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Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 2:45pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
yazach: Who is a Christian ? A christian is not just 1 church goer, not just to announce to the world to be a christian. Not Let's see what the bible says about a true Christian.. those who obey the bible and put to practice the teaching of Christ. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. [size=16pt]Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.[/size] |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by mustymatic(m): 3:29pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
johnydon22:[b] Bro, Even if, for argument sake if we forego d idea of their strength n supos that a woman has two or more husbands, who will have d ultimate authority of d house?_as dis will creat harmful competition, who will b d legal father of the child she bears and hw wud fatherhood be convincingly b determined? Wat wud happen to d demography of d society after some generations of this arrangement? Would the men b able to remain chaste within their vows in such arrngemnt wit one wife or wud he b promiscuous? The answers to all these r obvious. Since a woman can only bcome pregnant approximately once in a year and by only one man at a time, while a man can naturally impregnate more than one woman on a continual basis, it follows that it is more logical and natural even for you atheist, thus impractical from any angle whatsoever. It is easy however to criticize others in their religious practices, and that is what made ppl to accuse Islam for instance n attack it for its permission of polygamy. However it is strange for an atheist even though he can take up his blood sister or mother to satisfy sexual urges since its not harmful because he desires her, as an atheist. Man can never make his own Laws as nearly close to perfect as God's. So just cause you don't like the laws does not mean you stop obeying them Peace [/b] |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 4:01pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
chuna1985: Yes but it is not rightful to God. For a thing to be right it has to be accepted by God. To prove this, we have to check the bible for enlightenment. First is, What is God’s attitude toward polygamy? He is the one who brought marriage into the world. God made the first man, Adam (Genesis 1:26). He saw that it was not good for Adam to be alone. He then made a “wife” for Adam. Notice God did not make “wives” for Adam. If He had wanted Adam to have more than one wife, He would have made him more than one. One was enough. God knows best. Polygamy is a “man-made” idea. It is not in agreement with God’s plan for marriage. Anything tht does not agree with what God has done or said is sin. God’s plan is one man and woman for life (Genesis 2). Polygamy in the Bible. The first person to be a polygamist was Lamech (Genesis 4:19-24). He lived six generations after Adam. He was a murderer. Nothing good is said about him. Abraham was also a polygamist (Genesis 16:1-5). His wife, Sarai, was unable to have children. She gave her slave, Hagar, to Abraham a son was born. Pride and jealousy came in between Sarah and Hagar. Sarah and Abraham's marriage was then full of troubles. Another polygamist was Esau. He married two Hittite women (Genesis 26:33-34). They caused much grief to Isaac and Rebekah. Polygamist marriages affect more than just the man and his wives. Gideon was a great and brave leader. He had 70 sons from many wives (Judges 8:30-31). What kind of a father could he be to 70 sons? Not the kind that God wants us to be. King Solomon had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. His wives turned his heart away from God (1 Kings 11:3). His downfall as a king was a result of his practice of polygamy. Nowhere in the Bible can we find polygamy doing any good. Everything that is said about it shows it causes troubles. That has not changed. Today polygamy still causes many marriage problems for those who practice it. Let us see some Bible principles that teach against the practice of polygamy. Genesis 2:23-24 says that a man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife. God did not say that man was to be joined to his “wives.” But he said to be joined to his "wife". Paul compares the husband and wife to Christ and the church: For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church... (Ephesians 5:23). In Ephesians 1:22-23 we are told that the church is the body of Christ. There is only one body (Ephesians 4:4) so there is only one church. Christ has only one church so a man can have only one wife. Nowhere does the Bible speak of a man (one) being over wives (many) and that being right with God. Matthew 19:3-9 speaks about divorce. Jesus Christ shows that God never wanted man or woman to divorce. The same is true with polygamy. Jesus said that a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and both shall become one flesh. This shows marriage is made up of one man and one woman. The two make one flesh. When a man has more than one wife he is no longer in accordance with this verse. Therefore, he is sinning. God hates sin. In 1 Timothy 3:2 we are told that an elder must be the husband of one wife. Why not two or more? And why should not a church leader be a polygamist? The reason is that God does not want that kind of a marriage. Those who practice polygamy are sinning in God’s eyes. They cannot be church leaders nor church members. Problems with polygamy in the Bible. It causes strife and jealousy. We see it in the lives of those who practice it today. Joseph was sold into Egyptian slavery by his brothers becos of jealousy from a polygamist marriage. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Nobody: 6:48pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
plappville: Show me in d bible where God said polygamy is a sin...please don't tell dis long stories. 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by yazach: 8:47pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
thorpido: No! you don't study it nor do you understand it. It is a pity that you sinful guy now condemning the anointed and chosen men of God Jesus never know the word "CHRISTIANITY" rather an INVENTION after his death. The question is: 1- what is the religion of those men of God(Solomon, Mose, Abrahm, David etc)? 2- Did you mean they are sinners by practicing polygamy? 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by yazach: 8:51pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
PRINCESSO2: My sister! If a man has two wives, did three of them become one family or two? |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by yazach: 8:53pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
thorpido: I know this is where you guys will result to Are you saying if a man marries 3 wives, the family is now more than one family 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 10:23pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
yazach:Jesus didn't use the word Christianity because He didn't have to.It was the people that called the early disciples Christians because they behaved like Christ.It was a description.When I say Christianity is not religion,many can't understand it. You call me a sinful guy,I'm sure you don't know what sin is.I'm not a sinful guy,I've been saved.I'm anointed too.The glory of the latter is greater than that of the former. The earlier prophets were jews and worshipped the God of their fathers. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 10:24pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
chuna1985: It is not accpted by God. Its like divorce issue. Therefore, it's a sin. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
plappville: Please quote scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Lanre747: 10:59pm On Oct 12, 2015 |
thorpido: Deuteronomy 21:15-17 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his. Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. David had 6 wives and many concubines, and yet, this was what God had to say about him: 1 Kings 15:4-5 4 Nevertheless for David's sake did the Lord his God give him a lamp in Jerusalem, to set up his son after him, and to establish Jerusalem: 5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. The oyinbo man may have come with the bible, but he taught you his traditions. Till this day, many of you won't pick up the bible and read for yourself. 3 Likes |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by johnydon22(m): 12:10am On Oct 13, 2015 |
thorpido: Apparently you think since others don't believe your own version of one true God they are atheists right..? Ok that's nice, Muslims also think theirs is the one true God so could it be concluded that it is right for a muslim to regard as you as an atheist? A hindu obviously thinks they have the one true God and yours is fake so i take it that you are an atheist ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by trapQ: 8:24am On Oct 13, 2015 |
OP, they are correcting you but you don't want to listen. It is clearly stated in the bible. If you don't know something, ask questions. Don't go about accusing people of saying when you're the one that is wrong. Adam, the father of creation, how many wives did God make for him? Or are there 2 Eves in your bible. The best of men in the bible weren't married even. I'd drop the verses for you that states that a man should marry only one wife. The bible even says that a man that cheats on his wife lacketh understanding and destroyeth his own soul. yazach: |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 10:28am On Oct 13, 2015 |
Lanre747:You guys just don't get it.I'll use an illustration to explain this. A bottle of coca-cola is sometimes used to sell kerosine.The fact that the coke bottle is used for kerosine,does it mean that that was its purpose? When God created the human being,He made one man(Adam) and gave him one woman(Eve)to be his wife.He could have given him options of two or three women at that time but He gave him one setting for him an example.When man(Adam) sinned,he lost the glory of God and started functioning in sin and the lust of the flesh.He started taking women.God knew man had fallen into sin and even though it was not His perfect plan for man,God allowed it.That was why the prophets of old had many wives and God still related with them. Now jesus has come and restored the glory of man through His redemptive work.Man now has been restored to the original 'default setting'of one man-one wife.Christians are to have one wife. The prophets of old were not Christians ! I hope you guys can get it now.Stop talking about Abraham,Moses,David etc in your ignorance.Jesus' coming brought a new order. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 11:41am On Oct 13, 2015 |
johnydon22:Identify yourself as an atheist if you are one or not.Stop beating about the bush. There's only One God and He's not the God of many religions so obviously some people are in error. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by johnydon22(m): 11:52am On Oct 13, 2015 |
thorpido: That is still the point here. . You thinks yours is the right one and others are wrong so you tag others atheists. Others also think you are wrong and theirs is the right one so they should dub you an atheist then.. So you are an atheist? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 12:05pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
johnydon22:Guy,identify your self.Stop beating about the bush. Forget about what others think,just declare who you are by your belief. Are you ashamed of something? |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by johnydon22(m): 12:10pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
thorpido: Lmao you don't even know the person you were discussing with now i think you think i am the guy you were discussing with.. I believe i am well known here on my stance on personal Gods. . So my question stems from you dubbing others who don't share your own concept of a God as atheist... Stop going round and attend to my question.. Since according to you, you have the right God and a hindu is wrong therefore to you a hindu is an atheist. According to a hindu he has the right God and yours is wrong, are you also an atheist from the perspective of a Hindu?.. Evidently enough you have no idea what theism and atheism means... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 12:31pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
johnydon22:Are you an atheist or not?Shikena! I'm tired of your sort of rigmarole. Ok bye. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by johnydon22(m): 12:41pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
thorpido: Proud one as a matter of fact. . I do not only disbelieve the idea of personal GODS i find the Abrahamic religion concept a very childish one.. So now a Hindu thinks they have the right God and yours is wrong, Is it right for a Hindu to term you atheist? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 1:16pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
johnydon22:Okay,you're an atheist.That settles it. An atheist is someone who does not believe in God.People who practice religion believe in the existence of God.That should answer your question. By the way,I don't practice any Abrahamic religion. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Lanre747: 10:42pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
thorpido: NEW TESTAMENT SAYS: Luke 16:29-31 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Which new order? The prophets did not speak of a new order, so who authorised it? LOL@Abraham was not a Christian. Dumb comment. Hear this also: Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. If you have interpreted any writing to contradict or do away with the law and prophets, then you better ignore it, according to scripture 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 7:52am On Oct 14, 2015 |
Lanre747:Talking about being dumb,was Nigeria a country before 1960?Christianity started with Jesus Christ who came many years after Abraham.How could Abraham then be a Christian? I thought I was conversing with someone who could reason,I didn't know stupidity was part of you. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:24am On Oct 14, 2015 |
thorpido: [size=16pt]NICE ONE BRO.... [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:26am On Oct 14, 2015 |
Lanre747: mathew 19:8 Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:38am On Oct 14, 2015 |
chuna1985: Polygamy is a “man-made” idea. It is not in agreement with God’s plan for marriage. Anything tht does not agree with what God has done or said is sin. God’s plan is one man and woman for life (Genesis 2). Mathew 19:5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? Note: not his wifes. Disobedient to this is a sin. 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." Note again: Two become one flesh not three or four. When a man marry a women it is GOD that join them. When he marries two he joins himself. This is not from GOD. HE BREAKS THE MARRIAGE COMMAND. Its a "SIN" |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Nobody: 8:39am On Oct 14, 2015 |
plappville: I'm yet to see where God told man to marry one wife. I'm waiting. |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Lanre747: 9:46am On Oct 14, 2015 |
thorpido: No, stupid. The fact that Abraham was not a Christian (neither was Jesus for that matter) should tell you that there is something wrong. Christianity started with Jesus? Lol. Man made stuff |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by thorpido(m): 9:51am On Oct 14, 2015 |
Lanre747:it's obvious you are not intelligent. Ok bye 1 Like |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Rilwayne001: 4:25pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Lanre747: Nice one my nigga |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by yazach: 5:50pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Lanre747: Christianity started with PAUL, jesus never heard the word Christianity. Man (paul) made stuff indeed 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by Lanre747: 8:21am On Oct 15, 2015 |
plappville: It is written in the Law. So you are saying Moses added to the word, lol. But Jesus said He is the word. Go read Deuteronomy 24 |
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