept the damn truth... You sold the man a lemon. What you sold him was in stark contrast to what you advertised. In your own words'' clean interior and well maintained'' was what you wrote,only for him to see the opposite.

Obviously you are not adept at conflict resolution else you wont have allowed this issue to get to this level. What stopped you from reaching out to the OP? He is your customer for crying out loud! You owe it to him to satisfy him so as to possibly ensure a repeat purchase. Instead you are here arrogantly digging your head into the sand like an Ostrich. It takes one disgruntled customer to ruin your business,and your reputation, your integrity,your goodwill will be gone. You are nothing without your clients. Absolutely nothing!

The earlier you stop uttering disgusting threats to your clients and focus on resolving your issues with them the better for you. The earlier you realize that arrogance aint taking you nowhere,the better for your personality.

Man up and apologize to the OP. Call him and resolve this issue in order to salve the remnants of your diminished goodwill.

A word is enough for the wise.

iboboyswag:

Maybe if you just read, you would understand..... I promise you

iboboyswag:
From the look of things I am yet to see a full picture of the car as posted by the op as I am not convinced with the partial picture posted in regards to the actual state of the car.
In as much as I despise fraud and blame the seller for not disclosing all the faults(which I also know is quite impossible), I sincerely believe (from his writeups) that the op doesn't want an amicable solution but rather is out for blood, his sole intent is to tarnish the image of the seller.
My verdict to chucky234;
1)you knew of the aforementioned faults though maybe not to the exaggerated extent the op has disclosed and yet you chose not to mention.
2)the driver u sent to deliver the car decided to play a fast one on the op with or without your collusion, fraudulently collecting 66k from the op.

My verdict to oseri;
1)in as much as I know it is not a crime to trust someone I strongly believe that you failed to properly carryout due diligence before the transfer of money or is there something we don't know?
2)you are buying a Nigerian everyday used 13yr old mecerdes Benz car for the said amount and expect it to be in pristine condition?

Final verdict.
Chucky234, your non-disclosure of all the faults of the vehicle has led to the op making unnecessary and unplanned expenditure in the course of getting a car from you and Because you were responsible for delivering the car in a working state to the op, chucky234, your driver had no reason whatsoever to demand and collect money from the op to cover repairs in the course of delivery. You are hereby directed to refund the money (66k) collected by your driver from the op.
Oseri , seeing that you are the unsuspecting buyer here I empathize with you but I must give you the hard truth that no amount of juju can upturn, u still owe the man a 100k(mind you it was the driver that collected 66k from you). I would advise you cut your loss and let this be, there is a whole lot of other things to banter about.

P.s: in reality Oseri na you chop am just that it was not as much as you expected.

koboko69:


Where is your sense? I grabbed all of the advert...in case the culprit tries to take down the post. See pics advertised and see the interior posted by the OP. Chuks "cleverly" blured some of the pics. He knew what he was doing. He is a useless theif...

predatorX:
i dunno what is scam if this isn't.

PICTURE IN THE ADVERT
[img]scam2.jpg[/img]


actual car
[img]scam1.jpg[/img]

GAZZUZZ:
Iv never met chucky234 or oseri, but I'm a fan to both of them, oseri is a regular contributor on most of my threads and chucky234 is a trusted car dealer.

From all I have read it's very easy to solve the issues at hand, chucky has offered to refund (very hard to get this kind of offer) oseri why not return the car and get you money back? Then split the loss of transport down the middle?

abatically:
I thought this guy use to brag so much about this car on cartalk. Hmm chucky, if what the op posted is really that ur Benz, then u Bleep up and worse than a kazeem. This car looks like something they use in selling bread lol. Tattered interior, no airbag, and what's that in the ashtray and gear lever? Abs cannibalized, no battery. Where is the maintenance culture? And the way that car was advertised as if everything was perfect. Na Toyota u sabi yab, common c class no gree u maintain but u will be the first to discourage anyone from buying a Toyota.

Oya chucky234, pls tell us the picture the op is showing us is not ur car.

mekzyjoe:

. . oseri is even owin him 100k ontop of dat? Com on giv me a break

betandwin8484:



Yes at this modern age in developed countries, pre ordering is what makes the economy going, modern age pre ordering or buying something without seeing the opposite face is something normal. just Nigerians are scammers but am still saying it,, there are reliable dealers here..imagine Op wants to buy MB 2002 model for 730K, is that not greed, that's why they always fall victims. we all want cheap stuffs...

largehead:
Whats this One saying?

iboboyswag:
There are salient questions that we need to ask to enable us form a balanced view of the present challenge.
1. Why did oseri resort to doling out 66k for repairs on a car which is yet to be delivered to him?
2. In the course of this transaction as narrated by both parties oseri is yet to show a detailed picture of the so damaged vehicle because the two pictures posted don't tell much in real terms. Mind you this car as agreed by both parties, left Lagos and arrive portharcourt in less than 12hrs.
3. Why is oseri not returning the supposed defective vehicle and demand for his full sum refunded rather than demand 50k to cover for additional and unforseen repairs The refusal of which by chucky234 has spurn this argument and shaming?

Please don't get me wrong, chucky234 f*****up(the blurry interior picture) but I still think oseri is being economical with the truth.

It is easier to shame and call someone a scam on this platform because the onus and burden of proof rests with the accused instead of the other way round and with the sheer number of people ready to throw jabs, u just as guilty as accused.

My take on is this, the said vehicle is not as bad as oseri paints it to be and on the extreme I don't think oseri intended on paying up the balance 100k. Chucky234 just made it all easy for him.

uboma:



Did you bother to read from page 1 of this thread?

You are simply calling a spade a spoon. Why support Chucky234 for being cunning and selling his 'lemon car' to the op? Has chucky234 implored you to twist the whole story to his favour?

With comments like yours, fraudulent activities will continue unabated on this forum.

0rex:
To those it may concern, it is highly possible for a car that is over 10 years old to be in pristine condition whether Nigeria used or not. I mean... What are you guys talking about?

That said, i think we need a third party assessment of this car by a nairalander in PH probably with police escort or using any other way of ensuring his/her own safety, because the noise everyone is making here may not do anything in Oseri's interest ultimately.

iboboyswag:


Yes I have gone through every page.

Now my question, what makes it a lemon? give me pictorial proof. What classifies a car as a lemon?

If that car has half the defects your friend has claimed, it won't do Lagos portharcourt in the time it did it (mind you they have both agreed it did it in a range of 12hrs).

No. I don't even know the dude, just weighing the issues with the avaliable evidence and a non sentimental mind.

U can post the link of this thread anywhere u please but it just simply amounts to someone joining a Lynch mob because someone shouted Ole!

NanaF:
Did you read that the car's airbag was replaced with something else. Do you know that is criminal?

Did the OP intend to drive a car whose gear case is being held together by SAND and glue? SAND! Freaking sand! Do you know how insane that is? And the door handles being held together by glue or what is that? Why did he not show it in the picture knowing the buyer solely relied on the picture when making his purchase.

None of you will behave any differently if this happened to you.

oseri:

....The driver comfirms the car is ok. so he drove the car to PH. i took delivery of the car around 8pm. Instantly, i noticed the brake was bad, and the power steering was bad too. On further inspection the next day, this are the problems with the car.

1. Power steering pump bad
2. Brake tubes from abs module, one caliper, brake fluid reservoir removed and pluged. Brake system destroyed
3. driver side mirror cannibalised. it doesn't work from the control. it was put in place with a super glue
4. The moon roof control work erratically
5. gearbox shifting very badly
6. rear axle vibrating. i'm suspecting bushings
7. no horn
8. driver airbag already deployed. replaced with a caton airbag case
9. diver's door interior handle broken. put in place with a super glue
10. the entire shocks bad

the list is endless.

NanaF:


Did you read that the car's airbag was replaced with something else. Do you know that is criminal?

Did the OP intend to drive a car whose gear case is being held together by SAND and glue? SAND! Freaking sand! Do you know how insane that is? And the door handles being held together by glue or what is that? Why did he not show it in the picture knowing the buyer solely relied on the picture when making his purchase.

None of you will behave any differently if this happened to you.

iboboyswag:


PICTORIAL PROOF!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

let him post all these thing atleast they are physical things and won't disappear when their pictures are taken.

what we have here still remains one mans word against another and a lot of us are carrying on like it is the fact.

NanaF:


He did.

He posted the picture of the gear case and the horrible looking door .

Oseri please post the remaining pictures showing further proof.

Amono:
Read this thread from top to bottom.

The buyer has every right to be angry, because he was sold a vehicle, with faults that he did not expect.

On the other hand chucky and the buyer agreed on an amount for the said vehicle and the vehicle (which is pictorially in bad state) was delivered to Mr oseri.

Reding thru, I have not seen where Mr oseri paid the balance for chuckys said vehicle.

I have seen the picture of a bad door handle.

Bad display screen

Bad gear leaver cover.

The door cover here in obosi costs 5k

The cover on the gear lever is 7k

The screen is less than 20k.

All the other problems have not been substantiated by a third party.


Chucky this is not the way to handle an angry customer, adding fuel to a fire only make it burn stronger.

People on this forum are angry because similar threads have come up and the seller was guilty as charged.

Let's give chucky a little benefit of doubt.

Oseri the way I see it you owe chucky money any way you look at it.

Chucky apologize to Mr oseri and set things straight.

Oseri if you do not want the car and want a refund of your money say so, chucky to redeem your image if he insists on a refund give him, i'm sure that will dispell all doubts on your integrity.